[SpongeG]

Even if I could afford one of those townhouses, why would I want to live in a place where everyone in the district hates you because of where you live. Even though the new owners of the townhouses had nothing to do with the clearcutting & building of the homes by the developer, they will be ostracized by the community.

I read somewhere that Shaugnessey is the only district in the city where multi-family dwellings (apartments or condos) were -until now- expressly forbidden under the zoning codes of the district. When Shaugnessey was developed by the CPR, it was meant to be the prestige area of the city to get the wealthy families to move out of their West End mansions into new Shaugnessey mansions. Its amazing to realise that until the 50s the West End was covered in mansions like the Rogers Mansion (aka Romanos Macaroni Grill) on Davie.

some of the other mansions are divided into multiple units aka townhouses and some of the propertys have multiple residences on them but this was about the amount of them

[SpongeG]

Mt. Pleasant residents fight high-rise social housing

http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20100622/470_bc_east_broadway_100622.jpg
The East Broadway area where a multi-storey social housing development is planned is shown in this undated photo. (Mount Pleasant Neighbours)

By: Bethany Lindsay, ctvbc.ca
Date: Tuesday Jun. 22, 2010 5:24 PM PT

Residents of Vancouver's Mount Pleasant area are fighting the city's plans to build a multi-storey building providing housing and services for at-risk youth and adults in their neighbourhood.

Vancouver City council is expected to vote on rezoning at 675-691 East Broadway to make way for a new development after a public hearing tonight.

The proposed tower would be home to 103 single-residency social housing units -- including 30 for troubled youth -- and an expanded Broadway Youth Resource Centre.

The plan from the Vancouver Native Housing Society calls for an 11-storey building, which would also contain 24 market rental apartments and retail space on the ground floor.

The Mount Pleasant Neighbours group has fought against the proposed plan, arguing that there are several problems with the proposed tower, beginning with its height.

"It's right at the top of a hill, so that just emphasizes the height," Megan Reiter, a local resident, told ctvbc.ca.

"It's just not consistent with the neighbourhood."

She said that neighbours are also concerned about the growing concentration of poverty in East Vancouver, as well as the number of social housing units in the building.

"We think that having over 100 people with addiction histories and mental health issues is really just asking for trouble," Reiter said.

"We would really like to see a mix of income levels."

An online petition from the group has gathered 430 signatures. It ask the city to reduce the size of the building and the number of social housing sites it will contain.

At tonight's meeting, city staff will recommend reducing the height of the project to eight stories, but Reiter said that isn't a solution to local residents' concerns.

"They want to do that by eliminating the market rental housing component, and to us that doesn't really fix the problem. They're reducing the height, but at the expense of the income mix."

But those behind the proposed project say that they'll argue to keep the building at 11 storeys.

"We don't feel that it is too tall. We think that, particularly in this day and age, you have to take advantage of what's available to you," said David Eddy, executive director of the Vancouver Native Housing Society.

...

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100622/bc_mount_pleasant_100622/20100622?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

[SpongeG]

can't residents figure out its the first of many towers for the area?

as more go up it won't be sticking out on its own which seems to be their complaint about the height...

[nova9]

it's also funny to complain about drug addicts and people looking for help from health services there when that area is already full of them. do the people that complain actually live in that area? it's pretty trashy, they could do worse than have a shiny new building there.

and it is consistent because not a few blocks down is main st. puhlease.

[zivan56]

I lived 2 blocks away from the place in the picture until 97 or so. Our building manager had to chase away crack whores who were sitting/hassling residents near the entrance and tackle crackheads that would break in. I don't know how it is now, but it appears to be way better...I can imagine people thinking this will bring those types back. So its not the tower, but the people it brings.

[SpongeG]

its not much better you still see those types in the area

the youth centre already exists in that building in the picture they will just be getting a new home in the development

[SpongeG]

my friend was telling me the marpole safeway is being redeveloped - anyone have info?

he says it will be two towers with a new safeway store underneath and some other retail in it

[jlousa]

It's been on the back burner for a few years now, it will eventually become a "social" Safeway with an neighbourhood appropriate level of residential units, the architect has put alot of work into the current proposal. Don't know when it'll see the light of day though.

[SpongeG]

he said he saw signs on the site and its going up

[jlousa]

Well it's public now so might as well post the details, the project really looks good and can't wait till the renders are made available.

Community Area: Marpole
Status: Proposed
Location: 8495 GRANVILLE ST
Zoning: CD-1
Project Type: Rezoning
Applicant Contact: Gregory Henriquez Henriquez Partners Architects

Description:

Henriquez Partners Architects has applied, on the behalf of Westbank Projects, to rezone the site from C-2 (Commercial) to CD-1 (Comprehensive Development) District. The purpose of the rezoning is to redevelop the site with four major building elements which includes replacement of the Safeway grocery store on Granville Street, a 24-storey rental tower, a 14 storey market condominium tower, and a 9-storey slab building consisting of townhouses at street level and condominium units above. The proposed maximum height would be 72 m (236 ft.). The total floor area proposed would be 37,647.8 square metres (405,250 sq. ft.) with a maximum density increased from 2.5 FSR (floor space ratio) to 3.14 FSR.

The proposed increase in density is to secure the provision of the rental housing. The rezoning application is being considered under the Short Term Incentives for Rental (STIR) Program approved by City Council on June 18, 2009. This program responds to low vacancy rates and the lack of new purpose-built rental housing by providing a strategic set of City incentives to encourage and facilitate the development of new market rental housing.

[sacrifice333]

Well it's public now so might as well post the details, the project really looks good and can't wait till the renders are made available.

That might hurt the egos of potential buyers having the rental building nearly twice the number of floors than the taller condo building.

[jlousa]

Here's the data, enjoy and criticize.:tup:

Context Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/context.pdf

Site Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/siteplan.pdf

Building Program
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/bldgprgm.pdf

Building Elevations
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/elevations.pdf

Building Form
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/bldgform.pdf

Shadow Analysis
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/shadow.pdf

Heritage
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/heritage.pdf

Landscape Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/landscape.pdf

[hollywoodnorth]

Here's the data, enjoy and criticize.:tup:

Context Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/context.pdf

Site Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/siteplan.pdf

Building Program
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/bldgprgm.pdf

Building Elevations
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/elevations.pdf

Building Form
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/bldgform.pdf

Shadow Analysis
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/shadow.pdf

Heritage
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/heritage.pdf

Landscape Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/8495granville/documents/landscape.pdf

WOW! WOW! this is the future of Vancouver .... re working old sites and bringing them to life. Very good stuff from Westbank :cheers:

thanks for the links Jlo

[red-paladin]

Hopefully something similar is done with the Safeway at Commercial-Broadway Station.

[SpongeG]

^^^ there are renderings for it - no towers involved - just the store over parking and the current store is turned into a retail "village"

[jsbertram]

WOW! WOW! this is the future of Vancouver .... re working old sites and bringing them to life. Very good stuff from Westbank :cheers:

thanks for the links Jlo

We'll just have to get used to the 'good old' Safeway stores from the 60s are reaching the end of their lives, and with the land values increasing it only make sense that these full-block sites will get redeveloped.

They make such a deal about re-purposing the gullwing arches, but the drawings show that only the ends of three arches are being saved & getting flipped over to act like awning supports.
Big F'n Deal!

I would have liked the architect to show more thought in how these unique and iconic gullwing arches could have been incorporated into the new construction and a better use of all nine arches in the current buildings, not just the sawed-off ends of three of them.

[SpongeG]

does safeway own this location? they seem to own most of their locations - their real estate holdings must be quite a lot in vancouver

[LeftCoaster]

Interesting, westbank is moving forward with this one, they must have more faith in the market than I.

This is the first time I have seen the plans for this one, I like most of it, especially the low rise and midrise components. I'm not totally sold on the rental tower though, with the right materials it could look ok, but I'm concerned that given its purpose as a rental it might not turn out that great.

Also surprised the tallest tower is the rental. Would make more sense to me to put the condos in the tallest, even if they had to sit above rental units to achieve the right usage mix.

Its really too bad wentbank couldn't get a hold of the royal bank site and incorporate it into the development. That corner looks so out of place now.

[jsbertram]

That might hurt the egos of potential buyers having the rental building nearly twice the number of floors than the taller condo building.

Its smart to put the renters on the Granville & 70th corner, so they can absorb all the traffic noise. I'd rather have a condo on the west side of the site overlooking the other residential areas and be that much closer to the Arbutus Corridor streetcar station.

[officedweller]

Another opportunistic rezoning (using a previously consolidated site so as not to upset the neighbours).

The only saving grace of this site (as opposed to King Edward Village, also on a former Safeway site) is that it is close to the future streetcar line on the Arbutus corridor, otherwise I would have said that this type of project should be closer to the Canada Line or other rapid transit.

Looks good though in terms of built form - but what's with the rip-off of The Rolston?

[AlexYVR]

Awesome. Thanks, Jlousa. Great find. Another Henriquez project for the city to be proud of, although I wouldn't mind if Henriquez started mixing up the formula a little bit. I guess if it isn't broke. . .:tup:

[SFUVancouver]

Robert H N Ho lab.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9814/roberthnnolabjune302010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

Spruce
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/129/sprucejune302010p120067.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

Alder Tower (in lieu of the real name)
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9915/aldertowerjune302010p12.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

700 West 8th crane going up
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2224/700west8thcranejune3020.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

700 West 8th pit
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/8660/700west8thpitjune302010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

700 West 8th - I have never seen a tower crane tucked this far into the corner of a site.
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5518/700west8thcraneincorner.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

700 West 8th
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9017/700west8thcornerjune302.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

District (looking south)
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/442/districtsouthjune302010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

District (looking north)
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/6/districtnorthjune302010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

Social (looking south)
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5585/socialsouthjune302010p1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

Social (looking north)
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2569/socialnorthjune302010p1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

Rize Alliance's C2 midrise.
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/627/rizebroadwayc2june30201.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, June 30th, 2010.

[giallo]

Nice. Loving all this infill around Broadway.

[whatnext]

Here's a view from the ground of the old Chrysler warehouse being incorporated into the new Canadian Tire. Facadism at its worst! Why couldn't a warehouse be converted into a big box store?

http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy177/Whatnext2010/Vancouver/cdntire.jpg

[SpongeG]

its going to be multi storeys

[jlousa]

No surprise here, after last years approval of 2080 W Broadway we knew that the IGA site wouldn't be too far behind. Here's the proposal

Location: 2030 W BROADWAY/2001 W 10th Avenue
Zoning: CD-1
Project Type: Rezoning
Department: Planning Department
Application Date: 2010/06/30 No: 2010020
Applicant Contact: Bingham Hill Architects

Description: The application proposes a change in zoning from M-1 (Industrial) to CD-1. Proposed uses are Residential (125 Dwelling units in 117,165 sq. ft.) and 4,532 sq. ft Daycare Facility with outdoor play area, serving 37 children. The total proposed density is 2.5 FSR (Floor Area @ 117,090.8 sf / Site Area @ 46,866 sf = 2.50); Two buildigns are proposed: a 7-storey building with a maximum height of 74.5 feet, and a 6-storey building at approximately 63.5 feet high. A total of 183 parking spaces are proposed, including 162 residential spaces, 13 visitor spaces, 1 car share space (at grade), and 7 daycare spaces (at grade).

[whatnext]

Demolition has started on the old Coastal Ford site at Main and 18th.

[sacrifice333]

Alder tower pic.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4793799283_501fceb9db_b.jpg

My Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/friesen).

Anyone know anything more on this mystery tower?

[cc85]

i like it; it's simple.

[SFUVancouver]

Robert H.N. Ho lab.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3089/roberthnhoresearchlabju.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

Spruce
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/309/sprucejuly142010p120081.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

Alder mystery tower
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9661/aldermysterytowerjuly14.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

700 West 8th (now called "Icon Pacific")
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1161/700west8thjuly142010p12.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

District
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2781/districtsouthjuly142010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/227/districtnorthjuly142010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

Social
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/663/socialsouthjuly142010p1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6920/socialswjuly142010p1200.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/9155/socialnorthjuly142010p1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

Rize C-2 midrise on Broadway
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2913/rizec2july142010p120084.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 14th, 2010.

[officedweller]

From the Courier:

Two towers proposed for historic 10-acre site
Shannon Estates at 57th and Granville

By Cheryl Rossi, Vancouver Courier
July 23, 2010

A leafy, historic 10-acre site on the corner of Granville Street and West 57th Avenue is slated for development with two towers proposed at 13 and 14 storeys.

Bruno Wall, president of Wall Financial Corporation, says the development and real estate firm hopes to submit a rezoning application for Shannon Estates to the city, within two weeks, with the help of architectural firm Busy Perkins and Will, within two weeks.

Building heights were a key concern raised at a meeting between Wall, the architect, a city planner, residents of Shannon Estates and representatives of the Arbutus Ridge/Kerrisdale/Shaughnessy Community Vision Committee July 21.

"That's one of the balancing acts between height and density and site coverage," Wall said. "Clearly the more open space you can have, the more height you need to achieve that."

The 14-storey residential building is proposed for the corner of Granville and 57th, and the 13-storey building for the middle of the large site. The development would include other buildings tiered from four to nine storeys. The property's grand brick Beaux Arts mansion with its stone columns, lofty porticos and ceilings and interior woodwork will be preserved along with the old coach house, the gatehouse and the property's heritage-listed perimeter wall.

The mature trees that screen the site will stay, and a parkade will be constructed around the city's heritage list-protected Copper Beech trees.

"Back in the '70s when Peter [Wall] developed the site, he actually moved 50 or a hundred trees in order to preserve them," Wall said. "And now we're going to do it again."

Wall's uncle Peter Wall had Arthur Erickson and Geoffrey Massey's architectural firm design the two-storey apartment buildings and low-rise townhouses that surround the mansion, the grounds, and a year-round outdoor pool and hot tub, in the 1970s. The residential development caused much anxiety in the area when they were built.

The old apartments and townhouses would be replaced with 800 residential units, including at least 200 units of market rental, an increase from the present 162 rental units. Whether they'll be modest or high-end rentals has yet to be determined, Wall said. Wall Financial isn't planning to apply to the city's program that provides relaxations to developers in return for constructing market rental.

Karl Brodhecker, who's rented at Shannon Estates, or Shannon Mews, as it's known, for seven years, expects he won't find such a spacious apartment, green space and pet-friendly environment when redevelopment forces a move. He joined the city's ARKS committee last year to try to ensure the development suits the site with its circa early 1900s Italianate-style lawns and terraces, fits the neighbourhood, respects the heritage features and the residents who will have to move.

"They've done a fine job of integrating the garden aspect of the property with the footprint of the buildings," Brodhecker said. "My personal opinion is that the heights are excessive for the neighbourhood and that's going to create a very high density nexus in the neighbourhood right here on a busy intersection, as it is."

Wall said the city has advised closing the traffic access points on Granville and Adera Street to the west, and having traffic enter and exit only off 57th.

crossi@vancourier.com

© Copyright (c) Vancouver Courier

[SpongeG]

wow that will be weird but interesting

[flight_from_kamakura]

^ that's how it starts! great to hear.

[jlousa]

Before anyone gets too excited about the following proposal. I would venture to guess there is a very good chance that it will need to be revised after public consultation. This is the site at Broadway and Kingsway that suffered from the fire. Given Mount Pleasants concerns about 11 stories just last week I reckon 26 will be a hard sell but I do expect we will see a tower on this site.

Project: Mixed Use Development with Rental
Community Area: Mount Pleasant
Status: Proposed
Location: 228 E BROADWAY 228 & 236 & 246 East Broadway and 180 Kingsway
Zoning: CD-1
Project Type: Rezoning
Department: Planning Department
Application Date: 2010/07/26 No: 2010025
Applicant Contact: Acton Ostry Architects Inc.

Description:
To rezone from C-3A (Commercial) to CD-1 (Comprehensive Development) to permit a 26-storey development comprising of 7,723 square metres of commercial/retail use, 856 square metres of proposed Artist Production Space (as a community benefit), 4,649 square metres of rental residential (62 dwelling units) and 20, 782 square metres of market residential use (206 dwelling units) at a proposed floor space ratio (FSR) of 6.37.

[SFUVancouver]

Robert H N Ho lab
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4277/roberthnholabjuly282010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

Spruce
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8986/sprucejuly282010p120095.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

Alder Mystery Tower
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/2914/aldermysterytowerjuly28.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

700 West 8th
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3663/700west8thjuly282010p12.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

Cambie Street low-rise wooden bldg renovation render
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1710/cambiewoodbldgrenojuly2.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

District (looking south)
http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/9938/districtlookingsouthjul.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

District (looking north)
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8568/districtlookingnorthjul.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

Social (looking southwest)
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8381/socialjuly282010p120098.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

Social (looking north)
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6558/sociallookingnorthjuly2.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

Rize Alliance's C2 midrise.
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5581/rizec2midrisejuly282010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

[phesto]

Before anyone gets too excited about the following proposal. I would venture to guess there is a very good chance that it will need to be revised after public consultation. This is the site at Broadway and Kingsway that suffered from the fire. Given Mount Pleasants concerns about 11 stories just last week I reckon 26 will be a hard sell but I do expect we will see a tower on this site.

Rize Alliance and Acton Ostry Architects - good combination to see an interesting looking building, regardless of height.

[martinishaker]

Nice updates.
District seems like a very large foot print.
Social is a very stupid name given all the Social housing being built right now.
Imagine having to explain to people you live at Social not in Social housing

[jsbertram]

Before anyone gets too excited about the following proposal. I would venture to guess there is a very good chance that it will need to be revised after public consultation. This is the site at Broadway and Kingsway that suffered from the fire. Given Mount Pleasants concerns about 11 stories just last week I reckon 26 will be a hard sell but I do expect we will see a tower on this site.

And hopefully they've had the foresight for a connection to the future UBC Line subway station that will be at Main / Broadway / Kingsway.

Every time is walk past the door to The Hudson, I'm reminded of how short-sighted other builders can be.

[jsbertram]

Robert H N Ho lab
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4277/roberthnholabjuly282010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 28th, 2010.

...


triple post?
in one day?

IE gagged trying to get all the pics downloaded from imageshack
(or maybe imageshack was choking from the simultaneous downloads)

[SFUVancouver]

triple post?
in one day?

IE gagged trying to get all the pics downloaded from imageshack
(or maybe imageshack was choking from the simultaneous downloads)

I am not sure what you mean by a triple post in one day. The three photo updates of Central broadway are from a period of 6 weeks.

[jsbertram]

I am not sure what you mean by a triple post in one day. The three photo updates of Central broadway are from a period of 6 weeks.

Serves me right for SSP-ing before my first coffee of the day. Mea Culpa

I only looked at pics of the Ho Lab building in messages 2122, 2130, and 2135 & didn't notice much difference. Now that I see them side-by-side I see the differences.

I was too quick to blame IE for being slow that I didn't notice the date/time stamps of these messages.

Yet another reason I should do my SSP-ing during my breaks at work.

[SFUVancouver]

^ That explains it. I was concerned that somehow I had made a triple post that everyone else could see whilst it appeared to me as only a single post.

We could also contact the builders for the Robert H.N. Ho lab and ask them to hurry up since they are causing confusion on the internet.

[SpongeG]

Giant panda symbolizes luck and good fortune for Chinatown

http://www.vancouversun.com/3357482.bin?size=620x400
Coun. Raymond Louie (left) and Chinatown business improvement association president Albert Fok unveil street banners bearing Muse, the temporary name for the neighbourhood's new mascot.
Photograph by: Ian Smith, Vancouver Sun, Vancouver Sun


Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/Giant+panda+symbolizes+luck+good+fortune+Chinatown/3357481/story.html#ixzz0vfvlKJDH

[SpongeG]

Gastown finds new life with new buildings

Revitalization project is recognized for its architecture and sustainability

Renee Bernard Aug 03, 2010 19:46:14 PM

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Revitalizing Gastown has been a balancing act, but the effort has paid off with some national recognition.

The architect involved in the neighbourhood's restoration says not only has the past been respected, but modern-day needs taken care of. Mark Ostry of Acton Ostry Architects is behind such Gastown projects as the Garage, the Taylor Building and the Alhambra.

He says the blueprints have come alive without having to displace the people who've long called it home. "They take something from the area, and reflect it back and revitalize it with housing, and commercial spaces, and offices," he notes.

...

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/85060--gastown-finds-new-life-with-new-buildings

[SpikePhanta]

My Father had a restaurant in Gastown.
I love the neighbourhood, great that its so ever changing.

[Trocadero]

I hope all potential Uptown buyers stop by the site on a Friday or Saturday night to get a feel for the area. with that dead end street infront of the Biltmore theres always a big and loud crowd outside the bar on the weekend. Wonder how long that will last once the condo goes up...

I wonder if they could re-jig the entrance to the biltmore so it opens onto Kingsway. The main problem with neighbours would be pre/post crowds hanging around on Prince Edward. A Kingsway entrance might work.

[entheosfog]

It's been up for a couple weeks now, but there's a development permit up for the 600 block of Terminal, in between Begg and Thornton across from Coastal Ford for another auto dealership. My guess is Mercedes as they had a temp used car lot set up there in February. I just hope they keep that tall stand of trees on the north side of that block as those are just about the only mature trees on the entire stretch of Terminal.

[hollywoodnorth]

a crane is now up at District! 1st of 2 I assume....

[hollywoodnorth]

It's been up for a couple weeks now, but there's a development permit up for the 600 block of Terminal, in between Begg and Thornton across from Coastal Ford for another auto dealership. My guess is Mercedes as they had a temp used car lot set up there in February. I just hope they keep that tall stand of trees on the north side of that block as those are just about the only mature trees on the entire stretch of Terminal.

I'm thinking that's the CONTAINERS site by Rize and they are wanting to move ahead on it.......Jlo said it was closer to starting than had been though......

[SpikePhanta]

I'm thinking that's the CONTAINERS site by Rize and they are wanting to move ahead on it.......Jlo said it was closer to starting than had been though......

Containers is across from Radical, between scotia and thornton. 400 terminal

[yogiderek]

Noticed today that the hoarding is now completely erected around the Alexandria site. So hopefully they'll be tearing down Maxines and the others buildings on the site soon. Also that an excavator has been moved to the old shell station site at Pendrell and Denman. Also, that heavy fencing has been placed around St John's church on Comox and Broughton. So will they begin the demolition of the church. There is a partial fence now around the group of stores at Denman and Comox which was zoned for a 6 storey mixed use developement. Here is hoping that some development will finally happen in the west end.

[SpikePhanta]

^^^

For Comox and Denman, Where would it go?
711, the knight and day or where the legendary noodles is?

[jsbertram]

^^^

For Comox and Denman, Where would it go?
711, the knight and day or where the legendary noodles is?

"it" is referring to what, exactly?

I don't think the Comox and Denman intersection is going anywhere ....

[NewfBC]

"it" is referring to what, exactly?

I don't think the Comox and Denman intersection is going anywhere ....

I think he meant Comox / Nelson where Starbucks used to be.. now a Book Warehouse. Book Warehouse is having a Closing / Building Redevelopment sale.. so it looks like something is happening with this site.

Ron.

[jsbertram]

I think he meant Comox / Nelson where Starbucks used to be.. now a Book Warehouse. Book Warehouse is having a Closing / Building Redevelopment sale.. so it looks like something is happening with this site.

Ron.

So instead of using 'it', perhaps he should have said:

At Comox and Denman, where would this new development go?
The 7/11?
the knight and day?
or where the legendary noodles is?

no mis-interpreting that 'it' would be going somewhere else (leaving Comox and Denman) when reading the question.

[SpikePhanta]

So instead of using 'it', perhaps he should have said:

At Comox and Denman, where would this new development go?
The 7/11?
the knight and day?
or where the legendary noodles is?

no mis-interpreting that 'it' would be going somewhere else (leaving Comox and Denman) when reading the question.

I would of said

"For the Comox & Denman development, where would it go?
Sorry for the misunderstanding, english isn't my first or second language, and schools do a horrible job at teaching english. I type as if i'm talking to one directly in real life.

[SpongeG]

it made perfect sense to me some people just have to be ...

[yogiderek]

I would of said

"For the Comox & Denman development, where would it go?
Sorry for the misunderstanding, english isn't my first or second language, and schools do a horrible job at teaching english. I type as if i'm talking to one directly in real life.

Yup that is what I meant. though to be honest I would love to see the 711 block go, with the two buildings behind it too. Now that would be dream come true.

[phesto]

it made perfect sense to me some people just have to be ...

Says the guy who refuses to use the SHIFT or punctuation keys :D

[hollywoodnorth]

Containers is across from Radical, between scotia and thornton. 400 terminal

http://www.rize.ca/developments/work/containers/

ah yes. hmmmm I don't see the 600 lot coming up on the city site for Dev Apps?

[officedweller]

It's been up for a couple weeks now, but there's a development permit up for the 600 block of Terminal, in between Begg and Thornton across from Coastal Ford for another auto dealership. My guess is Mercedes as they had a temp used car lot set up there in February. I just hope they keep that tall stand of trees on the north side of that block as those are just about the only mature trees on the entire stretch of Terminal.

Also sounds like it's pretty close to the train station compared to the old proposed Red Truck Brewery site:

http://www.amarchitects.com/redtruckbrewery.html

1550 Carolina St.:

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/udp/2008/minutes/jun4.html#3

[entheosfog]

I'm thinking that's the CONTAINERS site by Rize and they are wanting to move ahead on it.......Jlo said it was closer to starting than had been though......

It says 'for the construction of an auto dealership and repair facility' right on the sign, so I'd go with that. The sign is up on the north side of the block, south side of Terminal, but it's stuck between a couple trees so it's easily missed.

[hollywoodnorth]

It says 'for the construction of an auto dealership and repair facility' right on the sign, so I'd go with that. The sign is up on the north side of the block, south side of Terminal, but it's stuck between a couple trees so it's easily missed.

yup I checked out the sign yesterday also.

so looks like there are proposals on all the lots there now along terminal.

[yogiderek]

Yup that is what I meant. though to be honest I would love to see the 711 block go, with the two buildings behind it too. Now that would be dream come true.

A boring one storey development, blaaahhh Some lame picture is on the fencing. What another waste of opportunity on denman. It could of been at least four stories with one retail and three residential.

[worldwide]

A boring one storey development, blaaahhh Some lame picture is on the fencing. What another waste of opportunity on denman. It could of been at least four stories with one retail and three residential.

this might be better actually. they may be using the boring one story building as a place holder so that in ~10 years they can build a tower

[eduardo88]

A boring one storey development, blaaahhh Some lame picture is on the fencing. What another waste of opportunity on denman. It could of been at least four stories with one retail and three residential.

Things like that piss me off so much. But hopefully worldwide said, this could act as a placeholder for a better development in a few years.

[SFUVancouver]

Robert HN Ho lab at VGH
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1894/roberthnnolabaug112010p.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

Spruce
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4448/spruceaug112010p1210021.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

Alder Mystery Tower
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3545/aldermysterytoweraug112.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

700 West 8th
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5783/700west8thaug112010p121.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

The first crane is up at District
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3340/districtaugust112010p12.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

District, looking north
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2691/districtno2august112010.jpg
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Social
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7601/socialshadowsaugust1120.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

Social without shadows
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7376/socialno2august112010p1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

Social's actually L-shaped, with a small courtyard in the centre.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6681/socialno3august112010p1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

Rize Alliance's C-2 mid-rise on Broadway at Quebec.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6158/rizemidriseaugust112010.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

The VPD Force Options training centre is not part of Central Broadway but I did take a couple of photos today.
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7583/vpdforceoptionsphase2au.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3566/forceoptionssunsetaugus.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, August 11th, 2010.

[whatnext]

I notice Bastion now has some very preliminary info on 3333 Main St up on their website, now that site excavation has begun. I'm surprised they're going ahead without pre-sales.
http://www.bastiondevelopment.com/developments/detail/3333_main

[red-paladin]

There is still no way to leave VCC-Clark station and go over the railway tracks to the north right? It's really too bad there is no walkway so people could get to the workplaces on the flats there.

[SpongeG]

u mean to get to the home depot etc?

no - it would be a good idea though

[wrenegade]

I notice Bastion now has some very preliminary info on 3333 Main St up on their website, now that site excavation has begun. I'm surprised they're going ahead without pre-sales.
http://www.bastiondevelopment.com/developments/detail/3333_main

My guess is their sales will start pretty soon. Rize's OnQue project (Broadway/Quebec) is supposed to start sales pretty soon too.

[red_lantern]

Groundbreaker: 3333 Main St. Demolition Almost Complete, Making Way for Bastion’s New Development
by admin on August 6th, 2010


Bastion Development‘s major Main St. project, 3333 Main (also it’s address), is seeing progress as demolition is almost complete on the building site bordered by 17th and 18th Avenues. This is going to be a big project, bringing the neighbourhood 98 residential units, ground level retail and a new city-owned park space. The building will be five storeys high, with some interesting features that will definitely change the look of the existing block on Main St. (which sits at an S curve along the road that bisects the neighbourhood at present). We have pictures of the demolition, renderings of the planned development and discussion of the park space, after the jump…

The building site was previously a large Ford dealership, which sold in 2007 (according to this website, for $14,850,000). The block between 17th and 18th Avenues is longer than most, as it sits on a shift in the city’s grid which provides extra space for development. The demolition is nearly complete, and excavation for the foundations has already begun. As we noted in a previous Groundbreaker, the nearby Mix development will have to deal with construction noise for some time. Take a look at the site and the surrounding block below:













The development has an interesting design, with two main structures separated by a pedestrian laneway at the ground floor. There will also be seven townhouses in the back laneway near 17th avenue. Take a look at a few renderings below:







The development received its rezoning approval earlier this year from city council, after a planning process which lasted for close to two years. One item that was discussed in detail was a slip-lane that separates the lot from a triangle of grass formed by the curve in Main St. just north of 18th Avenue. Bastion and the project architects, Hotson Bakker Bonniface Haden, had initially planned to turn the triangle into a park area, but keep the slip-lane open to cars (although “traffic calmed”). However, community members voiced their preference for the slip lane to be removed and integrated into the park space. The city’s staff and developers came around to this plan, and rezoning for the site was approved on the condition that the slip-lane be removed (and a community amenity contribution be made by Bastion for the development of the park by the city). Check out the site plan sketches with and without the slip lane:





We’ll keep monitoring progress (and sales success) for this major new development on Main.

3333 Main – developer’s website.
Rezoning application hub for 3333 Main St. – City of Vancouver.

[hollywoodnorth]

My guess is their sales will start pretty soon. Rize's OnQue project (Broadway/Quebec) is supposed to start sales pretty soon too.

http://www.liveonque.com/ and http://life.nationalpost.com/2010/08/06/vancouver-condo-lets-you-choose-your-own-wall-placement/

kinda short ....... but good infill I guess.

at least we know the name so its no longer the "Rize Alliance's C-2 mid-rise on Broadway at Quebec" in the SFUVancouver updates ;)

[hollywoodnorth]

Groundbreaker: 3333 Main St. Demolition Almost Complete, Making Way for Bastion’s New Development
by admin on August 6th, 2010


Bastion Development‘s major Main St. project, 3333 Main (also it’s address), is seeing progress as demolition is almost complete on the building site bordered by 17th and 18th Avenues. This is going to be a big project, bringing the neighbourhood 98 residential units, ground level retail and a new city-owned park space. The building will be five storeys high, with some interesting features that will definitely change the look of the existing block on Main St. (which sits at an S curve along the road that bisects the neighbourhood at present). We have pictures of the demolition, renderings of the planned development and discussion of the park space, after the jump…

The building site was previously a large Ford dealership, which sold in 2007 (according to this website, for $14,850,000). The block between 17th and 18th Avenues is longer than most, as it sits on a shift in the city’s grid which provides extra space for development. The demolition is nearly complete, and excavation for the foundations has already begun. As we noted in a previous Groundbreaker, the nearby Mix development will have to deal with construction noise for some time. Take a look at the site and the surrounding block below:













The development has an interesting design, with two main structures separated by a pedestrian laneway at the ground floor. There will also be seven townhouses in the back laneway near 17th avenue. Take a look at a few renderings below:







The development received its rezoning approval earlier this year from city council, after a planning process which lasted for close to two years. One item that was discussed in detail was a slip-lane that separates the lot from a triangle of grass formed by the curve in Main St. just north of 18th Avenue. Bastion and the project architects, Hotson Bakker Bonniface Haden, had initially planned to turn the triangle into a park area, but keep the slip-lane open to cars (although “traffic calmed”). However, community members voiced their preference for the slip lane to be removed and integrated into the park space. The city’s staff and developers came around to this plan, and rezoning for the site was approved on the condition that the slip-lane be removed (and a community amenity contribution be made by Bastion for the development of the park by the city). Check out the site plan sketches with and without the slip lane:





We’ll keep monitoring progress (and sales success) for this major new development on Main.

3333 Main – developer’s website.
Rezoning application hub for 3333 Main St. – City of Vancouver.


http://www.hoodsurf.com/2010/08/06/groundbreaker-3333-main-st-demolition-almost-complete-making-way-for-bastions-new-development/

pics and such there

[hollywoodnorth]

some pics of the Century on Fraser. a great project all around for that part of town!

Groundbreaker: Dawn of the New Century on Fraser St.

photo from and hosted at www.hoodsurf.com and story at >> http://www.hoodsurf.com/2010/08/10/groundbreaker-dawn-of-the-new-century-on-fraser-st/

http://www.hoodsurf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/IMG_6348.jpg

[hollywoodnorth]

Far East Building on Commercial Drive Planning Rebuild

http://www.hoodsurf.com/2010/08/03/groundbreaker-far-east-building-on-commercial-drive-planning-rebuild/#more-1056

[hollywoodnorth]

odd we never talked about this one yet >>

Tiny Rental Units Coming to 1142 Granville St.

http://www.hoodsurf.com/2010/07/14/groundbreaker-progress-report-tiny-rental-units-coming-to-1142-granville-st/#more-455

[SpongeG]

is that fraser at kingsway?

[Coldrsx]

Is 'OnQue' the former 'Dwell' condo?

[officedweller]

Yes, I think so.

[hollywoodnorth]

is that fraser at kingsway?

Fraser and 29th.

[jsbertram]

is that fraser at kingsway?

1142 Granville St. is a half block north of Davie on Granville St. downtown.

[SpongeG]

Fraser and 29th.

ah that yellow awning made me think of kingsway

[entheosfog]

Far East Building on Commercial Drive Planning Rebuild

http://www.hoodsurf.com/2010/08/03/groundbreaker-far-east-building-on-commercial-drive-planning-rebuild/#more-1056

I wonder if the theatre is going to be back. Even though it's falling apart a little, I go there all the time for cheap first-run movies. Although I wonder how they make any money as the place is usually at least half empty.

[flight_from_kamakura]

wow, thanks hollywoodnorth for the heads up on that blog. who does that belong to?

on the 3333 main - dumping that slip-lane is awesome, so i guess this render here is no longer accurate: http://www.hoodsurf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/3333-Main-St.-1.jpg

on the far east building - she's no beauty (what on the drive is?), but that's finally the sort of massing we want. neat to see. now if we could just double the width of those sidewalks...http://www.hoodsurf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2250-Commercial-Drive-2-1024x299.jpg

[hollywoodnorth]

wow, thanks hollywoodnorth for the heads up on that blog. who does that belong to?


not sure......by the name and quality photos I was thinking Jeremy Hood who posts pictures here often ... his user name is escaping me right now.....?

[flight_from_kamakura]

entheosfog? but he always tags his images with his name. definitely has to be a forumer, there's no question. come on, you, speak up!

[entheosfog]

Nopes, not I, this is the first I've heard of the blog....

[wrenegade]

not sure......by the name and quality photos I was thinking Jeremy Hood who posts pictures here often ... his user name is escaping me right now.....?

Isn't Jeremy Hood is a Calgary SSPer?

[Marcat]

There are now TWO cranes up at 700 West 8th, 2nd one went up late last week.

[Marcat]

At the end of July PCL took possession of the old Willow Pavillion on the VGH Complex, interior demolition by 3R Demolition and Quantum Murray have been in full swing now for almost a month and a half.

[red_lantern]

Anyone heard any news of any developments along Cambie...in particular near King Edward Avenue or 41st. (on a side note, I heard that Oakridge Mall will be re-developed with parking brought down to the bottom and several highrises going up around the mall area).

[entheosfog]

Isn't Jeremy Hood is a Calgary SSPer?

why yes, yes he is! :D

[SpongeG]

Downtown Eastside mural 'touches a little bit on everybody'

Painting is the largest public mural in Western Canada

By Jes Abeita, Vancouver Sun August 20, 2010

...

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Downtown+Eastside+mural+touches+little+everybody/3420918/story.html#ixzz0xHuhQxs2

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/3420919.bin
Called Through the Eye of the Raven, the mural on the Orwell Hotel on East Hastings was created by a team of artists co-ordinated by noted muralist Richard Tetrault.
Photograph by: Wayne Leidenfrost, Vancouver Sun, Vancouver Sun

[whatnext]

I see Hotson Bakker has a development application up for the NE corner of Granville and 13th - for 2 story retail! What a waste of a fairly large lot (currently parking). If the city is serious about density that kind of location should be required to have a residential component. :hell:

[SpongeG]

thats where the shoppers drug mart is going

[whatnext]

thats where the shoppers drug mart is going

Still no reason why there couldn't be 5 stories on that parcel.

[hollywoodnorth]

http://www.hoodsurf.com/2010/08/19/rezoning-battles-cherised-strip-mall-at-broadway-and-oak-could-be-replaced-by-new-office-building/

Rezoning Battles: Cherished Strip-Mall at Broadway and Oak Could Be Replaced by New Office Building


rezoning for 984 West Broadway, the much beloved strip mall at the southeast corner of Broadway and Oak. The city is considering rezoning the site to CD-1 comprehensive development status, to allow a ten storey office building with retail at street level.

The ground floor retail is being tagged as a future site for a transit station if the planned UBC/Millenium rapid transit line is built.

[LeftCoaster]

"the much beloved stripmall."

??

I never thought I would see the day. What's next, heritage status?

From what i remember that stripmall is the exact same as every other small parcel stripmall I have ever seen.

[WarrenC12]

^^^^

This is the one with the 7-11 right? And Money Mart?

Here's the google street view:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=198+Aquarius+Mews,+Vancouver,+Greater+Vancouver+Regional+District,+British+Columbia+V6Z+2Y5,+Canada&ll=49.263152,-123.126282&spn=0.001299,0.003484&z=19&layer=c&cbll=49.263402,-123.126577&panoid=CtlOHQCaa7hi4HG6QaBgTA&cbp=12,134.21,,0,2.16

Heritage my ass. :rolleyes: