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Quixote
Dec 30, 2013, 3:13 AM
^ I too would've cried foul had that been built in DT. But I accept and welcome it as filler for a developing, up-and-coming neighborhood. It helps to put things in proper perspective.

inSaeculaSaeculorum
Dec 30, 2013, 9:14 AM
That's the thing. Some people act like every project is being criticized on these forums and then act butthurt about it. K2LA is uninspired but so what? Who cares? It doesn't need to be. It's infill in a neighborhood that's loaded with dense infill. It fits and it works. It's par the course of a wonderful hood. Ktown is an outer hood, but when you travel into DTLA you want to feel like you've "arrived" somewhere special. That's why DTLA is held to a higher standard. Certain forumers who cry over criticism need to visit the LA metro forum where projects like this are accepted (unless they are really atrocious like the wilshire/la brea monstrosity)

kelbeen
Jan 1, 2014, 2:15 PM
Happy New Year! Just a quick update of the Vermont Towers.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3773/11686434983_c8785b74ae_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11686434983/)
Wilshire (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11686434983/) by Kelifornia (http://www.flickr.com/people/kelifornia/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/11684822533_8aa55f37a1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11684822533/)
Vermont Towers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11684822533/) by Kelifornia (http://www.flickr.com/people/kelifornia/), on Flickr

StethJeff
Jan 1, 2014, 9:34 PM
/\ /\ The glass may not completely hide the podium but I must say it does wonders for the buildings. Whether it's from a distance or even at street-level, the glass makes a very disjointed design look much more cohesive. Despite the fact that we all yacked when we first saw the renderings with the podiums, these dudes may actually surprise us after all when it's fully built.

ConstructDTLA
Jan 1, 2014, 9:52 PM
/\ /\ The glass may not completely hide the podium but I must say it does wonders for the buildings. Whether it's from a distance or even at street-level, the glass makes a very disjointed design look much more cohesive. Despite the fact that we all yacked when we first saw the renderings with the podiums, these dudes may actually surprise us after all when it's fully built.

The glass is doing wonders, but I just discovered this image which suggests they're not totally covering the podium (as they should). :( Though if they paint the structure white like it is in that image it might look 1/2 OK.

http://thevermont.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/plaza_image1.jpg

From http://thevermont.net/#the-plaza

losangelesnative
Jan 1, 2014, 10:15 PM
arent the century plaza towers supposed to break ground soon?

StethJeff
Jan 1, 2014, 10:36 PM
The glass is doing wonders, but I just discovered this image which suggests they're not totally covering the podium (as they should). :( Though if they paint the structure white like it is in that image it might look 1/2 OK.

http://thevermont.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/plaza_image1.jpg

From http://thevermont.net/#the-plaza

:uhh: Looks like I may have spoken too soon.

I hope that isn't the case because the glass helps hide the ugly soooo much. Besides, how long does the color white last in a parking garage??

blackcat23
Jan 2, 2014, 6:39 PM
Another angle of the proposed redevelopment of West Hollywood's Sheriff's Station/Bus Depot.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GJBR9fpJQ38/UsTyLg536tI/AAAAAAAAByQ/dKANDpHxQRg/s1600/cohenmta.jpg

brudy
Jan 2, 2014, 7:26 PM
The glass is doing wonders, but I just discovered this image which suggests they're not totally covering the podium (as they should). :( Though if they paint the structure white like it is in that image it might look 1/2 OK.

http://thevermont.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/plaza_image1.jpg

From http://thevermont.net/#the-plaza

I'm waiting for that exploding-lightning-eyeball thing to go into the center!:tup:

ConstructDTLA
Jan 2, 2014, 8:06 PM
I'm waiting for that exploding-lightning-eyeball thing to go into the center!:tup:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100402161913/lotr/images/f/f5/Eye_of_sauron.jpg

bjornson
Jan 2, 2014, 8:11 PM
Another angle of the proposed redevelopment of West Hollywood's Sheriff's Station/Bus Depot.



This is just atrociously awful. Circulation seems overwrought and massing is not right with the PDC.

Munchitup
Jan 2, 2014, 8:30 PM
This is just atrociously awful. Circulation seems overwrought and massing is not right with the PDC.

I like it okay, PDC isn't much to work with. Doesn't make a lot of sense for a design center in one of Southern California's most urban-design-focused cities to be such a pedestrian hostile campus. As long as those buildings along Santa Monica Boulevard has some sort of commercial street interaction I think it is not terrible. A huge improvement over the current situation, that is for sure.

Illithid Dude
Jan 2, 2014, 8:30 PM
This is just atrociously awful. Circulation seems overwrought and massing is not right with the PDC.

Yeah, it's wonky, but its super early too, so I have hope the issues will be worked out.

elcoronel
Jan 2, 2014, 11:23 PM
West Hollywood is going to really need start needing the metro.

LosAngelesDreamin
Jan 3, 2014, 5:49 AM
West Hollywood is going to really need start needing the metro.

I agree. Pink Line?!?

caligrad
Jan 3, 2014, 6:25 AM
I agree. Pink Line?!?

Pink line would be awesome... :cheers:

LAofAnaheim
Jan 3, 2014, 8:37 PM
Pink Line didn't make operational sense. Metro looked into it. The operations would be 3 rail lines sharing a single track from Union Station to Wilshire/Vermont and then 1 line would continue with the Red Line and re-join the Purple Line in Beverly Hills. Nice in theory, but not practical for operations. Imagine having to wait at Pershing Square for every 3rd train to take to your destination in North Hollywood if you ran 3 lines on a single track.

Now, the Crenshaw Northen extension to Hollywood via La Cienega/West Hollywood would do wonders..........a connection from Hollywood to the South Bay via WeHo, Sunset Strip, Beverly Center, Wilshire, Mid-Cities, Crenshaw, etc.....

That is more exciting and practical.

caligrad
Jan 3, 2014, 9:33 PM
Pink Line didn't make operational sense. Metro looked into it. The operations would be 3 rail lines sharing a single track from Union Station to Wilshire/Vermont and then 1 line would continue with the Red Line and re-join the Purple Line in Beverly Hills. Nice in theory, but not practical for operations. Imagine having to wait at Pershing Square for every 3rd train to take to your destination in North Hollywood if you ran 3 lines on a single track.

Now, the Crenshaw Northen extension to Hollywood via La Cienega/West Hollywood would do wonders..........a connection from Hollywood to the South Bay via WeHo, Sunset Strip, Beverly Center, Wilshire, Mid-Cities, Crenshaw, etc.....

That is more exciting and practical.

Oh wow, I didn't know metro had already looked heavily into the proposed pink line to already cancel it, where did you get that info so I can see? I know there were a couple of different routes that were considered, the one that made the most sense to me was it being its own route going down santa monica blvd. Wwhen it reached the purple line at Wilshire going towards santa monica, it would end, and going the other route towards downtown it would go down santa monica and than route down sunset blvd until it ended at union stations doorstep...... that route would have connected a lot of neighborhoods that are not yet connected. :shrug:

StethJeff
Jan 5, 2014, 12:29 AM
I feel like an eventual Pink Line can serve so many different glaring LA transit needs.

Rather than running the Pink Line along Vermont and into downtown along with Red/Purple, why not make it run the length of Santa Monica from Beverly Hills --> West Hollywood --> Hollywood --> crossing Red Line and onto Sunset where it can run past Dodger Stadium (and hopefully a future NFL stadium) --> underneath Chinatown to link up with Union Station --> make a stop at Piggyback Yards in anticipation of a new massive riverside park that become's the regions new real central park --> LAC+USC --> Cal State LA.

StethJeff
Jan 5, 2014, 12:33 AM
The way you satisfy LA County voters in addition to interested parties who want to distribute rail throughout the county rather than concentrated within the central core is by selling them on rail to Dodger Stadium, not on rail through West Hollywood.

inSaeculaSaeculorum
Jan 5, 2014, 3:21 AM
I don't get it, is a public vote the only way the county can raise taxes? The voters can suck it. When has democracy ever worked? Never.

Munchitup
Jan 5, 2014, 5:07 AM
I don't get it, is a public vote the only way the county can raise taxes? The voters can suck it. When has democracy ever worked? Never.

Measure R?

kelbeen
Jan 5, 2014, 8:12 AM
Blvd6200

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2848/11770093294_2704bafa20_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11770093294/)
Blvd6200 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11770093294/) by Kelifornia (http://www.flickr.com/people/kelifornia/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7457/11769955283_cd3ff58c46_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11769955283/)
Blvd6200 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11769955283/) by Kelifornia (http://www.flickr.com/people/kelifornia/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7443/11769731815_d46c0b722f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11769731815/)
Blvd6200 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11769731815/) by Kelifornia (http://www.flickr.com/people/kelifornia/), on Flickr

Sunset Gordon

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3708/11769992853_47b28007af_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11769992853/)
Sunset Gordon (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kelifornia/11769992853/) by Kelifornia (http://www.flickr.com/people/kelifornia/), on Flickr

Wally West
Jan 5, 2014, 7:42 PM
Thanks for the photo update, kelbeen!

Even though Blvd 6200 isn't finished yet, there's definitely a better sense of livelihood for that part of Hollywood. The empty lot next to the Pantages certainly was a mood killer.

SimonLA
Jan 6, 2014, 2:45 AM
Thanks for the photo update, kelbeen!

Even though Blvd 6200 isn't finished yet, there's definitely a better sense of livelihood for that part of Hollywood. The empty lot next to the Pantages certainly was a mood killer.

Does anyone know anything about Phase II of Blvd6200? I'm scared Clarett (developer) will back out because of the earthquake hysteria in the area. The parking lot next to the W--the planned site--is massive and awful.

ChelseaFC
Jan 6, 2014, 4:20 AM
Does anyone know anything about Phase II of Blvd6200? I'm scared Clarett (developer) will back out because of the earthquake hysteria in the area. The parking lot next to the W--the planned site--is massive and awful.

That is the main parking lot for the Pantages. No idea where I would park otherwise.

blackcat23
Jan 6, 2014, 4:34 AM
That is the main parking lot for the Pantages. No idea where I would park otherwise.

Both phases of Blvd 6200 have 1,000+ car garages with spaces set aside for the Pantages.

LAofAnaheim
Jan 6, 2014, 8:54 PM
That is the main parking lot for the Pantages. No idea where I would park otherwise.

Metro Red Line?

LAofAnaheim
Jan 6, 2014, 9:01 PM
Oh wow, I didn't know metro had already looked heavily into the proposed pink line to already cancel it, where did you get that info so I can see? I know there were a couple of different routes that were considered, the one that made the most sense to me was it being its own route going down santa monica blvd. Wwhen it reached the purple line at Wilshire going towards santa monica, it would end, and going the other route towards downtown it would go down santa monica and than route down sunset blvd until it ended at union stations doorstep...... that route would have connected a lot of neighborhoods that are not yet connected. :shrug:

Here you go! http://thesource.metro.net/2010/10/14/is-there-a-pink-line-in-the-way-off-future/

I think a Crenshaw Northern extension via La Cienega and then a eastward turn on Santa Monica Blvd (though WeHo) would be better. Imagine having the rail line continue further east to connect with the Red Line at Vermont/Santa Monica station, and then continue via Sunset Blvd and ending at Union Station would be best. That way, you've connected Echo Park, Silver Lake, East Hollywood and West Hollywood with the Metro rail system. New transfer stations at Vermont/Santa Monca (Red Line), Wilshire/La Cienega (Purple Line), Expo/Crenshaw (Expo Line) and Aviation/Century through Redondo Beach Station (Green Line).

Basically, I agree with your prognosis.

caligrad
Jan 6, 2014, 9:57 PM
Here you go! http://thesource.metro.net/2010/10/14/is-there-a-pink-line-in-the-way-off-future/

I think a Crenshaw Northern extension via La Cienega and then a eastward turn on Santa Monica Blvd (though WeHo) would be better. Imagine having the rail line continue further east to connect with the Red Line at Vermont/Santa Monica station, and then continue via Sunset Blvd and ending at Union Station would be best. That way, you've connected Echo Park, Silver Lake, East Hollywood and West Hollywood with the Metro rail system. New transfer stations at Vermont/Santa Monca (Red Line), Wilshire/La Cienega (Purple Line), Expo/Crenshaw (Expo Line) and Aviation/Century through Redondo Beach Station (Green Line).

Basically, I agree with your prognosis.

ah thanks for that article. Yeah that line should have been canceled. Metro staff should be fired for that one HAHa the proposed pink line that they proposed would have been a waste of time and money and it truly would not have seen a lot of riders to validate a heavy rail/subway system. However... I think in the near future we will see another proposal for LAs next subway from Wilshire, up santa monica blvd, down sunset to connect to Union station with transfer stations in between. That line would see a LOT of ridership and connect a lot of unconnected neighborhoods. IT will be interesting to see other plans in the works for LA's lower neighborhoods, light rail no doubt, everything below the 10 fwy and near LAX and the south bay are still unconnected. Crenshaw line is a start

LAofAnaheim
Jan 6, 2014, 10:56 PM
ah thanks for that article. Yeah that line should have been canceled. Metro staff should be fired for that one HAHa the proposed pink line that they proposed would have been a waste of time and money and it truly would not have seen a lot of riders to validate a heavy rail/subway system. However... I think in the near future we will see another proposal for LAs next subway from Wilshire, up santa monica blvd, down sunset to connect to Union station with transfer stations in between. That line would see a LOT of ridership and connect a lot of unconnected neighborhoods. IT will be interesting to see other plans in the works for LA's lower neighborhoods, light rail no doubt, everything below the 10 fwy and near LAX and the south bay are still unconnected. Crenshaw line is a start

Metro never proposed the Pink Line in its current incarnation. It was started from a blogger, and since it gained attention, Metro evaluated it for the westside subway extension.

No need to fire Metro's staff, they're doing the best job they can, with the current political climate and having to fight with Homeowner Associations / Neighborhood groups left and right.

RuFFy
Jan 6, 2014, 11:44 PM
I feel like an eventual Pink Line can serve so many different glaring LA transit needs.

Rather than running the Pink Line along Vermont and into downtown along with Red/Purple, why not make it run the length of Santa Monica from Beverly Hills --> West Hollywood --> Hollywood --> crossing Red Line and onto Sunset where it can run past Dodger Stadium (and hopefully a future NFL stadium) --> underneath Chinatown to link up with Union Station --> make a stop at Piggyback Yards in anticipation of a new massive riverside park that become's the regions new real central park --> LAC+USC --> Cal State LA.

I'd like to see the Pink Line come back as light rail starting in Century City along Santa Monica Blvd before turning north to Glendale via the Hyperion/Glendale/Brand Blvd corridor. It could also offer a connection to the Red Line at Santa Monica/Vermont and with a possible future extension of the Orange Line toward Pasadena near it's terminus in Glendale.

inSaeculaSaeculorum
Jan 6, 2014, 11:48 PM
how about a HRT extension going south on vermont down to the green line vermont station with the red line being rerouted along this extension? Then you could have the pink line run from downtown along with the purple where they'll split off at vermont/wilshire and run along the red line where it would then split off at hollywood and highland to run along santa monica before rejoining with the purple line to the westside. This would give santa monica blvd an hrt line that connects to downtown and the westside and avoid the whole running 3 lines on a single track dillema. btw not pretending metro hasn't considered any of this, just wanna know what the forum thinks

LosAngelesSportsFan
Jan 6, 2014, 11:49 PM
I'd like to see the Pink Line come back as light rail starting in Century City along Santa Monica Blvd before turning north to Glendale via the Hyperion/Glendale/Brand Blvd corridor. It could also offer a connection to the Red Line at Santa Monica/Vermont and with a possible future extension of the Orange Line toward Pasadena near it's terminus in Glendale.

Definitely cant be light rail as the ridership will be too high.

ChelseaFC
Jan 8, 2014, 7:19 AM
Anyone have any info on 1122 Gayley in the Westwood village at Gayley/Lindbrook? (not the proposed tower on Wilshire). It's pretty prime location and had been an empty lot for at least a few years. The hole they started building from was pretty deep.

Illithid Dude
Jan 8, 2014, 8:54 AM
Anyone have any info on 1122 Gayley in the Westwood village at Gayley/Lindbrook? (not the proposed tower on Wilshire). It's pretty prime location and had been an empty lot for at least a few years. The hole they started building from was pretty deep.

http://cdn.archinect.net/images/1200x/fq/fqzu3oax5y249hba.jpg

Apartments above retail. Actually a pretty good move for Westwood - adding residents right in the village. Should help the place get out of its slump, and the design isn't terrible either.

bobbyv
Jan 9, 2014, 3:55 AM
http://m.la.curbed.com/archives/2014/01/the_hollywood_fault_has_finally_been_mapped_and_its_bad_news.php

I guess we won't be seeing the millennium towers go up:(

Illithid Dude
Jan 9, 2014, 4:10 AM
http://m.la.curbed.com/archives/2014/01/the_hollywood_fault_has_finally_been_mapped_and_its_bad_news.php

I guess we won't be seeing the millennium towers go up

While part of me is upset at this, part of me also thinks that this is ultimately the right decision. If a building is fundamentally unsafe, than it shouldn't be built.

losangelesnative
Jan 9, 2014, 4:44 AM
if i were millennium partners i would take the millennium towers make em taller redesign them and put them downtown since it can officially not be built now

blackcat23
Jan 9, 2014, 5:36 AM
State law holds that new construction cannot be within 50 feet of a fault line, and anything within 500 feet requires stringent seismic testing. The Millennium Hollywood parcels are large enough that there is probably still buildable area, even if the fault line does run through the property. 6230 Yucca may not be so lucky. We won't know for sure until the developers dig trenches.

This isn't good news for the projects around Capitol Records, but their opponents are premature in declaring victory.

caligrad
Jan 9, 2014, 5:53 AM
^^^^^ This is good and bad in many aspects.... The bad.... Hollywood will see a stump skyline on and near the couple of blocks surrounding Hollywood blvd... 6-7 story buildings like the ones already going up in the area... which isn't a bad thing for the area... But another thing that is going to suck is what I just mentioned... most likely what we will see going up around Capital Records is a 6-7 story "shit box" as some like to say on this forum. Which I don't think is a good thing for the immediate area parking lots of Capital Records which where the proposal was suppose to go.. it wouldn't kill to put two 20-30 story buildings there...... granted I was probably one of the lone ones who thought the proposals scale was a bit much for that area. another bad thing that will come of this is that EVERY FREAKING NIMBY IN LA COUNTY NOW KNOWS TO USE FAULTLINES TO GET THEIR WAY! but yet they are perfectly fine with putting their homes ontop of faults. But if this building would have been unsafe than it shouldn't be built.

Now for the good..... The developers, im hoping and praying... will decide to move the project to a different city center instead of canceling it completely as someone else has pointed out... I can see this going up on Wilshire, or even century city, the first design wouldn't fit in downtown but the second design would... and god knows I would love to see this project in downtown Long Beach :( its skyline hasn't grown in 10+ years. So many parking lots and empty areas downtown long beach, google maps shows my pain HAHA only time will tell what will happen

caligrad
Jan 9, 2014, 5:56 AM
State law holds that new construction cannot be within 50 feet of a fault line, and anything within 500 feet requires stringent seismic testing. The Millennium Hollywood parcels are large enough that there is probably still buildable area, even if the fault line does run through the property. 6230 Yucca may not be so lucky. We won't know for sure until the developers dig trenches.

This isn't good news for the projects around Capitol Records, but their opponents are premature in declaring victory.

Yeah....people were giving up hope already but looking at the map... something can still be built on the site... and 50 feet away from the fault... that should be easily manageable... I don't think the project will be totally canceled but it will be down sized.

LA21st
Jan 9, 2014, 7:08 AM
I had a job interview today 3520 Wilshire. The company said the owner is going to convert the building into condos.

bobbyv
Jan 9, 2014, 7:25 AM
I had a job interview today 3520 Wilshire. The company said the owner is going to convert the building into condos.

Convert or build? I looked up that address and it looks like a 2 story food court building.

LA21st
Jan 9, 2014, 7:44 AM
Whoops. 3550.

Muji
Jan 9, 2014, 9:39 AM
Well, the future residents of 3550 Wilshire will have some very nice views. Speaking of that part of Wilshire, The Line Hotel quietly soft opened this week according to LA Mag. Their blog post has a couple of pictures, mostly of the interior. They've apparently done some very nice stuff to their Wilshire Boulevard ground floor.

Photo credit: Elina Shatkin for LA Mag (http://www.lamag.com/laculture/culturefilesblog/2014/01/07/photo-gallery-a-look-inside-the-line-koreatowns-hip-new-hotel)
http://www.lamag.com/Pics/PhotoAlbums/146916/5/line29__1600W.Jpeg?1389260054813

http://www.lamag.com/Pics/PhotoAlbums/146916/5/line8__1600W.Jpeg

blackcat23
Jan 9, 2014, 2:19 PM
Interesting. Jamison Services owns 3550 Wilshire, along with half the other office buildings in Koreatown, but they're notorious for not maintaining their properties. Hopefully they'll do better as residential landlords. I believe they're also partnering with the Hankey Group to develop the Wilshire/Hobart parcel.

In other Koreatown news, this is proposed just north of Wilshire and Catalina. 75 hotel rooms, 7 apartments, 1,500 sq ft of retail, expected to break ground in 2015.

http://buildinglosangeles.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-nest-brings-apartmenthotel-action.html#more

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Yfo_3ksmhMk/Us32LY1SgrI/AAAAAAAAB1A/Wf0fFOokBcw/s1600/thenest.PNG

Muji
Jan 9, 2014, 3:36 PM
Well, I can't say that the rendering looks any good, but otherwise that seems like a very appropriate project for the location and neighborhood.

Steve2726
Jan 9, 2014, 3:49 PM
Demolition has begun on the Petersen Building at the SE corner of Sunset and La Cienega. That is the last remaining structure that needs to be removed for that project to begin.

My neighbors are surely cheering the Hollywood fault line map as it potentially puts the kibosh on this project-

http://www.8150sunset.com/
https://www.facebook.com/stop8150

I for one am not very excited to hear that I'm a few hundred yards from a fault line but I'm not a Nimby with an agenda....

inSaeculaSaeculorum
Jan 9, 2014, 3:57 PM
Well, I can't say that the rendering looks any good, but otherwise that seems like a very appropriate project for the location and neighborhood.

yeah its fine, driveway and all. whats interesting is the starbucks in the rendering. you usually don't have businesses on the middle of the block on N/S side street in ktown as they are exlusively residential. LA's "linearity" always hurts the pedestrian experience ,

brudy
Jan 9, 2014, 4:25 PM
Well, I can't say that the rendering looks any good, but otherwise that seems like a very appropriate project for the location and neighborhood.

The renderings don't look great but Blackcat's blog makes it sound like it could have potential with plaster, stone, and corrugated metal.

Also, I'd like to call out Blackcat's newly coined phrase "Anti-Stucco Avengers". When I can I buy that t-shirt and/or cape?

edluva
Jan 9, 2014, 4:57 PM
that proposal's design isn't exactly about sophistication or subtlety is it?

what developers in LA don't seem to get: if you're going to be bold, make sure as hell you know what you're doing. I just don't see crap like this going up in more highly respected cities. I think there's a reason behind that.

the tacky, nouveau riche, jersey shore side of LA rears its ugly head again. if stupid had a look, this would be it.

Illithid Dude
Jan 9, 2014, 5:13 PM
that proposal's design isn't exactly about sophistication or subtlety is it?

what developers in LA don't seem to get: if you're going to be bold, make sure as hell you know what you're doing. I just don't see crap like this going up in more highly respected cities. I think there's a reason behind that.

the tacky, nouveau riche, jersey shore side of LA rears its ugly head again. if stupid had a look, this would be it.

Yeah, it's ugly, but it's such a minor building that I can't really be bothered to be upset about it.

LA21st
Jan 9, 2014, 6:01 PM
I was on 9th floor of 3550. My view was looking straight Wilshire toward downtown. WOW.

She said the office leases were going to expire sometime this year.

I don't know if these office conversions to residential are a good thing though. Don't we need Wilshire Center to remain a employment center?

LA21st
Jan 9, 2014, 6:04 PM
yeah its fine, driveway and all. whats interesting is the starbucks in the rendering. you usually don't have businesses on the middle of the block on N/S side street in ktown as they are exlusively residential. LA's "linearity" always hurts the pedestrian experience ,

Serrano has a couple of restaurants and cafes but I can't think of any others. I agree, it's kind of frustrating. At least 6th Street has a ton of commercial establishments.

8th does on the south.

Munchitup
Jan 9, 2014, 6:20 PM
If the Millennium Towers do not end up being able to be built on this lot, I would hope the city could find a way to purchase the properties and build a park on them. That part of Hollywood could really use some nice urban park space and that would be much better than leaving them as the ugly, momentum-killing parking lots that they are today.

I'm not that disappointed that the towers probably won't be built. However I am disappointed that the Hollywood NIMBYs and their misinformation campaign to get this development stopped will be somewhat-success (even if it came through dumb luck).

ConstructDTLA
Jan 9, 2014, 7:09 PM
Interesting article about the terrible shape we're still in:

"Dramatic Doomsday Report Calls Los Angeles A City In Decline"

A panel convened by City Council President Herb Wesson has just released a Cassandra-style report declaring Los Angeles A CITY IN DECLINE!!!!1!!1 (formatting and punctuation ours): "strangled by traffic, weighed down by poverty and suffering from 'a crisis of leadership and direction,'" according to the LA Times. Uh, did they not hear what GQ just said about Downtown? The report will be released today, but the LAT shares some lowlights in an article that ends with five paragraphs detailing conflicts of interest. The 13-member Los Angeles 2020 Commission formed last year to tackle job creation and economic expansion, but it addresses so much more in its report, which is, no joke, called "A Time For Truth" (tone it down, dudes): It says the LAUSD is "failing our children and betraying the hopes of their hardworking parents'"; that the Measure R transpo tax hike wouldn't fix traffic; that the LAPD's 10,000-officer benchmark is "not real" because of the way officers are actually deployed; that LA was too slow in approving USC's development plans; that the city is "dramatically underinvesting" in the harbor, LAX, and the LADWP; and that the LA basin has become a walled prison island populated only with criminals, perverts, and moral reprobates. "The city where the future once came to happen has been living in the past and leaving tomorrow to sort itself out," the report warns.

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2014/01/dramatic_doomsday_report_calls_los_angeles_a_city_in_decline.php

Munchitup
Jan 9, 2014, 7:12 PM
What exactly does that have to do with development in Los Angeles? Just seems like bait to start a flame war on this thread (you've already done a find job of that on the DTLA board). I believe there is a thread in the city discussions dedicated to this report.

ConstructDTLA
Jan 9, 2014, 7:14 PM
What exactly does that have to do with development in Los Angeles? Just seems like bait to start a flame war on this thread (you've already done a find job of that on the DTLA board). I believe there is a thread in the city discussions dedicated to this report.

It has everything to do with the development of Los Angeles... Did you read it?

Munchitup
Jan 9, 2014, 7:23 PM
It has everything to do with the development of Los Angeles... Did you read it?

Yes I read it and to me it seems to largely deal with economic / social issues. And I don't disagree with a lot of it, Los Angeles needs to step up to the plate in this regard. Much of the criticism is warranted - but someone said on the other thread that this was a commission looking for issues, and they found them.

I just feel like it is an unnecessary detour and probably won't bring up much useful conversation. Sorry, normally just a lurker but :shrug: back to the shadows.

ChelseaFC
Jan 10, 2014, 1:07 AM
Update on Playhouse Plaza in Pasadena

http://instagram.com/p/i92e9eypf_/

http://www.pasadenaplayhouseplaza.com/index.asp

In other Pasadena news, excited to announce that Jimmy John's is coming to the S. Lake District!

caligrad
Jan 10, 2014, 5:58 AM
LOL yeah I have to agree with Munchitup on this one..... OK WE GET IT, you want people to read this article but why post it on 3 different discussion threads... and to post it randomly. pretty much everybody on the DTLA thread reads and looks on this one as well... I know I do.... But with all the development happening around the city, metro expansion, LAX modernizing and expanding its facilities, Downtown and city wide developments, population increases, jobless rate going down, more grads completing college and staying in LA, tourism on the rise in the city, possible football team coming here, a new tallest currently being built in the city, more high rises in the works and on the drawing boards, more than ever before and not to mention LA county plans on hiring 2500-3500 new teachers in the next 2-3 years and adding law enforcement finally. you have to be an idiot or completely blind or depressed and miserable to think L.A. is a city in decline. if L.A is doing bad, than so is her sister cities on the east coast. And not to mention 2013 was the lowest crime year in L.A. in decades, less homicides and other crimes were recorded last year than previous years and its only getting better. Three things I will agree with though is 1. yes traffic is horrible.... but traffic is an issue in every major modern city. people love their cars too much. including myself. traffic isn't going anywhere unless we run out of oil. 2. Yes L.A. is full of idiots and thugs. But again, what major city isn't ??? even in Europe they have the same issues we do with crime and other things, its called the facts of life in a city, want peace and quiet and no idiots or thugs ? I heard Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas, and Idaho would love to have you. 3. Leadership............ and again.... yes we need good leadership.....but again.... What major city, or country for that matter, does NOT have leadership issues??? everybody has different views about how things should be. people cant always see eye to eye. It wouldn't be fun that way. Lets see what our new Mayor will do before we whine about leadership issues.

losangelesnative
Jan 10, 2014, 6:18 AM
^^^Amen to that caligrad, on point with everything you said LA is problably the best i has ever been and is only getting better

caligrad
Jan 10, 2014, 6:37 AM
SO ! back on topic. MILLENIUM TOWERS HAVE NOT BEEN CANCELED YET. KTLA 5 had a story about it on the news tonight. 1 thing I noticed..... the nimbys lawyer shows an image of the proposed site from above.... and the fault line ironically runs right through the project, and ironically curves so that it goes right through the center of each tower proposed.... and apparently it runs right under the Capital Records building too?? like dead on right in the center of the Capital Records building???? The president of the Hollywood chamber of commerce Leron Gubler said " this is just a little set back, all this means is that the developers will for sure have to run more tests for the project and if there are traces that the fault line indeed falls within the 50ft ruling for building near faults, than the developers said that they will reconfigure the project and move the buildings around and make adjustments to meet the requirements"........than the news anchor went on to say " the developer has until July to finish doing their tests, the maps presented are still not 100% accurate and the finalized maps will be published in July, If the developer can prove that their buildings are no where near the fault and the fault is actually further away than shown, than legally they will be allowed to build on the land as they please". I think the nimbys were hoping that the developer would back out and call it quits before the July date. So I see one of 3 things happening.... 1. They do more tests, the fault line will be further north than people thought and things will go to plan.... 2. the fault line is where the nimbys said it is and the project will only be downsized but still be built. 3. The developer says screw this, enough with the headache and move the project somewhere else.. Century City ? Downtown ? a couple of blocks south ?...I'm kind of confused on this ruling though.. a couple of years ago I remember on the news that they said that downtown was riddled with fault lines, especially near the financial district and city hall...reason why city hall went through that retrofit to get base isolators, yet high rises are still being built downtown. what's the difference ?

caligrad
Jan 10, 2014, 6:42 AM
^^^Amen to that caligrad, on point with everything you said LA is problably the best i has ever been and is only getting better

Thanks. I thought I could handle myself and not feed into some peoples madness. But sometimes it gets my blood boiling to the point of wanting to crack my screen that I have to respond to the madness HAHA, I told myself when I joined this forum a month ago that I would not feed into the madness and fall for the bickering fights that happen to often on here but my god. now I understand why people do it. "WOOOOSSSAAHHHH" haha

JRinSoCal
Jan 10, 2014, 6:58 AM
Perhaps the difference is that Hollywood is full of NIMBY assholes represented by a NIMBY asshole lawyer opposing every development any possible way they can.

caligrad
Jan 10, 2014, 7:06 AM
Perhaps the difference is that Hollywood is full of NIMBY assholes represented by a NIMBY asshole lawyer opposing every development any possible way they can.

HAHA I was thinking it...... But you said it HAHA yeah it doesn't make any sense. Downtown has a bigger more worrisome fault running right under it and people aren't even crying about a new high rise going up downtown. Hollywood has a pretty much low threat fault running through it and everyone wants to cry and call lawyers. :koko:

NYC2ATX
Jan 10, 2014, 7:46 AM
that proposal's design isn't exactly about sophistication or subtlety is it?

what developers in LA don't seem to get: if you're going to be bold, make sure as hell you know what you're doing. I just don't see crap like this going up in more highly respected cities. I think there's a reason behind that.

the tacky, nouveau riche, jersey shore side of LA rears its ugly head again. if stupid had a look, this would be it.

nah but trust me, every city has its bad eggs. Look up Gene Kaufman, Sam Chang, and Karl Fischer. They're three developers/architects currently hellbent on leaving their skidmarks on every corner of the city of New York. Anyone can be a victim :rolleyes:

And I for one view Los Angeles with very high respect. I know you do too, but just sayin' ;)

blackcat23
Jan 10, 2014, 2:14 PM
http://buildinglosangeles.blogspot.com/2014/01/hollywoods-dream-hotel-returns-bigger.html

Plans for the Dream Hotel near Cahuenga/Selma are back again, this time at 10-stories with 182 hotel rooms.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F7BvVlFdOYA/Us9bhCUwrJI/AAAAAAAAB14/4zD56BOQEJs/s1600/selmahotel.jpg

The Illusive Man
Jan 10, 2014, 5:41 PM
LOL yeah I have to agree with Munchitup on this one..... OK WE GET IT, you want people to read this article but why post it on 3 different discussion threads... and to post it randomly. pretty much everybody on the DTLA thread reads and looks on this one as well... I know I do.... But with all the development happening around the city, metro expansion, LAX modernizing and expanding its facilities, Downtown and city wide developments, population increases, jobless rate going down, more grads completing college and staying in LA, tourism on the rise in the city, possible football team coming here, a new tallest currently being built in the city, more high rises in the works and on the drawing boards, more than ever before and not to mention LA county plans on hiring 2500-3500 new teachers in the next 2-3 years and adding law enforcement finally. you have to be an idiot or completely blind or depressed and miserable to think L.A. is a city in decline. if L.A is doing bad, than so is her sister cities on the east coast. And not to mention 2013 was the lowest crime year in L.A. in decades, less homicides and other crimes were recorded last year than previous years and its only getting better. Three things I will agree with though is 1. yes traffic is horrible.... but traffic is an issue in every major modern city. people love their cars too much. including myself. traffic isn't going anywhere unless we run out of oil. 2. Yes L.A. is full of idiots and thugs. But again, what major city isn't ??? even in Europe they have the same issues we do with crime and other things, its called the facts of life in a city, want peace and quiet and no idiots or thugs ? I heard Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas, and Idaho would love to have you. 3. Leadership............ and again.... yes we need good leadership.....but again.... What major city, or country for that matter, does NOT have leadership issues??? everybody has different views about how things should be. people cant always see eye to eye. It wouldn't be fun that way. Lets see what our new Mayor will do before we whine about leadership issues.

Very well said. I don't understand how anyone can say LA is in decline. It's far better than it's ever been in my lifetime and will only get better.

Some people just love doomsday prophecies and look at everything like the sky is falling. These people crack me up.

brudy
Jan 10, 2014, 5:59 PM
http://buildinglosangeles.blogspot.com/2014/01/hollywoods-dream-hotel-returns-bigger.html

Plans for the Dream Hotel near Cahuenga/Selma are back again, this time at 10-stories with 182 hotel rooms.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F7BvVlFdOYA/Us9bhCUwrJI/AAAAAAAAB14/4zD56BOQEJs/s1600/selmahotel.jpg

I like the tower portion - the outer skin looks like Art Noveau meets industrial. Pretty cool.

inSaeculaSaeculorum
Jan 10, 2014, 6:13 PM
Los Angeles isn't in decline but it is not growing either. That report highlights serious problems concerning poverty, public health services and the rising income gap. It's really vacuous and vapid for the boosters here to plug their ears and scream "la, la, la" when confronted with these issues, but we know for everyone here L.A. begins downtown and stops at the 405.

LA is reorientating itself to become more urban, but it's not growing. I know this forum is generally right-wing/libertarian leaning but pointing out a few new downtown buildings and some trendy boutique shops is a really shallow indicator of growth.

LosAngelesSportsFan
Jan 10, 2014, 6:20 PM
Los Angeles isn't in decline but it is not growing either. That report highlights serious problems concerning poverty, public health services and the rising income gap. It's really vacuous and vapid for the boosters here to plug their ears and scream "la, la, la" when confronted with these issues, but we know for everyone here L.A. begins downtown and stops at the 405.

LA is reorientating itself to become more urban, but it's not growing. I know this forum is generally right-wing/libertarian leaning but pointing out a few new downtown buildings and some trendy boutique shops is a really shallow indicator of growth.

LOL you couldnt be more wrong.

Also, its not jsut a couple boutiques and a few new downtown buildings. There is a huge momentum in LA right now and the entire metro is booming with construction, film jobs are up, tourism is up, tech is booming, etc

The Illusive Man
Jan 10, 2014, 6:26 PM
Los Angeles isn't in decline but it is not growing either. That report highlights serious problems concerning poverty, public health services and the rising income gap. It's really vacuous and vapid for the boosters here to plug their ears and scream "la, la, la" when confronted with these issues, but we know for everyone here L.A. begins downtown and stops at the 405.

LA is reorientating itself to become more urban, but it's not growing. I know this forum is generally right-wing/libertarian leaning but pointing out a few new downtown buildings and some trendy boutique shops is a really shallow indicator of growth.

There are certainly issues, but LA is most certainly growing, although the growth is slow at the moment. Downtown is not the only place with development, the entire metro is changing. Rough neighborhoods are improving. Hell, my area in Mar Vista/Venice is better than it's ever been.

I see our faults, but a city like LA will never die. I see a bright future ahead for us and I'm excited.

SoCalKid
Jan 10, 2014, 7:47 PM
There are certainly issues, but LA is most certainly growing, although the growth is slow at the moment. Downtown is not the only place with development, the entire metro is changing. Rough neighborhoods are improving. Hell, my area in Mar Vista/Venice is better than it's ever been.

I see our faults, but a city like LA will never die. I see a bright future ahead for us and I'm excited.

Purely in terms of population, LA is definitely growing. Most estimates predict by between .5% and 1% a year for the rest of the decade. That doesn't sound like a lot but that is actually modestly strong growth.

SoCalKid
Jan 10, 2014, 7:47 PM
Purely in terms of population, LA is definitely growing. Most estimates predict by between .5% and 1% a year for the rest of the decade. That doesn't sound like a lot but that is actually modestly strong growth.

That is at the county level btw.

BrandonJXN
Jan 10, 2014, 7:51 PM
Los Angeles isn't in decline but it is not growing either. That report highlights serious problems concerning poverty, public health services and the rising income gap. It's really vacuous and vapid for the boosters here to plug their ears and scream "la, la, la" when confronted with these issues, but we know for everyone here L.A. begins downtown and stops at the 405.



This exact same thing can be said here in Chicago. Just add closing schools, high crime rate, and the Polar Vortex to that list. LA is going through growing pains. It's maturing. It's not going to fall off into the Pacific anytime soon.

LA21st
Jan 10, 2014, 8:07 PM
http://buildinglosangeles.blogspot.com/2014/01/hollywoods-dream-hotel-returns-bigger.html

Plans for the Dream Hotel near Cahuenga/Selma are back again, this time at 10-stories with 182 hotel rooms.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F7BvVlFdOYA/Us9bhCUwrJI/AAAAAAAAB14/4zD56BOQEJs/s1600/selmahotel.jpg

Very nice. That's one of my favorite places in the city.

bobbyv
Jan 10, 2014, 11:53 PM
Very nice. That's one of my favorite places in the city.

I wish something would be proposed for that strip mall on cahuenga and Selma.

mdiederi
Jan 11, 2014, 2:53 AM
Looking at USGS data (http://geohazards.usgs.gov/cfusion/qfault/qf_web_disp.cfm?disp_cd=C&qfault_or=29&ims_cf_cd=cf), the Hollywood fault dips over 50° to the north, away from Millennium. I can't find a topographical map detailed enough to see the exact location of the fault on the surface, though earlier low resolution maps draw it just north of the Millennium. I wonder how much they paid that geologist to redraw the fault lines through the property, since he didn't dig any trenches for his study to physically find the fault. It's a shallow fault that extends from the LA River to the Sepulveda Pass along the base of the Santa Monica Mountains. The last maximum quake on the fault was over 6,000 years ago, and its maximum potential is a 6.5 magnitude quake, which is plenty strong enough to cause damage, but they can build tall buildings to withstand much stronger quakes than that. The smaller cheaply built buildings all over that area are in much greater danger than a sturdy tall building

StethJeff
Jan 11, 2014, 3:35 AM
I like the tower portion - the outer skin looks like Art Noveau meets industrial. Pretty cool.

Excellent. I don't need to be blown away by height. But I do want non-cookie cutter growth that can transform a neighborhood. Bonus points for actually having some interesting design elements that don't fall into the tired 1111 Wilshire variety.

caligrad
Jan 11, 2014, 5:32 AM
Los Angeles isn't in decline but it is not growing either. That report highlights serious problems concerning poverty, public health services and the rising income gap. It's really vacuous and vapid for the boosters here to plug their ears and scream "la, la, la" when confronted with these issues, but we know for everyone here L.A. begins downtown and stops at the 405.

LA is reorientating itself to become more urban, but it's not growing. I know this forum is generally right-wing/libertarian leaning but pointing out a few new downtown buildings and some trendy boutique shops is a really shallow indicator of growth.


Again......must I repost everything I have already written...... your statement "L.A. is not growing either"......... in what universe is it not growing? its literally bursting at the seams.. reason why L.A is starting to build up and not out. or economy is growing, population is growing and so on....we are growing at a very good and steady pace..... and we are the largest economy on the west coast., from the way it looks, we will always be the main gateway on the west coast......


Public health services.... again....L.A. county has some of the best hospitals in the nation and many are upgrading and adding to their facilities. now if you are referring to homeless people not having adequate health care.... I work at a hospital and trust me... they have access if they choose to use it and all the free clinics around the city...L.A. public health is doing just fine ! if not the best since pre recession times....



Your next statement " everyone here thinks L.A. begins downtown and stops at the 405".... No one is forgetting the L.A. that continues below the 10..... ive seen plenty of people on here mentioning most of ALL of L.A.....which leads to my next observation of another one of your statements that made me scratch my head......."pointing out a few new downtown buildings and some trendy boutique shops is a really shallow indicator of growth".............so than basically your saying you don't get out that much..... HAVE YOU VENTURED SOUTH OF THE 10 FWY YOURSELF???? development is going crazy ALL OVER THE METRO, Long Beach, LAX, most of the south bay, stretches along the 605, I drove through Compton and than the city of south gate, pretty much the heart of south central, and I saw some huge redevelopments going on in parts of those cities. and not to mention that Hollywood park is being torn down in Inglewood.... yes it was a landmark but what's replacing it will surely help Inglewood in the long run.



Yes this particular thread says L.A. Metro and I agree that most of the updates are geared towards developments stretching from the 110 to santa monica but to post EVERY development in the L.A. metro would take atleast 20 of the first pages of this thread alone. So you crying that L.A isn't growing and that its riddled with problems.....well maybe you should get out more. its only looking bright to me compared to 10 years ago. and the 90's... yeah.. we are doing just fine. we ALL know the problems of L.A....... we live here and see it everyday..... we don't need a few people on here to point them out randomly every time they log on like we forgot what they just posted yesterday? relax. :haha:

BrandonJXN
Jan 11, 2014, 10:42 PM
Paragraphs are sorely needed in the previous post.

Valyrian Steel
Jan 11, 2014, 10:57 PM
No offense but when I see a post like #4083, I think TL;DR.

caligrad
Jan 11, 2014, 11:56 PM
Paragraphs are sorely needed in the previous post.

Sorry about that. im still a bit new this forum, trying to figure out how to separate it without it looking weird. Eclipse, your missing out on good convo bud HAHA but I didn't take offense. your right. when I see long ones like that, I tend to skip over them too. Just happens when you have a lot to say, :cheers:

Munchitup
Jan 13, 2014, 8:45 PM
I wish something would be proposed for that strip mall on cahuenga and Selma.

I disagree, I think that strip mall is actually not too bad. There are so many more lots throughout Hollywood that should be tackled. For instance, the parking lot that is directly behind it at Ivar / Selma that serves Space 15 Twenty is a primo place for one of those 7-story mixed users.

If anything, I'd love to see the little parking lot of that strip mall converted into a pocket park with outdoor seating for the 4-5 restaurants. Similar examples are this old strip mall on Melrose (http://goo.gl/maps/DUJta) or here in Pasadena (http://goo.gl/maps/NsoO1).

I am unsure if those lots were ever actually strip malls, but I think something like this could be adapted for that Selma / Cahuenga lot (though there are probably battles on multiple fronts to remove those 20-30 parking spots for sure).

Muji
Jan 14, 2014, 12:20 AM
I passed by the new Line Hotel at Wilshire and Normandie a few days ago and thought I'd share two pictures. Here is the hotel and its driveway from across Wilshire Blvd:

http://urbandiachrony.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/img_2267-e1389658159847.jpg

I'm very happy that they've placed planters along the sidewalk, and that they are covering up some of the building's blank walls with plants.
http://urbandiachrony.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/img_2266-e1389658152910.jpg

blackcat23
Jan 14, 2014, 2:38 PM
Huge improvements considering how bland that hotel was before. The blank wall facing the intersection isn't great, but there's not much you can do to fix that. The ivy will do a nice job of obscuring it, at least.

Access Culver City

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rEX-3xqtgPA/UtDj4ctmSzI/AAAAAAAAB2I/tC_DVsskE3o/s900/IMG_0605.JPG
http://buildinglosangeles.blogspot.com/2014/01/hard-at-work-on-access-culver-city.html#more

202_Cyclist
Jan 14, 2014, 7:48 PM
Admittedly this is OC, not LA, but it looks like construction equipment is on-site at One Broadway in Santa Ana. This will be a 37-story condo development in Santa Ana. I think it will be the tallest residential building in Orange County.

Here is a link for the building: http://www.onebroadwayplaza.com/. There is a webcam on the website with a photo of the construction equipment.

WonderlandPark
Jan 14, 2014, 8:11 PM
One Broadway is office, actually. The webcam says coming soon, I hope this is finally getting started.

202_Cyclist
Jan 14, 2014, 8:18 PM
One Broadway is office, actually. The webcam says coming soon, I hope this is finally getting started.

My mistake regarding office vs. residential.

Although there is no webcam yet, there is a photo on the website showing drilling equipment and other construction equipment on site.

blackcat23
Jan 14, 2014, 8:34 PM
That webcam image for One Broadway Plaza has been unchanged for at least one year. I don't think it's going to happen.

LA21st
Jan 14, 2014, 11:13 PM
Culver City has so much potential. There's a nice downtown area already.

bobbyv
Jan 15, 2014, 12:58 AM
^^^ Speaking of Culver City, any word on the "Grand Staircase" project? Haven't heard much since it got approved.

blackcat23
Jan 16, 2014, 2:10 PM
http://buildinglosangeles.blogspot.com/2014/01/gold-line-adjacent-affordable-housing.html

This is an affordable housing development planned near Indiana Station on the Eastside Gold Line. 49 units, 7,000 sq ft of ground floor retail, 1/2 of units are reserved for formely homeless and/or mentally ill individuals. Completion expected March 2016.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OBRcBHMRSJU/UtdMgB1zK3I/AAAAAAAAB5w/6Tn5XDmivO8/s800/lorenaplaza.jpg

colemonkee
Jan 16, 2014, 3:45 PM
^ That's not half bad. Far better than a lot of the market rate buildings going up around downtown. Do we know who the architect is on this one?

That surface lot to the north looks like a ripe opportunity for another 4-5 story residential building.

brudy
Jan 16, 2014, 5:53 PM
^ That's not half bad. Far better than a lot of the market rate buildings going up around downtown. Do we know who the architect is on this one?

That surface lot to the north looks like a ripe opportunity for another 4-5 story residential building.

It's a little ironic that developments like this and the ones done by Skid Row Housing Trust are at least equal to, if not better looking than a lot of the 7 story market rate structures in downtown. I also think it's great that Metro is taking on some of the housing issues. Somebody has to...

LAsam
Jan 16, 2014, 10:17 PM
Was taking a walk today at lunch around Century City and was pondering what the deal is with the gigantic crater on the northeast corner of Constellation and Avenue of the Stars. Does any know what the story is behind this? It looks as if they dug out the foundation for a building and just gave up on it.

StethJeff
Jan 17, 2014, 4:53 AM
http://buildinglosangeles.blogspot.com/2014/01/gold-line-adjacent-affordable-housing.html

This is an affordable housing development planned near Indiana Station on the Eastside Gold Line. 49 units, 7,000 sq ft of ground floor retail, 1/2 of units are reserved for formely homeless and/or mentally ill individuals. Completion expected March 2016.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OBRcBHMRSJU/UtdMgB1zK3I/AAAAAAAAB5w/6Tn5XDmivO8/s800/lorenaplaza.jpg

It's a little ironic that developments like this and the ones done by Skid Row Housing Trust are at least equal to, if not better looking than a lot of the 7 story market rate structures in downtown. I also think it's great that Metro is taking on some of the housing issues. Somebody has to...

Ha! You absolutely nailed it. We'd be critical of this if it was built in South Park but the fact that it's in the relatively architecturally uninspired Eastside AND caters to the formerly homeless . . . not bad at all. Can't wait to see higher density get built along this and the other light rail lines in the county. Time to spread the DTLA boom distally along the rail lines, especially into the lower income neighborhoods.

blackcat23
Jan 17, 2014, 5:02 AM
Was taking a walk today at lunch around Century City and was pondering what the deal is with the gigantic crater on the northeast corner of Constellation and Avenue of the Stars. Does any know what the story is behind this? It looks as if they dug out the foundation for a building and just gave up on it.

This is supposed to go there:

http://www.centurycitycenter.com/
http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/51675055f92ea118b600cd28/tower.jpg

FEIR was released late last year. Not sure what the timeline is.