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JDRCRASH
Aug 13, 2015, 2:57 AM
Barftastic but much improved for TCA. Good thing it's Monrovia

Yeah, just the best part of Monrovia...

blackcat23
Aug 13, 2015, 2:33 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/mixed-use-development-headed-santa-monica-boulevard

Old West LA "Ghetto Vons," property becoming 166 apartments above a 55,000-square-foot grocery store.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/950w/public/field/image/vons.JPG?itok=Gt1-azEP

SimonLA
Aug 13, 2015, 6:11 PM
Thank you Blackcat for the info. That's good news but as someone who's lived a block from this parcel from seven years, I'll believe it when I see it. Safeway (Vons owner) promised a mixed-use project, then just a new grocery store, then said they ran out of money, then sold the property, now there's someone new; it's been an eyesore for the seven or eight years I've lived there. And the sidewalks are torn up by those trees and the city has done nothing about them, even though there were notices on them for a year.

Meanwhile, the Buerge properties closed and the developers refuse to bulldoze the properties. There are still hundreds of cars on the lots! They're collecting dust and susceptible to theft; it's insane. And up the street, an LA City van plowed into a cute sushi restaurant and over six months later, it's still closed and boarded up.

The state of West L.A. is sad, and while I hope for it to change, I'm very discouraged.

blackcat23
Aug 14, 2015, 2:23 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/fresh-renderings-playa-vista-office-campus

More on the Brickyard development currently under construction in Playa Vista (Tishman Speyer, Michael Maltzan Architecture, Gensler). 425,000 square feet of office space, 8,000 square feet of ground-floor retail. Building will be clad with "white-glazed thin brick exteriors with patterned punch windows."

Expected delivery in late 2016.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/950w/public/field/image/brickyard.jpg?itok=owMTN8V3

timpdx
Aug 14, 2015, 2:57 PM
Whew, its not going to be white stucco...Very nice

Illithid Dude
Aug 14, 2015, 6:51 PM
this building has become one of the nicest buildings going up in the LA area, despite being built in such an unfortunate location. interested to see the finished product.

Illithid Dude
Aug 15, 2015, 3:45 AM
Cladding going up at Sunset and La Brea. Will post a picture later.

caligrad
Aug 15, 2015, 5:33 PM
In other news. "The Current" in Long Beach seems to be almost topped out. I thought it would have somewhat of a bigger impact on the skyline especially with its location with no towers on its northern side but the taller towers on its southern end are overshadowing it when looking at downtown long beach from a distance. I HOPE that its much taller sibling is still in the works. Its suppose to break ground mid next year if I remember correctly, at nearly double the height.

blackcat23
Aug 18, 2015, 2:33 PM
In other news. "The Current" in Long Beach seems to be almost topped out. I thought it would have somewhat of a bigger impact on the skyline especially with its location with no towers on its northern side but the taller towers on its southern end are overshadowing it when looking at downtown long beach from a distance. I HOPE that its much taller sibling is still in the works. Its suppose to break ground mid next year if I remember correctly, at nearly double the height.

http://urbanize.la/post/long-beach-apartment-tower-takes-shape

Speaking of which...

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140wb/public/field/image/20150816_114302_0.jpg?itok=99BOO0Np

blackcat23
Aug 19, 2015, 2:34 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/los-angeles-county-proposes-koreatown-developments

LA County has issued a RFP to redevelop its aging properties on Vermont Avenue between 4th and 6th Streets.

Two high-rise buildings could potentially be part of the project. Should know more about what's coming by January of next year.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/vermont7.jpg?itok=e-pCWD2j

King Kill 'em
Aug 19, 2015, 10:50 PM
The design of those buildings would be a 7/10 but that drive way at the front and massive entrance to the garage are just awful.

Illithid Dude
Aug 20, 2015, 3:54 AM
The design of those buildings would be a 7/10 but that drive way at the front and massive entrance to the garage are just awful.

It's not the final design. I don't think they even have a final architect yet.

hughfb3
Aug 20, 2015, 8:35 PM
Looks like the anti density crowd is back in action with the Hollywood Palladium towers. See curbedla. I just want to get my Hollywood Target!!

112597jorge
Aug 20, 2015, 8:50 PM
Looks like the anti density crowd is back in action with the Hollywood Palladium towers. See curbedla. I just want to get my Hollywood Target!!

And one of the ones bitching it's too dense and big is developer Kilroy who owns Columbua square which is a bigger project, it's bullshit that they are scared of a bit of competition, cuz they're excuse for halting the palladium towers is complete BS. AIDS Foundation too, they are headquartered in Americas second largest city, development and urbanity is something they must cope with...

a lot of bullshit

bighomey3000
Aug 20, 2015, 8:54 PM
And one of the ones bitching it's too dense and big is developer Kilroy who owns Columbua square which is a bigger project, it's bullshit that they are scared of a bit of competition, cuz they're excuse for halting the palladium towers is complete BS. AIDS Foundation too, they are headquartered in Americas second largest city, development and urbanity is something they must cope with...

a lot of bullshit

AIDS Foundation is fighting this?? On what grounds? What a great use of limited resources! :(

LosAngelesSportsFan
Aug 20, 2015, 8:56 PM
Its really a big bunch of dog shit... How can this be the normal process? This is in the middle of Hollywood, on Sunset, next to a similarly tall building, 2 blocks from a very busy metro station. If not here, then were damn it? These fuck faces that think we live in mayberry need to get the hell out or die off. Enough of their old ways

King Kill 'em
Aug 20, 2015, 9:32 PM
We really should stage a pro density protest. Where we'd be protesting the protesting of these dipshit NIMBYS

RaymondChandlerLives
Aug 20, 2015, 10:32 PM
We really should stage a pro density protest. Where we'd be protesting the protesting of these dipshit NIMBYS

Count me in.

King Kill 'em
Aug 20, 2015, 10:56 PM
http://youtu.be/43Egm0j_p1A

SimonLA
Aug 21, 2015, 5:14 AM
Any retail portion of the Century City mall expansion is now on hold. The mayor was part of a BS PR event today where they touted the enlarged mall's proximity to the subway--though it's coming with 4700 parking spots. More crap for people to buy but zero housing. Gross. http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/la-fi-century-city-mall-20150821-story.html

http://www.trbimg.com/img-55d688cd/turbine/la-fi-century-city-mall-20150821-pictures-001/1300/1300x731

Jun
Aug 21, 2015, 7:13 AM
I like how the road is made out of granite in that render

SimonLA
Aug 21, 2015, 3:23 PM
Yeah, well if there's any positive, I guess the pedestrian experience on Santa Monica Boulevard is improved with the renovation.

Munchitup
Aug 21, 2015, 6:45 PM
Looks like the anti density crowd is back in action with the Hollywood Palladium towers. See curbedla. I just want to get my Hollywood Target!!

I will say that they have a legitimate gripe about the parking garage. A 10 story parking garage (14 technically but 4 are below grade)!??!?!?!?!?! That certainly is out of character with the neighborhood.

timpdx
Aug 21, 2015, 7:35 PM
Any retail portion of the Century City mall expansion is now on hold. The mayor was part of a.....

Its the RESIDENTIAL component that is on hold, they are going ahead with the whole thing minus the 10 residentail units. (it was some stupid small number like 10 or 20 units)

SimonLA
Aug 21, 2015, 9:38 PM
Its the RESIDENTIAL component that is on hold, they are going ahead with the whole thing minus the 10 residentail units. (it was some stupid small number like 10 or 20 units)

Sorry, yes, that's what I meant. Definitely don't need more residential during the worst housing crisis in modern L.A. history.

Steve8263
Aug 23, 2015, 8:49 PM
AIDS Foundation is fighting this?? On what grounds? What a great use of limited resources! :(

I can't believe AIDS Healthcare Foundation (AHF) is opposed to this project. Why on earth would this Nonprofit divert critically important funds that should be devoted to AIDS causes instead use them to fight against a residential development?

This is insane and the people responsible should be called out. Maybe a boycott of Out of the Closet stores is in order.

On a separate note, windows are in about 2/3 of the way up at Sunset/ La Cienega West side towers.

StethJeff
Aug 24, 2015, 1:44 AM
I can't believe AIDS Healthcare Foundation (AHF) is opposed to this project. Why on earth would this Nonprofit divert critically important funds that should be devoted to AIDS causes instead use them to fight against a residential development?

This is insane and the people responsible should be called out. Maybe a boycott of Out of the Closet stores is in order.

On a separate note, windows are in about 2/3 of the way up at Sunset/ La Cienega West side towers.

Well they're in the middle of a federal lawsuit alleging Medicare fraud so it sounds like maybe they engage in a lot of extracurricular activity.

blackcat23
Aug 24, 2015, 5:33 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywoods-new-hotel-boom-ny-816023

This is the design for the new Tommie Hotel planned near Sunset/Cahuenga.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/Natalie/Hollywood's_New_Hotel_Boom_2_embed.jpg

brudy
Aug 24, 2015, 6:36 PM
I can't believe AIDS Healthcare Foundation (AHF) is opposed to this project. Why on earth would this Nonprofit divert critically important funds that should be devoted to AIDS causes instead use them to fight against a residential development?

This is insane and the people responsible should be called out. Maybe a boycott of Out of the Closet stores is in order.

On a separate note, windows are in about 2/3 of the way up at Sunset/ La Cienega West side towers.

Perhaps they're opposed because they were promised a big donation from one of the rich neighbors or free help from Mr Slimeball Silverstein.

Illithid Dude
Aug 25, 2015, 8:20 AM
Wonderful design for the hotel. If the materials are good, it will look fantastic.

blackcat23
Aug 25, 2015, 2:19 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/first-component-el-monte-tod-nears-completion

Affordable housing next to the El Monte Bus Station. Four stories, 132 units. First phase of a larger development with 345 market rate units and 25,000 square feet of retail.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140wb/public/field/image/20150823_112246_resized.jpg?itok=923wEIcs

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140wb/public/field/image/20150823_112603_resized.jpg?itok=eOmBd3iw

timpdx
Aug 25, 2015, 2:29 PM
This is obviously a vision project, but interesting. Would be the tower part of the LACMA project. Won't get buit as-is, but hope something as interesting rises there:

http://archinect.com/firms/project/99964/wilshire-tower/135031055

http://cdn.archinect.net/images/615x/90/90nvxu3u970qyrui.jpg

http://cdn.archinect.net/images/615x/r0/r09eulddthp1n1rc.jpg

colemonkee
Aug 25, 2015, 2:36 PM
^ Even if something half as tall gets built, that would be awesome. And it'll be steps from a future Red Line stop, so the density really is merited.

And big ups on the El Monte Bus Stop affordable housing! We just need about 50 more of those throughout LA County.

Steve8263
Aug 25, 2015, 4:05 PM
There's this post from the reopening of the A+D Museum exhibit with some interesting future visions that will never get built, including one for 6030 Wilshire aka the LACMA tower-

http://blog.archpaper.com/2015/08/gimme-shelter-inaugural-ad-museum-exhibition-promises-rethink-l-housing/#.VdyRZ_Q08hU

I really like the MAD cloud corridor project.

112597jorge
Aug 25, 2015, 4:45 PM
This is obviously a vision project, but interesting. Would be the tower part of the LACMA project. Won't get buit as-is, but hope something as interesting rises there:

http://archinect.com/firms/project/99964/wilshire-tower/135031055

http://cdn.archinect.net/images/615x/90/90nvxu3u970qyrui.jpg

http://cdn.archinect.net/images/615x/r0/r09eulddthp1n1rc.jpg

That design is beautiful. I also love the height...

What is the possibility of this getting built, or was is made just for the sakes of vision and being a museum exhibit???

BrianMojo
Aug 25, 2015, 5:54 PM
That design is beautiful. I also love the height...

What is the possibility of this getting built, or was is made just for the sakes of vision and being a museum exhibit???

Looks as if it was just for the exhibit. But the renders from the article (http://archinect.com/firms/project/99964/wilshire-tower/135031055) are beautiful.

http://cdn.archinect.net/images/1200x/h4/h4fegg6ehq9e36tu.jpg

http://cdn.archinect.net/images/1200x/mu/mum5v9sjr8edmaxi.jpg

http://cdn.archinect.net/images/1200x/t6/t69167ob1egc59dr.jpg

http://cdn.archinect.net/images/1200x/j2/j2kfuz1rqa2metgs.jpg

Eightball
Aug 25, 2015, 6:16 PM
^^^ omg I'm in love :slob:

112597jorge
Aug 25, 2015, 7:00 PM
seems like a lot of work and detail just to be an exhibit

LosAngelesSportsFan
Aug 25, 2015, 8:57 PM
Holy shit that would be amazing.

blackcat23
Aug 26, 2015, 5:29 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/new-gehry-partners-design-sunset-strip-project

Frank Gehry's design for 8150 Sunset Boulevard

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/950w/public/field/image/2_0.jpg?itok=4HE7tlUA

Steve8263
Aug 26, 2015, 6:05 PM
Well done on that one Blackcat, project website doesn't even have it yet-
http://8150sunset.com/

I live just above this and will be watching closely to see how the neighborhood Nimbys react to the new plan.

Oops, looks like credit goes to Archrecord.com, but you are killing it regardless.

I see a rather strong resemblance to the oft delayed Grand Ave project, I think this one has a better shot at getting built tho.

http://archrecord.construction.com/news/2015/08/Gehry/1_ss.jpg

LosAngelesSportsFan
Aug 26, 2015, 8:42 PM
Its visually very interesting, but his designs are becoming tired. Its the same stuff over and over again.

Anyways, i hope this gets built and really jump starts a building boom in that area. It looks so worn and ready for change

StethJeff
Aug 27, 2015, 12:19 AM
http://urbanize.la/post/new-gehry-partners-design-sunset-strip-project

Frank Gehry's design for 8150 Sunset Boulevard

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/950w/public/field/image/2_0.jpg?itok=4HE7tlUA

Gee, woulda never guessed :rolleyes:

Couldn't agree more with you LASF.

ByTheBay
Aug 27, 2015, 12:21 AM
I prefer the older design, this one looks just like a mini Grand Ave Project. It would be like déjà vu if both Gehry designs were to push through therefore the "uniqueness" of these designs will start to wear off.

SD_Phil
Aug 27, 2015, 12:58 AM
I'm cool with the design. Barcelona has half a dozen Gaudi buildings and nobody bats an eye. LA would be just fine with 3 Gehrys.

StethJeff
Aug 27, 2015, 2:42 AM
I'm cool with the design. Barcelona has half a dozen Gaudi buildings and nobody bats an eye. LA would be just fine with 3 Gehrys.

I'd be fine with dozens of Gehrys. Gehry Grand Ave, Gehry River, Gehry Sunset Strip, whatever. It just annoys me how little variety there can be among different projects. I see it more as redundancy than a particular style or aesthetic.

hughfb3
Aug 27, 2015, 7:10 AM
Frank Gehry is based in the LA area. IMO, We should have an abundance of what our local architects are putting out. It's what regionalizes a city. Other cities that have Gehry works are merely a planting of LA architecture. Gehry, AC Martin, AECOM, Morphosis, (Gasp!!!) TCA; and countless others based here, these are the defining people shaping our city's identity today. Much like Paris or London of yore had probably the same architects designing their whole city; which is now why we like them so much, this in my opinion is the same thing.

blackcat23
Aug 27, 2015, 2:32 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/one-more-boutique-hotel-hollywood

Boutique hotel planned on Cahuenga Boulevard. 176 rooms, 5,800 square feet of commercial space and a 76-car garage.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/950w/public/field/image/map_1.JPG?itok=6BHlClYY

This is likely the proposed Tommie Hotel.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/950w/public/field/image/tommie.jpg?itok=wHw1v8_m

colemonkee
Aug 27, 2015, 4:39 PM
Which looks about right from the render. The larger structure in the background right is likely the Arclight parking garage, and the smaller structure in the background left is likely Lure. If that is the case, the top 2-3 floors of the hotel will have pretty awesome views in every direction but east towards downtown.

hughfb3
Aug 27, 2015, 5:48 PM
Which looks about right from the render. The larger structure in the background right is likely the Arclight parking garage, and the smaller structure in the background left is likely Lure. If that is the case, the top 2-3 floors of the hotel will have pretty awesome views in every direction but east towards downtown.

Well if it isnt the arclight garage, it will most definitely be blocked by the upcoming 23 story Academy Square project developed by Kilroy breaking groundby the end of the year. BTW has anyone heard anything about that project? Is it still on track to break ground by EOY?

Munchitup
Aug 27, 2015, 9:08 PM
It'll certainly be nice to get some more action headed southwards from Central Hollywood. Right now the foot traffic in the area behind the Arclight garage is usually pretty sparse.

Isn't there supposed to be a short mixed use project on that triangular lot between Cahuenga and Ivar? Maybe I am making that up but I think I remember hearing about something there.

King Kill 'em
Aug 27, 2015, 9:28 PM
Isn't there suppose to be a7 story exclusively for low income people by academy square on the way?

jbermingham123
Aug 28, 2015, 12:08 AM
Frank Gehry is based in the LA area. IMO, We should have an abundance of what our local architects are putting out. It's what regionalizes a city. Other cities that have Gehry works are merely a planting of LA architecture. Gehry, AC Martin, AECOM, Morphosis, (Gasp!!!) TCA; and countless others based here, these are the defining people shaping our city's identity today. Much like Paris or London of yore had probably the same architects designing their whole city; which is now why we like them so much, this in my opinion is the same thing.

This is so true. For the entirety of human history, architecture has been a very diverse and dynamic art. A traveller with an interest in architecture could expect to have their mind blown in every place they visited. Modern architecture firms, however, are inherently very global in the way they operate. Just the name "international style" implies that the style has little to no character; the same building could be built anywhere, and from the 60's up until the '90's-'00's, thats exactly what happened.

The tech boom, however, caused the world to look at everything, including architecture, in a more creative and expressive light, and we're finally beginning to see the results of that today. Looking forward, I expect architecture to continue to innovate, specialize, and hopefully, like you said, re-regionalize to some extent.

ByTheBay
Aug 28, 2015, 1:42 AM
Frank Gehry is based in the LA area. IMO, We should have an abundance of what our local architects are putting out. It's what regionalizes a city. Other cities that have Gehry works are merely a planting of LA architecture. Gehry, AC Martin, AECOM, Morphosis, (Gasp!!!) TCA; and countless others based here, these are the defining people shaping our city's identity today. Much like Paris or London of yore had probably the same architects designing their whole city; which is now why we like them so much, this in my opinion is the same thing.

Had the Walt Disney Concert Hall been built before the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, I think it would've been easier for regular people to equate Gehry's style to LA. The problem is Gehry's style is confined to his firm and not a style that transcends to different local firms towards local projects, so having around 5 Gehry structures throughout the city won't necessarily give people a sense that it's strictly LA in nature because they can be equally found in cities around the world.

I think the closest LA ever got historically to a regional style that people would identify as strictly LA in origin was Googie Architecture. The Theme Building and the Capitol Records building were LA's claim to fame for decades before WDH and drive-in diners and their neon equated to car culture which then equated to LA. Unfortunately, car culture has now proliferated to the point of a stranglehold on our society and LA has been shamed for it, so what's left of the Googie variety has been neglected or diminished.

blackcat23
Aug 28, 2015, 4:37 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/fly-through-hollywoods-academy-square

Fly through video for Kilroy Realty's Academy Square development (280,000 sq. ft. office, retail, 250 apartments or 200 apartments and 100 hotel rooms).

https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/497513137.jpg?mw=800&mh=477

BrandonJXN
Aug 29, 2015, 3:55 PM
Not sure how new this is but I found new renderings of the Palladium towers.

http://www.crescentheights.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/palladium-big-first1.jpg
http://www.crescentheights.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/palladium-big-first1.jpg

http://www.crescentheights.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/palladium2.jpg
http://www.crescentheights.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/palladium2.jpg

hughfb3
Aug 29, 2015, 5:20 PM
Not sure how new this is but I found new renderings of the Palladium towers.

http://www.crescentheights.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/palladium-big-first1.jpg
http://www.crescentheights.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/palladium-big-first1.jpg

http://www.crescentheights.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/palladium2.jpg
http://www.crescentheights.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/palladium2.jpg

Those Palladium Towers look amazing. Im not seeing where this large parking garage is supposed to be that the community is having a fuss over. By the way, lets not forget that 1600 Vine has a massive parking garage within view along Argyle and it still looks okay IMO. This project is IMO the future of Hollywood. It's glitzy, glamorous, and somewhat dense. This seems to be the new height of all proposed buildings in Hollywood; which fits into an updated scale. looks great to me. Not too tall, not short

LosAngelesSportsFan
Aug 29, 2015, 6:26 PM
This really really needs to be built. So awesome. LA Mirada and silverstein need to be exposed for the extortion and fraud that they are committing

colemonkee
Aug 29, 2015, 6:40 PM
Agreed. This is amazing. I'd wager that most of the parking will be underground, built around the theater.

King Kill 'em
Aug 29, 2015, 8:01 PM
Overall I like the new design better but the old went better with the theater. Is this actually considered a new design though because all that's different is the outside casing is white instead of green and its glassier?

retina
Aug 29, 2015, 8:35 PM
Agreed. This is amazing. I'd wager that most of the parking will be underground, built around the theater.

The plans state 4 levels underground and a whopping 10 level above ground. If that is the issue with the plaintiffs then I'm in agreement. But if they are protesting the height of the towers then it's ridiculous.

StethJeff
Aug 30, 2015, 1:17 AM
Those towers are a no brainer from a design, density, and location standpoint. Absolutely love them and wish there were more projects similar to this.

JRinSoCal
Aug 30, 2015, 7:02 PM
So many great things being planned/built around the great city of LA!!

timpdx
Aug 31, 2015, 12:33 AM
Some snapshots from Hollywood today, quickie shots from car on the way thru. Glass on Columbia Square tower is taking its sweet time, although office portion is close-ish to complete

Icon
http://i.imgur.com/9PxfmGJ.jpg



Columbia Sq.
http://i.imgur.com/1PVIuQX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lvsJWLY.jpg

1601 Vine crane up

http://i.imgur.com/13XDGw4.jpg

Steve8263
Aug 31, 2015, 1:09 AM
The plans state 4 levels underground and a whopping 10 level above ground. If that is the issue with the plaintiffs then I'm in agreement. But if they are protesting the height of the towers then it's ridiculous.

Isn't it 10 total floors?- 4 below and 6 above ground? It's still a hell of a lot but better than 10 above.

From the Website FAQ's-

Parking will meet code requirements, and approximately 1,900 parking spaces in both subterranean and structured parking will serve all of the uses on the Project site. The parking structure has been designed to blend seamlessly with the rest of the Project, and will be on the interior of the Project site.

http://www.palladiumresidences.com/faq.html

And a few more renderings here-

http://www.saitowitz.com/work/palladium-residences-hollywood/

http://www.saitowitz.com/media/54e489dc-550d-44b1-98b5-7b5f23c33238/tampa-museum-of-art-by-stanley-saitowitz-natoma-architects-inc-close-640.jpg

http://www.saitowitz.com/media/a089052d-125c-4514-9a87-1681edd1ec61/palladium-by-stanley-saitowitz-natoma-architects-inc-01-640.jpg

StethJeff
Aug 31, 2015, 6:06 AM
I still see way too many surface lots in that last shot.

blackcat23
Aug 31, 2015, 1:57 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/new-hotel-rises-old-town-pasadena

New Residence Inn by Marriott rising in Old Town Pasadena. 144 guest rooms and a market.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140wb/public/field/image/20150829_112253.jpg?itok=95-ZXGpX

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/marriott1.jpg?itok=wO3und1X

Jaycruz
Aug 31, 2015, 6:19 PM
I like the idea of Hollywood becoming its own Downtown/Central location. A Santa Monica or Sunset line linking Hollywood to downtown is needed now. Surprised Metro isn't looking into that more. Hollywood will be really dense really soon. I'm waiting for the day everything on Santa Monica east of La Brea and west of the 101 to be demolished ( just tear down everything) and rebuilt. Warehouses and other empty industrial lots need to go. Drove through the other night and all I could say is

1. Light rail or heavy rail needs to be going down this street pronto and
2. Everything east of La Brea needs to go.

Its weird when driving down Santa Monica from the 101. You drive down thinking its a mess and one of the poorest looking areas in the city and industrial waste land but as soon as you hit La Brea, the entire vibe changes, lots of street activity, pedestrians and a good vibe.

p.s. I REALLY hope the palladium twins get built. That needs to happen. Parking seems a bit excessive but if its masked beautifully which seems to be the case than go for it.

circuitfiend
Aug 31, 2015, 7:42 PM
Its weird when driving down Santa Monica from the 101. You drive down thinking its a mess and one of the poorest looking areas in the city and industrial waste land but as soon as you hit La Brea, the entire vibe changes, lots of street activity, pedestrians and a good vibe.

The reason why it changes is because that's where the city line of WeHo runs. As much as some criticize the development of WeHo, and there are many, it has cleaned up the eastside, which was as neglected & overlooked as LA city proper, since it was an unincorporated area of LA county before cityhood (which I voted for and do not regret one iota). Bring on the Gehry at Crescent Hgts & Sunset, please.

LosAngelesSportsFan
Aug 31, 2015, 8:23 PM
The reason why it changes is because that's where the city line of WeHo runs. As much as some criticize the development of WeHo, and there are many, it has cleaned up the eastside, which was as neglected & overlooked as LA city proper, since it was an unincorporated area of LA county before cityhood (which I voted for and do not regret one iota). Bring on the Gehry at Crescent Hgts & Sunset, please.

Exactly, Usually, its very easy to tell when you go from an independent city into or out of LA city because all the overhead wires are undergrounded, the medians and sidewalks are landscaped and there arent any cheesy signs, trash and graffiti. The city of LA really looks bad on its commercial streets, even when the residential neighborhoods just behind the commercial streets are nice, ie off of Santa Monica, La Cienega, Pico, Olympic, Fig and on and on and on...

King Kill 'em
Aug 31, 2015, 9:28 PM
I like the idea of Hollywood becoming its own Downtown/Central location. A Santa Monica or Sunset line linking Hollywood to downtown is needed now. Surprised Metro isn't looking into that more. Hollywood will be really dense really soon. I'm waiting for the day everything on Santa Monica east of La Brea and west of the 101 to be demolished ( just tear down everything) and rebuilt. Warehouses and other empty industrial lots need to go. Drove through the other night and all I could say is

1. Light rail or heavy rail needs to be going down this street pronto and
2. Everything east of La Brea needs to go.

Its weird when driving down Santa Monica from the 101. You drive down thinking its a mess and one of the poorest looking areas in the city and industrial waste land but as soon as you hit La Brea, the entire vibe changes, lots of street activity, pedestrians and a good vibe.

p.s. I REALLY hope the palladium twins get built. That needs to happen. Parking seems a bit excessive but if its masked beautifully which seems to be the case than go for it.

I know I've posted this fantasy map 3 times before on here but I'm posting it again so you can see my idea for a santa monica blvd line.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zhZG5yd0CGfo.kql8o6lzZu8A

Jaycruz
Aug 31, 2015, 9:51 PM
The reason why it changes is because that's where the city line of WeHo runs. As much as some criticize the development of WeHo, and there are many, it has cleaned up the eastside, which was as neglected & overlooked as LA city proper, since it was an unincorporated area of LA county before cityhood (which I voted for and do not regret one iota). Bring on the Gehry at Crescent Hgts & Sunset, please.

Yeah its ridiculous, I used to always think why were people so critical of the LA city leaders, but when you put in that perspective I see why. They need to be doing more like actually doing their jobs. Rezoning is really needed in that area and the City of LA needs to hold land owners and building management more accountable for the appearances of their buildings. I know I hate the idea of government intervention but these property owners need to start investing in their properties or sale the land and buildings to the highest bidder and let redevelopment age begin.

I know I've posted this fantasy map 3 times before on here but I'm posting it again so you can see my idea for a santa monica blvd line.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zhZG5yd0CGfo.kql8o6lzZu8A

Awesome map. You should be working for metro since they seem to be clueless to what the people of LA actually want.

King Kill 'em
Aug 31, 2015, 10:04 PM
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Awesome map. You should be working for metro since they seem to be clueless to what the people of LA actually want.

Thanks but I'm only 17. Maybe someday though. I want to be an urban planner.

Jaycruz
Aug 31, 2015, 10:11 PM
Thanks but I'm only 17. Maybe someday though. I want to be an urban planner.

Cool. 17 and already making more sense than people more than twice your age :tup:

NSMP
Aug 31, 2015, 11:54 PM
If the San Vicente route ends up getting selected for the crenshaw north extension (and I would put it as the odds-on favorite due to its at-grade potential), that probably kills any direct WeHo to DTLA line for all practical purposes. I think this decision, though it's a ways off, will be very telling as to whether LA has finally gotten serious about transit.

King Kill 'em
Sep 1, 2015, 12:00 AM
If the San Vicente route ends up getting selected for the crenshaw north extension (and I would put it as the odds-on favorite due to its at-grade potential), that probably kills any direct WeHo to DTLA line for all practical purposes. I think this deJewion, though it's a ways off, will be very telling as to whether LA has finally gotten serious about Aryanit.

I wouldn't want to see the crenshaw exstension go down san veciente and let me tell you why. It would be too much of an inconvience for people trying to get from the airport to hollywood or even the valley. Tourists especially go to Hollywood and how great would it be for them to have a line at the airport take them straight there so they could be immedeatly dissapointed that it's nothing like how they imagined it.

As for WeHo, I firmly believe a line going down Santa Monica and Sunset would be better because it would allow the people there to get downtown without switching lines.

LA21st
Sep 1, 2015, 3:35 AM
I like the idea of Hollywood becoming its own Downtown/Central location. A Santa Monica or Sunset line linking Hollywood to downtown is needed now. Surprised Metro isn't looking into that more. Hollywood will be really dense really soon. I'm waiting for the day everything on Santa Monica east of La Brea and west of the 101 to be demolished ( just tear down everything) and rebuilt. Warehouses and other empty industrial lots need to go. Drove through the other night and all I could say is

1. Light rail or heavy rail needs to be going down this street pronto and
2. Everything east of La Brea needs to go.

Its weird when driving down Santa Monica from the 101. You drive down thinking its a mess and one of the poorest looking areas in the city and industrial waste land but as soon as you hit La Brea, the entire vibe changes, lots of street activity, pedestrians and a good vibe.



p.s. I REALLY hope the palladium twins get built. That needs to happen. Parking seems a bit excessive but if its masked beautifully which seems to be the case than go for it.

I believe alot of those crappy buildings on Santa Monica in Hollywood are small production houses and related businesses. I used to hate that stretch too, but helps keep Hollywood in the city.

Jaycruz
Sep 1, 2015, 4:31 AM
I wouldn't want to see the crenshaw exstension go down san veciente and let me tell you why. It would be too much of an inconvience for people trying to get from the airport to hollywood or even the valley. Tourists especially go to Hollywood and how great would it be for them to have a line at the airport take them straight there so they could be immedeatly dissapointed that it's nothing like how they imagined it.

As for WeHo, I firmly believe a line going down Santa Monica and Sunset would be better because it would allow the people there to get downtown without switching lines.

Another thing I would add to your fantasy map would be a street car with the old fashioned red car look going down Hollywood blvd. With Hollywood densifying and that corridor seeing lots a traffic, an old fashioned red car, pure Hollywood nostalgia via "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", would add to the tourism and character to that hood.

Maybe start from Hollywood/highland and continue east to Dodger Stadium and union Station or have it spur through Glendale and empty out in Pasadena. Everyone is so hyped about a "downtown street car loop" but ive always thought that was a horrible idea. Transit in a central downtown needs to be pushed underground or elevated instead of integrated with street traffic.

Jaycruz
Sep 1, 2015, 4:35 AM
I believe alot of those crappy buildings on Santa Monica in Hollywood are small production houses and related businesses. I used to hate that stretch too, but helps keep Hollywood in the city.

I understand. Its just so frustrating when to get to our touristy or "nice areas", people are forced to go through a few city blocks of industrial waste lands or horrible neighborhoods. I think some of LAs rough and tough areas are finally getting some good TLC, especially along the Crenshaw line with all the proposals surrounding it but I think developers need to look into this area specifically and design some new, efficient, modern and fresh creative work spaces/offices that can maybe accommodate 3-4 business on one block instead of being spread out on a couple of blocks all while revitalizing the area with some mixed use developments like you start to see wants you hit the west side of La Brea. Santa Monica Blvd is LAs next possible trendy corridor on its east side but its needs to get cleaned up with some added light rail in the mix.

blackcat23
Sep 1, 2015, 2:58 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/luxury-apartments-open-santa-monica

This is a new high-end apartment complex that just opened in Downtown Santa Monica. 122 units and 4,500 square feet of ground-level commercial space.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/SWAY_0622_36.jpg?itok=VmmXMVVM

colemonkee
Sep 1, 2015, 4:29 PM
Very nice!

SimonLA
Sep 1, 2015, 5:25 PM
Very nice!

Indeed. It took forever to reopen the sidewalks, but thankfully it was worth it. Now, SM needs to demolish that one-story NMS-owned retail building (there's a parking lot adjacent to it) and build another five-story mixed-user. This area is near enough--and far enough from the insanity of the beach/promenade--to be quite desirable.

NSMP
Sep 1, 2015, 6:33 PM
^No kidding. Opening at 45% occupancy with the kind of rents that they're asking indicates (surprise surprise) a much suppressed demand

bzcat
Sep 1, 2015, 7:00 PM
I wouldn't want to see the crenshaw exstension go down san veciente and let me tell you why. It would be too much of an inconvience for people trying to get from the airport to hollywood or even the valley. Tourists especially go to Hollywood and how great would it be for them to have a line at the airport take them straight there so they could be immedeatly dissapointed that it's nothing like how they imagined it.

As for WeHo, I firmly believe a line going down Santa Monica and Sunset would be better because it would allow the people there to get downtown without switching lines.

Well, you should never design a rail line for tourists... that's totally backwards thinking. You build a rail line for residents and the line with the most destinations makes the most sense. San Vicente (or Fairfax) serves more destinations than going straight up La Brea.

Besides, the preliminary study on the northern extension said the running time difference from Mid City to Hollywood via San Vicente or La Brea was likely not that significant as both will have a fair amount of grade separation.

And perhaps 5% of Crenshaw line passengers will want to go directly from LAX to Hollywood. They will put up with a detour if it is still the path of least resistance (which it will be).

Munchitup
Sep 1, 2015, 7:56 PM
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retina
Sep 1, 2015, 9:42 PM
If the San Vicente route ends up getting selected for the crenshaw north extension (and I would put it as the odds-on favorite due to its at-grade potential), that probably kills any direct WeHo to DTLA line for all practical purposes. I think this decision, though it's a ways off, will be very telling as to whether LA has finally gotten serious about transit.

Metro has maintained any northern extension of Crenshaw line will be below grade hence Expo/Crenshaw station in underground.

King Kill 'em
Sep 1, 2015, 10:26 PM
Metro has maintained any northern extension of Crenshaw line will be below grade hence Expo/Crenshaw station in underground.

If the whole thing is underground, a La Brea route would be cheapest.

King Kill 'em
Sep 1, 2015, 10:33 PM
Well, you should never design a rail line for tourists... that's totally backwards thinking. You build a rail line for residents and the line with the most destinations makes the most sense. San Vicente (or Fairfax) serves more destinations than going dirty up La Brea.

Besides, the preliminary study on the northern extension said the running time difference from Mid City to Hollywood via San Vicente or La Brea was likely not that significant as both will have a fair amount of grade separation.

And perhaps 5% of Crenshaw line passengers will want to go directly from LAX to Hollywood. They will put up with a detour if it is still the path of least resistance (which it will be).

If a SV route is chosen it would be a very short sighted decision. It would be great at first but I think the denser that part of town gets, the more people will ride the train leading to it being slower, and leading to it being a pain to get from the valley and hollywood to the airport.

What could be an option which I included on my fantasy map would be a median running line going down san vicente from WeHo to Pico station in downtown. I think it would be fairly cheap to construct such a line or at least cheaper than other projects since those streets are already so wide.

NSMP
Sep 1, 2015, 11:48 PM
Well, you should never design a rail line for tourists... that's totally backwards thinking. You build a rail line for residents and the line with the most destinations makes the most sense. San Vicente (or Fairfax) serves more destinations than going straight up La Brea.

Besides, the preliminary study on the northern extension said the running time difference from Mid City to Hollywood via San Vicente or La Brea was likely not that significant as both will have a fair amount of grade separation.

And perhaps 5% of Crenshaw line passengers will want to go directly from LAX to Hollywood. They will put up with a detour if it is still the path of least resistance (which it will be).

Yeah, we're getting a bit far from reality here. Best case scenarios put transit ridership to/from the airport at ~2%, or, for LAX, around 4,000 passengers daily. That's not an insignificant number, but neither is it enough to justify altering the course of a multibillion dollar investment. Especially when you consider the fact that those 4,000 passengers would then be subdivided by destinations, with many headed to downtown, or the westside or what-have-you.

That being said, I believe that the San Vicente Route is necessarily trying to satisfy two distinct travel patterns and is going to be worse off for it. SMB/Sunset to DTLA and a line up Fairfax would really say to me that we had gotten serious as a city about LRT because those lines would serve dense and growing corridors and provide travel times competitive with the fastest automobile times, rather than the slowest automobile times (like the Expo line does).

NSMP
Sep 1, 2015, 11:54 PM
Metro has maintained any northern extension of Crenshaw line will be below grade hence Expo/Crenshaw station in underground.

Metro maintained that Crenshaw was too narrow north of Expo to accommodate at-grade rail. LA requested that the station be placed below grade so that it wouldn't have to be relocated underground later. The only reason that San Vicente is under consideration is that it could be primarily at grade. The grade separated sections would likely be from Crenshaw to Venice and from SMB east of La Cienega. The San Vicente option is 3 miles longer than the La Brea option and 1.5 longer than Fairfax. There is no way that we would grade separate that the entire distance.

If a SV route is chosen it would be a very short sighted decision. It would be great at first but I think the denser that part of town gets, the more people will ride the train leading to it being slower, and leading to it being a pain to get from the valley and hollywood to the airport.

More people riding the train would not make it slower per se. And again, although metro has branded the Crenshaw line based on its connectivity to LAX, we should not be buying overly into that hype. LAX service is not the primary benefit to this line.

bzcat
Sep 2, 2015, 12:40 AM
Yeah, we're getting a bit far from reality here. Best case scenarios put transit ridership to/from the airport at ~2%, or, for LAX, around 4,000 passengers daily. That's not an insignificant number, but neither is it enough to justify altering the course of a multibillion dollar investment. Especially when you consider the fact that those 4,000 passengers would then be subdivided by destinations, with many headed to downtown, or the westside or what-have-you.

That being said, I believe that the San Vicente Route is necessarily trying to satisfy two distinct travel patterns and is going to be worse off for it. SMB/Sunset to DTLA and a line up Fairfax would really say to me that we had gotten serious as a city about LRT because those lines would serve dense and growing corridors and provide travel times competitive with the fastest automobile times, rather than the slowest automobile times (like the Expo line does).

I happen to agree with you 100% :yes:

I prefer the N-S Fairfax routing for the Northern extension of Crenshaw Line, but that one is also probably the most expensive requiring nearly all underground construction. And we should push for a E-W SMB line in the long run.

But if the Northern Crenshaw extension is a choice is between La Brea and San Vicente (with the assumption that Fairfax is out due to cost and we will not get another mid city N-S line for 30 or more years), I think I would choose San Vicente. The detour doesn't add that much more running time and has bigger ridership potential.

King Kill 'em
Sep 2, 2015, 1:04 AM
I'd be fine with a Fairfax route but not a SV route.

Illithid Dude
Sep 2, 2015, 5:51 AM
I would imagine, if there was ever a mid city subway, it would run down La Cienega so that it could hit Ceder Sinai, which is one of the biggest employment centers in Los Angeles. Don't forget, this line did exist at one point as the Pink Line before being nixed when the Purple Line was finalized, and Metro had it running down Santa Monica Blvd. and through the Beverly Center area. Regardless, it seems silly to me to get so heated about these potential lines when they are literally decades away.

StethJeff
Sep 2, 2015, 7:11 AM
I would imagine, if there was ever a mid city subway, it would run down La Cienega so that it could hit Ceder Sinai, which is one of the biggest employment centers in Los Angeles. Don't forget, this line did exist at one point as the Pink Line before being nixed when the Purple Line was finalized, and Metro had it running down Santa Monica Blvd. and through the Beverly Center area. Regardless, it seems silly to me to get so heated about these potential lines when they are literally decades away.

Decades away and proposed on similar fantasy maps decades ago.

NSMP
Sep 2, 2015, 1:55 PM
I would imagine, if there was ever a mid city subway, it would run down La Cienega so that it could hit Ceder Sinai, which is one of the biggest employment centers in Los Angeles. Don't forget, this line did exist at one point as the Pink Line before being nixed when the Purple Line was finalized, and Metro had it running down Santa Monica Blvd. and through the Beverly Center area. Regardless, it seems silly to me to get so heated about these potential lines when they are literally decades away.

SV hits all the same ridership draws as La Cienega and even some extra ones, and it's less than a half mile longer. La Cienega is probably the least likely route. Point taken about the pink line, but as a HRT branch of the Subway to the Sea, that had a different set of constraints. And ultimately all of these plans are decades away until they get a dedicated funding stream and then before you know it they're under construction.

blackcat23
Sep 2, 2015, 2:34 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/new-east-hollywood-development-revealed

First renderings for the SunWest project, a mixed-use development planned by Reliable Properties at the northwest corner of Sunset Blvd and Western Ave. This is directly across the street from the unifinished Target.

Six stories, 293 residential units, nearly 34,000 square feet of ground-floor commercial space. Architect is Withee Malcolm.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/1_3.JPG?itok=WyE29AmV

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/1509western_0.JPG?itok=CsIbZUjb

NSMP
Sep 2, 2015, 2:51 PM
It takes some chutzpah to fight for a max height increase across the street from that Target. A 75 foot max on sunset is so absurd, though.

King Kill 'em
Sep 3, 2015, 1:24 AM
Max heights most places are absurd.

San Frangelino
Sep 3, 2015, 9:39 PM
West Hollywood Gateway Updates:

The Domain
Santa Monica btwn Detroit and Formosa
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t-srx_0ADUc/Vei8AhuLgNI/AAAAAAAABnw/nxs6uDNkNa4/s1600/IMG_6395.JPG

Old Movietown Plaza
Santa Monica btwn Poinsettia and Fuller
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rXyW9cyV7fw/Vei8HSX9cKI/AAAAAAAABoA/Hp50xpQSSps/s1600/IMG_6397.JPG

La Brea and Willoughby
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6C555FmMXCA/Vei8EuvHk9I/AAAAAAAABn4/XP8aJq2KEIc/s1600/IMG_6390.JPG

Eightball
Sep 3, 2015, 11:58 PM
Excellent update san frangelino!

on another note, the USC Hospital Campus is a bee-hive of activity! I went there today for the few time in 3 weeks and the change was dramatic. I posted pics of this woodframe (appears to be on a concrete base) a few weeks ago. It's added a floors or two since then. Note that the adjacent parking garage is nearly finished as well.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5778/20936672689_1d76675311_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xU6Vnk)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xU6Vnk) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5779/20502372743_4b62e781d8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xeJ28e)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xeJ28e) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/645/20935340910_f70f119fe2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ6tC)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ6tC) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/669/20502366623_2c851f0ae2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xeHZiH)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xeHZiH) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr

there has also been more construction on this neighboring structure. It's unclear to me if that is some sort of covered walkway/transit overhang or a building

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5736/20935334440_b77c088e87_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ4y5)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ4y5) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr

perhaps more importantly this steel framed building has sprung up extremely quickly. i'm taking a guess that they are using that new technology we've heard about (from a bay area company) that lets them frame it out more quickly. or something similar. they framed out a quarter of a floor while i was in the waiting room for 30 mins

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5752/20936662549_9160340443_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xU6Smv)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xU6Smv) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5630/21097238136_7db07288c0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/y9hRT7)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/y9hRT7) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/579/20935556618_2f3d762d9b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xU1cAJ)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xU1cAJ) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr

same building from other areas

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5634/20935339120_2f8e05bd61_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ5WL)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ5WL) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/722/20935562348_68265c89f5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xU1eiw)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xU1eiw) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/681/20935336630_ceb4bfd4ba_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ5cQ)USC Hospital Campus expansion (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ5cQ) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr

for those who haven't been on the hospital campus for a while, this is some of the other parts look. they could improve the pedestrian aspects in several ways but overall pretty nice

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5678/20935323980_c350dc422e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ1rJ)USC Hospital Campus, #la (https://flic.kr/p/xTZ1rJ) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/594/20935320950_c0ce0b6d16_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xTYZxu)USC Hospital Campus, #la (https://flic.kr/p/xTYZxu) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5765/21131169501_6e17776d1c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ychLuD)USC Hospital Campus, #la (https://flic.kr/p/ychLuD) by robb (https://www.flickr.com/photos/73028294@N00/), on Flickr