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Steve8263
Jan 4, 2016, 8:57 PM
Expo Town Center is a near perfect project, trading a car dealership for density and urbanity. Could do without the giant billboard on the side of the office tower though...

It reminds me of the now defunct Bergamont Station/ Papermate project from Hines for some reason. Will be interesting to see if the pitchfork crowd comes out again to try to squash this project. Does AIDS Healthcare Foundation have offices nearby that will be inexplicably impacted? :sly:

King Kill 'em
Jan 4, 2016, 11:01 PM
^speaking of AIDS healthcare foundation, my parents regularly donate old clothes and other stuff to them. I told my mom about how they're trying to block projects in Hollywood and they said they'd ask about it next time they call.

LAX_Alex
Jan 5, 2016, 10:04 AM
3 NFL teams filed for relocation to Los Angeles on Monday. San Diego Chargers, Oakland Raiders and St. Louis Rams. Owners will consider the bids next week.

Eightball
Jan 5, 2016, 1:50 PM
^ Picture that as a 500+ tower in DTLA. :slob:

yeah that could be quite dope!

Steve8263
Jan 5, 2016, 7:56 PM
Some good stuff here from Steinberg architects website-

3033 Wilshire has topped out (18 floors)
https://www.steinberg.us.com/news/3033-wilshire-residential-tower-reaches-vertical-completion/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWcZxzxUwAAU20G.jpg:large

The former Palm Restaurant building on Santa Monica Blvd in WeHo-

https://www.steinberg.us.com/residential/9001-santa-monica-boulevard/


Two interesting projects with "Undisclosed" as location. Pure speculation but they could be for Mid-Wilshire as they are working with a developer there per an earlier Urbanize post (http://urbanize.la/post/stalled-mid-wilshire-towers-getting-active)- The heights of 19 and 15 floors nearly match the floor count mentioned in that link.

http://www.steinberg.us.com/residential/residential-tower/
http://www.steinberg.us.com/residential/urban-tower/

RST500
Jan 5, 2016, 9:52 PM
In Century City is the new Westfield Project shorter or the same a the tower it replaced? Other than the giant hole where the subway stop is planed is there any space left for new highrises.?

King Kill 'em
Jan 5, 2016, 11:38 PM
Other than the giant hole where the subway stop is planed is there any space left for new highrises.?

Yes where all the giant parking garages are. :haha:

losangelesnative
Jan 6, 2016, 12:13 AM
I was just appointed to the PALMS PLUM committee for their neighborhood council, I look forward to giving everyone updates on whats going on in Palms!!

RST500
Jan 6, 2016, 3:17 AM
Yes where all the giant parking garages are. :haha:

I just noticed the giant hole which has been there forever next to the former Century City Hospital was just turned into a parking lot when there are tons of massive parking garages nearby. Also Fox Studios might sell off parcels in the future.

blackcat23
Jan 6, 2016, 3:23 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/more-mixed-use-rises-santa-monica-boulevard

"The Crown," now underway at Santa Monica Boulevard and Kings Road in West Hollywood. 48 apartments, 6,000 square feet of retail from Combined Properties and Koning Eizenberg Architecture.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/kingsroad.jpg?itok=ofQEwsmH

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140wb/public/field/image/20151226_140950.jpg?itok=VFfKVZ3c

San Frangelino
Jan 6, 2016, 3:36 PM
Here's a news tidbit that sort of relates to blackcats23's last post

from wehoville (http://www.wehoville.com/2016/01/05/judge-rejects-la-conservancys-appeal-of-the-melrose-triangle-project/):
Judge Rejects LA Conservancy’s Suit Against the Melrose Triangle Project
article:http://www.wehoville.com/2016/01/05/judge-rejects-la-conservancys-appeal-of-the-melrose-triangle-project/
http://www.wehoville.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Gateway-Night-620x320.jpg

hughfb3
Jan 6, 2016, 4:11 PM
2016 Hollywood seems to be poppin off. In addition to Eastown blvd 6200 breaking ground, The Mole Richardson Art Deco killer lot at La Brea and Willoughby that has been inactive for several months, just received heavy equipment and the earth has been moved. Also on a much smaller scale there seems to be an assemblage of bungalow properties at Willoughby and sycamore that just got green fencing around them. Looks to be these buildings are about to be demolished. Does anyone know what's to go in here? It's probably not big enough to be on anyone's radar; its 2 properties up for demo

losangelesnative
Jan 6, 2016, 6:13 PM
Garcetti nominates new head of planning

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-garcetti-planning-department-20160104-story.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=649324

SimonLA
Jan 6, 2016, 10:03 PM
Two things. One is one of the five planned mixed-users on Santa Monica Blvd. in West L.A. is actually getting going. The old car dealership has been torn down and they're digging the hole (when it's not raining). I believe this one will contain a grocery store below apartments.

http://www.paulrodriguezarchitect.com/images/uploads/scene_6-web.jpg
http://www.paulrodriguezarchitect.com/images/uploads/scene_4-web.jpg

http://urbanize.la/post/west-la-car-dealership-making-way-mixed-user

Secondly. The anti-density ballot initiative is moving forward, thanks to AHF and the bass-ackwards people at LA Weekly. The managing editor is quitting to run the effort!

Illithid Dude
Jan 6, 2016, 10:12 PM
There's an anti-density ballot?

bzcat
Jan 7, 2016, 2:07 AM
I just noticed the giant hole which has been there forever next to the former Century City Hospital was just turned into a parking lot when there are tons of massive parking garages nearby. Also Fox Studios might sell off parcels in the future.

Fox is not selling any land. They are planning a massive building spree on the lot (see blackcat's post a few pages pack).

There are still plenty of land in Century City for future high rises. Lots of short buildings on Century Park East (e.g. the AAA building) and all those garages as someone already mentioned. And Century Plaza Hotel twin towers are about to break ground... hotel is closing in March.

Quixote
Jan 7, 2016, 6:41 AM
Fingers crossed that they actually end up using the materials depicted in those renderings of 11800 Santa Monica Blvd. Architecturally, it's pretty run-of-the-mill.

Bikemike
Jan 7, 2016, 9:36 AM
That shitbox for West LA needs to start from scratch and hire Konig Eizenberg (a Santa Monica firm). It's pretty horrid. In fact most of the new stuff going up West of the 405 is crap.

SimonLA
Jan 7, 2016, 4:48 PM
That shitbox for West LA needs to start from scratch and hire Konig Eizenberg (a Santa Monica firm). It's pretty horrid. In fact most of the new stuff going up West of the 405 is crap.

Yeah, well it used to be a car dealership. So, I guess I'm not crying that it's not an architectural marvel. Now my walk to the grocery store will be a half mile shorter.

hughfb3
Jan 7, 2016, 5:34 PM
So... A new green fence and heavy equipment has arrived on a project at gower just south of Hollywood blvd. anyone know what this is?

timpdx
Jan 7, 2016, 5:48 PM
So... A new green fence and heavy equipment has arrived on a project at gower just south of Hollywood blvd. anyone know what this is?

Its the 2nd part of Blvd 6200 and its going to KILL that SUCKY parking lot!

losangelesnative
Jan 7, 2016, 5:50 PM
http://planning.lacity.org/eir/HollywoodGower/FEIR/FEIR%20Sections/FEIR%20Hollywood%20&%20Gower%20Project.pdf

Looks like its going to be a 20 story tower rising to 270 ft, assuming its the project named "Hollywood and Gower"

losangelesnative
Jan 7, 2016, 5:52 PM
Nevermind to my last post ahah

timpdx
Jan 7, 2016, 5:56 PM
I am thinking of a block west where Blvd 6200 apparently just closed off the parking lot for demo and construction a couple days ago. Hollywood/Gower would be even more fantastic if the tower were also going up at the same time.

This is Hollywood/Gower
from Curbed (way back in 2009, so this may not be the most current rendering):
http://cdn.cstatic.net/cache/gallery/2512/4047944944_8fb04eb32d_o.png

losangelesnative
Jan 7, 2016, 6:07 PM
Oh okay thank you! and yeah too bad they're not going up at the same time

Jun
Jan 7, 2016, 7:26 PM
http://planning.lacity.org/eir/HollywoodGower/FEIR/FEIR%20Sections/FEIR%20Hollywood%20&%20Gower%20Project.pdf

Looks like its going to be a 20 story tower rising to 270 ft, assuming its the project named "Hollywood and Gower"

Pretty sure nimbys killed this one off awhile ago :(

King Kill 'em
Jan 8, 2016, 1:53 AM
There's an anti-density ballot?

If it gets onto the ballot, I'll honestly care more about it being defeated than who becomes president.

The group pushing it is also planning to put up billboards in Hollywood saying "Stop Manhattanwood" When they do I have this crazy idea of how to counter it. Write a brief explanation on a flyer of why these NIMBYs are idiotic and put it up around the area. Might not do much but I want to try and inform the uninformed people in the area so the NIMBYs don't take us down a path that leads to a future in which LA rents are as high as SF rents.

Jaycruz
Jan 8, 2016, 4:20 AM
Yeah tell me about it. I took a trip to Long Beach yesterday, went to the "Outlets at the Pike"....I was severely underwhelmed, especially after I saw pictures of what the original pike used to be. If only I had a time machine. Very poorly designed shopping/entertainment center.

In other news, looks like they are indeed digging down for tower 2 of "The Current Project" or at least they dug up the parking lot and went down a few feet it looks like. The first tower isn't completed yet with its exterior but it looks like it may be a descent looking tower when its done at 18 floors if I counted correctly.

hughfb3
Jan 8, 2016, 6:29 AM
If it gets onto the ballot, I'll honestly care more about it being defeated than who becomes president.

The group pushing it is also planning to put up billboards in Hollywood saying "Stop Manhattanwood" When they do I have this crazy idea of how to counter it. Write a brief explanation on a flyer of why these NIMBYs are idiotic and put it up around the area. Might not do much but I want to try and inform the uninformed people in the area so the NIMBYs don't take us down a path that leads to a future in which LA rents are as high as SF rents.

Another way to fight it would be to put on the billboards

"want to actually afford to live in LA, help keep rents and home prices from rapid sky high prices by supporting more built housing"

"Deal with traffic or live closer to work and have cheaper rent???

"My rent keeps going sky high... What can I do about that??? Vote..."

"Think home prices are expensive now... Wait... Vote To support the mayor build housing and increase the supply"

Can't find an apartment?? Vote so we can build more housing opportunities"

Ask major LA developers to pitch in on the campaign

ChargerCarl
Jan 8, 2016, 5:16 PM
Stop Manhattanwood?

Ugg I hate NIMBYs.

And as if Hollywood becoming more like Manhattan would be a bad thing...

hughfb3
Jan 8, 2016, 8:49 PM
Stop Manhattanwood?

Ugg I hate NIMBYs.

And as if Hollywood becoming more like Manhattan would be a bad thing...

Manhattanwood is a gross exaggeration. It's more like Portlandwood or Vancouverwood

San Frangelino
Jan 8, 2016, 10:04 PM
I just happened to be in the area today. Go Manhattanwood!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_NuTsESAFf8/VpAx8VkswcI/AAAAAAAABpI/hP2U64E6y7Y/s1600/IMG_3874.JPG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ml0iyZicVdk/VpAx8C_DPcI/AAAAAAAABpE/5Mz_EyKyEJw/s1600/IMG_3872.JPG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nBiLbhiRR08/VpAx6MkFmnI/AAAAAAAABo8/OcuVuG-WcIE/s1600/IMG_3866.JPG

caligrad
Jan 8, 2016, 10:18 PM
^^^OH NO WAY ! I had no idea they finally broke ground on that way, where in the hell have I been. Hollywood is easily becoming one of my favorite areas of LA, saying that in the 90s would have easily landed me in a mental hospital for a psych evaluation LOL.

SCREW YOU NIMBYS ! something needs to be done, if that does get enough votes to become a ballot measure, better believe they are going to spend tons of money trying to pass it. Looks like we need to contact some developers to get some support to fight that ballot measure if it makes it that far.

Downtown, Century City, Hollywood, Wilshire corridor, Santa Monica, Long Beach and all other transit hubs need to be exempt from nimby fingers, if you're that loony enough to live in areas of the county that are for sure going to densify and see increased tourism/business/investment, then you need to reevaluate yourself. Move, easy. Cant stop progress because you want LA to stay as it was 60 years ago.

caligrad
Jan 8, 2016, 10:37 PM
I contacted Anderson Pacific, The people behind the Long Beach "Current" project ( also know as The Gateway Project) including a 17 story tower that just topped out and a 35 story tower that has apparently already broken ground.

So they were nice enough to call me back and actually left a voicemail, love them already, And they said as of right now tower 2 ( the 35 story) has already broken ground. They are waiting on a permit and some other things before they move forward apparently, the gist of the voicemail

" Some of our neighbors are concerned about some key elements, "AKA NIMBYS", and we are working diligently to solve any concerns as we go forward, this project has been in the works for over a decade and we look forward to working with the city of Long Beach and the citizens of Long Beach to see the project gets completed"

Generic response but I'm happy. I'm guessing they thought I was an attorney or something since my new number was apparently connected to a law firm in Long Beach a few years ago.

SimonLA
Jan 8, 2016, 10:37 PM
Thank you for pics, San Frangelino. This is HUGE news for Hollywood, as that massive parking lot broke up the energy of Hollywood Blvd.; hopefully we can keep pushing the walkability eastward, since it really picks up at Wilton and goes all the way past Western Avenue. A strange hole that still exists is the parking lot at Hollywood & Vine; a smart developer would plunk a hotel there ASAP.

We do have to worry about the ballot initiative, but what is currently under construction in Hollywood? These are the big projects I could remember/have seen:

-Blvd6200 Phase II
-Vine office building
-SBE/Equinox mixed-user on Vine
-Kimpton Hotel north of Hollywood Blvd.
-Columbia Square
-Dream Hotel
-Office project on Sunset Blvd., adjacent to 101 (Sunset/Bronson?)
-Apartment project on Sunset Blvd., across from massive office development

King Kill 'em
Jan 9, 2016, 2:09 AM
Another way to fight it would be to put on the billboards

"want to actually afford to live in LA, help keep rents and home prices from rapid sky high prices by supporting more built housing"

"Deal with traffic or live closer to work and have cheaper rent???

"My rent keeps going sky high... What can I do about that??? Vote..."

"Think home prices are expensive now... Wait... Vote To support the mayor build housing and increase the supply"

Can't find an apartment?? Vote so we can build more housing opportunities"

Ask major LA developers to pitch in on the campaign

I'd really just like to tag it replacing stop with go. wondering if I could get away with that.

dtla818
Jan 9, 2016, 6:14 AM
Manhattanwood is a gross exaggeration. It's more like Portlandwood or Vancouverwood

I agree, Hollywood is nothing like, never will and never should look like Manhattan. If anything, I would call it "Torontowood." Basically...pockets of high rises, retail and density along transit lines. If done correctly, this should be the future of our city.

ChargerCarl
Jan 9, 2016, 8:37 AM
I'd really just like to tag it replacing stop with go. wondering if I could get away with that.

Secrets safe with me.

saybanana
Jan 10, 2016, 4:38 AM
Some random projects.

Heritage Square Station adjacent. Suppose to be affordable housing vets and some for homeless or maybe homeless vets. I pass it all the time on the Gold Line so fuzzy picture.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1677/23656003154_a9393f047a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/C3pczm)Heritage Square Station homes for Vets and homeless (https://flic.kr/p/C3pczm)

River Park housing complex right next to Taylor Yards. Will be an awesome place when the wetlands are fixed up in the future.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1453/23988366500_7421b58a01_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CxLDBS)River Park Taylor Yard Cypress Park (https://flic.kr/p/CxLDBS)

dktshb
Jan 10, 2016, 6:22 PM
Funny thing about all these NIMBY's in Hollywood is that I actually think it is easier to get around there now then it was when I first moved to the neighborhood in 1997. Back then you had to get in your car and drive to the west side if you wanted to go anywhere adding to the traffic. Since then so many more retail shopping, entertainment and restaurant options have opened up in the neighborhood that you can walk to your destination rather than get in your car and drive. It is the mentality of some people though.... I walked to the gym four blocks from my complex but there were people in that same complex that still got in their car to drive to the same gym. People refuse to get out of their car even when it is the less convenient option to drive and they expect the roads to be wide open and empty. These NIMBY's are not going to be pushing for continued investment in more transit and they want the housing prices to remain high since they tend not to be the renters but the people who own homes in the neighborhoods. They want to continue to see their values climb.

citywatch
Jan 10, 2016, 6:29 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nBiLbhiRR08/VpAx6MkFmnI/AAAAAAAABo8/OcuVuG-WcIE/s1600/IMG_3866.JPG


The elimination of one of the most noticeable, unacceptable gaps on hollywood blvd!!!


https://media.giphy.com/media/srg19CG0cKMuI/giphy.gif



Your pics are most welcomed, san frangelino!

LosAngelesSportsFan
Jan 11, 2016, 12:41 AM
i just hope it looks nothing like the garbage that was the first phase. Really really ugly and bland. Anyone have a rendering of phase 2? regardless, its a very important parking lot / dead zone that is gone

Jun
Jan 11, 2016, 12:48 AM
i just hope it looks nothing like the garbage that was the first phase. Really really ugly and bland. Anyone have a rendering of phase 2? regardless, its a very important parking lot / dead zone that is gone

Pretty sure its going to be a clone of phase 1

King Kill 'em
Jan 11, 2016, 2:09 AM
Funny thing about all these NIMBY's in Hollywood is that I actually think it is easier to get around there now then it was when I first moved to the neighborhood in 1997. Back then you had to get in your car and drive to the west side if you wanted to go anywhere adding to the traffic. Since then so many more retail shopping, entertainment and restaurant options have opened up in the neighborhood that you can walk to your destination rather than get in your car and drive. It is the mentality of some people though.... I walked to the gym four blocks from my complex but there were people in that same complex that still got in their car to drive to the same gym. People refuse to get out of their car even when it is the less convenient option to drive and they expect the roads to be wide open and empty. These NIMBY's are not going to be pushing for continued investment in more transit and they want the housing prices to remain high since they tend not to be the renters but the people who own homes in the neighborhoods. They want to continue to see their values climb.
My parents, who are the same age as you, had similar experiences. They came LA a few years before you did and lived in Los Feliz. My dad worked across from the cineramadome until 2003 and he found it extremely frustrating how there was nowhere to eat around there within walking distance. It wasn't until right after he changed jobs that new restaurants closeby started moving in

blackcat23
Jan 11, 2016, 3:32 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/hollywoods-eastown-gets-sequel

Just adding to the deluge of Blvd 6200 South/Eastown Phase II pictures. Official count on this one is 507 apartments and 60,000 square feet of ground-floor retail and restaurant space.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140wb/public/field/image/20160109_125208.jpg?itok=Mt_Qwh-p

colemonkee
Jan 11, 2016, 3:39 PM
Ugh, that picture just makes LosAngelesSportsFan's words echo truer than ever. The first phase of Blvd 6200 is pure architectural dogshit.

Steve8263
Jan 11, 2016, 3:55 PM
I took a lap around there also yesterday. The Dunkin Donuts in Phase 1 is popular and surprisingly the street interaction and courtyard are decent even tho the upper levels look terrible.

The one project that looks amazing is Colombia Square. The residential tower in particular is spectacular up close and the whole thing should be ready to open any day now.

timpdx
Jan 11, 2016, 4:04 PM
So I take it that there is no activity at Hollywood and Gower, and that report was not correct and it was really 6200 Pt II?

colemonkee
Jan 11, 2016, 4:53 PM
Columbia Square is a breath of fresh air, architecturally. Don't get me wrong about Blvd 6200: it's well-programmed from an urban design standpoint and is welcome as it brings housing and proper street interaction. They could have just done a better job with the aesthetic design and execution. Hell, a squirrel could have done a better job with the aesthetic design and execution.

ByTheBay
Jan 11, 2016, 5:24 PM
Judging by the original renderings of Blvd 6200, I thought they'd at least come out looking something similar to The Huxley or The Dylan on La Brea Ave. The end product however looks absolutely nothing like the renderings. The design is already uninspiring but that dark grey color is just depressing looking and a total eyesore. It's so unfortunate being in such a prime location!

losangelesnative
Jan 11, 2016, 8:29 PM
LA had a record setting 45.5 million tourists last year http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/01/11/record-number-of-tourists-visited-los-angeles-last-year/

Eightball
Jan 11, 2016, 10:57 PM
i posted about numerous ongoing warehouse renovations in Culver City a couple months ago but was hella busy. well, they are nearly finished w/ this one it seems

gfuRi1a-_MM

caligrad
Jan 11, 2016, 10:59 PM
Even though I think the design will sadden us all, at least we will benefit with the death of another one of our most hated parking lots.

I just wish Hollywood (LA) would fix the sidewalks in the area. Was hanging out last night with some friends and noticed some of the stars are cracked and they just simply put plaster cement on some of the stars.

One of Hollywoods, and LAs, biggest tourist draw is the Hollywood walk of fame. They could at least take care of them, and not just the "Famous" ones.

losangelesnative
Jan 11, 2016, 11:08 PM
Interesting paragraph from this Bisnow article of the interview with the Circa developer

"Scott Dobbins: On the development front we are currently under construction, with our partner CityView leading the way, on a 350-unit Koreatown apartment project on Wilshire. We are planning a 650-unit Koreatown high-rise with our partners at Jamison at another site on Wilshire. For our own portfolio we have redevelopments going on, including retail and medical office in Newport Beach and creative office at one of our Marina del Rey properties in Silicon Beach."

Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/los-angeles/news/commercial-real-estate/exclusive-qa-scott-dobbins-reveals-plans-for-circa-54351?utm_source=CopyShare&utm_medium=Browser

Steve8263
Jan 12, 2016, 12:12 AM
"We are planning a 650-unit Koreatown high-rise with our partners at Jamison at another site on Wilshire. "


So here's the list of what Jamison owns on Wilshire-
http://www.jamisonservices.com/property_listing_new.php

Any of these seem logical for a highrise?

BrianMojo
Jan 12, 2016, 2:49 AM
Some good stuff here from Steinberg architects website-

http://www.steinberg.us.com/residential/residential-tower/
http://www.steinberg.us.com/residential/urban-tower/

The "residential tower" was driving me crazy, because I felt like I knew the location. I was right. It's the corner of La Jolla and Wilshire, looking west. A great spot for that tower!

http://www.steinberg.us.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/14053_000_N25_medium.jpg

BrianMojo
Jan 12, 2016, 2:56 AM
Also, the location of the "urban mixed use tower" would appear to be the northeast corner of Wilshire & Crescent Heights Blvd. Again, a great location.

http://www.steinberg.us.com/residential/urban-tower/

http://www.steinberg.us.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WilshireTower2-a.jpg

Quixote
Jan 12, 2016, 4:14 AM
Wish Steinberg was LA developers' go-to architecture firm. I love their stuff.

King Kill 'em
Jan 12, 2016, 4:35 AM
So here's the list of what Jamison owns on Wilshire-
http://www.jamisonservices.com/property_listing_new.php

Any of these seem logical for a highrise?

They certainly seem to own a lot on wilshire. they also own one anti-pedestrian stumpy old bunker hill office building which seems ripe to be redeveloped. Also seems to be pretty empty....

King Kill 'em
Jan 12, 2016, 4:40 AM
Wish Steinberg was LA developers' go-to architecture firm. I love their stuff.

Instead it's Gensler. Which is does good work usually I think, although they've designed some bad stuff too.

colemonkee
Jan 12, 2016, 3:04 PM
Oh wow, I hope those two get off the ground. Not bad designs!

BrandonJXN
Jan 12, 2016, 5:02 PM
http://www.steinberg.us.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/14053_000_N25_medium.jpg

http://www.steinberg.us.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/WilshireTower2-a.jpg

These are very nice. Why can't we get 5 of these in downtown?

mousquet
Jan 12, 2016, 7:20 PM
Lol, crazy how many German luxury sedans they would picture on renderings. That's not exactly patriotic from a US city.
Otherwise, the former looks really attractive.

hughfb3
Jan 13, 2016, 1:15 AM
Tweets are coming out from the NFL meeting the Rams are coming to LA and the inglewood stadium is where it's at. The charger have the option to move in with them. We get a brand new stadium for our future olympics

Wally West
Jan 13, 2016, 1:20 AM
Tweets are coming out from the NFL meeting the Rams are coming to LA and the inglewood stadium is where it's at. The charger have the option to move in with them. We get a brand new stadium for our future olympics

Yep. Rams are confirmed to return to Los Angeles. (http://national.suntimes.com/national-sports/7/72/2428351/report-st-louis-rams-move-los-angeles/) I wonder how this affect the Inglewood area especially considering the stadium is only used ~20 times a year.

King Kill 'em
Jan 13, 2016, 1:54 AM
Does this mean the Carson Plan is dead? Please let it be so.

SLO
Jan 13, 2016, 1:58 AM
Lol, crazy how many German luxury sedans they would picture on renderings. That's not exactly patriotic from a US city.
Otherwise, the former looks really attractive.

West LA is exotic car central. Mercedes/BMW/Audi's are standard fare.

Illithid Dude
Jan 13, 2016, 2:02 AM
Lol, crazy how many German luxury sedans they would picture on renderings. That's not exactly patriotic from a US city.
Otherwise, the former looks really attractive.

Maybe not patriotic, but very accurate. Hell, my family has two german luxury sedans, as you'd say. I see more luxury cars here than any other city I've been to.

Regardless, is there any proof these two designs are happening besides architectural renderings? It's not uncommon for architects to post renderings of projects that have either been cancelled, or that are going ahead with a different architect. I think it's a little premature to act as though these buildings are going to happen, or are even being planed to be constructed.

ChargerCarl
Jan 13, 2016, 2:08 AM
Welcome back NFL.

Wally West
Jan 13, 2016, 2:10 AM
Does this mean the Carson Plan is dead? Please let it be so.

From what I've read, the Carson plan is dead. However, it's likely that the Chargers may join the Rams in Inglewood (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000621645/article/voting-now-rams-likely-to-relocate-to-inglewood-bolts-can-join) since the Raiders have declined to pursue relocation. Since the Carson plan was a joint effort of the Raiders and Chargers, the Inglewood stadium is the only option for the Chargers.

NFL owners in Houston voted 30-2 to ratify the Rams' relocation application for an immediate move to L.A., where the team will eventually begin play at owner Stan Kroenke's proposed stadium site in Inglewood in 2019. It's a seismic decision that returns the highest level of professional football to the country's second-largest media market after a 21-year absence.

The Rams could be joined by the Chargers, who have a one-year option to decide if they want to to relocate and join the Rams in Inglewood. The window creates the possibility -- however slight -- that the Chargers could remain in San Diego. The city is hosting a June vote for $350 million in public funding toward a new facility to replace Qualcomm Stadium. It is possible the Chargers put off a final decision until that vote takes place.


The Raiders -- the third team that had L.A. aspirations -- withdrew their application for relocation on Tuesday and will work with the league toward a stadium solution, most likely in Oakland. If the Chargers do not exercise their option to move to Los Angeles, the Raiders will have a one-year option to join the Rams in Inglewood.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said during a Tuesday night news conference that the league will provide $100 million to both the Chargers and Raiders if they remain in their current home markets.

caligrad
Jan 13, 2016, 2:12 AM
Yep. Rams are confirmed to return to Los Angeles. (http://national.suntimes.com/national-sports/7/72/2428351/report-st-louis-rams-move-los-angeles/) I wonder how this affect the Inglewood area especially considering the stadium is only used ~20 times a year.

Stadiums tend to be used more than that like somebody else stated before. If it were downtown it would be used a whole lot more but since its way in Inglewood, we can expect concerts and other sporting events done here since as of right now they are pushed to the rose bowl and staples center, Event organizers love the staples center but from what I heard its a headache holding events at the rose bowl other than college football.

King Kill 'em
Jan 13, 2016, 2:12 AM
Lol, crazy how many German luxury sedans they would picture on renderings. That's not exactly patriotic from a US city.
Otherwise, the former looks really attractive.

Most Americans don't drive American Cars. Most car people I know don't even like modern American Cars, only classics.

ChargerCarl
Jan 13, 2016, 2:12 AM
Yeah, no way 3 teams get approval to move to LA. My bet is the Chargers end up sharing Inglewood.

caligrad
Jan 13, 2016, 2:17 AM
Does this mean the Carson Plan is dead? Please let it be so.

Yup thank god. That was a bad idea to begin with. No rail service for miles away, at the interchange where 3 major freeways combine, The use of some lengthy tax breaks and other perks. That plan was dead before it even got to the drawing boards. Glad the NFL didn't back that plan.

Now I just wish they would force the Chargers to stay in San Diego and work out some form of deal, which looks to be their plan. Glad the Raiders aren't coming back. They should move to San Antonio or take over in St. Louis.

caligrad
Jan 13, 2016, 2:22 AM
Yeah, no way 3 teams get approval to move to LA. My bet is the Chargers end up sharing Inglewood.

I wish the NFL would force the Chargers to stay in San Diego and work out some form of deal, which looks to be their plan. Glad the Raiders aren't coming back. They should move to San Antonio or take over in St. Louis. No way in hell was LA ever getting 3 teams and I still don't think the LA market can handle 2. Chargers need to stay down south.

ChargerCarl
Jan 13, 2016, 2:42 AM
Now I just wish they would force the Chargers to stay in San Diego and work out some form of deal, which looks to be their plan. Glad the Raiders aren't coming back. They should move to San Antonio or take over in St. Louis.

I'd prefer the Chargers stay in SD (so much history), but I really, really hate seeing cities shell out money for sports subsidies.

King Kill 'em
Jan 13, 2016, 2:44 AM
Chargers will stay in San Diego. It's like the 7th largest city in the country or so. It would be unwise to leave.

caligrad
Jan 13, 2016, 3:04 AM
I'd prefer the Chargers stay in SD (so much history), but I really, really hate seeing cities shell out money for sports subsidies.

Exactly, The Chargers need to stay in San Diego. Sadly, this is the NFLs way of forcing San Diego to build a stadium by giving the Chargers the "Option" of moving to LA within the next 3 years. It wont happen. But in a panic, the city of San Diego will cave in.

Sadly, I foresee the citizens of San Diego receiving a huge bill for a brand new stadium. San Diego offered to build one downtown if I remember correctly, not sure why the Chargers passed that deal up.

Chargers will stay in San Diego. It's like the 7th largest city in the country or so. It would be unwise to leave.

Yup. The NFL is money hungry, they aren't entirely stupid. San Diego is a large Media market and the NFL wont let that mistake happen again. The only reason why the NFL is allowing the Rams to leave St. Louis for LA is because they know the cash flow for their organization is going to increase dramatically, not to mention the super bowls that will be held here.

But. in the long run.... You better believe that the Raiders will pick up and leave Oakland. They are "giving" them a portion of a loan for a stadium. The Raiders will end up in St. Louis or San Antonio so that everyone is happy. 2 cities willing to somewhat help pay for a stadium. The rams just wanted to leave St. louis because they know LA is a hot market right now.

King Kill 'em
Jan 13, 2016, 3:10 AM
xcwJt4bcnXs

Have we all seen this?

caligrad
Jan 13, 2016, 3:14 AM
Interesting vid. A lot of it is true sadly.

SDCAL
Jan 13, 2016, 4:26 AM
I wish the NFL would force the Chargers to stay in San Diego and work out some form of deal, which looks to be their plan. Glad the Raiders aren't coming back. They should move to San Antonio or take over in St. Louis. No way in hell was LA ever getting 3 teams and I still don't think the LA market can handle 2. Chargers need to stay down south.

The mayor (San Diego) has promised any public funds used for a stadium are contingent on a public vote. I don't see voters approving a new stadium for the Chargers in SD, especially after they've campaigned to leave. My guess is they will join the Rams.

King Kill 'em
Jan 13, 2016, 4:55 AM
^^^ I think the link is broken, I'm getting a fuzzy screen.

sorry I always forget the BBCode for youtube is weird

caligrad
Jan 13, 2016, 6:18 AM
The mayor (San Diego) has promised any public funds used for a stadium are contingent on a public vote. I don't see voters approving a new stadium for the Chargers in SD, especially after they've campaigned to leave. My guess is they will join the Rams.

You might be surprised. Watching the news right now and they are going around getting fan reactions from all the cities involved in this mess (LA, SD, Oakland an St. Louis), Of course the St. Louis fans are upset but they recognize they originally stole them from LA to begin with, but the interesting thing was most of the people interviewed in SD said they hope the city and the Chargers come together to make a deal.

There's no way the Chargers will move to LA now. The current owner of the Chargers hated the Inglewood idea and even said today he has no plans on doing business with the Rams owner. The only move he was interested in was the Carson deal with the Raiders. As of now, the Chargers wont leave, I can almost Garuntee that the city of San Diego passes a tax increase for a new stadium. Sad I know but its going to happen.

IF any future move is to be made in the future, the Chargers will look to either St. Louis or San Antonio. If that happens. The Raiders may tap San Diego on the shoulder for something, also unlikely, but San Antonio and St. Louis both may be getting teams soon unless Jerry Brown wants to intervene and step in.

California only needs 3 teams (LA, SD, SF). Somebody has to go.

blackcat23
Jan 13, 2016, 3:33 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/another-mixed-use-complex-headed-warner-center

Not quite as exciting as the Rams returning to LA, but a 12-story office tower and a 275-unit apartment building are proposed for the current site of a nondescript office park in Warner Center.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/variel2.JPG?itok=_6LnltPo

retina
Jan 13, 2016, 4:46 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/another-mixed-use-complex-headed-warner-center

Not quite as exciting as the Rams returning to LA, but a 12-story office tower and a 275-unit apartment building are proposed for the current site of a nondescript office park in Warner Center.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/variel2.JPG?itok=_6LnltPo

Blackcat, I would love to see a write-up from you guys summarizing the potential housing and retail developments at the upcoming Hollywood Park site. Thanks!

colemonkee
Jan 13, 2016, 5:08 PM
^Was just at Warner Center yesterday (and will be there periodically for the foreseeable future as a client of mine is located there), and can attest that there's a loooooong way to go before that area is considered walkable. But glad that the effort and plans are starting to materialize, and that developments are beginning to follow suit.

a9l8e7n
Jan 13, 2016, 5:52 PM
Playa Vista "The Brickyard"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IN3VbjQ3x9dHdRCs7aH7T3QB0W77PZr0fDCk0zdxc6aijkS3ZQ2xbgY_MD-Dq4w4dwGvdjcwKeRylpgOJccbcrv4bhXXc16EIf0g482EHRbO-coqGBurj52IePh_5RBIjAN30Hq8zF-HIIc2o2t8EZscLyXVpm1w_f6PuOd8wj0jMv5eAWqswFDrlD6h8DTM_3gOySxtm_SIRQ5CzBXLJoNwMfBWD9DNnYAZWesl9Q7PkfDLmxtQoF_66E_qvjGvC3RpeP38uGVVSREWc_ZVLk2Imyi3TR7rbGAvP0JITsep-Cq4DFE269h-CCqRHTFW2sZEvhI6xornYB5F6w0RdjJ7X88mu4e6zMDg1WZ8b7rMWKyxbVrhQ_xNVgiGAME7G4eD9IKkGGffjKDA6BImSI4-MfdA1vOcO-wS4Jk-WBtukC6muBJTqiOnqdyeVqwC7EFNNzMMMNylZJaBUcPg0ZzIpHCwkFxvAFN9oPKp4jSjGrJMsDsp41NAWxl6UqcoY_coPoZEGmoR_ecqhyyMFsRh7UNw6pC7W7Js_LVxDvofuIS1s3XTg1KEV81qGiDEnefc=w1051-h595-no

bzcat
Jan 13, 2016, 9:15 PM
The Rams returning is a real game changer for Inglewood.

The massive development planned will now go ahead. They are adding a lot of retail and residential... basically creating a 2nd downtown for Inglewood.

There is a lot of potential upside for Inglewood... it doesn't need gentrification because housing stocks are overall in good shape. Airplane noises are a thing of past due to quieter planes and better sound insulation. Just need hipsters priced out of Hawthorne to move in :D

caligrad
Jan 14, 2016, 1:05 AM
The Rams returning is a real game changer for Inglewood.

The massive development planned will now go ahead. They are adding a lot of retail and residential... basically creating a 2nd downtown for Inglewood.

There is a lot of potential upside for Inglewood... it doesn't need gentrification because housing stocks are overall in good shape. Airplane noises are a thing of past due to quieter planes and better sound insulation. Just need hipsters priced out of Hawthorne to move in :D

HUH? lol where in Inglewood and Hawthorne are you living ? lol what Hipsters in Hawthorne ??? lol

I'm sorry but Both Inglewood and Hawthorne both need some major makeovers, I do business in both, homeless out reach and etc. and I can surely say no matter what the home values are in both city, They are both rundown and need help quick. Gentrifying isn't just based on home values and things like that, but also includes the vast improvement of the area in general where as of right now its full of abandoned buildings, run down buildings, graffiti and etc. And lets not forget that the center of Hawthorne is a mall that has sat abandoned for more than a decade, if not 2 decades.

People sometimes get Lawndale and Torrance city lines mixed with Hawthorne and the same for culver city with Inglewood. Maybe that's the case here? lol because both aren't sitting cute right now. Sorry.

blackcat23
Jan 14, 2016, 2:55 PM
http://urbanize.la/post/koreatown-getting-more-hotel-action

Six-story hotel planned at 6th and Commonwealth in K-Town. 99 guest rooms plus amenity space.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/hotel.JPG?itok=7sKs6Faa

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140wb/public/field/image/20160109_122026.jpg?itok=cK_9t2r1

SimonLA
Jan 14, 2016, 7:32 PM
Re: AIDS Healthcare Fdn's NIMBYism and "misuse" of funds.

http://www.advocate.com/hiv-aids/2016/1/13/ahfs-michael-weinstein-has-new-fight-and-its-not-about-hiv?team=social

ConstructDTLA
Jan 14, 2016, 9:21 PM
Catching up on uploading some old images, these are from 1 month ago.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1490/23754166644_bb040057db_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Cc5jaj)USC Village (https://flic.kr/p/Cc5jaj) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1498/24299861591_213912aaf4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/D2i9fT)USC Village (https://flic.kr/p/D2i9fT) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1658/24356117366_9dda3daedc_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/D7gt93)USC Village (https://flic.kr/p/D7gt93) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1576/24274303412_6754dc6528_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CZ39GC)Dodger Stadium & State Historic Park (https://flic.kr/p/CZ39GC) by Hunter (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunterkerhart/), on Flickr

losangelesnative
Jan 14, 2016, 11:20 PM
http://neuehouse.com/location/los-angeles/

neuehouse opened in Columbia Square

Illithid Dude
Jan 14, 2016, 11:33 PM
http://neuehouse.com/location/los-angeles/

neuehouse opened in Columbia Square

Drove by Columbia Square yesterday. Retail is filling up fast, with most of the Sunset facing spaces filled up. There's even a Sugar Fish in there, which I had no idea was coming.

brudy
Jan 15, 2016, 2:38 AM
In shitastic news, former mayor and living fossil Richard Riordan comes out for the anti-development ballot measure with fellow leeches from the AIDS foundation.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-richard-riordan-endorsement-20160114-story.html

blackcat23
Jan 15, 2016, 3:15 AM
In shitastic news, former mayor and living fossil Richard Riordan comes out for the anti-development ballot measure with fellow leeches from the AIDS foundation.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-richard-riordan-endorsement-20160114-story.html

“If a person moved to the city now and heard Mayor Eric Garcetti talk, they’d assume he’s a member of the Tea Party,” Riordan said in a statement. “He isn’t doing anything for the poor but helping the rich get richer -- through these zoning deals on land development.”

Funny watching Riordan throw shade at Garcetti over this, given that he received similar criticism for the controversial deal which brought about Staples Center.

King Kill 'em
Jan 15, 2016, 3:45 AM
Is the ballot measure confirmed yet? Is there a campaign against it formed? Where can I volunteer to stop this cancerous NIMBYism from creating San Francisco level rents across the whole city?

bzcat
Jan 15, 2016, 11:02 PM
HUH? lol where in Inglewood and Hawthorne are you living ? lol what Hipsters in Hawthorne ??? lol

I'm sorry but Both Inglewood and Hawthorne both need some major makeovers, I do business in both, homeless out reach and etc. and I can surely say no matter what the home values are in both city, They are both rundown and need help quick. Gentrifying isn't just based on home values and things like that, but also includes the vast improvement of the area in general where as of right now its full of abandoned buildings, run down buildings, graffiti and etc. And lets not forget that the center of Hawthorne is a mall that has sat abandoned for more than a decade, if not 2 decades.

People sometimes get Lawndale and Torrance city lines mixed with Hawthorne and the same for culver city with Inglewood. Maybe that's the case here? lol because both aren't sitting cute right now. Sorry.

The last part was a tongue in cheek post :cheers:

caligrad
Jan 16, 2016, 1:18 AM
The last part was a tongue in cheek post :cheers:

HAHA I figured bud. I've just been a bit antsy on these threads lately with another poster or two. sorry about that. :cheers:

Resident
Jan 16, 2016, 7:55 AM
There's no way the Chargers will move to LA now. The current owner of the Chargers hated the Inglewood idea and even said today he has no plans on doing business with the Rams owner. The only move he was interested in was the Carson deal with the Raiders. As of now, the Chargers wont leave, I can almost Garuntee that the city of San Diego passes a tax increase for a new stadium. Sad I know but its going to happen.

IF any future move is to be made in the future, the Chargers will look to either St. Louis or San Antonio. If that happens. The Raiders may tap San Diego on the shoulder for something, also unlikely, but San Antonio and St. Louis both may be getting teams soon unless Jerry Brown wants to intervene and step in.

Completely wrong. The Chargers are leaning towards coming to Inglewood but if not they stay in San Diego for the year and if they don't get a stadium then come to Inglewood. There is no way they leave San Diego for STL or San Antonio. They are better off in their crappy stadium in SD than moving to those cities.

The Raiders will come to LA if the Chargers don't. Otherwise, if the chargers leave I would expect the Raiders to either move in with the 49ers, move to SD, or move to San Aatonio.

This is what almost every sports reporter is reporting.