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Steve8263
Aug 23, 2017, 9:14 PM
Looks like Large Architecture has updated their design for 2900 Wilshire-

http://www.largearch.com/work/2900-wilshire-blvd

http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/2900-Wilshire-AIA-01.jpg


http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/2900-Wilshire-AIA-03.jpg

And also added another interesting Koreatown project-

http://www.largearch.com/work/korean-food-fare

http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/west-elevation-edit_small2.jpg

Quixote
Aug 23, 2017, 10:02 PM
http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/west-elevation-edit_small2.jpg

Yeesh, talk about a waste of space.

colemonkee
Aug 23, 2017, 10:32 PM
^ It's a lot better use of the space than what's there now. Right now it's a retail building with two levels of parking above it and a surface lot surrounding it. This would be adding 170 residential units and a lot of retail onto what is now a glorified strip mall.

kelbeen
Aug 24, 2017, 12:41 AM
If you look into their website, you'll find more updated renderings of their local projects.

Also, it seems as if Palladium Towers have been revised:
http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/HP_02.jpg
http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/HP_05.jpg
http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/HP_041.jpg
http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/HP_01.jpg

And Hancock Place
http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/3875_04.jpg
http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/3875_01.jpg
http://www.largearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/3875_03.jpg

colemonkee
Aug 24, 2017, 1:05 AM
^ I seriously doubt that's a revised design for the Palladium Towers. LARGE still has their losing design for 10000 Santa Monica on their site, which is not what was built. My guess is that this is their losing design for that project as well, which makes sense, as it appears to remove the Palladium itself, which would have had NIMBY's and Preservationists (understandably) sharpening their pitchforks months ago.

IMBY
Aug 24, 2017, 5:28 AM
Put a curve to a building, and some balconies, and I can't stop gawking! Hope they all get built!:tup:

Steve8263
Aug 24, 2017, 1:40 PM
Colemonkee's correct, that's not the chosen design for Palladium. Here's the firm that's handling it instead-

http://www.saitowitz.com/work/palladium-residences-hollywood/

colemonkee
Aug 24, 2017, 3:12 PM
Speaking of redesigns, I drove by the Beverly Center the other evening, and it seems to be moving along. The finishes, however, are pretty godawful. The curved latticework around the parking podium, which I'm sure looked great on paper or in renderings, looks like a cheap wrought-iron grill grate when viewed from some angles, particularly when at the corner of 3rd and La Cienega (arguably the most pedestrian-friendly intersection in the area). It's truly awful. If there were an architectural equivalent of a Razzie, this would be a shoe-in to win. Which is disappointing, because Studio Fuksas usually does pretty outstanding work. This work is pretty terrible.

ocman
Aug 24, 2017, 4:11 PM
https://www.dezeen.com/2017/08/23/herzog-de-meuron-berggruen-institute-mountain-ridge-campus-los-angeles/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/la-et-cm-berggruen-design-herzog-de-meuron-20170823-story.html

Herzog and Meuron's design for the Brueggren Institute near Getty Museum.

Illithid Dude
Aug 24, 2017, 6:10 PM
https://www.dezeen.com/2017/08/23/herzog-de-meuron-berggruen-institute-mountain-ridge-campus-los-angeles/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/la-et-cm-berggruen-design-herzog-de-meuron-20170823-story.html

Herzog and Meuron's design for the Brueggren Institute near Getty Museum.

https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2017/08/berggruen-institute-la-branch-herzog-de-meuron_dezeen_2364_hero-1-1024x576.jpg

https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2017/08/berggruen-institute-la-branch-herzog-de-meuron_dezeen_2364_col_1.jpg

Say what you will about this being isolated on an urban level, this is incredible architecture. Looks like the headquarters for an evil corporation in the 70s.

blackcat23
Aug 24, 2017, 8:40 PM
H.D. Buttercup clears out at 333 La Cienega

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/333lacienega2_1.jpg?itok=2LrR4ABA (https://urbanize.la/post/hd-buttercup-clears-out-333-la-cienega)

colemonkee
Aug 25, 2017, 12:38 AM
The Brueggen Institute looks amazing.

Easy
Aug 25, 2017, 2:02 AM
So the Millenium Towers are under construction? And I reading this right? How did I miss this? Why can't I stop asking questions?

Larger projects, such as the long-stalled Millennium Hollywood, which is now under construction (https://therealdeal.com/la/2017/08/24/luxury-condos-hit-hollywood-amidst-neighborhoods-apartment-boom/)

JerellO
Aug 25, 2017, 5:48 AM
much the same with regards to one moving into LAX flight path, then complaining and filing suit.

Haha thats interesting. Downtown San Diego is literally on the left side of Lindbergh Field's flight path and nobody complains, or if they do it's whatever. If you YouTube "landing in San Diego" you can see an awesome view of downtown. But because of this we have a 500 foot height limit :(


Anyways back to LA, I think the city should reintroduce the search lights around the commercial districts... it's like soooo LA, and it looks awesome

user2468
Aug 25, 2017, 6:21 AM
Quick update on a couple of Koreatown projects, taken today.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4370/36786692725_1f6e500e93_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Y3Hq7R)3640 Wilshire Boulevard #1 - 8/24/2017 (https://flic.kr/p/Y3Hq7R) by Juan Gomez (https://www.flickr.com/photos/142212842@N04/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4371/36739338756_1f922f5965_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XYwHr7)3640 Wilshire Boulevard #2 - 8/24/2017 (https://flic.kr/p/XYwHr7) by Juan Gomez (https://www.flickr.com/photos/142212842@N04/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4390/36739336726_83259b464c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XYwGQ7)3640 Wilshire Boulevard #3 - 8/24/2017 (https://flic.kr/p/XYwGQ7) by Juan Gomez (https://www.flickr.com/photos/142212842@N04/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4407/36616490462_9ebdd962c4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XMF5V5)940 S. Western Avenue - 8/24/2017 (https://flic.kr/p/XMF5V5) by Juan Gomez (https://www.flickr.com/photos/142212842@N04/), on Flickr

Illithid Dude
Aug 25, 2017, 8:39 AM
So the Millenium Towers are under construction? And I reading this right? How did I miss this? Why can't I stop asking questions?

Larger projects, such as the long-stalled Millennium Hollywood, which is now under construction (https://therealdeal.com/la/2017/08/24/luxury-condos-hit-hollywood-amidst-neighborhoods-apartment-boom/)

I'm pretty sure this is a mistake. Curbed just posted today that they had to complete a new EIR. Of course, I would love to be wrong about this. I'll check out the area tomorrow.

Steve8263
Aug 25, 2017, 2:24 PM
Agreed that's a mistake. They might be thinking of Related's 6230 Yucca tower that has topped out instead.

spoonman
Aug 25, 2017, 3:23 PM
https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2017/08/berggruen-institute-la-branch-herzog-de-meuron_dezeen_2364_col_1.jpg

Say what you will about this being isolated on an urban level, this is incredible architecture. Looks like the headquarters for an evil corporation in the 70s.

Wow, this is amazing. Definitely up to the architectural standards of the Getty.

King Kill 'em
Aug 26, 2017, 4:15 AM
Quick update on a couple of Koreatown projects, taken today.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4370/36786692725_1f6e500e93_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Y3Hq7R)3640 Wilshire Boulevard #1 - 8/24/2017 (https://flic.kr/p/Y3Hq7R) by Juan Gomez (https://www.flickr.com/photos/142212842@N04/), on Flickr




https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4407/36616490462_9ebdd962c4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XMF5V5)940 S. Western Avenue - 8/24/2017 (https://flic.kr/p/XMF5V5) by Juan Gomez (https://www.flickr.com/photos/142212842@N04/), on Flickr

Wow! Both of these turned out better than I expected. Especially the second one which looked terrible from the renders

LDVArch
Aug 26, 2017, 8:37 PM
https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2017/08/berggruen-institute-la-branch-herzog-de-meuron_dezeen_2364_col_1.jpg

Brueggren Institute vs. Academy Museum in the Battle of the Spheres...

(Any other LA spheres? How about the Cinerama Dome and Griffith Park Observatory? ...Does the LAX Theme Building count?)

SoCalKid
Aug 27, 2017, 6:25 PM
I was just reading SB 35, Scott Weiner's bill for increasing housing production, and I'm pretty impressed. It allows developers to opt in to streamlined approval for multifamily projects in "urban" zones (as defined by the census) in cities that have fallen behind on housing production (that is perpetually all of the big ones; LA, SF, and SD all built less than 70% of their prescribed amount in the last housing plan). The developments have to conform to objective local rules (as in only things that don't involve opinions), pay prevailing wages, and include 10% affordable housing (not too much of a deterrent in my opinion).

But best of all, this law will BAR local governments from requiring ANY parking in any of these developments that are either: within a half-mile of major public transit, in a historic area, or within one block of car share vehicle. Furthermore, developments that don't match those criteria cannot be required to build more than one parking space per unit. That is HUGE.

As written, that means that most housing developments in Downtown, Hollywood, Koreatown, Downtown Culver, Century City, etc that conform to existing zoning would be able to receive streamlined approval with no parking as long as they pay prevailing wages and include 10% affordable housing. Combined with community plan updates, this could spur a TON of new development. This has already passed the Senate, let's hope it passes the Assembly!!

LosAngelesSportsFan
Aug 27, 2017, 9:19 PM
Wow, that's great news! Thank you for the Summary. Let's hope it passes

caligrad
Aug 28, 2017, 8:49 AM
"The Edition Hotel West Hollywood"

Is that the one on Sunset and Doheny? if so, i drove passed today, its currently on floor 10.

blackcat23
Aug 29, 2017, 4:37 PM
AMPAS Museum

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/AcademyMuseum-Aug%2027%202017.jpg?itok=4Tg0SDpC (https://urbanize.la/post/steel-climbs-academy-museums-iconic-sphere)

caligrad
Sep 3, 2017, 7:14 PM
http://sportsnaut.com/2017/08/la-galaxy-outdraws-chargers-stubhub-center-4k-fans/

http://www.businessinsider.com/chargers-attendance-in-la-low-2017-8

http://www.latimes.com/sports/chargers/la-sp-chargers-tickets-20170814-story.html

As predicted by pretty much everyone with any common sense in the sports world. The Chargers have near zero fan base in LA with more than half of the people showing up to the games being fans of the opposing team. So far with attendance records, the Chargers are being beat by The LA GALAXY SOCCER TEAM !.

If you can barely get 21,000 seats filled at the Stub Hub center, with its capacity of 27,000, What makes you think you can fill 70,200 in the new Inglewood stadium? The Rams are doing better, reaching 50-60k. Not bad for the preseason.

Dean Spanos is an idiot for moving the team here. Wont be long before he begs the NFL for forgiveness and move the team back to San Diego or somewhere else. Doesn't matter how big of a media market LA is at 18+ million people. If advertisers see lackluster attendance for the games, they will pull out.

Eightball
Sep 3, 2017, 11:38 PM
Chargers should've stayed in SD but pre season is so worthless the NFL is trying to cut it down to 2 games

Blesha13
Sep 3, 2017, 11:48 PM
http://sportsnaut.com/2017/08/la-galaxy-outdraws-chargers-stubhub-center-4k-fans/

http://www.businessinsider.com/chargers-attendance-in-la-low-2017-8

http://www.latimes.com/sports/chargers/la-sp-chargers-tickets-20170814-story.html

As predicted by pretty much everyone with any common sense in the sports world. The Chargers have near zero fan base in LA with more than half of the people showing up to the games being fans of the opposing team. So far with attendance records, the Chargers are being beat by The LA GALAXY SOCCER TEAM !.

If you can barely get 21,000 seats filled at the Stub Hub center, with its capacity of 27,000, What makes you think you can fill 70,200 in the new Inglewood stadium? The Rams are doing better, reaching 50-60k. Not bad for the preseason.

Dean Spanos is an idiot for moving the team here. Wont be long before he begs the NFL for forgiveness and move the team back to San Diego or somewhere else. Doesn't matter how big of a media market LA is at 18+ million people. If advertisers see lackluster attendance for the games, they will pull out.

I blame the NFL for awarding the Chargers relocation first and Raiders second. Obviously the league didn't want the Raiders in LA again for the simple fact of trying to avoid the mess that happened in the late 80's/early 90's. Raiders relocation to LA would've made more sense than the Chargers who have near zero fan base as you mentioned.

LosAngelesSportsFan
Sep 4, 2017, 2:57 AM
I'm the last person to defend this stupid move but they'll be just fine. There is nothing more boring than preseason NFL. They have sold out all tickets for the season with the highest ticket prices in the NFL (obviously due to having the smallest stadium capacity). More importantly to their owner, the value of the franchise has increased by 38% in one year and they haven't even done anything here yet (rams value has more than doubled)

WestCoastSupertall
Sep 4, 2017, 8:36 PM
"The Edition Hotel West Hollywood"

Is that the one on Sunset and Doheny? if so, i drove passed today, its currently on floor 10.

Yes the Marriott Edition is at Doheny and Sunset. 3 more floors to go!

ChelseaFC
Sep 4, 2017, 9:12 PM
I'm the last person to defend this stupid move but they'll be just fine. There is nothing more boring than preseason NFL. They have sold out all tickets for the season with the highest ticket prices in the NFL (obviously due to having the smallest stadium capacity). Their low importantly to their owner, the value of the franchise has increased by 38% in one year and they haven't even done anything here yet (rams value has more than doubled)

Sold out mainly due to non-affiliated ticket brokers. You should have seen how many 'fans' attended the new stadium focus groups with the sole purpose of buying tickets for re-sell purposes.

LosAngelesSportsFan
Sep 5, 2017, 3:24 AM
Sold out mainly due to non-affiliated ticket brokers. You should have seen how many 'fans' attended the new stadium focus groups with the sole purpose of buying tickets for re-sell purposes.

Oh I don't doubt that at all

Future_Manifested
Sep 5, 2017, 8:59 AM
http://sportsnaut.com/2017/08/la-galaxy-outdraws-chargers-stubhub-center-4k-fans/

http://www.businessinsider.com/chargers-attendance-in-la-low-2017-8

http://www.latimes.com/sports/chargers/la-sp-chargers-tickets-20170814-story.html

As predicted by pretty much everyone with any common sense in the sports world. The Chargers have near zero fan base in LA with more than half of the people showing up to the games being fans of the opposing team. So far with attendance records, the Chargers are being beat by The LA GALAXY SOCCER TEAM !.

If you can barely get 21,000 seats filled at the Stub Hub center, with its capacity of 27,000, What makes you think you can fill 70,200 in the new Inglewood stadium? The Rams are doing better, reaching 50-60k. Not bad for the preseason.

Dean Spanos is an idiot for moving the team here. Wont be long before he begs the NFL for forgiveness and move the team back to San Diego or somewhere else. Doesn't matter how big of a media market LA is at 18+ million people. If advertisers see lackluster attendance for the games, they will pull out.

The Chargers will be fine! They have a more talented team than the Rams.

BrandonJXN
Sep 5, 2017, 12:11 PM
http://sportsnaut.com/2017/08/la-galaxy-outdraws-chargers-stubhub-center-4k-fans/

http://www.businessinsider.com/chargers-attendance-in-la-low-2017-8

http://www.latimes.com/sports/chargers/la-sp-chargers-tickets-20170814-story.html

As predicted by pretty much everyone with any common sense in the sports world. The Chargers have near zero fan base in LA with more than half of the people showing up to the games being fans of the opposing team. So far with attendance records, the Chargers are being beat by The LA GALAXY SOCCER TEAM !.

If you can barely get 21,000 seats filled at the Stub Hub center, with its capacity of 27,000, What makes you think you can fill 70,200 in the new Inglewood stadium? The Rams are doing better, reaching 50-60k. Not bad for the preseason.

Dean Spanos is an idiot for moving the team here. Wont be long before he begs the NFL for forgiveness and move the team back to San Diego or somewhere else. Doesn't matter how big of a media market LA is at 18+ million people. If advertisers see lackluster attendance for the games, they will pull out.

To be fair, no one really goes to pre season football. Secondly, the Chargers are fully aware that they're not liked in LA.

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caligrad
Sep 5, 2017, 5:44 PM
^^^ Right. Pre-Season is whatever in every ones book. But. That being said. With a stadium the size of stub hub, they should have been able to fill it to capacity at 27,000. All other teams in the NFL, including the rams, are performing in the 45-50+ range for the pre-season so far. Before the Chargers moved, during their preseason they were performing in the 35-45 range. With a stadium of half of that capacity, filling it should have been ridiculously easy, which Dean was hoping for to "prove a point" to San Diego. Well. It backfired.

I'm the last person to defend this stupid move but they'll be just fine. There is nothing more boring than preseason NFL. They have sold out all tickets for the season with the highest ticket prices in the NFL (obviously due to having the smallest stadium capacity). More importantly to their owner, the value of the franchise has increased by 38% in one year and they haven't even done anything here yet (rams value has more than doubled)

Yeah. It was all about the value and money with him. Nothing about the team or the sport. I honestly hope all of this backfires big on him.

The Illusive Man
Sep 5, 2017, 7:02 PM
Preseason is pretty awful. Nobody should be paying those prices to attend games.

I can't really blame Dean for the move though. If he didn't do it, then the Raiders would have and the Chargers would have been screwed for eternity. The Rams and Raiders up north would have been too much for them to overcome. Their small SD fanbase would have taken a huge hit and they'd be more irrelevant than they already were. They'd be competing with the Rams and Raiders in their palace of a stadium from their dump of a stadium.

This was a move for survival. They really had no choice.

The Chargers don't have much of a fanbase in LA but that doesn't mean that can't change in the future. The Clippers also came from SD and look at them now? Very high attendance, strong fanbase, very profitable, highly valuable, and so on. That wasn't the case when they first arrived. The Clippers were also able to do it with the Lakers in town. The Chargers don't really have to worry about that as the Rams are nowhere near what the Lakers are to this city.

spoonman
Sep 5, 2017, 9:45 PM
Preseason is pretty awful. Nobody should be paying those prices to attend games.

I can't really blame Dean for the move though. If he didn't do it, then the Raiders would have and the Chargers would have been screwed for eternity. The Rams and Raiders up north would have been too much for them to overcome. Their small SD fanbase would have taken a huge hit and they'd be more irrelevant than they already were. They'd be competing with the Rams and Raiders in their palace of a stadium from their dump of a stadium.

This was a move for survival. They really had no choice.

The Chargers don't have much of a fanbase in LA but that doesn't mean that can't change in the future. The Clippers also came from SD and look at them now? Very high attendance, strong fanbase, very profitable, highly valuable, and so on. That wasn't the case when they first arrived. The Clippers were also able to do it with the Lakers in town. The Chargers don't really have to worry about that as the Rams are nowhere near what the Lakers are to this city.

Or the Chargers could've stopped pissing on the fans in SD and rebuilt some goodwill. The Chargers had enormous support in SD in the 90's and 00's. Problem is ownership ran the team into the ground. Apparently it is easier for them to move than address the underlying issues. Enjoy your new team, LA. Get used to making excuses for Spanos and Co.

The Illusive Man
Sep 5, 2017, 10:14 PM
Or the Chargers could've stopped pissing on the fans in SD and rebuilt some goodwill. The Chargers had enormous support in SD in the 90's and 00's. Problem is ownership ran the team into the ground. Apparently it is easier for them to move than address the underlying issues. Enjoy your new team, LA. Get used to making excuses for Spanos and Co.

Trust me. I don't feel great about this situation. I really like San Diego and did not want the team to come. I much preferred the Raiders but I understand where Dean was coming from. Would have been very hard to compete against both the Rams and Raiders in SoCal. Very hard.

I'm just saying that attendance its first few games or first season is not an indicator of what may happen in the future. The team can very well grow its fanbase overtime.

Resident
Sep 6, 2017, 9:07 AM
If you can barely get 21,000 seats filled at the Stub Hub center, with its capacity of 27,000, What makes you think you can fill 70,200 in the new Inglewood stadium? The Rams are doing better, reaching 50-60k. Not bad for the preseason.

Dean Spanos is an idiot for moving the team here. Wont be long before he begs the NFL for forgiveness and move the team back to San Diego or somewhere else. Doesn't matter how big of a media market LA is at 18+ million people. If advertisers see lackluster attendance for the games, they will pull out.


This logic F&*(ing kills me.

The Chargers are playing in a 30,000 seat stadium because it is a better experience than the coliseum, it is closer to SD and the OC where their fans are, and they want to differentiate themselves from the Rams.

They sold ~25,000 season tickets. That is the most they could sell in a 30,000 stadium. They are required to withhold some for the other team and NFL officials (about 1,000) and they also withheld some for single game tickets. They could have sold more.

So for a preseason game, they sold all their tickets. Repeat, every ticket was sold. The reason you have 21,000 people show up is because 30% of the season ticket holders don't care to go to a preseason game. That is a good percentage.

The reason other teams can get 45,000 to go to a preseason game is because they have a 70,000 stadium with 35,000 season tickets. They give away the other 25,000 tickets. The Chargers don't have those extra tickets because they only have a 30,000 seat stadium.

The Chargers will be fine and I bet do better than the Rams. No doubt the Raiders would have more fans if they moved back, but the Rams haven't been in LA in my lifetime and the Chargers actually have a good amount of fans in LA.

Just like the Clippers, Kings, Lakers, Dodgers, Galaxy, and LAFC, both the Rams and the Chargers will be fine and get plenty of fans. And with the ticket costs what they are, the Chargers are making ~70% in ticket sales at StubHub what they were making at Qualcomm.

Resident
Sep 6, 2017, 9:15 AM
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Resident
Sep 6, 2017, 9:16 AM
Dean Spanos is an idiot for moving the team here. Wont be long before he begs the NFL for forgiveness and move the team back to San Diego or somewhere else. Doesn't matter how big of a media market LA is at 18+ million people. If advertisers see lackluster attendance for the games, they will pull out.

Yeah, Dean is an idiot for moving his team into what will be the best stadium in the country where he will pay $1 a year. Not to mention the value of his team went from $1.5 billion to $2.3 billion plus. I'm sure he will move back and give up that $800 million of value of his franchise.

Link to youtube video of Inglewood stadium since I don't know how to insert pictures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=B_MsqkGIw8M

The Illusive Man
Sep 6, 2017, 4:53 PM
Yup. This is not a short-term thing. People need to think long-term.

ChargerCarl
Sep 6, 2017, 6:47 PM
I've heard nothing about good things about the smaller stadium.

ChelseaFC
Sep 7, 2017, 4:11 AM
Drove through Old Town Pasadena today and looks like an application is pending for a 3-story mixed use building at 85 W. Green Street. The site is boarded up and has a rendering posted on the fencing.

http://x.lnimg.com/photo/poster_1920/69af1eadedad480c8026ffee51995c8e.jpg

BrandonJXN
Sep 7, 2017, 10:00 AM
I've heard nothing about good things about the smaller stadium.

The argument certainly can be made that the Chargers have one of the best stadiums in the NFL.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHKOWRnUAAABtd9.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHKOWRnUAAABtd9.jpg

blackcat23
Sep 7, 2017, 2:55 PM
Godfrey Hotel under construction in Hollywood

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/950w/public/field/image/godfrey1.jpg?itok=fzfl0iuQ (https://urbanize.la/post/godfrey-hotel-starts-construction-hollywood)

The Illusive Man
Sep 7, 2017, 4:16 PM
The argument certainly can be made that the Chargers have one of the best stadiums in the NFL.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHKOWRnUAAABtd9.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHKOWRnUAAABtd9.jpg

Even though it's smaller, StubHub is a great venue. This may be what that NFL looks into in the future.

mdiederi
Sep 7, 2017, 9:04 PM
Starting to get some height.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIp_a3kVYAAeY4n.jpg
https://twitter.com/newgdbridge/status/903674842100015104

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIgnC0GXYAAg7RS.jpg
https://twitter.com/newgdbridge/status/903014657484566528

colemonkee
Sep 8, 2017, 1:46 PM
Wow, that's gonna be awesome. Are they going to dismantle the old bridge when the new one is complete?

WonderlandPark2
Sep 8, 2017, 2:50 PM
Wow, that's gonna be awesome. Are they going to dismantle the old bridge when the new one is complete?

Yes, one of the main purposes of the new bridge is to gain clearance for bigger ships.

ChelseaFC
Sep 12, 2017, 10:07 PM
Design Commission to Review Design Proposal for Colorado-Hill Hotels on Tuesday (http://www.pasadenanow.com/main/design-commission-to-review-design-proposal-for-colorado-hill-hotels-on-tuesday/#.WbhaZLLfqUm)

http://pasadenanow.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ParcelTopArrows.png

caligrad
Sep 13, 2017, 1:07 AM
This logic F&*(ing kills me.

The Chargers are playing in a 30,000 seat stadium because it is a better experience than the coliseum, it is closer to SD and the OC where their fans are, and they want to differentiate themselves from the Rams.

They sold ~25,000 season tickets. That is the most they could sell in a 30,000 stadium. They are required to withhold some for the other team and NFL officials (about 1,000) and they also withheld some for single game tickets. They could have sold more.

So for a preseason game, they sold all their tickets. Repeat, every ticket was sold. The reason you have 21,000 people show up is because 30% of the season ticket holders don't care to go to a preseason game. That is a good percentage.

The reason other teams can get 45,000 to go to a preseason game is because they have a 70,000 stadium with 35,000 season tickets. They give away the other 25,000 tickets. The Chargers don't have those extra tickets because they only have a 30,000 seat stadium.

The Chargers will be fine and I bet do better than the Rams. No doubt the Raiders would have more fans if they moved back, but the Rams haven't been in LA in my lifetime and the Chargers actually have a good amount of fans in LA.

Just like the Clippers, Kings, Lakers, Dodgers, Galaxy, and LAFC, both the Rams and the Chargers will be fine and get plenty of fans. And with the ticket costs what they are, the Chargers are making ~70% in ticket sales at StubHub what they were making at Qualcomm.

Yeah, Dean is an idiot for moving his team into what will be the best stadium in the country where he will pay $1 a year. Not to mention the value of his team went from $1.5 billion to $2.3 billion plus. I'm sure he will move back and give up that $800 million of value of his franchise.

Link to youtube video of Inglewood stadium since I don't know how to insert pictures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=B_MsqkGIw8M

The Chargers are playing in a 27k stadium because they had no other choice. Couldn't stay in San Diego. The Rose Bowl said NO and the Coliseum is already having scheduling issues and told Dean and the NFL NO. The LA times and other news sources already discussed this time and time again why he's at the stub hub center and not other, bigger, stadiums.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-chargers-move-live-chargers-in-the-stubhub-center-what-s-1484255093-htmlstory.html

If it were possible to squeeze into the Coliseum or Rose Bowl, he would have. When all of this mess was going on, KTLA even reported that he was even considering Dodger Stadium for a short time. Being at the Stub Hub Center was not by choice as you oddly make it sound :uhh:, especially since he ran around LA like a chicken with his head cut off and only considered the Stub Hub center last, all reported by the news stations.

Let me Clarify. I have NOTHING against the Chargers playing at Stub Hub Center. I think Smaller Stadiums are awesome and think the NFL should look at a seating Max of between 30-45 for new stadiums to make it more intimate, which will probably never happen. I actually like the Stub Hub center and have been to a few event there. But. As I said before. I expected it to be packed to the Rim.

Noooow that you have graciously explained why those numbers are the way they are........:haha:....... and news organizations have failed to mention this in their reports. Now all we have to figure out is why are those same numbers starting to dwindle and why more than 50% of the people showing up to the games wearing gear of the opposing team or of teams that aren't even playing :rolleyes:.

Hey. Didn't you say a while back that you had "insider knowledge and sources" that Apple wasn't moving into Tower Theater? Care to make that correction on the DTLA thread and urbanize ? because OBVIOUSLY someone's, lying, wrong or misinformed :cheers::rolleyes:.

caligrad
Sep 13, 2017, 1:10 AM
In OTTTTTHHHHHER NEWS.

I dont know whats going on in Long Beach. But. The Current Project, LBs new Tallest, seemed to have stopped for a second the last time i drove passed, about 4 days ago. Heavy Machinery was gone, Cars were parking on the lot again and fences were down. So. i dont know what happened. My guess is that the nimby idiots that live miles away stormed the town hall meeting to argue about the increased amount of units and lack of an increase of parking stalls.

kolchak
Sep 13, 2017, 1:57 AM
Marriot Edition Sunset Strip today -

http://i67.tinypic.com/1z4aafb.jpg

Resident
Sep 13, 2017, 6:49 AM
The Chargers are playing in a 27k stadium because they had no other choice. Couldn't stay in San Diego. The Rose Bowl said NO and the Coliseum is already having scheduling issues and told Dean and the NFL NO. The LA times and other news sources already discussed this time and time again why he's at the stub hub center and not other, bigger, stadiums.

The bolded part is completely false. The Chargers had the option of going ot the coliseum if they wanted to. They choose not to.


If it were possible to squeeze into the Coliseum or Rose Bowl, he would have. When all of this mess was going on, KTLA even reported that he was even considering Dodger Stadium for a short time. Being at the Stub Hub Center was not by choice as you oddly make it sound :uhh:, especially since he ran around LA like a chicken with his head cut off and only considered the Stub Hub center last, all reported by the news stations.


Yes, it was a choice, between being the third team in the coliseum or being the only team in StubHub. And the entire thing about him running around with his head cut off is bulllllshiiittt. He had StubHub lined up long before the announced move. Thats why the website on day one had all of the specs for Stubhub. Could he have played at Dodger stadium?? I don't know that. But I know for a fact a contract was made that would have allowed him to play in the Coliseum if he wanted to.


Noooow that you have graciously explained why those numbers are the way they are........:haha:....... and news organizations have failed to mention this in their reports. Now all we have to figure out is why are those same numbers starting to dwindle and why more than 50% of the people showing up to the games wearing gear of the opposing team or of teams that aren't even playing :rolleyes:.

I love it how you are making assumtions about things that havn't even happened yet.


Hey. Didn't you say a while back that you had "insider knowledge and sources" that Apple wasn't moving into Tower Theater? Care to make that correction on the DTLA thread and urbanize ? because OBVIOUSLY someone's, lying, wrong or misinformed :cheers::rolleyes:.

Nope. I have made no such claims in any way shape or form about Apple. What I do know is there is no signed contract and it is similar to rumors having "confirmed" that Trader Joes was coming to the Bloc. At that time they were strongly strongly considering it, but they backed out right before signing a contract. So until Apple announces a store, I'm not going to believe anything. It was almost a year ago this rumor first started.

But speaking of past claims, you were the one who claimed that Governor Brown was going to have to step in to be sure that football stays in Southern California. You were also the person who started claiming the lot on Fig had a 750 ft minimum limit.

You tend to have a very inventive imagination when it comes to what is actually happening in the world, as you just demonstrated above. I mean, claiming Dean Spanos would move an organization that gained a Billion Dollars in valuation and is about to be playing in the best stadium in the country for one dollar a year because 70% of the season ticket holders showed up to a PRESEASON game is pretty rich.

The Illusive Man
Sep 13, 2017, 4:27 PM
The Chargers are playing in a 27k stadium because they had no other choice. Couldn't stay in San Diego. The Rose Bowl said NO and the Coliseum is already having scheduling issues and told Dean and the NFL NO. The LA times and other news sources already discussed this time and time again why he's at the stub hub center and not other, bigger, stadiums.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-chargers-move-live-chargers-in-the-stubhub-center-what-s-1484255093-htmlstory.html

If it were possible to squeeze into the Coliseum or Rose Bowl, he would have. When all of this mess was going on, KTLA even reported that he was even considering Dodger Stadium for a short time. Being at the Stub Hub Center was not by choice as you oddly make it sound :uhh:, especially since he ran around LA like a chicken with his head cut off and only considered the Stub Hub center last, all reported by the news stations.

Let me Clarify. I have NOTHING against the Chargers playing at Stub Hub Center. I think Smaller Stadiums are awesome and think the NFL should look at a seating Max of between 30-45 for new stadiums to make it more intimate, which will probably never happen. I actually like the Stub Hub center and have been to a few event there. But. As I said before. I expected it to be packed to the Rim.

Noooow that you have graciously explained why those numbers are the way they are........:haha:....... and news organizations have failed to mention this in their reports. Now all we have to figure out is why are those same numbers starting to dwindle and why more than 50% of the people showing up to the games wearing gear of the opposing team or of teams that aren't even playing :rolleyes:.

Hey. Didn't you say a while back that you had "insider knowledge and sources" that Apple wasn't moving into Tower Theater? Care to make that correction on the DTLA thread and urbanize ? because OBVIOUSLY someone's, lying, wrong or misinformed :cheers::rolleyes:.

Three football teams using the Coliseum? That sounds like a horrible idea.

The Chargers need to earn LA, just like every other sports team in LA had to. Do you think all of the other sports team were beloved immediately? No they weren't. The Clippers had to earn their way in LA and they did. The Chargers need to do the same. They have no real connection to LA.

It's silly to think people should bend over backwards for something they have no connection to. These things take time. They are here now and they need to grow their roots first and establish themselves as an LA team. They don't deserve unconditional love right off the bat.

Opposing fans showing in droves is nothing new to the Chargers. There were many games in San Diego where Charger fans were overwhelmed by opposing fans.

Blesha13
Sep 13, 2017, 5:56 PM
^ Not to mention, Rams also need to earn LA. Yes, I know they've been here for 50 years, but that doesn't make them the real LA team yet, considering we have a new generation fans that didn't grow up with the NFL in the LA market. It'll take time for both Rams and Chargers to get some love.

The Illusive Man
Sep 13, 2017, 6:13 PM
^ Not to mention, Rams also need to earn LA. Yes, I know they've been here for 50 years, but that doesn't make them the real LA team yet, considering we have a new generation fans that didn't grow up with the NFL in the LA market. It'll take time for both Rams and Chargers to get some love.

Yup. They were here for 49 years but there was a significant 21 year absence. They need to make up for lost time and regrow those roots. They haven't earned the right to be as high as the Lakers, Dodgers, USC, UCLA, Kings, and even Clippers in the LA sports heart.

Would you be able to jump right back in with an ex after they've been with another dude? No. It's takes time to rebuild that bond.

caligrad
Sep 14, 2017, 6:21 AM
^^^ Hey. You never know. I've been through my exs more than once HAHA.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-nfl-is-seriously-concerned-with-empty-stadiums/ar-AArTqkb?ocid=spartandhp#image=1

^^^ This is another nice little read about whats going it. It was posted today actually. Its factual. No insider knowledge :haha:

Its specifically focused on the California teams but Specifically The Chargers as the main focus. And as to why each team, even the Niners are struggling to fill the stadium. (Bad Stadium). Rams ( Old Stadium) Chargers. Well. He breaks it down to the core. We're getting out of preseason. Now we're talking about season tickets. Even Brokers are having a hard time reselling Charger tickets. Literally thousands are still for sell on every ticketing website and the games are coming up quick.

I get it. It takes time to build the brand. And a couple of wins under the belt. But.... is Dean willing and able to wait 40 years for that to happen like the Clippers did :haha: and now that their players aren't performing anymore, even they are losing their "Cool" again.

Resident
Sep 14, 2017, 6:59 AM
^^^ Hey. You never know. I've been through my exs more than once HAHA.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-nfl-is-seriously-concerned-with-empty-stadiums/ar-AArTqkb?ocid=spartandhp#image=1

^^^ This is another nice little read about whats going it. It was posted today actually. Its factual. No insider knowledge :haha:


You keep making comments saying Los Angeles doesn't want or like the Chargers, but it has been quite clear that every time you have talked about football you have no idea what you are talking about.

The article above actually proves my point that the Chargers are doing fine. The LA Rams got ~35,000 people to come to their game on Sunday, and those tickets are MUUUUCCCCCHHHHHH cheaper than the Chargers.

The Chargers actually sold almost all of their tickets. The team has about 200 tickets left, and mostly in the worst parts of the most expensive section. There are a lot of resale because the SD season ticket holders got first dibs and purchased them solely to resell them.

The Chargers are only competing with the Rams. The Rams havn't been in So Cal in 23 years and in Los Angeles in 25 years. It's not like the Clippers trying to get a toehold while the Lakers are here. The Chargers will be fine.

Are you going to start claiming the Rams are about to move back to St Louis because they had 35-40,000 people show up to their game?? The Chargers will actually make more in ticket sales than the Rams will with their 27,000 sold tickets.

caligrad
Sep 14, 2017, 8:27 AM
^^ ^ Lol ummm 200 tickets left. on one site. Where there are hundreds of sites all selling hundreds of tickets. It Not always good to skim through. Resident. BikeMike. Edulva. I accept you as being one of the same. HAHAHA and after this wont feed your intent on trying reallllly hard to get me banned haha vindictive much?

.

:haha: I remember your very first post like it was yesterday. Came in, swinging at everyone about facts, speculating, and not posting their sources and that "you have insider knowledge of pretty much everything going on in LA"... I Sat back for a full year quietly and watched how 90% of your "insider knowledge" turn out wrong with no correction from you. And you never. ever. post sources. Odd.

I never made the concrete statement that there was a 750Ft height minimum on fig. I ASKED if there was a 750ft height minimum on fig and I made sure to put it in a form of a question because 1. i didn't know and 2. to avoid listening to a certain...someone....Whine about it, and here we are, they are whining. I asked more than once because no one knew, including yourself since you sat quietly. Go back and check my posts, you will see the question marks clear as day and unedited. someone later quoted the original post that made that statement. And it was NOT me.

Making assumptions about things that haven't happened ? I went to a Chargers preseason game. Bronco jerseys, Raider Jerseys, Cowboy Jerseys, Niner Jerseys and a half empty stadium (Dwindling at the half time) is all that I saw (also reported and in the articles I posted before *sources*).

The Governor comment/question/opinion ? "I'm sure Davis will step in to see if he can make a solid effort to bring a team to LA"? that one?.

Seeing how he was a HUGE cheerleader/supporter of LA getting a team again and cities/county's in the state a the time were handing out tax credits left and right to get stuff done, ( Metropolis, Oceanwide and the WG I believe were all promised Tax credits) I figured he might do something similar. you know. just my opinion/commentary. The same as yours and your sources :haha:.

But why did you take that as a fact based statement when its clearly an opinion/comment? Because it sounds like an opinion to me, you know...." Small talk"... "office/water-cooler buzz" since that's how normal conversation works and how literally everyone else on here talks on these threads. Literally everybody else on here took it as a comment/opinion...except you lol.

The Rams and Chargers sharing the Coliseum.... When they have more than a few of their home games on the same exact day......Not to mention USC playing the day before :koko: Not to mention the Coliseum having to ask USC to renegotiate its lease terms and having to put it to a vote ? and the NFL changing schedules all because of the Chargers and so on and so on. Yeah. The Coliseum was a for sure thing :haha: Dean wanted the Coliseum or Rose Bowl. He didn't get them. Even Ridley Thomas of the Coliseum said he didn't think Dean wanted to go to Stub Hub. Can I use him as my insider knowledge source? HAHAHA

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2016/12/06/san-diego-chargers-coliseum-possible-move/95030052/

ozone
Sep 14, 2017, 10:13 AM
LA is getting two teams just as the NFL popularity is at its lowest point in popularity in decades if not it's history. Still I think there's enough population here to easily support the teams from the get go. I could also be wrong. Btw the catty/bitchy personal attacks against a person's character rather than sticking to debating the issues is tiresome at best. It's also intellectually lazy. A helpful exercise that I'm trying is to write my reply out and then go back and remove all ad hominem content.

BrandonJXN
Sep 14, 2017, 12:46 PM
I know we are veering off topic talking about the Chargers but this is a picture of Levi's Stadium during kick off of the 49ers first home game few days ago.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJY79bRXgAA4U7J.jpg

The Rams, Chargers, (and the Las Vegas Raiders for that fact) will be fine. There's what...20 something million people in SoCal. Surely you can find Rams and Chargers fans in that group. Pro football in LA is still a shaky thing after going through a generation without it so it's going to take some time. But I'm optimistic. The Rams and Chargers are going to be in a state of flux until they move to Inglewood but I think they both will be fine.

ozone
Sep 14, 2017, 6:35 PM
^^^^ dumbest thing the niners did was to move to Santa Clara. At least in terms of filling the seats. Because we all know how much tech geeks are into football. :uhh: A large percentage of their fan base came from the Sacramento area. Now being that much further away, about 2 hours with SJ traffic, I think only the hard core fans care about going to the games.

I agree with you about the viability of the Rams but I'm still skeptical about the Chargers. How many old fans from SD are going to make the 2 hour trip up to LA?

spoonman
Sep 14, 2017, 7:08 PM
I see a lot of people here defending the Chargers and making excuses for their attendance, stadium "choice", etc. As a longtime FORMER Charger fan, I can tell you that those making excuses are deluding yourselves. I should know, I deluded myself and made excuses for this team, it's management, and ownership for years. I guess hindsight really is 20-20. It's not in Spanos' DNA to fix the Chargers, engender support from the fans, or to win at anything in general.

In a way, I'm surprised that so many are giving him a chance and making excuses for Spanos/Chargers. LA is known as a city that does not forgive, forget, or give chances. This seems surprisingly kind, especially towards someone as Magoo-like as Spanos and the Chargers.

Take with this what you want, but consider it a friendly warning from someone who has wasted too much time making excuses for this team. Nothing that happens to the Chargers is by accident. The stadium situation, bad logo, opposing fans, empty seats, angry ex-fans...none of this is by accident. Even the NFL is irritated at Spanos.

blackcat23
Sep 14, 2017, 10:42 PM
750 units + retail in Culver City

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/VIEW%201%20trees%20transparency%20R%26A%20LOGO.jpg?itok=uQxYbqQ6 (https://urbanize.la/post/apartments-and-retail-planned-south-westfield-culver-city)

The Illusive Man
Sep 15, 2017, 5:13 PM
I see a lot of people here defending the Chargers and making excuses for their attendance, stadium "choice", etc. As a longtime FORMER Charger fan, I can tell you that those making excuses are deluding yourselves. I should know, I deluded myself and made excuses for this team, it's management, and ownership for years. I guess hindsight really is 20-20. It's not in Spanos' DNA to fix the Chargers, engender support from the fans, or to win at anything in general.

In a way, I'm surprised that so many are giving him a chance and making excuses for Spanos/Chargers. LA is known as a city that does not forgive, forget, or give chances. This seems surprisingly kind, especially towards someone as Magoo-like as Spanos and the Chargers.

Take with this what you want, but consider it a friendly warning from someone who has wasted too much time making excuses for this team. Nothing that happens to the Chargers is by accident. The stadium situation, bad logo, opposing fans, empty seats, angry ex-fans...none of this is by accident. Even the NFL is irritated at Spanos.

Time will tell but I'm not dismissing the Chargers based on a couple of games or even a few seasons. This is a long-term situation and LA fans will support you as long as you develop a connection to the city. Unlike most cities, LA doesn't flock to you right away, that bond takes time. If even the Clippers and an owner that makes Spanos look amazing (Sterling) can develop a bond with LA and carve out their own successful niche over time, then I'm optimistic the Chargers can do the same if they grow their roots.

LA isn't coming out in full force for a team that still feels like a San Diego team. We have other teams that deserve that love first, but the Chargers have that chance.

Plus, StubHub Center is awesome. Not sure why people keep hating on it. I wish more NFL stadiums were around that size. These huge stadiums with their horrible views make them game pretty boring. Hopefully StubHub Center can become the model going forward.

Bwin517
Sep 15, 2017, 6:12 PM
Guys, I love football as much as the next guy, but can we stick to LA development topics please?

The Illusive Man
Sep 15, 2017, 6:21 PM
Guys, I love football as much as the next guy, but can we stick to LA development topics please?

There's room for both.

BrandonJXN
Sep 15, 2017, 6:42 PM
Guys, I love football as much as the next guy, but can we stick to LA development topics please?

There's room for both. Especially considering that they are building a whole neighborhood in Inglewood which will absolutely effect development in and around that general area. The Clippers are thinking about moving to Inglewood as well.

The Illusive Man
Sep 15, 2017, 6:59 PM
There's room for both. Especially considering that they are building a whole neighborhood in Inglewood which will absolutely effect development in and around that general area. The Clippers are thinking about moving to Inglewood as well.

Yup. It all ties into development of LA. We aren't talking about X's and O's here. The Chargers are new business entity in the region now.

SoCalKid
Sep 18, 2017, 5:10 PM
I was just reading SB 35, Scott Weiner's bill for increasing housing production, and I'm pretty impressed. It allows developers to opt in to streamlined approval for multifamily projects in "urban" zones (as defined by the census) in cities that have fallen behind on housing production (that is perpetually all of the big ones; LA, SF, and SD all built less than 70% of their prescribed amount in the last housing plan). The developments have to conform to objective local rules (as in only things that don't involve opinions), pay prevailing wages, and include 10% affordable housing (not too much of a deterrent in my opinion).

But best of all, this law will BAR local governments from requiring ANY parking in any of these developments that are either: within a half-mile of major public transit, in a historic area, or within one block of car share vehicle. Furthermore, developments that don't match those criteria cannot be required to build more than one parking space per unit. That is HUGE.

As written, that means that most housing developments in Downtown, Hollywood, Koreatown, Downtown Culver, Century City, etc that conform to existing zoning would be able to receive streamlined approval with no parking as long as they pay prevailing wages and include 10% affordable housing. Combined with community plan updates, this could spur a TON of new development. This has already passed the Senate, let's hope it passes the Assembly!!

This bill passed! Hopefully it spurs a lot more housing development

blackcat23
Sep 18, 2017, 6:34 PM
Offices under construction near Expo/Bundy Station

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/1_90.jpg?itok=uvXBn9-b (https://urbanize.la/post/expo-station-offices-rising-west-los-angeles)

blackcat23
Sep 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
New apartments U/C in Pasadena

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/The%20Theo%2C%20Pasadena%2C%20by%20KTGY%20Architecture%20%2B%20Planning.jpg?itok=qrktpQc0 (https://urbanize.la/post/new-apartment-rise-near-old-town-pasadena)



Expo/Sepulveda Cranes

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140wb/public/field/image/20170917_142737.jpg?itok=OKHQs3kr (https://urbanize.la/post/595-unit-expo-line-development-goes-vertical)

Blesha13
Sep 20, 2017, 6:06 AM
I'm all in for the Clippers to relocate to Inglewood, but there will be a conflict between the Forum and the new arena in terms of events. Almost forgot, the new Rams/Chargers stadium will host events too so let's see how that goes for the 3 venues.

Resident
Sep 20, 2017, 7:39 AM
I'm all in for the Clippers to relocate to Inglewood, but there will be a conflict between the Forum and the new arena in terms of events. Almost forgot, the new Rams/Chargers stadium will host events too so let's see how that goes for the 3 venues.

And there is a 6,000 seat venue built into the New Chargers stadium. (the pointy part)

blackcat23
Sep 20, 2017, 9:19 PM
New Century Plaza towers

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140wb/public/field/image/20170917_141939.jpg?itok=zgpKQKCY (https://urbanize.la/post/checking-25-billion-century-plaza-development)

kolchak
Sep 22, 2017, 4:51 AM
Marriot Edition Sunset Boulevard -
http://i64.tinypic.com/35ncz90.jpg

LAsam
Sep 22, 2017, 5:22 PM
^Wow. That building is quite massive in its east-west profile.

blackcat23
Sep 26, 2017, 4:30 PM
Construction starting for 13-story Sunset/Bronson development

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/epic7_0.jpg?itok=tr-dBu8R (https://urbanize.la/post/13-story-office-tower-breaks-ground-hollywood)

hughfb3
Sep 27, 2017, 4:34 AM
Great news about EPIC. This is one project I'm very excited about. Has anyone heard of anything about the Gehry project at Sunset and Credcent Heights lately? What's the status

Illithid Dude
Sep 27, 2017, 6:32 AM
Still waiting on seeing if the bank is going to be historic. I hate to say this but... it's actually a really nice piece of mid century architecture and can easily be converted to cool creative office space. I wouldn't be torn apart if it gets demolished, but it could be nice to see the Gehry building compliment the bank as well.

WonderlandPark2
Sep 27, 2017, 2:56 PM
Aerial shot of Glendale I took monday, look at all that surface parking that has gone bye bye.

https://i.imgur.com/6cFvYeq.jpg

LosAngelesSportsFan
Sep 27, 2017, 8:11 PM
Great shot. One of my grandmas lives just off frame on the bottom right, the other one top center near the freeway, which is also right next to my office.

Glendale has densified tremendously over the last 5 years.

I LOVE L.A.!
Sep 27, 2017, 11:51 PM
Re: Gehry at Sunset & Crescent Heights...

Enough already with the bank, which may be 'historic' but, this is really NIMBY hysterics at play. There is a duplicate of the bank building on Green Street & Delacey in Old Pasadena that has been preserved but no one wants to talk about that because it would not serve their argument to save a twin just to stop a big bold beautiful project - a real game changer for L.A.

ocman
Sep 28, 2017, 3:54 PM
http://lacmaonfire.blogspot.com/2017/09/movie-museum-gets-50m-psycho-typewriter.html

https://la.curbed.com/2017/9/28/16375410/academy-museum-construction-renderings

New overview, clarifications, and renderings for the Academy Award Museums, also a $50M donation from the Sabans. Looks fantastic.

ChelseaFC
Sep 28, 2017, 4:57 PM
All of the Instagram shots.

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/950w/public/field/image/2017_06_05_dome_high%20res.jpg?itok=2zVX8_yi

Illithid Dude
Sep 28, 2017, 6:36 PM
The first renderings of that museum that make me think it might actuallly... look good?

LosAngelesSportsFan
Sep 28, 2017, 6:51 PM
What a refinement. Looks much much better

Muji
Sep 28, 2017, 9:56 PM
While I'm sure the roof terrace will have great views, it is going to be way hot up there!

ocman
Oct 4, 2017, 2:10 PM
LACMA got a $150M donation from David Geffen. Really surprising considering he tends to lean his arts-related philanthropy towards the east coast.

This may or may not be related to news that Lincoln Center, which he gave $100 million to, just recently announce plans to scrap the renovation and try something else. Coincidental none the less.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/03/arts/music/lincoln-center-geffen-hall.html
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/la-et-cm-lacma-david-geffen-20171004-htmlstory.html

Illithid Dude
Oct 4, 2017, 3:56 PM
Kind of a bummer because I still think this idea of a "new" LACMA is horrible and proposed design is horrendously ugly. There is nothing good about this idea. Even the amount of viewable space is decreased. And for what? A ugly black construction of concrete ooze and vanity. I actually love the current LACMA campus. It's full of such wonderful, sometimes weird architecture. The original Pereira design is still a landmark. If LACMA had any dignity, they would fully restore the original design and build a new structure complimentary do that. And it's not like LACMA has a great track record - the new Broad Wing is commonly viewed as one of Renzo Piano's worst buildings. It's not an ugly building per se, but just a generic, bland box. If LACMA is so fucking hell bent on redoing their campus, it would be best to just bite the bullet and find a new architect and a new design, rather than continue forward with the ugly monstrosity they are considering today.

ocman
Oct 4, 2017, 4:46 PM
Interesting to see how LACMA and Lincoln Center are finally playing out. A lot of similarities in this process.

LACMA and Lincoln Center have been struggling to raise money. Before Geffen's contribution to LACMA, both Lincoln Center and LACMA each raised $300M for their $500M and $600M buildings. With 75% of the total raised for LACMA, the questions about whether this is happening or not should finally be laid to rest. It's happening. The 2-3 years of not having a museum is going to be really hard on the city. Lincoln Center decided it wasn't worth it. But if anything, I think it makes more sense for the NY Phil to be out of their home for a few seasons and travel and expand their brand.

ozone
Oct 4, 2017, 5:07 PM
Kind of a bummer because I still think this idea of a "new" LACMA is horrible and proposed design is horrendously ugly. There is nothing good about this idea. Even the amount of viewable space is decreased. And for what? A ugly black construction of concrete ooze and vanity. I actually love the current LACMA campus. It's full of such wonderful, sometimes weird architecture. The original Pereira design is still a landmark. If LACMA had any dignity, they would fully restore the original design and build a new structure complimentary do that. And it's not like LACMA has a great track record - the new Broad Wing is commonly viewed as one of Renzo Piano's worst buildings. It's not an ugly building per se, but just a generic, bland box. If LACMA is so fucking hell bent on redoing their campus, it would be best to just bite the bullet and find a new architect and a new design, rather than continue forward with the ugly monstrosity they are considering today.

The newest renderings by A. P. Zumthor show that the building is no longer black but instead a sandy color. Idk is that better? I'm not sure how I feel about getting rid of the original buildings. I mean that complex design has been pretty compromised already. All I can think about when I see the meandering layout is how tired I'm going to be.

ocman
Oct 4, 2017, 7:30 PM
Right on cue, the NYT wrote a piece that mentions the philanthropic struggles and differences between LA and NYC.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/arts/david-geffen-lincoln-center-new-york.html

LA21st
Oct 4, 2017, 7:57 PM
Did anyone hear about the 20 story student residential tower proposed/planned at Le Conte and Galey in Westwood?

blackcat23
Oct 4, 2017, 9:22 PM
8th/Western

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/1_96.jpg?itok=duaMIf4Y (https://urbanize.la/post/first-look-koreatowns-800-south-western-development)

LA21st
Oct 4, 2017, 9:35 PM
Nice density there for that block! Western needs more of that.

colemonkee
Oct 4, 2017, 10:48 PM
I don't dislike the design, but calling it a "modern abstraction of Art Deco and Streamline Moderne" is a bit of a stretch. Like a dishwasher putting "Hydro-porcelain technician" on his resume.

ocman
Oct 4, 2017, 11:31 PM
I dislike it. It gives the illusion of being urban, but it’s really not much different from the Beverly Center, in that it looks as if neither driver nor pedestrian will have an easy experience getting in and out of that place.

blackcat23
Oct 6, 2017, 4:41 AM
Did anyone hear about the 20 story student residential tower proposed/planned at Le Conte and Galey in Westwood?

20 story tower at UCLA

https://urbanize.la/sites/default/files/styles/1140w/public/field/image/ucla7.jpg?itok=0esGH039 (https://urbanize.la/post/ucla-plans-major-expansion-student-housing-capacity)