phrenic
Dec 15, 2007, 3:45 PM
This is on the corner of Agricola and Cunard, across from the Armoury.
http://www.solidhomes.com/images/armoury.jpg
I walked by this morning and there is a sign up for a 4-5 story development containing luxury condos and a professional center from Solid Homes.
http://www.solidhomes.com/armouryvilla.html
someone123
Dec 15, 2007, 5:37 PM
There was an old proposal for that site that was more like 7-8 floors but I think it's been dead for a while. I would guess this is simply another incarnation of that project.
worldlyhaligonian
Dec 15, 2007, 11:36 PM
hopefully its attractive.
terrynorthend
Dec 16, 2007, 3:55 PM
hopefully its attractive.
It reminds me a lot of the new condo being built behind Oland Brewery or the proposal for Gottingen across from Vogue Menswear.
Not attractive, but not hideous.
phrenic
Dec 19, 2007, 1:31 PM
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z152/phrenical/DSC03807.jpg
Keith P.
Dec 19, 2007, 10:24 PM
It's sort of funny to visit their website... lots of grammatical errors in the writeups.
The condo layouts are sort of odd too. Lots of angles and trapeziodal areas. Might be nice, who knows. One thing that it lacks is A/C, which these days I would expect to be more and more in demand.
someone123
Dec 19, 2007, 11:17 PM
It does look a little funny. The design is kind of like an overgrown McMansion. Not great, but better than what's there currently.
Commoner
Dec 24, 2007, 9:30 PM
Not sure about the rendering myself. Does anybody here think that this was designed by an architect, or are these places designed by builders who think that architects are an extravigance? I contacted them through their web site by email expressing my concerns about the possible quality of the finish. For what it's worth got a response within 24 hours saying that they would do their best. I just hope that it looks better than the place built across the street on the corner of Agricola and Cunard, ugly ugly building.
Quite the sketch--yellow ferrari and people that are 8 feet tall:)
phrenic
Feb 25, 2008, 2:56 PM
Small mock-up shots of this building:
http://images.mls.ca/listings/reb107/highres/1/158188a201_1.jpg
http://images.mls.ca/listings/reb107/highres/1/158188a201_4.jpg
taken from unit listing on mls.ca (http://www.mls.ca/PropertyDetails.aspx?vd=&SearchURL=%3fPage%3d2%26Mode%3d0%26vs%3dResidential%26ret%3d300%26sts%3d0-0%26beds%3d0-0%26baths%3d0-0%26aid%3d1180%26MapURL%3d%253fAreaID%253d6315%26tte%3d0%26tt%3d1%252c2%26mp%3d0-0-0%26mrt%3d0-0-4%26trt%3d2%26of%3d1%26ps%3d10%26o%3dA&Mode=0&PropertyID=6700722)
coolmillion
Feb 25, 2008, 8:34 PM
Like Commoner, I also fear that this place will end up looking like (or being equally hideous as) the building on the N-W corner of the same intersection, which could be the worst possible design for that location. I shudder every time I see it - which is often because it is visible from many angles around the Commons. Yikes.
phrenic
Feb 25, 2008, 9:59 PM
I would agree whole-heartily on the overall design of the building. It looks like the unofficial "gateway to the northend" will be stuck with ugly buildings on each side. But, I must say that the penthouse with the large rooftop terrace (http://www.solidhomes.com/pdf/penthouse.pdf) looks sweet.:yes:
Keith P.
Feb 25, 2008, 10:23 PM
I don't know how to describe the design of this thing... sort of a cross between faux-Victorian and '50s midcentury... :koko:
Halifax Hillbilly
Feb 29, 2008, 2:20 AM
This proposal might be an all new low for Halifax. :(
3/13 condos have been pre-sold and they hope to break ground in summer of 2008. How many units would they have to pre-sell to get the financing in place.
Who is proposing this?
terrynorthend
Mar 1, 2008, 4:10 AM
I would agree whole-heartily on the overall design of the building. It looks like the unofficial "gateway to the northend" will be stuck with ugly buildings on each side. But, I must say that the penthouse with the large rooftop terrace (http://www.solidhomes.com/pdf/penthouse.pdf) looks sweet.:yes:
Okay, something is odd about this penthouse. 4000 sq feet and only two bedrooms? It looks a lot like one of those Fisher-Price playsets if you ask me..
..Not that I'd turn down a 4000 sq ft penthouse condo on the Commons if one were offered..LOL
Commoner
Mar 2, 2008, 10:33 PM
I heard somewhere that as a general rule of thumb a developer has to get about 60% of units pre sold for them to get bank financing for a project. I am not completely sure on this though, so if anybody else has an idea or comment, that's cool. Regarding the penthouse, has anybody else noticed that the two bedrooms will have a 'mansard' style roof and so the useable square footage of the rooms will be lost to the slope of the roof, if I am interpreting the renderings correctly?
FRANKEE
Mar 7, 2008, 4:29 PM
I heard somewhere that as a general rule of thumb a developer has to get about 60% of units pre sold for them to get bank financing for a project. I am not completely sure on this though, so if anybody else has an idea or comment, that's cool. Regarding the penthouse, has anybody else noticed that the two bedrooms will have a 'mansard' style roof and so the useable square footage of the rooms will be lost to the slope of the roof, if I am interpreting the renderings correctly?
I think you are right about the 60% rule.I don't think there is a similar penthouse in Halifax that has a terrace over 1100 sf .It also has a large
den & a huge family room .I have not seen anything like it before .It is quite unique and I just love it .
phrenic
Mar 7, 2008, 7:13 PM
I just like how the terrace has more floor space than my entire apartment.
I don't have that Jacuzzi either.:jester:
Halifax Hillbilly
Mar 10, 2008, 5:19 PM
I just like how the terrace has more floor space than my entire apartment.
I don't have that Jacuzzi either.:jester:
What about the Lamborghini?
Seriously though I think this project is pretty ugly and hope it doesn't get built. Yes the property is an ugly empty lot but I'd rather wait a couple of years and have a decent proposal.
What about the Lamborghini?
Seriously though I think this project is pretty ugly and hope it doesn't get built. Yes the property is an ugly empty lot but I'd rather wait a couple of years and have a decent proposal.
:tup: :worship:
About time someone stated that
phrenic
Mar 10, 2008, 7:08 PM
What about the Lamborghini?
Seriously though I think this project is pretty ugly and hope it doesn't get built. Yes the property is an ugly empty lot but I'd rather wait a couple of years and have a decent proposal.
No, no Lamborghini either, although I recently toured a dealership in Montreal. :haha:
All kidding aside, I agree with your comments as well. With the exception of the penthouse terrace (opinions can vary), the project gets nothing more than an "ugh" from me. Very ugly. However, I expect it will be built.
I would change the thread title from "pro?" to "sales," but I don't know how - there doesn't seem to be an option in the general editing tools for my original post.
Halifax Hillbilly
Mar 11, 2008, 2:43 PM
About time someone stated that
Well the way I look at it is with gas prices moving up and boomers retiring the tide is turning and urban living will be back in a big way. I still think we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg in terms of infill proposals on the peninsula and hopefully as the market gets stronger we will start to see more quality proposals.
I also think that the core of Halifax has been decaying for so long that there really is no quick fix. We're looking at probably a decade or maybe much longer to start to bring back the downtown and surrounding neighbourhoods to anything approaching their former populations. Why rush in junk proposals? Regardless it will be a very long recovery for the downtown and one crappy project won't change that fact, but one crappy project will be there thirty years from now.
Well the way I look at it is with gas prices moving up and boomers retiring the tide is turning and urban living will be back in a big way. I still think we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg in terms of infill proposals on the peninsula and hopefully as the market gets stronger we will start to see more quality proposals.
I also think that the core of Halifax has been decaying for so long that there really is no quick fix. We're looking at probably a decade or maybe much longer to start to bring back the downtown and surrounding neighbourhoods to anything approaching their former populations. Why rush in junk proposals? Regardless it will be a very long recovery for the downtown and one crappy project won't change that fact, but one crappy project will be there thirty years from now.
Agreed, this is not worthy of the site and should be cancelled and redesigned and incorporate more properties and increase the height.
Problem i am seeing is the economy ie lending vendors are short terming their money and will have a significant impact on funding for developments. We are seeing projects in Ontairo starting to fail due to lending rates and we expect to see this problem grow in the near term.
The_Bow
Mar 11, 2008, 9:38 PM
What do they mean by "professional center"? The only commercial space seems to be at grade.
FRANKEE
Mar 11, 2008, 10:57 PM
Frankly guys,I think it will be one of the most beautiful buildings in Halifax.A landmark with character.I can't wait until I see it built
FRANKEE
Mar 11, 2008, 11:12 PM
Congratulations for the architect for such innovative design that shows a lot of creativity.
Empire
Mar 12, 2008, 1:44 AM
If it could morph into a Founders Corner it wouldn't be too bad. As long as it isn't as cheap as the thing across the street it will be an improvement.
someone123
Mar 12, 2008, 2:21 AM
I understand the position of those who would like to wait for something better, but this lot has sat empty for something like 40 years. The last proposal for the site was taller (also really ugly) and as far as I know ended up being a non-starter as a result, since it was thought to "compete" with the nearby armoury.
I'd prefer a nicer design but I don't have a problem with the scale of the building.
Jonovision
Mar 12, 2008, 3:17 AM
I've been plagued lately by a question that one of my professors asked us in class. Would u rather see the urban fabric repaired, get the population back up, have solid non broken street frontages, get rid of the parking lots through lots of smaller mediocre buildings and hope that they only last a maybe 2-3 decades, or do u want to hold out on ever single parking lot, empty lot, abandoned building, ugly building for the absolute best building possible?
I know my articulation of the question is not nearly as elegant as his :P but it's a very interesting point. And I think that its probably a bit of both. Certain opportunity sites should maybe be preserved for the best of the best, but I think sites like this, which aren't in terribly important locations, should maybe just be developed with whatever comes along as long as it respects the area, and has some good underlying principles. Such as ground floor retail, or apartments/townhouses.
Jessica111
Mar 12, 2008, 11:52 PM
I am astonished by the size of the penthouse & its terrace.It will get sunshine all daylong & Perfect for entertainement.If I had the money,I would not hesitate to buy it
Commoner
Mar 13, 2008, 12:13 AM
To weigh in again, agree with other people posting that the scale etc is in sympathy with the other buildings around it and in context to the neighbourhood. Do not agree that it is an insignificant site. It is in full view of the North Common, and across the street from a national historic site. Not sure that there are too many other places where such a combination exists. I think most posting here are also enthusiastic that there is a large terrace for the penthouse suite, which is not something that we see a lot of here. Having said all that, I will ask again. Does anybody think that this was actually designed by an architect? Not a technologist, not a builder, but an architect? I suspect that it isn't. The renderings and the scale model appear amateurish at best, and I too think that it is an 'ugly' building as proposed. Do I prefer more building to empty lots? absolutely. do I want to encourage others through debate in places like this to step up and create things that are practical and nice looking that we can all be proud of? as neighbours, citizens, residents, owners and developers we should all be engaged in the debate, absolutely. The one thing that makes me sad about this city is that there is no culture here of caring, of creating beauty in it's own right.
phrenic
Mar 13, 2008, 11:51 AM
What do they mean by "professional center"? The only commercial space seems to be at grade.
I'm not sure either as there is limited space on that lot. I could see a dentist's office there or a small clinic or something, maybe.
Halifax Hillbilly
Mar 13, 2008, 1:51 PM
To weigh in again, agree with other people posting that the scale etc is in sympathy with the other buildings around it and in context to the neighbourhood. Do not agree that it is an insignificant site. It is in full view of the North Common, and across the street from a national historic site. Not sure that there are too many other places where such a combination exists. I think most posting here are also enthusiastic that there is a large terrace for the penthouse suite, which is not something that we see a lot of here. Having said all that, I will ask again. Does anybody think that this was actually designed by an architect? Not a technologist, not a builder, but an architect? I suspect that it isn't. The renderings and the scale model appear amateurish at best, and I too think that it is an 'ugly' building as proposed. Do I prefer more building to empty lots? absolutely. do I want to encourage others through debate in places like this to step up and create things that are practical and nice looking that we can all be proud of? as neighbours, citizens, residents, owners and developers we should all be engaged in the debate, absolutely. The one thing that makes me sad about this city is that there is no culture here of caring, of creating beauty in it's own right.
I completely agree. I think the scale of the building is fine for the area, but the quality of this rendering is horrible. If they aren't going to even put a mediocre amount of effort into a building why should they be allowed to build it? I'm not saying we hold out for masterpieces in every site but there has to be some standards.
The problem is this is probably an as of right development and will have to be approved if it meets the zoning. Hopefully the condos don't sell and this proposal doesn't get built.
pingfanren_89
May 15, 2008, 3:25 AM
I tried to find out some background information of this Armoury Villa's home company. But it seems there is only information from Solid Homes Construction Ltd.'s own website.
Has anybody ever heard of this company?
phrenic
Jul 2, 2008, 8:14 PM
Excavation has started.
terrynorthend
Jul 7, 2008, 11:31 PM
I was looking at he hole they are digging today. Sucks for those people living nextdoor in the burgundy house on Agricola. They are losing the entire backyard ..looks like this development is an L-shape that will wrap around that house.
Dmajackson
Jul 8, 2008, 12:06 AM
I was looking at he hole they are digging today. Sucks for those people living nextdoor in the burgundy house on Agricola. They are losing the entire backyard ..looks like this development is an L-shape that will wrap around that house.
That reminds me of what happened at 5800 South. The poor guy lost all of his yard and ended up selling his house.
Dmajackson
Aug 18, 2008, 3:44 AM
Anyone have any updates on this proposal?
spaustin
Aug 18, 2008, 6:04 AM
That reminds me of what happened at 5800 South. The poor guy lost all of his yard and ended up selling his house.
I know the house on South Street. It's still for sale and has been for sometime now (I saw it on MLS again tonight). It's being offered for pratically nothing compared to what property in the southend normally goes for. It's a real shame. That project did that property owner a world of hurt.
someone123
Aug 22, 2008, 3:27 PM
Here is the construction site:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2787293378_07c4653d9d_o.png
dartmouthian
Oct 25, 2008, 5:48 PM
the building across from it actually wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't put vinyl siding around the balconies. they should have continued the brick there but instead it sticks out like a sore thumb and makes the whole building look twice as bad
Dmajackson
Oct 25, 2008, 5:58 PM
I was by this today. They're on the second floor frame. Its a very small building.
Haliguy
Nov 11, 2008, 10:19 PM
Updated pic from today
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/a_gallant/IMG_0022-2.jpg
Dmajackson
Nov 11, 2008, 10:29 PM
^ Okay that picture really shows how tiny this building will be.
Haliguy
Nov 11, 2008, 10:32 PM
Your right its not very, big but I think it will fit in nicely in that location.
Dmajackson
Nov 11, 2008, 10:37 PM
It probably will fit in nicely there. Maybe it'll attract the Lamboughini's that are shown in its rendering :rolleyes:
hfx_chris
Nov 13, 2008, 2:14 AM
I really like the floor plans for these units...
Haliguy
Dec 7, 2008, 1:16 AM
Updated pic from today.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/a_gallant/IMG_0128.jpg
Barrington south
Dec 13, 2008, 4:23 PM
I really like the floor plans for these units... I agree....the floor plans are very appealing...to bad the same can't be said for the exterior though
Dmajackson
Dec 13, 2008, 11:49 PM
They are working on the fifth and final floor now. Due to the size it shouldn't take long to get the siding on so I can see this habitable for next summer.
Dmajackson
Dec 23, 2008, 7:09 PM
They are topped out now.
Haliguy
Mar 7, 2009, 6:39 PM
Here's an updated pic
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j260/a_gallant/IMG_0377.jpg
Dmajackson
Mar 16, 2009, 3:31 AM
Some photos taken today by me. In the first one it shows the small impact this development has on the skyline (its on the far right) and in the second photo its a close up from Bell Road;
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3615/3358962910_c2655e92e9_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/3358143201_0af1d70f29_b.jpg
someone123
Mar 16, 2009, 4:33 AM
I guess it's better than the empty lot, but I'm not a big fan of this project. It doesn't address that prominent corner very well and it just seems too small compared to the scale of the Commons, the Armoury, and other apartments/condos nearby. The apartment across the street is also a "Clayton Park Special" - not well-suited to the area.
It would have been better had they also had one or two lots next door to include in the project and maybe put in a curved front similar to the Trillium.
Dmajackson
Mar 17, 2009, 12:33 AM
From my photo tour today;
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3467/3360648035_e7013526f3_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3593/3360646963_393c886bb1_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3655/3360649197_09be4a43a7_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3584/3361468016_bddd849f78_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3627/3360653221_3cb9422e17_b.jpg
hfx_chris
Mar 18, 2009, 2:05 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3584/3361468016_bddd849f78_b.jpg
So... did you introduce yourself? :cool:
Dmajackson
Mar 18, 2009, 3:09 AM
So... did you introduce yourself? :cool:
LOL ... You are the second person to ask me if I knew that girl (Nicko99 was the other). :haha:
And yes we know each other. In fact she's my girlfriend. She's the one whose been dragging me around this week. :P
Dmajackson
Apr 19, 2009, 4:18 AM
Just an update photo taken by me;
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3453589456_9649715d46_b.jpg
Empire
Apr 19, 2009, 11:30 AM
Not much style. What is the likelyhood that will change with a superior exterior finish?
Jonovision
Apr 19, 2009, 12:52 PM
If the cladding is done right I still have hope for this one.
It could easily have the nice appeal of Harbour Place on Portland street in downtown Dartmouth.
http://www.urchinholdings.com/10port/front.jpg
pic from urchin holdings
Waye Mason
Apr 19, 2009, 10:59 PM
How about they fix the cladding on the armoury so they can take down those god awful fences and construction hording. So disappointing.
eastcoastal
Apr 19, 2009, 11:08 PM
The bright rigid insulation, sheathing, or weather barrier, or whatever it is, makes me hope that it'll have a fantastic, colourful exterior cladding that makes something of its prime corner position. Something tells me they'll aim for nothing short of adequate, and we'll end up with dumpy faux stone installed unevenly a la Agricola & North, or a hideous combination of brick and vinyl like the beauty on the other corner.
Shame - could be a real opportunity to play on the colourful buildings that are starting to characterize Agricola Street further north.
someone123
Apr 19, 2009, 11:39 PM
It is supposed to be bland fake stone. I agree that this was a missed opportunity.. I doubt a better design would have really cost any more.
The Armoury should be restored. It's a nice building and is unique within Canada (from the 1890s but electrified and with structural steel columns).
Dmajackson
May 9, 2009, 5:14 PM
Picture taken by me today;
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3630/3516115340_49d171889b_b.jpg
Waye Mason
May 10, 2009, 1:26 AM
The Armoury should be restored. It's a nice building and is unique within Canada (from the 1890s but electrified and with structural steel columns).
Hugely important, culturally and historically. The Armoury should be restored, or reused as something else (cultural centre and museum?) It is the kind of building that defines Halifax. Very cool.
Keith P.
May 10, 2009, 11:59 AM
Are those french doors I see? Balconies aren't shown on the renderings, but what are the doors for?
Nilan8888
May 10, 2009, 2:20 PM
Hugely important, culturally and historically. The Armoury should be restored, or reused as something else (cultural centre and museum?) It is the kind of building that defines Halifax. Very cool.
Well with the rigorous work the HT has been doing to preserve culture in Halifax, surely we don't need to worry about-
Oh. Wait a minute...
HaliStreaks
May 11, 2009, 3:54 AM
Are those french doors I see? Balconies aren't shown on the renderings, but what are the doors for?
More than likely a styled Venetian balcony... you'll have the patio doors which will open, but outside will probably have a decorative grate and rail to keep people from falling out of your living room. lol. :haha:
Hugely important, culturally and historically. The Armoury should be restored, or reused as something else (cultural centre and museum?) It is the kind of building that defines Halifax. Very cool.
Well with the rigorous work the HT has been doing to preserve culture in Halifax, surely we don't need to worry about-
Oh. Wait a minute...
Good call. :yes: :tup:
Commoner
May 11, 2009, 9:12 PM
Hugely important, culturally and historically. The Armoury should be restored, or reused as something else (cultural centre and museum?) It is the kind of building that defines Halifax. Very cool.
The hoarding is there to prevent bits of the building from falling off and injuring people or damaging property (the sandstone is crumbling and falling off). Agree that it should be restored; it's a nationally designated heritage structure, so there are strict rules about what can and cannot be done with it. For example, the exterior must be restored to it's original design, despite what anybody plans to do with the inside. It's an historic site because of the design (first major public building in Halifax with electrification, as well as huge open space unsupported by columns), the architect (Fuller, who was Dominion Architect at the time...wonderful title!....went on to design the current centre block of the Parliament buildings) and finally, that it was a staging area for WWI.
Waye Mason
May 12, 2009, 12:46 AM
The hoarding is there to prevent bits of the building from falling off and injuring people or damaging property (the sandstone is crumbling and falling off). Agree that it should be restored; it's a nationally designated heritage structure, so there are strict rules about what can and cannot be done with it. For example, the exterior must be restored to it's original design, despite what anybody plans to do with the inside. It's an historic site because of the design (first major public building in Halifax with electrification, as well as huge open space unsupported by columns), the architect (Fuller, who was Dominion Architect at the time...wonderful title!....went on to design the current centre block of the Parliament buildings) and finally, that it was a staging area for WWI.
Oh I know, and agree, with all that. There is the open space, the Regimental office on Cunard, the residence/mess block on Armoury place. Then you have those amazing towers. You could have a museum, a gallery, offices, and a 1500-2000 person concert hall inside. I love the idea of having the space used for something meaningful. If the military wants to keep it, they should fix it and maybe move Land Forces Atlantic offices into a renovated armoury. Make it a working facility. Either way, I want to see the building fixed, and used, not half way mothballed and hardly used.
Jonovision
May 12, 2009, 4:49 PM
Oh I know, and agree, with all that. There is the open space, the Regimental office on Cunard, the residence/mess block on Armoury place. Then you have those amazing towers. You could have a museum, a gallery, offices, and a 1500-2000 person concert hall inside. I love the idea of having the space used for something meaningful. If the military wants to keep it, they should fix it and maybe move Land Forces Atlantic offices into a renovated armoury. Make it a working facility. Either way, I want to see the building fixed, and used, not half way mothballed and hardly used.
A concert hall would be a great use for that building. And there's probably enough room in there to make one that would be a fair big bigger then the Cohn.
Commoner
May 12, 2009, 9:20 PM
There is . Make it a working facility. Either way, I want to see the building fixed, and used, not half way mothballed and hardly used.
Glad that we agree that it would be good to fix it. I would argue with you on the hardly used part though; about 350 part-time and about 25 full-time members of the Canadian Forces use that building on a daily/weekly basis. It's actually quite a busy place.
Waye Mason
May 13, 2009, 12:48 AM
Well, sure, but you could cram them into Scotian, or another much smaller building. It used to hold a regiment, didn't it? We have a tonne of buildings up at Willow Park/Windsor Park, we have the almosted empty Dartmouth Annex. 350 people, sure, think what it costs to heat the place!
I just doubt the CF will be willing to invest the many millions the place needs.
Jonovision
May 22, 2009, 5:27 PM
It's barely noticeable just to the right of the top of the crane at the dockyards.
http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/2728/2617011430096709958S600x600Q85.jpg
Dmajackson
May 30, 2009, 10:49 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3579133679_b0b56d124f_b.jpg
Credit: Me
Jonovision
May 31, 2009, 1:14 AM
Is that a thin layer of concrete they are putting on the facade?!
miesh111
Jun 3, 2009, 2:41 PM
It's stucko. A lot of different homes are finished with it, and some small areas of larger developments. This is the first time I've seen an entire condo / apartment building done in it.
Barrington south
Jun 3, 2009, 10:54 PM
It's stucko. A lot of different homes are finished with it, and some small areas of larger developments. This is the first time I've seen an entire condo / apartment building done in it.
Ohhhh F*** me!!!......Stocco?.....is that gonna be the finally layer, you think? or is something going to cover it up?.....I heard a term used some time ago on this thread and thought it was pretty derogatory and inacurrate.....however, I must ask....is this what some have referred to as a "Lebanese Building"
miesh111
Jun 4, 2009, 12:44 PM
Well that is pretty derogatory, considering the Trilium, 5552 Kaye Street, Kings Wharf, Mount Royale, Barrington Gate and a whole bunch of good buildings are / were built by Lebanese Developers.
But if you mean that how a building looks in Lebanon, then yes, I guess stucko is what is used an awful lot. Maybe they'll have red tile roofing too?
Also, I'm not sure if the developer of this is Lebanese or not. I tried a registry of joint stocks search and Armoury Villa doesn't even come up.
maoro
Jun 7, 2009, 6:39 PM
The developer of this project is a first-time condo builder from what I can tell, and has typically built suburban homes in the past: http://www.solidhomes.com/projects.html
It would be scary buying from a first time builder, and based on some of the choices they have made, like using stucco, I wasn't comfortable buying in this building. It seemed to be particularly low quality, even for Halifax condos.
eastcoastal
Jun 8, 2009, 3:46 AM
...
It would be scary buying from a first time builder, and based on some of the choices they have made, like using stucco, I wasn't comfortable buying in this building. It seemed to be particularly low quality, even for Halifax condos.
And the floor plans are bizarre. I bet the patio for the top floor will feel awesome in the summer - it's pretty much in the trees - but the layouts for the units are not what I would call ... sensible. There are weird angles and columns in odd places - and not in a way that would be interesting.
maoro
Jun 8, 2009, 12:36 PM
I agree. I live in the Pantages building in Toronto right now, on the east side. We have a beautiful curved curtain glass wall, it really makes the place seem bigger than it is, but it is pretty impractical due to it's irregular shape and ends up wasting a lot of space. From what I can see, Armory Villa will be even worse.
There are going to be a lot of units on the market in the area at one time. It will be interesting to watch sales in the next year at the current price points.
In general my wife and I have found the newer condos in Halifax to be extremely poorly designed. The condos at 5839 Cunard St had these really odd "den" configurations which meant there was 100-200 sq.ft of useless space in the middle of each condo. They hadn't even figured out what to do with the space in the demo unit.
The best designed condo we had seen was definitely the Hydrostone development. The quality of the finishes was great and the layout of the units were sensible. We didn't buy there because of the location, although I think when we spend some more time in the city, we may come to like that area more. Everything was top quality and thoughtful imho, I think the building will do well in the coming years.
And the floor plans are bizarre. I bet the patio for the top floor will feel awesome in the summer - it's pretty much in the trees - but the layouts for the units are not what I would call ... sensible. There are weird angles and columns in odd places - and not in a way that would be interesting.
hfx_chris
Jun 8, 2009, 12:59 PM
And the floor plans are bizarre. I bet the patio for the top floor will feel awesome in the summer - it's pretty much in the trees - but the layouts for the units are not what I would call ... sensible. There are weird angles and columns in odd places - and not in a way that would be interesting.
I was just going to say the same thing, those floor plans are.. bizarre.
I mean look at this:
http://www.solidhomes.com/pdf/d.pdf
It makes no sense!
hfx_chris
Jun 8, 2009, 1:45 PM
The condos at 5839 Cunard St had these really odd "den" configurations which meant there was 100-200 sq.ft of useless space in the middle of each condo. They hadn't even figured out what to do with the space in the demo unit.
Agreed! A lot of the new buildings going up have these stupid, useless dens which are more often than not too small to comfortably use, and awkwardly placed. And don't even think about using it as extra storage space, they usually never have doors
Dmajackson
Jun 27, 2009, 3:24 AM
Photos by me today;
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/3664430372_0c10811ee9_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2463/3664458144_9afff62f24_b.jpg
DigitalNinja
Jun 27, 2009, 3:26 AM
Personally I think the clading on this building is butt ugly.
Barrington south
Jun 27, 2009, 4:56 PM
Yah, I'm with Dig....hey Dig you seem like a pretty good dude if yah don't mind me sayin'
Barrington south
Jun 27, 2009, 7:25 PM
Personally I think the clading on this building is butt ugly.
although some chicks have very nice butts...I know what your sayin' though bro...no worries
DigitalNinja
Jun 29, 2009, 6:01 PM
See if there were a bunch of chicks in summer short shorts walking by at the time the picture was taken, it would look a lot better to me.
Dmajackson
Aug 4, 2009, 9:50 PM
They've begun finally on the finished material for the outside.
Its stone you find on mansions (gray and random).
But so far it looks like it might turn out decent if the material for the top floors compliments it. :)
someone123
Sep 28, 2009, 6:15 PM
Here's the view across the Common:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3428/3955583568_f5db911c07_b.jpg
by Mikon Vienna on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mi_kon/3954824879/in/set-72157622457499432/)
Jonovision
Sep 28, 2009, 7:14 PM
Great view! Is that from the Welsford?
Great view! Is that from the Welsford?
Either that, or from the Armco building on the corner
eastcoastal
Oct 3, 2009, 9:36 PM
Ugh - I was walking past yesterday and saw that they were assmebling a miniature faux grecian temple shape at ground level on the corner.
Out of styrofoam.
FRANKEE
Oct 4, 2009, 4:49 PM
The whole building looks fantastic.
Dmajackson
Oct 4, 2009, 5:02 PM
So far I have very mixed opinions on this. While it is nice to see infill happening and it does fill out the whole lot I don't know if the stone and little entrance on the corner is going to cut it for me.
FRANKEE
Oct 4, 2009, 6:57 PM
So far I have very mixed opinions on this. While it is nice to see infill happening and it does fill out the whole lot I don't know if the stone and little entrance on the corner is going to cut it for me.
If this building doesn't cut it for you nothing will.I advise you to do something useful but first try to seek some professional help with the rest of the comedians.
Dmajackson
Oct 4, 2009, 8:04 PM
If this building doesn't cut it for you nothing will.I advise you to do something useful but first try to seek some professional help with the rest of the comedians.
Well I'm more in favour of projects like McCully (RIP), Agricola@North, and Kaye St, all of which have great designs and don't look nearly as stubby as this one.
BTW what do you mean by the comedian remark?
worldlyhaligonian
Oct 4, 2009, 9:24 PM
If this building doesn't cut it for you nothing will.I advise you to do something useful but first try to seek some professional help with the rest of the comedians.
I feel bad for you if you think this is a high quality development...
"If this building doesn't cut if for you nothing will."
You are a fucking moron.
That is all.
FRANKEE
Oct 4, 2009, 10:20 PM
I feel bad for you if you think this is a high quality development...
"If this building doesn't cut if for you nothing will."
You are a fucking moron.
That is all.
I know that you are jealous because you are one of the stupid architects who failed to come up with anything on that lot.You need help too and maybe you can go together as a group and get a package deal.
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