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SpongeG
Dec 28, 2007, 12:09 AM
I saw something like this when i was in London in 2002 - it was kind of a shock cause i was walking down a street in SOHO and i had to do a double take when i saw some guy standing there peeing out in the open into an out in the open urinal :haha: the ones i saw however did not afford the pee-er so much modesty ;)

Public peeing prompts pop-up potties

VICTORIA -- This city, known for its hanging baskets, is about to make its mark as the first in North America to install pop-up public urinals for bar patrons.

The B.C. capital is turning to a Dutch company to deliver two pop-up urinals -- each with three stalls -- in the new year.

By day, the devices -- installed underground, connected to the sewer system -- appear much like manhole covers. At night, they are raised.

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/48d772b0-440b-4862-9dea-94c061d8eb0d/potty1.jpg?size=l
This is how the pop-up urinal looks during the day. Click 'next' below to see it as it pops up.
- Urilift International

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/48d772b0-440b-4862-9dea-94c061d8eb0d/potty2.jpg?size=l
Halfway up.

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/48d772b0-440b-4862-9dea-94c061d8eb0d/potty3.jpg?size=l
Three quarters.

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/48d772b0-440b-4862-9dea-94c061d8eb0d/potty4.jpg?size=l
The urinal at its full height.

"We are doing something innovative that no one else is doing," said Mike Hill, Victoria's downtown co-ordinator. "It shows the level of concern the city has for the [public-urination] problem."

The tender for the devices closed recently, with only Urilift International making a $151,000 bid.

After the pop-up toilets arrive, it will take several weeks to get them certified for use, but "we have no reason to believe they won't work here," said Hill. He's confident the devices will reduce the number of instances of public urination after the city studied the problem, using portable stalls.

They were well received by the public and the city's public works yard documented a reduction in the number of calls for cleaning up streets and alcoves.

The cost of placing portable toilets out for three nights a week is estimated at $67,000 a year.

Hill said he wasn't concerned about women wanting similar conveniences. "We are trying to curb a problem primarily caused by males in the late evening hours."

A report to city council said pub patrons, not homeless people, accounted for most of the instances of public urination. Staff made the determination after monitoring use of the urinals.

"We are confident in the relationship between the bar crowd and public urination," Hill said, adding they continue to monitor the use of the portable toilets.

Since the report, bar and cabaret owners have agreed to put up posters in their premises reminding customers not to urinate in the streets. Other North American cities, including Vancouver and Seattle, have installed large, expensive, self-cleaning public toilets, but found they were subjected to vandalism.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=1bcfb858-ad38-4ef5-801e-26d341dee230

G-Man
Dec 28, 2007, 12:23 AM
We have had portable urinals around the city for just about a year now. I have to say I have tried them out. Quite refreshing :)

Nutterbug
Dec 28, 2007, 12:41 AM
Regular public washrooms just won't do?

G-Man
Dec 28, 2007, 3:11 AM
Their closed at night with the exception of the scarey public washroom in Centennial Square.

Phil McAvity
Dec 28, 2007, 3:12 PM
People peeing in public was such a problem that the public promptly paid public works people plenty to patch up the problem. I also predict prodiguous penalties for public peeing. People in parochial political positions have become petty, pathetic and punitive.

Cambridgite
Dec 28, 2007, 6:00 PM
This thread is hilarious!

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Holden West
Dec 29, 2007, 6:57 PM
Nice one, Phil!

Believe it or not, City employees determined the optimal placement of the permanent urinals by placing portables in various locations and then discreetly counting the users from a distance.

G-Man
Dec 29, 2007, 7:29 PM
^ HW they measured the use by litres of urine.

Overground
Jan 3, 2008, 6:53 PM
I wonder where they're going to put them.

G-Man
Jan 3, 2008, 9:23 PM
One in Bastion Square and the other on the corner of Douglas and View Street.

Phil McAvity
Jan 4, 2008, 9:49 AM
Bastion Square makes sense, but right out front of the Stratchcona makes more sense than Douglas and View.

G-Man
Jan 4, 2008, 5:23 PM
I know they tested the corner of Courtenay and Douglas but I guess they volume was not as high there.

vid
Jan 4, 2008, 5:27 PM
How do these things handle in winter? What will women do?

G-Man
Jan 4, 2008, 8:03 PM
Well we don't get winter so that shouldn't be a problem. Part of the study showed that women are more likely to plan ahead and use a washroom before leaving one place and going to another.

zaphod
Jan 5, 2008, 5:41 AM
what happens if it it goes back down and a person is inside?

Mike K.
Jan 5, 2008, 5:44 AM
haha...

Nutterbug
Jan 5, 2008, 5:47 AM
what happens if it it goes back down and a person is inside?

He'll probably get taken down into the maintenance facility.

Mike K.
Jan 5, 2008, 6:07 AM
...or Batman's cave.

Come to think of it, it could be a housing solution for the core :hmmm:

SpongeG
Jan 10, 2008, 4:23 AM
what happens if it it goes back down and a person is inside?

there is no inside

its 3 urinals around a core

guys will be peeing into it and people on the street will be able to see them

like this:

http://www.brentandshawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/craigurinal.JPG

http://hazel8500.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/portable_pee_holes210-bstotesbury-vtc.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1358/534229246_f8975decfa_m.jpg

http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_17alt4.jpg

^^^ thats similiar to what i saw in London in 2002 - it sure made me doa double take :haha:

this is one in China - provides for a little more modesty

http://www.saynotocrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/chinese-outdoor-urinal.jpg

some older style ones

http://travelpete.com/gfx/lifestyle/bathrooms/dutch-public-urinal-toilet.jpg

Nutterbug
Jan 10, 2008, 4:32 AM
Are #3's allowed?

Holden West
Jan 10, 2008, 7:42 AM
The older ones are pissoirs and you don't see them in Paris or Amsterdam anymore but you still might see them in some of the smaller cities.

If they measure by volume, they might get some bad stats because one pee after a night in the bars is equal to several daytime pees!

wisla_krakow
Jan 11, 2008, 3:27 AM
What if I have to take a shit?

gumgum
Jan 11, 2008, 4:03 AM
^Go for it!

G-Man
Jan 11, 2008, 4:43 PM
^^ I guess you will still have to use doorways for that.

Phil McAvity
Jan 11, 2008, 10:59 PM
What if I have to take a shit?

What? You've never heard of a dumpster?

Phil McAvity
Jan 11, 2008, 11:04 PM
Are #3's allowed?


I'm pretty sure it's only designed for #1. What the hell's a #3 anyway? Blowing your nose?

Overground
Jan 11, 2008, 11:34 PM
Talk about stage fright with those things:haha:

This is more like it - The bog version from the same company called UriGienic.
http://i15.tinypic.com/6t01noh.jpg

SpongeG
Jan 17, 2008, 5:11 AM
when you're drunk you'll pee anywhere

I used to pee along granville street in my drunken clubbing days

at least back than it was a lot darker than today - haha

Overground
Jan 17, 2008, 7:58 AM
Me too....well, the back alley. I don't think I would have been brave enough on the street but mind you being intoxicated blurs the memory.