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BLACK STAR
Sep 18, 2011, 9:13 PM
Sept 18, 2011.

Edmontons 37th Sat nite party :(

Kid was only 27!

JuelzJones
Sep 18, 2011, 9:36 PM
Toronto is at a very low 35 murders so far this year.

2010 - 44
2009 - 42
2008 - 52
2007 - 61

Rumors
Sep 19, 2011, 2:52 AM
Montreal is at 27

The last homicide was the fifth to happens in Cote Des Neiges borough since the beginning of the year

#28 another murder in Montreal tonight.

Spoolmak
Sep 19, 2011, 7:19 AM
kamloops is at 2 I think. 18 year old murdered his father in his home last monday

Marty_Mcfly
Sep 20, 2011, 12:16 AM
St. John's is still sitting at two, which is more or less the average for most years.

Winnipegger@Heart
Sep 20, 2011, 12:49 PM
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/09/19/senior-citys-38th-slaying

Calgarian
Sep 20, 2011, 4:29 PM
Calgary had our 5th homicide last night, very good year so far. Hopefully it stays this way for a few years, this city was getting crazy for a few years there.

Calgarian
Sep 20, 2011, 4:33 PM
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/09/19/senior-citys-38th-slaying

I hope Edmonton doesn't have any more, but with just over 3 months left in the year it looks like they will hit the 40's. Crazy year for Edmonton, hate to see this stuff happen.

Wishblade
Sep 20, 2011, 5:33 PM
Calgary had our 5th homicide last night, very good year so far. Hopefully it stays this way for a few years, this city was getting crazy for a few years there.

Wow, Calgary at 3x the size has about 1/3rd the number of homicides as Halifax so far this year. Thats not something you see too often..

chrisallard5454
Sep 22, 2011, 9:44 PM
19 year old kills her grandmother in normally quiet neighbourhood. This is Winnipeg's 31st Homicide of the year.


Neighbourhood Perspective:

North Central Winnipeg:
North Point Douglas (Pop. 2 225) = 7
Centennial (Pop. 2 225) = 1
Total = 8

North End:
Lord Selkirk Park (Pop. 1 365) = 3
William Whyte (Pop. 6 220) = 2
Dufferin (Pop. 2 090) = 1
St. Johns (Pop. 7 725) = 1
Total = 7

Downtown:
Portage-Ellice (Pop 1 105) = 3
Central Park (Pop 3 555) = 2
Exchange Dist. (Pop 420) = 2
Total = 7

South Winnipeg:
River-Osbourne (Pop. 4 880) = 2
Fort Richmond (Pop. 11 610) = 1
Munroe East (Pop 8 460) = 1
Niakwa Place (Pop. 2 385) = 1
Total = 5

West End:
Daniel Mcintyre (Pop. 9 750) = 2
St. Mathews (Pop. 5 575) = 1
Total = 3

North East Winnipeg:
Beaumont (Pop. 2 360) = 1
Total = 1

This date:
Winnipeg (Pop. 693 200) = 31
Winnipeg (2010) = 17
Winnipeg (2009) = 21

Symz
Sep 22, 2011, 9:53 PM
There was a 27yr old stabbed in Windsor the other day, but he survived and is in stable condition so we are still going strong @ 23-24 months murder free in Windsor!

Close call though..

chrisallard5454
Sep 26, 2011, 3:20 AM
This really sucks but another is dead in Winnipeg after a stabbing in the North End. Police found him deceased on the side of the street. I checked after TrueViking said we were better off because no one has been stabbed thinking how ridiculous it would be if someone had in fact been shot to death. And look at that a man killed. Bad night for Winnipeg. This is Winnipeg's 32 Homicide. It is strange how the revival of the city really has no affect in stemming the heat in some neighbourhoods. The pride of some, it seems is not restored by Sports.

Here is a map to show how safe the city is. Outside of a few areas there is virtually no risk to anyone. The city itself homicide wise is not bad at all. Rather a few key areas need a big change.

http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/homicides/

The latest homicide is not included in the map.

Neighbourhood Perspective:

North Central Winnipeg:
North Point Douglas (Pop. 2 225) = 7
Centennial (Pop. 2 225) = 1
Total (Pop. 4 450) = 8

North End:
Lord Selkirk Park (Pop. 1 365) = 3
William Whyte (Pop. 6 220) = 2
Dufferin (Pop. 2 090) = 1
St. Johns (Pop. 7 725) = 2
Total (Pop. 17 400) = 8

Downtown:
Portage-Ellice (Pop 1 105) = 3
Central Park (Pop 3 555) = 2
Exchange Dist. (Pop 420) = 2
Total (Pop. 5 080) = 7

South Winnipeg:
River-Osbourne (Pop. 4 880) = 2
Fort Richmond (Pop. 11 610) = 1
Niakwa Place (Pop. 2 385) = 1
Beaumont (Pop. 2 360) = 1
Total (Pop. 21 235) = 5

West End:
Daniel Mcintyre (Pop. 9 750) = 2
St. Mathews (Pop. 5 575) = 1
Total (Pop. 15 325) = 3

North East Winnipeg:
Munroe East (Pop 8 460) = 1
Total (Pop. 8 460) = 1

This date:
Winnipeg (Pop. 693 200) = 32
Winnipeg (2010) = 17
Winnipeg (2009) = 21

Blitz
Sep 27, 2011, 2:27 PM
Windsor has officially gone 2 years without a murder! The last homicide was on Sep. 27, 2009.

north 42
Sep 27, 2011, 4:59 PM
Hopefully with 2 years murder free, some people will stop thinking that Windsor is somehow like Detroit because we share a border. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Darkoshvilli
Sep 27, 2011, 5:59 PM
Windsor has officially gone 2 years without a murder! The last homicide was on Sep. 27, 2009.

That's pretty incredible tbh. Windsor homicide detectives must be bored.

Symz
Sep 27, 2011, 6:19 PM
That's pretty incredible tbh. Windsor homicide detectives must be bored.

I bet they are. I think they should put those homicide detectives to work and start busting all the jacktards that keep spray painting 'THC' or 'PURE' all over the damned place.

I don't mind spray painting if it's artistic, what I can't stand is someone tagging something with something that looks shitty.

Get to it detectives! Detect something!

Blitz
Sep 27, 2011, 8:37 PM
From what I've heard they've been able to put more police resources into investigating break-ins and auto theft and have put away a few people who were responsible for a lot of those around town....the rates of those offences have plummetted over the past year as well.

I don't know how to explain the lack of murders but I guess it's proof that high unemployment does not cause an increase in crime.

north 42
Sep 27, 2011, 9:42 PM
Almost all catagories of crime are down in the city this year, which is great to hear.

Blitz
Sep 27, 2011, 10:14 PM
Ok, I found an article where the police attempt to explain it....

Windsor murder free for 2 years
Police credit gun control and drug unit for drop in homicide rate

CBC News
Sep 27, 2011

It's been two years since someone last committed homicide in Windsor, Ont. It's a stretch that impresses law enforcement officials on both sides of the border.

"It's a record that all of us right across the country envy, it's really quite extraordinary and I think it's something that the people of Windsor should be very, very proud of," Toronto police Chief Bill Blair said. "I use it as an example," Minneapolis police Chief Timothy Dolan said earlier in September. As of Sept. 1, Minneapolis had 22 homicides this year.

"The cities are so similar in so many ways, the policing is so similar — except for one factor, and that's that they have reasonable gun control up in Canada," Dolan said. Windsor police credit those gun control laws and their focus on local guns, gangs and drugs for keeping the homicide rate low.

"It's a long stretch, but to attribute it to any one thing, I think, would be really dangerous," Windsor police Chief Gary Smith said. "There's a lot of things that stop the homicide rate, but the biggest factor is how we police it, because if we can keep the guns off the streets then that also reduces the risks."

In 2006, Windsor created a guns, gangs and drugs unit, specifically designed to handle the cross-border drug trade. As of Sept. 1, Windsor police had seized 38 guns this year. They seized 42 in the previous two years combined.
The last killing in Windsor occurred Sept. 27, 2009. Mohamed Yousef, 23, was shot in the back after exiting a bar in the early morning hours. By comparison, Halifax had 28 homicides in the last two years, up to Sept. 1, 2011. Regina has had 15 homicides during the same time period. Detroit, which is just 1,200 metres from Windsor and has a population four times larger, has recorded 260 homicides to date in 2011.

Smith also credits what he calls the local "highly trained EMS and emergency room" staff for saving lives that otherwise may be lost in the aftermath of a violent confrontation." Smith said that during the last two years there have been "close calls" involving the victims of stabbings and beatings who were kept alive in time to be treated and saved at hospital.

Smith knows the homicide-free streak won't last forever and acknowledges there is an element of luck involved. And there are some academics who question the link between guns and violent crime rates, much less homicide. "It's a popular approach among law enforcement to go after the guns. It's fairly easy to do but there's almost no evidence that it has an impact on the violent crime rate," said David Martin, program director at Wayne State University's Center for Urban Studies. "In Windsor where homicides are a fairly rare event it would be very difficult to prove that that would be an effective strategy."

Studies suggest economic hardship is tied to a rise in violent crime. "Not surprisingly we do know that communities with higher rates of unemployment tend to have higher rates of crime, especially violent crime," said Martin. That makes Windsor's current streak even more impressive because Windsor had Canada's highest unemployment rate for 16 of the 24 months of this streak. Coincidently, one of Windsor's longest homicide-free streaks came during the heart of the Great Depression when the city lived through 1933 through 1935 without a homicide. That's still not the local record. Windsor went four years without a homicide, from 1918-1921. Windsor's 25-year average for homicides is 5.24. Over 50 years it's 4.78.

Symz
Sep 28, 2011, 12:54 AM
I was just about to post the same article Blitz. :haha:

north 42
Sep 28, 2011, 7:17 PM
just one more reason to be proud of my city :cheers:

suburbanite
Sep 28, 2011, 7:45 PM
Is downtown Winnipeg pretty sketchy at night then? I've never been to the city, but I'm guessing most people evacuate back to the surrounding neighbourhoods after work.

Joshy
Sep 28, 2011, 7:50 PM
Is downtown Winnipeg pretty sketchy at night then? I've never been to the city, but I'm guessing most people evacuate back to the surrounding neighbourhoods after work.

No more or less sketchy than most other downtowns in major Canadian cities.

kwoldtimer
Sep 28, 2011, 9:05 PM
Which would mean not sketchy at all.

chrisallard5454
Sep 29, 2011, 12:14 AM
Is downtown Winnipeg pretty sketchy at night then? I've never been to the city, but I'm guessing most people evacuate back to the surrounding neighbourhoods after work.

Empty. But not at all sketchy. I have walked downtown numerous times. The worst I have personally seen downtown is two women yelling at a bus driver for kicking them off for doing something stupid, or something along those lines. But really unless you think that the occasional person asking for a smoke or asking if you want to buy something from them, it is not at all sketchy.

And keep in mind that this is pre-Jets as well. A lot is happening downtown right now, with 15 000 + fans heading downtown every other night, as well as a brand new hotel, multiple restaurants and all night coffee shops, it is on its way to be a pretty spectacular downtown!

And speaking of which, I am off to make my batch of nacho's and cheese, and sit down in front of the 15'' screen to watch my boys fly through a hurricane!

vid
Sep 29, 2011, 12:49 AM
Many people who work in Thunder Bay's downtowns run to the suburbs at 5pm (pretty much everything shuts down at the same time and all the people disappear; it can be quite eerie). It's part of the reason there is so much crime there; no one to see and report it. Cameras aren't as good a crime deterrent as actual, law-abiding people being present.

As long as you're not irresponsible, and are aware of what is going on around you, it isn't particularly dangerous. There are some interesting people there but in my experience they're harmless. Most people who get "randomly attacked" downtown do so because they somehow provoked one of the crazies.

The more dangerous areas are suburban big box areas and the parks along the fringes of the city near social housing developments. I rarely feel safe when I am near Walmart. It's the only place in the city where I've ever been threatened with violence by a stranger.

rrskylar
Sep 29, 2011, 3:51 AM
Is downtown Winnipeg pretty sketchy at night then? I've never been to the city, but I'm guessing most people evacuate back to the surrounding neighbourhoods after work.

It's not downtown Winnipeg where the murderers are committed or much of the crime. Most of all crime occurs in the city's infamous North End.

North of 49
Sep 29, 2011, 4:32 AM
Sick and tired of these perceptions that dt winnipeg is hell...get the facts folks. It's no worse than any other downtown in Canada.

Marty_Mcfly
Oct 1, 2011, 2:44 PM
Homicide number three for St. John's early this morning. Quite the frightening scene from what I've been told from a friend who lives in the neighborhood.

UPDATE: Shooting victim dies from injuries
Murder charge expected to be laid against man

A woman has died in hospital from apparent gunshot wounds following an early morning incident in St. John’s.

The 34-year-old man arrested for the alleged shooting — following a four-hour armed standoff — is also in hospital and is expected to be charged with murder.

Provincial court was told this morning that the man will likely be in hospital overnight and is unable to be transported to court today. The charges will likely be read to him by a judge this afternoon via telephone from court.
The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary responded to a report of a physical altercation on Boggy Hall Place in the Topsail Road area of St. John’s about 1 a.m. this morning.

Witnesses in the area reported hearing gunshots and stated that a woman was lying on the roadway in need of medical attention.

The woman was located and transported to hospital in critical condition, while the armed male suspect had retreated to a home.

The RNC evacuated several homeowners in the immediate area and closed Topsail Road from Columbus Drive to Colville Street.

RNC crisis negotiators established and maintained communication with the armed man for four hours and at about 5:30 a.m., the RNC Tactics and Rescue Unit used tactical manoeuvres to apprehend the armed man without incident.

The firearm has since been recovered by RNC officers and the suspect is in custody.

Forensic identification officers are currently conducting a forensic examination of the scene requiring Topsail Road, from Forbes Street to Road De Luxe, to remain closed until further notice.

RNC patrol services, forensic identification, major crime, K-9 officers, crisis negotiators and the Tactics and Rescue Unit (TRU) had all responded to the scene.

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2011-10-01/article-2764659/UPDATE%3A-Shooting-victim-dies-from-injuries/1

suburbanite
Oct 1, 2011, 5:45 PM
Sick and tired of these perceptions that dt winnipeg is hell...get the facts folks. It's no worse than any other downtown in Canada.

I only ask because on that map that was posted it looked like at least 3 murders were committed pretty close to downtown.

LFRENCH
Oct 1, 2011, 8:15 PM
Hopefully with 2 years murder free, some people will stop thinking that Windsor is somehow like Detroit because we share a border. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Same thing happens in the US. Recently I have been thinking about moving back to the US for work. I have been looking into El Paso TX, which I have family ties to. Either way it has gone nearly two years without a murder despite the mexican side seeing a average of 38 per night or something crazy like that.

Ayreonaut
Oct 1, 2011, 9:10 PM
Yeah, El Paso has a very low murder (and I believe crime in general) rate.

Symz
Oct 2, 2011, 2:08 AM
So Winnipeg was on the news tonight. I never knew that Winnipeg is the homicide capital of the country. I swear sometimes i would think that it's Surrey. I think the news said Winnipeg is or is on the way for setting a new record for homicides in 1 year. They did also say that crime in the downtown only represents 5% of that crime. Still it seems like scary stuff.

vid
Oct 2, 2011, 3:43 PM
So Winnipeg was on the news tonight. I never knew that Winnipeg is the homicide capital of the country. I swear sometimes i would think that it's Surrey.

Metro Vancouver has gang violence. Winnipeg has "gang" violence (as in, "aww, that group of natives thinks its a gang!") and domestic violence. Vancouver is probably more dangerous for bystanders (but still, on a global scale, still a very safe city). Winnipeg is typically only dangerous if you're an impoverished drug addict. Most of the victims have been people caught up in drug addiction, or in troubled relationships. Most murders in Thunder Bay (which has nearly identical demographics to Winnipeg, but on a smaller scale) are committed by spouses against their partners, or between two close friends, and almost always occur in private homes, or in front of them. Bystanders are rarely involved although there is the occasional tragedy. In Thunder Bay, about 90% of crime happens at 5% of addresses. While the crime rate is high, it is also extremely concentrated. Most people are in no danger. Some neighborhoods here have virtually no crime at all. Winnipeg is the same way.

I think the news said Winnipeg is or is on the way for setting a new record for homicides in 1 year.

Yes, it is. One case was a drug addict killing five people when she burned down a crack house after getting bad meth, but even discounting that it is still unusually high.

They did also say that crime in the downtown only represents 5% of that crime. Still it seems like scary stuff.

Crime in the North End represents about 80% of it. Almost all of those murders have happened within a two square kilometre area. Something like four were on the same block.

Overall, Winnipeg is a very safe city. It just has a neighbourhood with a very high crime rate that casts a shadow over everything.

Calgarian
Oct 3, 2011, 2:09 PM
A guy was murdered in front of a Shisha lounge just off 17th Ave early Sunday morning, right in front of my gf's office. Scary shit!

That's 6 for Calgary this year I believe.

vid
Oct 4, 2011, 1:51 AM
Not officially a homicide, but a 60-year-old woman was killed yesterday after a man driving a stolen truck (still at-large) t-boned her car. Her husband is in hospital in critical condition.

http://www.tbnewswatch.com/news/Default.aspx?cid=166954

Cre47
Oct 12, 2011, 10:37 PM
Gatineau at 4, in the last one, a pumpkin was used as the crime weapon

Jarrod
Oct 13, 2011, 6:28 AM
Edmonton is currently at 40 murders and potentially (most likely) 42 after a SUV was found with 2 bodies in it and bullet holes.

We broke our record of 39.

Winnipegger@Heart
Oct 15, 2011, 1:54 PM
#43

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/10/14/another-man-gunned-down

Darkoshvilli
Oct 22, 2011, 7:43 PM
Montreal has 30 down from 33 last year.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/dies+stab+wounds/5592476/story.html

MTLskyline
Oct 23, 2011, 5:46 PM
SWAT team called in Longueuil last night, 12 hour standoff, 30 people evacuated, one homicide.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Cops+come+Longueuil+standoff/5594418/story.html

Not sure how many homicides there have been on Longueuil territory this year.

drizzo_613
Oct 23, 2011, 9:27 PM
1 more for Ottawa-Gatineau Metro.
7yr old girl strangled, Mother tries to take her own life.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/10/22/girl-7-dead-in-chelsea

The_Architect
Oct 23, 2011, 10:08 PM
According to CBC we have 39 right now.

http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/features/homicide2011/

PhilippeMtl
Oct 25, 2011, 11:50 AM
Montreal is at 31 after a influent mafiosi was killed yesterday evening..

sorry, the article is in french
http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/societe/archives/2011/10/20111025-045138.html

north 42
Oct 25, 2011, 3:24 PM
Still over 2 years murder free here in Windsor.

New study out now that measures crime in Canadian municipalities with over 10,000 people, finds 5 of the top 10 safest cities and towns are located right here in Essex County! Pretty impressive considering Detroit is less than half an hour away. :cheers:

drew
Oct 25, 2011, 3:31 PM
Pretty impressive considering Detroit is less than half an hour away. :cheers:

I suppose. But it is also separated by an international border, and of course in a different country, so I think the comparison is shaky at best.

Sorta like the cities on either side of the US and Mexico borders... just a slight difference in crime rates...

north 42
Oct 25, 2011, 4:04 PM
^ Impressive in that 5 of the top 10 in all of Canada were in our county alone (which is very impressive) The fact that our neighbour Detroit is so close is secondary.

vid
Oct 25, 2011, 10:35 PM
The demographic history of Detroit is very different from Windsor, even though they're just across the river. You can't really compare the two.

Calgarian
Oct 25, 2011, 11:26 PM
#43

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/10/14/another-man-gunned-down

What is going on in Edmonton? they are setting a record high and we might have a record low (in recent history anyway, Calgary is at 6 or 7 right now).

drizzo_613
Oct 27, 2011, 2:08 AM
2 more for Ottawa-Gatineau Metro

Two Killed in Shooting at Gloucester Centre: Citizen
Lauren Davis with Phil Gaudreau
Wednesday, October 26, 2011

Police are investigating a shooting at Gloucester Centre around 8:30 this evening.

According to the Ottawa Citizen, two people have been killed, but police will only confirm two have been taken to hospital.

Officers confirm they have no one in custody.

If you've seen anything suspicious in the Blair and Ogilvie Road area this evening, you're asked to call police.

caltrane74
Oct 27, 2011, 12:29 PM
Ottawa is so gangster!

Sick yo!

drizzo_613
Oct 27, 2011, 1:20 PM
Ottawa is so gangster!

Sick yo!

Oh yeah, I'm scared to walk the streets out here [/s]

Anyway, here's the updated report.
One was shot in the head,the other in the mouth.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Salon+owner+killed+Gloucester+Centre+shooting/5612229/story.html

O-Town Hockey
Oct 27, 2011, 1:22 PM
Ottawa is so gangster!

Sick yo!

I'm moving to Winnipeg

Acajack
Oct 27, 2011, 1:23 PM
I suppose. But it is also separated by an international border, and of course in a different country, so I think the comparison is shaky at best.

Sorta like the cities on either side of the US and Mexico borders... just a slight difference in crime rates...

Real good point. El Paso, Texas has one of the lowest murder rates in all of the U.S., yet Ciudad Juarez across the river is probably the murder capital of the entire world.

caltrane74
Oct 27, 2011, 1:25 PM
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.....

Rusty van Reddick
Oct 27, 2011, 2:47 PM
Of course you can "compare" Windsor and Detroit- in fact it's absolutely enlightening and even essential at understanding the vital differences between the US and Canada, particularly to shut up the morons who insist that the two countries are the same. Detroit and Windsor have a lot in common and anybody who insists that crime in the US is about class and not race has to confront the examples of both cities. Race, racism, and race politics are the Leitmotifs of American history and Detroit vs Windsor is a great opportunity to witness that history- and the history of Canada too. You can and should "compare" Detroit proper to the murder rates of its vastly white suburbs. Windsor isn't monolithically white but the richest of Detroit's suburbs are. We learn nothing about murder without confronting and problematizing these comparisons.

And yes there are very few murders in El Paso- it's one of the lowest rates in the Americas among major cities in fact- but DOZENS of El Paseños are murdered in Juarez. Very different situation from that in Windsor.

Tarsus
Oct 27, 2011, 2:52 PM
What is going on in Edmonton? they are setting a record high and we might have a record low (in recent history anyway, Calgary is at 6 or 7 right now).

Been lots of gang activity in Edmonton. They're going through the stuff Calgary went through in past years.

Tarsus
Oct 27, 2011, 2:54 PM
I'm curious to what the actual numbers are for all the cities over 500k. This is what it looks like so far.

Edmonton 43
Toronto 39
Montreal 31
Vancouver ?
Winnipeg ?
Ottawa 9
Calgary 6
Hamilton ?
Quebec ?

drizzo_613
Oct 27, 2011, 4:45 PM
^^
Are those metro area numbers? like GTA for instance. Just curious

Vaillant
Oct 27, 2011, 9:23 PM
^^
Are those metro area numbers? like GTA for instance. Just curious

i think it's only the city at least for Montreal is only the island of Montreal

vid
Oct 28, 2011, 1:34 AM
Of course you can "compare" Windsor and Detroit- in fact it's absolutely enlightening and even essential at understanding the vital differences between the US and Canada, particularly to shut up the morons who insist that the two countries are the same. Detroit and Windsor have a lot in common and anybody who insists that crime in the US is about class and not race has to confront the examples of both cities. Race, racism, and race politics are the Leitmotifs of American history and Detroit vs Windsor is a great opportunity to witness that history- and the history of Canada too.

If you're focusing on racial issues, a better comparison would be Detroit vs. the Central/West Canadian cities with large aboriginal populations.

JuelzJones
Oct 28, 2011, 4:09 AM
Toronto is at 40, looks like Toronto could end up with a record low since the early 80's.

Rusty van Reddick
Oct 28, 2011, 6:42 PM
If you're focusing on racial issues, a better comparison would be Detroit vs. the Central/West Canadian cities with large aboriginal populations.

None of which have murder rates remotely near Detroit's.

caltrane74
Oct 28, 2011, 6:45 PM
Ottawa is so gangsta! _ It's still blowing my mind away.

Blitz
Oct 28, 2011, 9:46 PM
Of course you can "compare" Windsor and Detroit- in fact it's absolutely enlightening and even essential at understanding the vital differences between the US and Canada, particularly to shut up the morons who insist that the two countries are the same. Detroit and Windsor have a lot in common and anybody who insists that crime in the US is about class and not race has to confront the examples of both cities. Race, racism, and race politics are the Leitmotifs of American history and Detroit vs Windsor is a great opportunity to witness that history- and the history of Canada too. You can and should "compare" Detroit proper to the murder rates of its vastly white suburbs. Windsor isn't monolithically white but the richest of Detroit's suburbs are. We learn nothing about murder without confronting and problematizing these comparisons.

And yes there are very few murders in El Paso- it's one of the lowest rates in the Americas among major cities in fact- but DOZENS of El Paseños are murdered in Juarez. Very different situation from that in Windsor.


That's a different way of looking at it but either way, it's a weird situation.....

If you only compare Detroit to US cities, it nearly has the highest rate. If you only compare Windsor to Canadian cities, it has the lowest rate. So what are the odds that those two rates would be found in cities located 1 km apart? It's the same situation in Juarez/El Paso, it's just strange when you think about it.

Impressive in that 5 of the top 10 safest towns in all of Canada were in Essex County alone (which is very impressive). The fact that our neighbour Detroit is so close is secondary.

It's definitely great news, and there's no real explanation for that either. But it's something that metro Windsor can use to keep luring those retirees!

People on SSP are more educated but the average Canadian still has inaccurate preconceived notions about Windsor just because of our neighbour. Any news like this helps.

vid
Oct 28, 2011, 10:28 PM
None of which have murder rates remotely near Detroit's.

They're still high compared to other Canadian cities, just like Detroit's is high compared to other American cities.

chrisallard5454
Oct 30, 2011, 5:07 AM
Man Shot in the Exchange District at 2am. This shooting ends a really impressive streak for any city in terms of length without a homicide. Winnipeg's last homicide was over a month ago. But unfortunately this brings us one closer to tying our record for homicides in a year. And with a man lying in critical condition after a shooting on Selkirk it isn't looking good.

Neighbourhood Perspective:

North Central Winnipeg:
North Point Douglas (Pop. 2 225) = 7
Centennial (Pop. 2 225) = 1
Total (Pop. 4 450) = 8

North End:
Lord Selkirk Park (Pop. 1 365) = 3
William Whyte (Pop. 6 220) = 2
Dufferin (Pop. 2 090) = 1
St. Johns (Pop. 7 725) = 2
Total (Pop. 17 400) = 8

Downtown:
Portage-Ellice (Pop 1 105) = 3
Central Park (Pop 3 555) = 2
Exchange Dist. (Pop 420) = 3
Total (Pop. 5080) = 8

South Winnipeg:
River-Osbourne (Pop. 4 880) = 2
Fort Richmond (Pop. 11 610) = 1
Munroe East (Pop 8 460) = 1
Niakwa Place (Pop. 2 385) = 1
Total (Pop. 27 335) = 5

West End:
Daniel Mcintyre (Pop. 9 750) = 2
St. Mathews (Pop. 5 575) = 1
Total (Pop. 15 325) = 3

North East Winnipeg:
Beaumont (Pop. 2 360) = 1
Total (Pop. 2 360) = 1

This date:
Winnipeg (Pop. 693 200) = 33
Winnipeg (2010) = 21
Winnipeg (2009) = 25

Wharn
Oct 30, 2011, 5:47 PM
London stands at 1.8 per 100,000 for 2010. If Windsor can do zero we ought to be able to as well. Last year and this year there have also been plenty of violent crimes, including one where a couple of people were beaten on Thanksgiving and left for dead in the city's East End. Windsorites have had just as hard a time as Londoners, so high unemployment rates are no excuse, these are just scum with no civic pride.

Here is a handy map from the Glob&Fail, forgive me if it's a repost. Note that Nunavut has the highest crime rate in the country:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/map-where-canadas-homicide-rate-is-highest-and-lowest-2010/article2214149/

Marty_Mcfly
Oct 30, 2011, 7:07 PM
The population is so low in Nunavut, any amount of crime is going to put the crime rate per capita through the roof.

St. John's homicide rate is probably sitting somewhere around 1.5 per 100,000 people at the moment, the second highest on record, though still quite low. A close call last week with a drug shooting downtown, would have been the fourth homicide of the year.

rrskylar
Oct 31, 2011, 4:14 AM
Winnipeg now at a record 34 (tied with 2004).

vid
Nov 1, 2011, 2:23 AM
Thunder Bay is now at three. (http://www.tbnewswatch.com/news/Default.aspx?cid=171886&catid=1) This is half of the rate in 2009 but still above average. I don't know stats for the region but it is lower than previous years. (It was 12 / 250,000 in 2009.)

It occurred in a social housing development, the victim (21) and the accused (22) were friends who had been drinking on Saturday and somehow got into a fight that led to injuries resulting in death on Sunday night.

Also, the first homicide of this year, involving four youths (one who has since died in jail) who killed a 54 year old man in January, has hit a snag (http://www.tbnewswatch.com/news/171991/Murder-case-may-hit-snag-as-suspect-seeks-new-lawyer) as one of the suspects seeks a new lawyer.

After my uncle was killed several years ago, it took about two years for the murder trial to work its way through the courts. We recently wrapped up a murder trial involving a murder that happened in the 1990s...

devonb
Nov 1, 2011, 2:32 AM
Calgary had its seventh homicide this last weekend.

chrisallard5454
Nov 1, 2011, 12:14 PM
Winnipeg Reaches Record high with North End Shooting at McPhillips Hotel. This puts the city at 34 homicides this year. This is the second shooting death in two days. One shooting death in The North End on Saturday, and one on Sunday. That is also three shootings in two days, two of which in the North End. as one man still lies in critical condition, from a Lord Selkirk Park Shooting.

Map of Homicides:
http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/homicides/

Note that the majority of the killings occur in one region of the city. While three quarters of the map is virtually homicide free.

Neighbourhood Perspective:

North End:
Lord Selkirk Park (Pop. 1 365) = 3
William Whyte (Pop. 6 220) = 2
Dufferin (Pop. 2 090) = 1
St. Johns (Pop. 7 725) = 2
Robertson (Pop. 4 205) = 1
Total (Pop. 21 605) = 9

North Central Winnipeg:
North Point Douglas (Pop. 2 225) = 7
Centennial (Pop. 2 225) = 1
Total (Pop. 4 450) = 8

Downtown:
Portage-Ellice (Pop 1 105) = 3
Central Park (Pop 3 555) = 2
Exchange Dist. (Pop 420) = 3
Total (Pop. 5080) = 8

South Winnipeg:
River-Osbourne (Pop. 4 880) = 2
Fort Richmond (Pop. 11 610) = 1
Munroe East (Pop 8 460) = 1
Niakwa Place (Pop. 2 385) = 1
Total (Pop. 27 335) = 5

West End:
Daniel Mcintyre (Pop. 9 750) = 2
St. Mathews (Pop. 5 575) = 1
Total (Pop. 15 325) = 3

North East Winnipeg:
Beaumont (Pop. 2 360) = 1
Total (Pop. 2 360) = 1

This date:
Winnipeg (Pop. 693 200) = 34
Winnipeg (2010) = 21
Winnipeg (2009) = 25

rapid_business
Nov 1, 2011, 2:05 PM
/\ Sure. Just like the majority of social assistance services can be found in one area of a city. It isn't really much to say it is restricted to one geographic area. Yes it means less affluent people are killing each other, but that is a pretty general stat across the board in Canadian cities.

Acajack
Nov 1, 2011, 2:53 PM
The population is so low in Nunavut, any amount of crime is going to put the crime rate per capita through the roof.



Yes and no. Many very small communities in Nunavut have a lot of social problems and can be violent. Nunavut pretty consistently has between 4 and 6 murders a year for a population of 33,000. It's not really a case like when you have the first murder in 50 years in a small town and it puts its per capita murder rate through the roof for that single year.

PEI has 140,000 people and consistently reports 0, 1 or 2 murders per year.

NL has 500,000 people and murders are typically much less than 10, usually less than 5 and some years there are none.

MTLskyline
Nov 4, 2011, 11:15 PM
A double-homicide in Longueuil early this morning. #3 and #4 if I am not mistaken.

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111104/mtl_deaths_111104/20111104/?hub=MontrealHome

MTLskyline
Nov 8, 2011, 11:52 PM
Two men were found dead in apartment above a strip club in Longueuil... Their deaths are being treated as suspicious.

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111108/mtl_longueuil_111108/20111108/?hub=MontrealHome

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2011/11/08/li-southshorebodies-620.jpg
(google streetview)

vid
Nov 9, 2011, 2:30 AM
Wow, I thought the strip club in Thunder Bay was dumpy...

PhilippeMtl
Nov 11, 2011, 1:21 AM
Longueuil agglomeration ( Pop: 403 000) is now at 6

(http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/societe/archives/2011/11/20111110-174442.html)

All of them happened in Old Longueuil borough except the one in Brossard earlier this summer

Rico Rommheim
Nov 11, 2011, 8:25 AM
Wow, I thought the strip club in Thunder Bay was dumpy...

Longueuil makes Thunder bay look like Naples. I know this because I've been to both places.

Darkoshvilli
Nov 12, 2011, 3:44 PM
Montreal at 33 after two men were set on fire in St-Henri.

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111111/mtl_fire_111111/20111111/?hub=MontrealHome

Cre47
Nov 12, 2011, 6:29 PM
One of them was a hip-hop music producer that is quite known locally.

http://tvanouvelles.ca/lcn/infos/faitsdivers/archives/2011/11/20111111-205839.html

Darkoshvilli
Nov 12, 2011, 6:34 PM
To go to the lengths of setting someone on fire...Don't these people have guns?

Cre47
Nov 13, 2011, 3:19 PM
Probably.

Anyways Ottawa got its 10th early this morning with a shooting in Barrhaven. This is the first murder in Barrhaven since the Teague kidnapping/murder back in 2005.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/dies+gunshot+wounds+Barrhaven+early+Sunday/5703783/story.html

trebor204
Nov 13, 2011, 6:52 PM
Winnipeg has broken a record with 35.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Winnipeg-hits-record-number-of-murders-in-a-year-133769603.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2011/11/13/winnipeg-homicide-fire-carlton.html

chrisallard5454
Nov 14, 2011, 9:11 PM
A man has died from burn injuries. This is Winnipeg's 35th homicide, which is now more than Winnipeg has ever had.

Neighbourhood Perspective:

http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/homicides/

North End:
Lord Selkirk Park (Pop. 1 365) = 3
William Whyte (Pop. 6 220) = 2
Dufferin (Pop. 2 090) = 1
St. Johns (Pop. 7 725) = 2
Robertson (Pop. 4 205) = 1
Total (Pop. 21 605) = 9

Downtown:
Portage-Ellice (Pop 1 105) = 3
Central Park (Pop 3 555) = 3
Exchange Dist. (Pop 420) = 3
Total (Pop. 5080) = 9

North Central Winnipeg:
North Point Douglas (Pop. 2 225) = 7
Centennial (Pop. 2 225) = 1
Total (Pop. 4 450) = 8

South Winnipeg:
River-Osbourne (Pop. 4 880) = 2
Fort Richmond (Pop. 11 610) = 1
Munroe East (Pop 8 460) = 1
Niakwa Place (Pop. 2 385) = 1
Total (Pop. 27 335) = 5

West End:
Daniel Mcintyre (Pop. 9 750) = 2
St. Mathews (Pop. 5 575) = 1
Total (Pop. 15 325) = 3

North East Winnipeg:
Beaumont (Pop. 2 360) = 1
Total (Pop. 2 360) = 1

This date:
Winnipeg (Pop. 693 200) = 35
Winnipeg (2010) = 22
Winnipeg (2009) = 25

GORDBO
Nov 15, 2011, 12:18 AM
On the local news tonight, they showed Quebec city at 2 homicides for the year. That sounds low, They also showed the population at 500,000. I'm assuming thats 2 homicides for Quebec city proper. Is that correct? that still sounds low for a total. This is according to Global news in Winnipeg.

Tone
Nov 15, 2011, 12:54 AM
^Yes, 500,000 is for the city proper (750,000 for the metro). Two murders sounds about right, the first one was only in june.

Believe it or not, 2007 was murder free for the whole Quebec city area!

vid
Nov 15, 2011, 1:19 AM
Quebec City is 650,000 middle class white people. Winnipeg has 65,000 impoverished minorities. Kind of a different situation. Mais juste un petit peu. :rolleyes:

Darkoshvilli
Nov 15, 2011, 2:01 AM
Quebec City is 650,000 middle class white people. Winnipeg has 65,000 impoverished minorities. Kind of a different situation. Mais juste un petit peu. :rolleyes:

Nobody compared Quebec to Winnipeg.

vid
Nov 15, 2011, 2:08 AM
Global News did, by mentioning it in an article about the record homicides in Winnipeg.

Darkoshvilli
Nov 15, 2011, 2:50 AM
Global News did, by mentioning it in an article about the record homicides in Winnipeg.

Ah, should have read the article...

PhilippeMtl
Nov 15, 2011, 8:54 PM
No homicide for Montreal police in the last 24 hours but 3 in the burbs ( Repentigny, Valleyfield and Otterburn Park).

mr.John
Nov 15, 2011, 9:43 PM
To go to the lengths of setting someone on fire...Don't these people have guns?

probably trying to send a message... this is what happens when you don't pay what you owe, you mess with the wrong people you get burnt

-Harlington-
Nov 20, 2011, 11:23 PM
I believe this puts Halifax at 14

EDIT: The number is now 15




Shubie Park death ruled homicide

CBC News
Posted: Nov 20, 2011 5:02 PM AT
Last Updated: Nov 20, 2011 5:01 PM AT

Police ask for public's help in suspicious death

The death of a woman found in Shubie Park Saturday has been ruled a homicide by Halifax police.

The woman has been identified as 27-year-old Christina Kathleen Cline of Dartmouth. She was also known to go by the name Christine.

A man walking in an area of Shubie Park called Vivian’s Way, discovered the woman’s body and contacted police just before 11 a.m. Saturday.

Police met with the man who took officers to the location of the woman’s body.

The woman's van, initially missing, was found in Dartmouth at 7:35 p.m. Saturday and has been seized by police as part of the investigation.

Police are asking that anyone with information about this homicide or Cline's whereabouts on Friday to contact police or Crime Stoppers.




There was another suspicious death earlier today, its been awhile for Halifax though.

EDIT: the death mentioned above was ruled a murder :

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/11/20/ns-suspicious-death-elderly-man.html

Spoolmak
Nov 21, 2011, 5:38 AM
No one from Vancouver is updating the stats, what are the numbers for Vancouver?

Centropolis
Nov 21, 2011, 5:43 AM
probably trying to send a message... this is what happens when you don't pay what you owe, you mess with the wrong people you get burnt

heheh.

SteelTown
Nov 22, 2011, 2:08 PM
Hamilton has had it's 4th homicide of the year. A dead body was found along the shoulder of a highway.

Biff
Nov 22, 2011, 2:38 PM
Halifax looks like it is having a bad year too. I don't know what the past figures are but comparing it to Winnipeg (my city) it seems fairly similar. Halifax has what, approximately 350,000 people, Winnipeg approximately 700,000. What would be driving the fairly high numbers in Halifax?

.....here we know it is mostly gang related (and our large poverty issues).

-Harlington-
Nov 22, 2011, 6:17 PM
It is fairly high for Halifax although only a few off from previous years so not crazy high.

I think the thing that was more impressive this year was the bad start to the year

pretty much all of the 15 were in the first five or so months of the year,
there was a lot of gun play and drug involvement, which seemed to be the main motives

anything else seemed to be personal disputes, its rare to have a murder be random in here.

Halifax always did have a high crime and violent crime rate per capita though, especially for this part of the country .



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