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Jan 17, 2008, 3:30 PM
Vancouver police want rest of Canada to take their criminals back

Thu Jan 17, 12:30 AM

As many as 2,500 people walking on Vancouver streets are wanted by police agencies in other provinces and an unprecedented effort is under way to get them back to where they allegedly committed their crimes, CBC News has learned.

Vancouver police have made a list of the people wanted on "non-returnable" warrants and officers walking their beats aim to arrest them and ship them back. With such warrants, the issuing jurisdiction is not willing to pay the transportation costs involved in returning suspects for prosecution.

"We'll be able to track their path across the country. It starts out east in the Atlantic provinces, Quebec, Ontario, the Prairies, and you'll see they have warrants in all of these provinces," Const. Steve Addison told CBC News on Wednesday.

The City of Vancouver and the Vancouver Police Department have long known about this problem but it's felt most acutely on the West Coast.

"There are a lot of people that we find especially coming to B.C. for the obvious reason. I mean, it's January and you can basically sleep on the street," Const. Dan Petre told CBC News.

"The other reason is this is the last place in the country they [the wanted people] actually don't have warrants," Addison said.

A study conducted by the Vancouver Police Department's Planning, Research and Audit Section in March 2006 shows more than 90 per cent of the "non-returnables" contacted by police said they knew about the warrant for their arrest and 36 per cent admitted to leaving the warrant jurisdiction in order to avoid arrest.

For Petre and Addison, catching these criminals isn't the problem - it's the fact that their home provinces don't want them back.

People wanted on non-returnable warrants often think that being in Vancouver means they won't get arrested and sent back because of the cost involved, Addison said, but Vancouver police are now willing to pay the bill.

Not long after the start of their shift on Tuesday, Petre and Addison found the first name on their list at a seedy hotel in the Downtown Eastside. They were looking for an Adam Croft wanted on several charges in Toronto, the most serious one being assault causing bodily harm.

"It is a small neighbourhood. As you see, people are out and about on the streets. We run into people all the time," Addison said.

"We knew where this fellow lived and we went and checked the registry and he's there. It's just a matter of knocking on the door."

A CBC News reporter and cameraperson went with the officers during the arrest but were not allowed inside the hotel. It didn't take long for the officers to return to say Croft was shocked to learn he was being arrested.

Croft's first reaction was that he's only wanted on non-returnable warrants, Petre said.

"We told him we were going to place him under arrest for a number of warrants in Ontario," Petre said. "We started this new program and try to enforce it and this particular individual that we arrested, he broke down. He was basically distraught."

Vancouver police offered to escort Croft back to Toronto, which would cost about $2,500, Addison said, and Toronto police accepted the offer.

However, a lawyer for Croft told police Wednesday his client decided to plead guilty to all of the charges so there is no longer a need to fly him to Toronto as he will be sentenced in Vancouver. If he's convicted and sentenced to jail, Croft will serve time in B.C.

Vancouver police said they will keep working down their list of people wanted on non-returnable warrants.

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vid
Jan 17, 2008, 5:10 PM
One of my mom's friends from a long time ago (smokes a pound of weed a week and his brain is shot; he's lucky if he can form a coherent sentence most of the time) was heading out there, but said he wouldn't go to Vancouver because he was wanted there. :P So, umm... one down?

KrisYYC
Jan 17, 2008, 6:54 PM
Calgary is facing the same problems as Vancouver. Hordes of Canadian trash showing up with nothing. It'd be interesting to see how many of Calgary's vagrant/criminal population has lived in Calgary for more than 2 years. I'd say less than half.

What pisses me off, are when people from other provinces move here, and then complain that it's too crowded, there's too many homeless people, traffic is bad, blah blah blah. Not realizing that Calgary wasn't like this until every Joe Schmoe started moving here to make some money.

Rico Rommheim
Jan 17, 2008, 7:23 PM
Calgary is facing the same problems as Vancouver. Hordes of Canadian trash showing up with nothing. It'd be interesting to see how many of Calgary's vagrant/criminal population has lived in Calgary for more than 2 years. I'd say less than half.

What pisses me off, are when people from other provinces move here, and then complain that it's too crowded, there's too many homeless people, traffic is bad, blah blah blah. Not realizing that Calgary wasn't like this until every Joe Schmoe started moving here to make some money.

Well now that Calgary is a relatively "big" city, you'll have to learn to deal with it, its a common problem in every booming city complaining about the unavoidable and inevitable won't help. What would you prefer? A small agrarian city known as "cowtown" free of any vagrants and foreigners or a Big up and coming, and prosperous city known as Calgary that has to deal with big city problems?


Rest assured I know what Alberta's going trough, it takes a short walk between the National Car Rental's Downtown edmonton office to jasper Ave to see that there is a problem, or the disgusting Station lands fiasco for that matter. But what I find funny is that people in these cities are shocked to see all these people coming to their town when half of these very same complaing people were'nt here 20 years ago!

KrisYYC
Jan 17, 2008, 9:15 PM
^^ I know it's normal big city growing pains. My beef is with the people who come here just to make money, and then do nothing but complain about everything not realize that much of the cause for whatever they're complaining about is because people moving here at rapid rates.

wild wild west
Jan 17, 2008, 9:19 PM
Well now that Calgary is a relatively "big" city, you'll have to learn to deal with it, its a common problem in every booming city complaining about the unavoidable and inevitable won't help. What would you prefer? A small agrarian city known as "cowtown" free of any vagrants and foreigners or a Big up and coming, and prosperous city known as Calgary that has to deal with big city problems?

Rest assured I know what Alberta's going trough, it takes a short walk between the National Car Rental's Downtown edmonton office to jasper Ave to see that there is a problem, or the disgusting Station lands fiasco for that matter. But what I find funny is that people in these cities are shocked to see all these people coming to their town when half of these very same complaing people were'nt here 20 years ago!

Yes, I agree - rapid growth has a price, you can't have it both ways.

240glt
Jan 17, 2008, 9:21 PM
^ Most of the whining I've heard comes from the longtime residents who do not like the "outsiders" in the city.

What those people fail to realize is that Calgary wouldn't be a fraction of what it is today without all the outside help/

For Cal & Edm, it seems like a lot of the vagrants have come from rural communities in Alberta.

Spocket
Jan 17, 2008, 11:03 PM
^^ I know it's normal big city growing pains. My beef is with the people who come here just to make money, and then do nothing but complain about everything not realize that much of the cause for whatever they're complaining about is because people moving here at rapid rates.

Well , uh, yeah, they moved there for the money. That was the plan wasn't it ? I sympathize but you've got to take the good with the bad. Alberta's rapid population increase isn't the first one in history (even Canada's for that matter) and this is what usually happens. Winnipeg's North End was started pretty much the same way. Not to bring you down of course since it hasn't changed all that much since but if we're going to export our problems then be prepared to get as much extradited back to you.

someone123
Jan 17, 2008, 11:37 PM
But what I find funny is that people in these cities are shocked to see all these people coming to their town when half of these very same complaing people were'nt here 20 years ago!

Many people dislike any kind of change. I bet there were people 100 years ago complaining about how crowded Calgary had become and how it used to be a nice little town. However, everybody lives and works in buildings that at one point were new, most drive cars that at one point were not on the road, etc. At one point they caused the same kind of change that they complain about having to deal with.

ScottFromCalgary
Jan 18, 2008, 5:01 AM
This thread is only going to end in tears.



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