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someone123
01-26-2008, 07:06 PM
Apparently the old management buildings at Dalhousie are being renovated. Does anybody know anything about this?

The plans were created by Fowler Bauld & Mitchell architects but nothing is up on their website.

Jonovision
01-27-2008, 07:14 PM
All I know is that it has been fenced off since the fall.

phrenic
01-27-2008, 07:47 PM
Do you mean this management building?

http://www.library.dal.ca/duasc/buildings/images/Management_OldBuilding_PC1_14.11.jpg
Photo: http://www.library.dal.ca/duasc/buildings/Management.htm

(red brick building on the corner of coburg and le marchant)

It definitely needs to be renovated.

mitchellirons
01-29-2008, 01:53 AM
Dal is set to tear it down and build from scratch on the site - a 4-5 storey structure. The building as it stands now is condemned.

Details can be found in the second half of the text found at:
http://dalnews.dal.ca/2008/01/16/chemstorage.html


http://derivative.wordpress.com

alps
01-30-2008, 12:35 AM
Aww, I like that building. The church portion has a lot of character, and the newer bit is nice and sharp looking, or at least it could be with a bit of fixing up.

kph06
01-30-2008, 12:38 AM
I was walking by here today and one lane of the street was blocked off as they were putting new fenceposts in along the curb, and were in the process of moving the chain link fence out to it. This blocks the sidewalk on that side of the street, so it must mean they are very close to the beginning of demolition. I'll try to take picutes as it comes down.

someone123
01-30-2008, 02:16 AM
I wasn't sure if they were going to try to save the church or just tear the whole thing down.

Those buildings are all pretty awful on the inside.

Keith P.
05-09-2008, 08:00 PM
I went by there today and there was a big crane being set up on the street which tied things up for a while. They needed it because they are dismantling the management building and have removed quite a bit of the upper structure so far. There was another smaller crane on the side of the church and they had a hole in the sidewall near the top. I will try to get some pics. It was actually quite a sight.

Bedford_DJ
10-20-2008, 03:25 AM
So i guess we can now safely say that there is no renovations in the works. I'm not sure what happens to threads that never happen. We can change this into a thread for the new building being built there though.

Keith P.
10-20-2008, 10:48 AM
Someone already posted a rendering of the new Dal management building that will go there last week.

someone123
10-20-2008, 05:50 PM
Here it is:

http://www.dailycommercialnews.com/images/archivesid/30435/130.jpg

Source (http://www.dailycommercialnews.com/article/id30435)

phrenic
10-21-2008, 12:08 AM
These show the scaling:

http://dalnews.dal.ca/2008/07/15/COBURG550-2.jpg

Source (http://dalnews.dal.ca/2008/07/15/bldg.html)

http://dalnews.dal.ca/2008/06/17/MARCHANT-side.jpg

Source (http://dalnews.dal.ca/2008/06/17/meeting.html)

Jonovision
10-21-2008, 03:08 AM
I do really like this building. I question how it will fit in on Coburg street however.
I drove by the site today and it is a very large deep hole into the bedrock.

kph06
12-01-2008, 11:50 AM
I drove by this site today, they have been working on the concrete base and it appears they have installed a bracket for a tower crane, so that should be going up soon.

Barrington south
12-01-2008, 04:15 PM
I'm very excited about this one, and in general I'm really happy with how aggressive Dal' and St Mary's are in regards to planing for the future and actually getting projects off the ground

kph06
12-01-2008, 05:49 PM
I drove by again at lunch and Irving Equipment has a 200 ton mobile crane on site so the tower crane must be going up in the next day or two.

Barrington south
12-01-2008, 05:59 PM
nice

someone123
12-01-2008, 07:54 PM
Will this building have retail? This area could become a kind of "university village" for Dalhousie.

They'll probably also be building replacement residences for Fenwick soon. Not sure where they'd go, aside from maybe the large parking lot between Howe Hall etc. and the Dunn building.

Bedford_DJ
12-01-2008, 08:17 PM
Nice to here :)

I'm curious to know is this just replacements for the current/former administration building? Or is there more involved.

someone123
12-01-2008, 08:39 PM
Alan Ruffman managed to get in a long complaint on the comments page here: http://dalnews.dal.ca/2008/07/15/bldg.html

:rolleyes:

Keith P.
12-01-2008, 10:05 PM
What a shock. The guy is a professional complainer and development gadfly.

worldlyhaligonian
12-01-2008, 10:24 PM
Seriously, this guy is devoted to complaining about any and all development.

What a dick.

Barrington south
12-01-2008, 10:51 PM
and this fellow "Gus Gassmann" is not impressed at all! "it looks like a mobile home that has not been unloaded from the trailer yet....Ugly" man, everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but to slam a building that bad is harsh, unless he is some sort of architectural super genius, in which case I hope he joins this forum, and enlightens us all :haha:

worldlyhaligonian
12-02-2008, 10:09 PM
This new building is wayyy more attractive/modern than that church building hybrid.

kph06
12-03-2008, 06:16 PM
Cranes up, looks like its the one that put up St James place. They have started laying out the reinforcement for the basement footings.

Barrington south
12-03-2008, 06:56 PM
very nice

JET
12-04-2008, 03:37 PM
In post #3 the picture shows a house to the east of the "church'. In post #12 the house is not there. Was it demolished for this building? It would be a shame. The new building is ugly. JET

worldlyhaligonian
12-04-2008, 04:51 PM
I hope it was demolished... it ruined that part of the streetscape.

I don't think the new building is ugly at all... its modernity helps balance the old and new structures in the area and makes Coburg seem more coherent as it empties into the height of SGR.

Barrington south
12-05-2008, 01:14 AM
JET, I have to seriously disagree with your assessment of the coburg Dal development. With sub par development's like Armoury Square and St. James Place being built and ugly, cheap projects like Courtyard Marriott and spice being thrown up, I find it hard to believe you are opposed to this project. This is exactly the type of building Halifax has, for the most part, missed out on over the last 8 years. I'm not claiming it is the be all and end all of development. It is however the type of medium sized structure that Toronto, or any other progressive western city has seen be built on so regularly a basis that it would hardly merit mention. In Halifax however, we desperately need well built, modern buildings such as this. And for that reason I am glad that rinky dinky little house has been erased from the urban landscape. and it also pleases me that Dal is forging ahead in these uncertain times

worldlyhaligonian
12-05-2008, 02:01 AM
Totally, that is an inarguable fact. Halifax has seen low quality low rise for the most part due to special interest groups intervening in most cases high quality, but often taller, developments that are seen as more risky. High quality low rise like this is great and reminds me of some of the amazing U of T buildings around Bloor.

I think that house would have looked terrible sandwiched between the store further down the street and the development. The tower across the street boxes everything in nicely, and both it and this new development have urban landscapes on their Cogburg facing sides. Its a nice introduction from the Dal area to SGR and Robie.

someone123
12-05-2008, 08:47 AM
This is a nice, modern building and that house was nothing special. There are many other houses in the area that are much nicer. The area bounded by Coburg, Oxford, Robie, and Quinpool has tons of great buildings that are fairly well-protected (though something needs to be done about that empty lot next to the Holiday Inn on Robie). The long-term goal should be to save the architectural highlights and replace middling buildings with new buildings of high quality.

And yes, I'd love to see lots of modern, mid-scale buildings like this go up. W Suites was pretty close in terms of scale and uses but fell short design-wise. The McCully Worklofts look great. The proposal for Kaye Street also looks pretty good. In general, I think we can expect more of this in the future. The North End needs a few dozen of these buildings.

JET
12-05-2008, 12:18 PM
It was a nice old building and there are lots of ways to encorporate the old with the new; when there is a will. Everytime an old house is razed, it becomes more difficult to say that "there are many other houses in the area that are much nicer". But I realize that on this forum that argument holds little sway. The houses that will remain beside the trillium will look out of place, or conversely so will the trillium; but they can exist in harmony side by side. Maybe that house wasn't anything special; but if it was (in the eye of the beholder), it certainly isn't anymore. JET

Bedford_DJ
12-14-2008, 05:58 PM
So have they got the basement poured yet?

kph06
12-15-2008, 12:07 AM
They are still pouring the footings.

Bedford_DJ
01-05-2009, 09:46 PM
http://thechronicleherald.ca/photos/xlarge/01-05-09_jh122908weekly.jpg
Source: Chronicle Herald Article (http://thechronicleherald.ca/HCW/1099053.html)

Bedford_DJ
02-28-2009, 05:13 PM
I was by this today. They have the entire foundation poured and there were a few footings in place for the first above ground level.

On a side note the new sign for Dalhousie down on University Ave looks okay IMO. It could be a lot worse.

Bedford_DJ
03-14-2009, 07:11 PM
I was by this again today. Sorry no pictures for this one by I can say the entire basement is poured and all of the support columns are in place.

Bedford_DJ
03-19-2009, 10:19 PM
Picture time. I'll have to talk to my girlfriend to see if I can get the picture of the construction workers posing for us. :)

All photos taken by me today;

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/3369120288_7fce99041b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3615/3368293375_242a23f4d7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3455/3369117652_6a37523424_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3368294273_f66032d1fc_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/3369121030_46f64e4c3a_b.jpg

Bedford_DJ
05-03-2009, 03:37 PM
No pictures this time but the last time I was by this they seemed to have a lot of the columns in place for the walls of the first floor and they apeared to be extending the foundation down on the Robie Street side.

Bedford_DJ
06-19-2009, 09:54 PM
As always all photos by me today;

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3642484406_d7ac61ba8a_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3651/3642484416_fbc3975da1_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2450/3642484426_8424647cfe_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2472/3642484446_7dc14aea78_b.jpg

Jonovision
08-21-2009, 01:41 AM
Aug 20/09


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Barrington south
08-21-2009, 01:58 AM
F*uck..it's been forever since we had an update on this.....it's looking wicked......thanks jono.....all the attention has been on life sciences .....and this is soooo much more sexy....nice!!

HaliStreaks
08-21-2009, 02:34 AM
Actually this evening, I had a little time to take a run up to the overpass of Mt Hope Ave. into Russell Lake West over the circ and took the oppourtunity to look over and examine the skyline from there for a few minutes, and it's awesome, you can see this crane barely poking through buildings, same with the life sciences crane, and the Trillium's crane not too far apart in from that perspective, and I must say, it looks good :P

City_of_Lakes
08-30-2009, 03:59 PM
Actually this evening, I had a little time to take a run up to the overpass of Mt Hope Ave. into Russell Lake West over the circ and took the oppourtunity to look over and examine the skyline from there for a few minutes, and it's awesome, you can see this crane barely poking through buildings, same with the life sciences crane, and the Trillium's crane not too far apart in from that perspective, and I must say, it looks good :P

that overpass has an amazing view! i used to live in the Portlant Estates area, and was attending NSCC Waterfront Campus, so I drove over it every day. Check it out on a clear night too, it's awesome

Jonovision
10-15-2009, 06:54 PM
The crane came down for this last week.

Bedford_DJ
10-23-2009, 08:08 PM
From today;

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3484/4038169846_39643c86ea_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2498/4038171680_dca4523012_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2556/4038173498_f7799bfb7a_b.jpg

spaustin
10-23-2009, 09:36 PM
Would be nice to have the powerlines buried in front of Dal's sleek new modern building. Anyone know if that's in the plan?

Bedford_DJ
11-16-2009, 08:12 PM
November Phototour - November 16, 2009;

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2655/4109675293_f0a59697e3_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2721/4110434322_d6ac0d61be_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2513/4110436298_51b5e3635d_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/4110448598_14ca70d522_b.jpg

Bedford_DJ
12-20-2009, 07:47 PM
Has anybody been around this area lately?

-Harlington-
12-20-2009, 10:33 PM
i have been near here on the bus, but it was dark.
i tried to see as much as i could, and it looked to me like a lot, if not most of the exterior was done.

ScovaNotian
12-20-2009, 11:12 PM
It's not the best angle, but a live view is here: http://fm.dal.ca/nab/live_view.php.

mcmcclassic
12-21-2009, 09:30 PM
Not much has changed on the outside since the the above pictures (the November ones) were taken. I walk by this project frequently and they've been doing a lot of work on the inner structure.

beyeas
12-22-2009, 04:37 PM
Yeah I walk by this every day, and ever since they basically got it weather-tight(ish) they have been focussing on the inside. I am a bit surprised that they have not tried to get it all closed up completely before the snow came, but oh well. I will be very curious to see how it looks with the final touches on the cladding.

Bedford_DJ
12-22-2009, 07:32 PM
I actually drove by this today and the ground floor seems to be wrapped in glass and sealed tight.

Still some work to do though.

worldlyhaligonian
12-31-2009, 02:50 AM
Credit: Spacing Magazine on Flickr
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4226070960_9af2776aec_b.jpg

Bedford_DJ
12-31-2009, 10:20 PM
From this afternoon;

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2725/4232457196_d3fe3e8ea0_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4004/4231690425_e9fdd3478a_b.jpg

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2534/4232464342_1a570364d7_b.jpg

mcmcclassic
02-10-2010, 02:10 AM
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4087/sdc14185.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/sdc14185.jpg/)

Glass is up on the side facing LeMarchant St. I think it looks really good.

Dr SweetLove
02-10-2010, 04:01 AM
Mnnnn dw fake cinder block look is not esactly awe-inspirering
the new glass does look good tho, I should nowm cus my taste is killer:cool:

worldlyhaligonian
02-10-2010, 05:32 AM
I think it looks pretty damn good... a better building to have on Coburg than the other developments Dal has put up.

Empire
02-10-2010, 12:50 PM
Mnnnn dw fake cinder block look is not esactly awe-inspirering
the new glass does look good tho, I should nowm cus my taste is killer:cool:

Developers in HFX are getting away with one by using plain cheap concrete block as a finish material. It doesn't work! It looks cheap and is cheap. The flyash in the concrete block will weep and stain the blocks with a whiteish mark much like salt stains. I think it should be addressed but again no one is home to notice at HRM. There are numerous buildings as examples of this including the ugly Brian MacKay Lyons office on Gottingen. He should know better and probably does $$$$$.

Keith P.
02-10-2010, 07:52 PM
Developers in HFX are getting away with one by using plain cheap concrete block as a finish material. It doesn't work! It looks cheap and is cheap. The flyash in the concrete block will weep and stain the blocks with a whiteish mark much like salt stains. I think it should be addressed but again no one is home to notice at HRM. There are numerous buildings as examples of this including the ugly Brian MacKay Lyons office on Gottingen. He should know better and probably does $$$$$.

Agreed. That finish is ugly and should not be permitted.

fenwick16
02-10-2010, 09:15 PM
I am surprised that they are allowed to use the cement block. Maybe it is considered to be slightly better than solid concrete. Is it just regular hollow cinter block or is it solid block?

Bedford_DJ
03-16-2010, 09:30 PM
From today;

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2753/4439302928_6b22ae8f7e_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2593/4439305156_47ca518abf_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2678/4438530547_dacfbf2d8a_b.jpg

Jonovision
03-17-2010, 03:47 PM
Thanks for all the updates! I really like the cornice they've installed. It looks great.

beyeas
03-17-2010, 07:29 PM
You beat me to it! I walk by the every day and kept meaning to take a pic.

For a long time they were doing interior only, but recently that have been doing all the cleanup on the cladding, cornice etc.

worldlyhaligonian
03-18-2010, 07:32 PM
That is one nice cornice... I hope we see this quality of roofline on Waterside Centre.



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