[Coldrsx]

Im surprised this post did not send Coldsrx into shock/coma/cardiac arrest..
ha!
I guess its probably too late as the damage has been done...

my rods, cones, and pretty much any receptor is so dull from the first it just does not matter any more.

[RTA]

So we wait to see what happens then show outrage after it's too late?

Assuming the design won't change significantly from the drawings and renderings that have been floating around for a decade (and it is unlikely that it will be the same considering the scope of the changes we have already seen to Tower 1 from those originals to what is being built), what do you propose to do about it, besides complain on the Internet? They got their permits fair and square based on the bylaws and regulations of the day. Having those approvals is a competitive advantage for them. You may not like it, but that's the way things go sometimes.

Just to be clear, it's not that I disagree with your concerns, I'm just being more pragmatic than emotional.

[SHOFEAR]

Assuming the design won't change significantly from the drawings and renderings that have been floating around for a decade (and it is unlikely that it will be the same considering the scope of the changes we have already seen to Tower 1 from those originals to what is being built), what do you propose to do about it, besides complain on the Internet? They got their permits fair and square based on the bylaws and regulations of the day. Having those approvals is a competitive advantage for them. You may not like it, but that's the way things go sometimes.

Just to be clear, it's not that I disagree with your concerns, I'm just being more pragmatic than emotional.

How about when Mr Qualico makes a comment regarding how amazing this plan is the people on c2e and ssp comment on how out of date the concept is rather than suck his virtual cock. Just look at how many of you deep throated him when it came to the Gallery....nobody pointed out that maybe the main reason for it was economic. The reason for the 13 foot ceilings are to fit his massively inflated ego, courtesy of you guys.

I'm pretty sure when this discussion has come up in the past, you were one to side with the status quo rather than point out the flaws. So why not come out and point out the flaws when he's around, you just said you don't necessarily disagree with my concerns?

[RTA]

How about when Mr Qualico makes a comment regarding how amazing this plan is the people on c2e and ssp comment on how out of date the concept is rather than suck his virtual cock. Just look at how many of you deep throated him when it came to the Gallery....nobody pointed out that maybe the main reason for it was economic. The reason for the 13 foot ceilings are to fit his massively inflated ego, courtesy of you guys.

Now you're just being an ass. In any case, the only thing that has moved on Stationlands is Epcor tower, not the massive four-block podium. Could it be possible that no one commented on the podium concept because it isn't being built yet and/or because more current designs are not yet available?

Again, though, what difference would it have made to comment on the concept at the point that the shovels were already in the ground? What difference would you have expected it to have made? Basically it seems to me you just want everyone to - borrowing your analogy - deep throat your virtual cock of agreeing with you and complaining on the Internet.

And no shit the gallery bid was economic; maybe it wasn't pointed out because it was blatantly obvious to most people (particularly since the government was looking for private, for-profit companies to bid on it). Qualico is a business, they wouldn't do it if it wasn't going to be profitable for them. That doesn't negate that hosting the gallery here would have had many benefits for Edmonton, regardless of the design.

I'm pretty sure when this discussion has come up in the past, you were one to side with the status quo rather than point out the flaws. So why not come out and point out the flaws when he's around, you just said you don't necessarily disagree with my concerns?

I'd love for you to point out when and where I sided with the status quo, if you're going to accuse me of anything. As for pointing out the flaws, I'll wait until - oh, I dunno - any more of the Stationlands project is even proposed to go ahead and updated designs are made available. Until then, there's not much that's worth pointing out.

[steveve]

stop bickering over nonsense! :haha:


It's cool to see another Success go up! I hope this one turns out to be a "success!" :cheers:

I think an Absolute tower has been bumped down to this list cause Aura is considered U/C now...

[caltrane74]

apparently, because the foundation work is already complete on Success 2, this tower will complete it's 46 storeys in only 35 weeks...

[steveve]

apparently, because the foundation work is already complete on Success 2, this tower will complete it's 46 storeys in only 35 weeks...

oh sweet! No more waiting for foundation work!

I guess it'll be short lived on our list then :shrug: ...

[steveve]

Nice shot of the Yorkville cluster!

FS will dominate and look sweet from this angle!
Uptown/Crystal fill in the gaps...
Number 1 Bloor: unknown

Photo by urbandreamer on UT:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6057/dsc02705e.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?p=362035&posted=1#post362035


X condo/Casa by urbandreamer on UT:

***I've never really liked X from the east/west... it looks too chunky and has always been bare... I think X2 will make things look better (as will Couture)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3033/dsc02662f.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?p=362036&posted=1#post362036

[WhipperSnapper]

stop bickering over nonsense!

It's hardly nonsense however, a mall isn't the end of the world either. Most important is to get the podium broken up into at least two halfs even if it's just a pedestrian passageway inbetween

[SHOFEAR]

Now you're just being an ass. In any case, the only thing that has moved on Stationlands is Epcor tower, not the massive four-block podium. Could it be possible that no one commented on the podium concept because it isn't being built yet and/or because more current designs are not yet available?

Again, though, what difference would it have made to comment on the concept at the point that the shovels were already in the ground? What difference would you have expected it to have made? Basically it seems to me you just want everyone to - borrowing your analogy - deep throat your virtual cock of agreeing with you and complaining on the Internet.

And no shit the gallery bid was economic; maybe it wasn't pointed out because it was blatantly obvious to most people (particularly since the government was looking for private, for-profit companies to bid on it). Qualico is a business, they wouldn't do it if it wasn't going to be profitable for them. That doesn't negate that hosting the gallery here would have had many benefits for Edmonton, regardless of the design.



I'd love for you to point out when and where I sided with the status quo, if you're going to accuse me of anything. As for pointing out the flaws, I'll wait until - oh, I dunno - any more of the Stationlands project is even proposed to go ahead and updated designs are made available. Until then, there's not much that's worth pointing out.


blah blah blah.. Your so afraid to say something bad about Stationlands it's pathetic. If you are going to influence design it's before the detailed design is done.....now's the time to speak your mind. Things like material and color can be changed at the last minute, an open pedestrian pathway which requires massive reconfigurations to the layout, HVAC, and perhaps even structural components will not be.

As it was previously pointed out. If Qualico gets another significant tenant they will consider starting tower two. But hey, the mighty one occasionally graces us with his presence and throws us a bone lets not say things negative about his project. Pathetic.

[RTA]

blah blah blah.. Your so afraid to say something bad about Stationlands it's pathetic.

Or you could just take it at face value that I have nothing to say until there is something worth talking about. As I said before, I'm just being pragmatic; meanwhile you're off in a flurry of emotions and for some reason taking it out on me.

If you are going to influence design it's before the detailed design is done.....now's the time to speak your mind.

What kind of influence do you think I have? For that matter, what kind of influence do you think you have? One can hope that Qualico may change its mind on its good graces based upon public input before building the podium as it is designed, but if they have already secured the necessary approvals to build, what happens from this point on is their business, and we frankly have no say in it.

Really it's our collective fault for allowing the city to grant those permits with that design (though to be fair to myself, I wasn't an actual resident of Edmonton at the time, so I'm somewhat absolved). Consider when that happened though - downtown was dead, what little population growth we had kept pushing further away, and we were so desperate for any kind of development downtown that we would approve anything - even Oliver Square, Railtown, Grand Central Manor x3, etc.

[Kevin_foster]

It's hardly nonsense however, a mall isn't the end of the world either. Most important is to get the podium broken up into at least two halfs even if it's just a pedestrian passageway inbetween

A mall is the end of the world, for Edmonton. If future growth goes from central to North, pretty much all of downtown Edmonton will be indoors.

Edmonton city center, at any of the waking hours, is PACKED (especially during business). You wouldn't know it driving around and looking at the streets. It's a shame really.

I think the concerns over how the remainder of Stationlands will be constructed are indeed, very worthy of discussion and debate. It's current plan would do nothing but put office workers in desks, only to go home at night from underground parking to the suburbs. No need to go outside and interact with the city. :(

Here is the original plan:
http://imgur.com/tNxAZ.jpg
(from google search)

Here is the approximate footprint:
http://imgur.com/HZBi0.jpg
(done by me)

Existing pedway system/downtown map:
http://www.edmontondowntown.com/upload/file/EdmontonDowntownMap%20Final.pdf

Anyways, perhaps we should move the discussion to Edmonton :>

[caltrane74]

X Condo
Jarvis and Bloor
Toronto
Hieght: 139 Meters
Update Shows: Installation of Balcony Glass
photo courtesy: myself

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2771/4273960049_00d0608edc_b.jpg

Uptown And Casa Blu
Bloor And Yonge
Toronto
130 meters and 160 meters
Update Shows: Concrete forming on the set backs (uptown)
Update Shows: Glass Installation (uptown)
Update Shows: Roof Forming (crystal blu)
Update Shows: Continued Cladding Installation (crystal blu)


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2752/4273985553_b754da4ca6_b.jpg

[SHOFEAR]

What kind of influence do you think I have? For that matter, what kind of influence do you think you have? One can hope that Qualico may change its mind on its good graces based upon public input before building the podium as it is designed, but if they have already secured the necessary approvals to build, what happens from this point on is their business, and we frankly have no say in it.

.

When has that stopped us from slamming other projects before? I get the feeling that many on C2E and SSP don't criticize Stationlands because Mr Qualico is somewhat active in both communities.

Hell. How many projects have been slammed after construction? Here we have a massive project yet to be built and an audience that includes a person with a great deal of pull in the project...but yet people like yourself choose not to be critical of it...

[craner]

I think all he meant was really, think before you post. That's all.

And as far as height is concerned, well it will be E-towns new tallest.

Some of us are excited about that!

Damn airport.

I'll still consider Manulife the tallest (cheating spire on Epcor be damned).
Get rid of that overlay and lets build a true "new tallest" that leaves no doubt!
:cheers:

[RTA]

When has that stopped us from slamming other projects before? I get the feeling that many on C2E and SSP don't criticize Stationlands because Mr Qualico is somewhat active in both communities.

Hell. How many projects have been slammed after construction? Here we have a massive project yet to be built and an audience that includes a person with a great deal of pull in the project...but yet people like yourself choose not to be critical of it...

One more time, for those in the cheap seats: I have not been critical of it because I remain unconvinced at this stage that it will go forward looking anything like the proposal from a decade ago. Just like how the Epcor tower being built today looks little like the tower that was proposed a decade ago. Until I see something more current that is worthy of discussion, there isn't much to be critical of.

When Qualico starts looking more seriously at building the podium component and releases designs that are more current, then we'll pick it apart.

[240glt]

I'm certainly not going to slam this development, the tower is going to look slick and is going to do a lot more for that area than the dirt parking lot it replaces ever did.

[Coldrsx]

I'll still consider Manulife the tallest (cheating spire on Epcor be damned).
Get rid of that overlay and lets build a true "new tallest" that leaves no doubt!
:cheers:

Melcor and Procura will likely be fighting for that once we get back into a market that is viable for that much space.

Melcor - 102st/jasper avenue - rumours they want a 40 storey

Procura (likely in partnership or bought out) - 103st/jasper - "40 storey"

[240glt]

Would rather see the Melcor lot developed before anything else...

'couse I'm still hoping for some sort of grand reno & expansion of the old Epcor building that encompasses the old BMO lot as well, although GE Energy has been pretty quiet about what it plans to do once its building is emptied out... Just need to find a new home for NewCity...

[craner]

^^^
^^^ Awsome !
Would be nice to see both 40 storeys go.
:banana:

Epcor is looking good BTW - just wish the girth of that east-west elevation could be reduced to limit the "slab" effect.

[Coldrsx]

Would rather see the Melcor lot developed before anything else...

'couse I'm still hoping for some sort of grand reno & expansion of the old Epcor building that encompasses the old BMO lot as well, although GE Energy has been pretty quiet about what it plans to do once its building is emptied out... Just need to find a new home for NewCity...

Melcor lot would be nice to have developed, although it would also be nice for the City to buy it and develop it into another nice urban park for lunch time and various events.

GE will have to do something in about 2 years as much of the space will be empty and it is an ideal time for a comprehensive full reno.

Ideally I would like to see our new tallest on the corner of 101st/jasper where new city (sad loss though) and BOM sit.

[RTD]

Well, now that the Edmontonian forumers are getting a decent amount of attention, can we stop the petty whining and bickering now?

[WhipperSnapper]

One more time, for those in the cheap seats: I have not been critical of it because I remain unconvinced at this stage that it will go forward looking anything like the proposal from a decade ago. Just like how the Epcor tower being built today looks little like the tower that was proposed a decade ago. Until I see something more current that is worthy of discussion, there isn't much to be critical of.



Epcor's design has been updated but the massing is almost identical to the Stationlands model

[rapid_business]

Melcor lot would be nice to have developed, although it would also be nice for the City to buy it and develop it into another nice urban park for lunch time and various events.....

I say leave that to :fingerscrossed: the future park between 105th and 108th if the Jasper Ave. Design Guidelines go through some day as envisioned by Urban Strategies.

Well, now that the Edmontonian forumers are getting a decent amount of attention, can we stop the petty whining and bickering now?

We just moved the conversation here form the previous threads I suppose.

[steveve]

Great updates Cal!

The Uptown glass is quite blue... its kinda weird :shrug:

[caltrane74]

Turned up the contrast steveve boy...... the first unedited pic was not clear enough.......

[dleung]

http://imgur.com/tNxAZ.jpg

OMG terrible. This has the scale of a suburban office tower complex... 3 blocks, one continuous volume. Oh wait, they cut 2 little tunnels for cars and adventurous pedestrians =)

[240glt]

^ That is from what, 2002 ?

This has the scale of a suburban office tower complex

No it doesn't, it's not a bunch of individual podiumless towers sitting in the middle of a sea of parking lots. That's what suburban tower complexes look like.

Yes the complex is tall, narrow and long but it won't look anything like that. That's plainly obvious from the first phase u/c right now.

[Coldrsx]

^yup... at least it was not the design prior to that!

[RTA]

^ You mean this?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2525/4012531939_b7a9335015_o.jpg

Tee hee.

[Coldrsx]

^haha that's the one.

'Welcome to Final Fantasy Towers, please choose your quest and attach your dirigible at the top'

[steveve]

Here's some photos i took yesterday from the AGO:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2783/4277461842_048edc024e_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2771/4276709225_9a34178cb6_b.jpg


One Bedford IS the centre of attention and REALLY does dominate cause ITS SO UNOBSTRUCTED!!!

it's good for the building but this just shows how transparent this side of the skyline is! there are so little skyscrapers in this stretch :(

You can see from Dundas to Bloor with out any obstruction!

Boutique Condos is gonna have a really nice impact on the skyline! bigger than i thought it would!

Taken from the AGO yesterday!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4276709561_d37162d940_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4277456254_f4d2ce3b7b_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4276714533_2b8d67e799_b.jpg


Photos taken from the AGO yesterday:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4277461224_d9aea46367_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2709/4277461580_9e6d8bcee8_b.jpg


Parade looks nice! (and so does cityplace during sunset)!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2699/4277454520_9d121b1aff_b.jpg


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4052/4277460898_6f1b2060ac_b.jpg
All photos by me: steveve :)

Enjoy :D!

[Dylan Leblanc]

yuck, what is this? an early design for the Epcor/stationlands tower?

^ You mean this?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2525/4012531939_b7a9335015_o.jpg

Tee hee.

[Coldrsx]

^it is (was) indeed....

[caltrane74]

That roof on Ritz seems to be taking forever to build, this wait better be worth it.....

Thanks for the update steveve, your photos are EPIC!

You can update all the highrise construction threads with those photos, with the exception of Trump...

[WhipperSnapper]

^ You mean this?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2525/4012531939_b7a9335015_o.jpg

Tee hee.

Thanks. I needed a good laugh

[Nite]

Absolute Wold (Mississauga)

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100113007.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100115008.jpg

soruce: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=50065397#post50065397

[steveve]

That roof on Ritz seems to be taking forever to build, this wait better be worth it.....

Thanks for the update steveve, your photos are EPIC!

You can update all the highrise construction threads with those photos, with the exception of Trump...

indeed... epic! :haha:

The Ritz slant shouldn't be very different than it is in the renders... there's not too much to it! just a sweet lookin slant :D ...

This first floor of the slant is the one that will take longest... just because it's the first level of it... the rest should come by quickly... (i hope!):)

[vanman]

I don't know if Woodwards has been bumped from this list yet or not, but she's basically done:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/4275575909_a647ab09e2_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kwu/4275575909/sizes/l/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/4278323570_94088bc6cd_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arianec/4278323570/sizes/l/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/4277580243_a1c8cd769d_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arianec/4277580243/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/4278098172_3ef1acabdb_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gillesylucy/4278098172/sizes/l/

[caltrane74]

Photo: Crystal Blu
Location : Bloor and Yonge (Toronto)
courtesy: myself
Hieght: 129 Meters
Progress: Glass Installation/Roof Forming

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4282130644_12ca0323c7.jpg

[steveve]

INSANE X condo shots by drum118 on UT:

these are some of the best X condo shots i've seen!!!

it looks SO tall and the jet black glass actually looks like its suppose to!

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0151.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0153.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0154.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0147.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0149.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0157.jpg

[steveve]

Murano lookin awesome by dt_toronto_geek on UT:

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?p=363484#post363484


http://s770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/scullydog259/Murano2_Jan16-10.jpg

[steveve]

Uptown is starting to look kinda like One St Thomas -imo :)

Look at all those windows!!! it's truly an "EPIC" sight to see :)


Photos by drum118 on UT;

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0112.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0111.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0136.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0104.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0137.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?p=363495&posted=1#post363495

[Traynor]

Now that I see more of Uptown I really understand most forumers' dislike for Pre-Cast.

This North Elevation, with it's strange pillared balconies and small windows, is starting to look like a Soviet-Era correctional facility.

If it had been clad with limestone or had some decorative lintels above the windows and some overall ornamentation, to break up the expanse of precast, you might have had something.

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0112.jpg
(Courtesy drum118 on UT)

[Coldrsx]

^those decorative lintels look like venting as well.

[Delirium]

i would seriously feel like i was living behind bars.

[caltrane74]

yeah, uptown is making me hurl.

And the thing is blocking crystal blu, to boot!

[steveve]

For me the balconies are not too much to stress about... i mean, aside from that it's a pretty nice building..

And is it me... or are ALOT of those white tiles already dirty :haha: !
If it is thats a FAIL! in my books :haha: :haha:

[vanman]

Uptown is looking pretty banal. It's not nearly as good as the renderings indicated but I'll reserve final judgement til the the thing is actually completed.

[WhipperSnapper]

Uptown is exactly as I expected it would be ... unfortunately. A fitting memorial to the late Marco Muzzo's legacy.

[caltrane74]

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0173.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0182.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0177.jpg



Some photos from drum118 at UT
Toronto International Film Festival Tower
Bell Lightbox
John and King
Photo from: Jan 16 - 10
http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?682-Bell-Lightbox-Festival-Tower-(Daniels-42s-KPMB)/page99

[steveve]

18 York by drum118 on UT:

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0242.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0239.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0228.jpg

It strange that this building has a blast wall while Union/Telus building doesn't.
http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_16/IMG_jan-16-10-0229.jpg[/IMG

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?459-18-York-St-PricewaterhouseCoopers-%28bcIMC-26s-KPMB%29&p=363712



Burano by drumm118 on UT:
[IMG]http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_20/IMG_jan-20-10-0008.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_20/IMG_jan-20-10-0001.jpg

http://davidfisher.biz/photo/2010/jan/2010_01_20/IMG_jan-20-10-0010.jpg

Looks like Noahs Ark imo :haha: !

[steveve]

Weird and interesting angle of the skyline!

Old + new!!!

photo by greenleaf on UT:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4294021488_550ce441d1.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?507-Casa-%28Cresford-46s-aA%29&p=363812

[caltrane74]

I really luve the updates on 18 York...

nice...

York and Bremner will become more city like once, the ICE Condos and Office towers go up, very dense, very busy with pedestrian traffic.

[steveve]

I really luve the updates on 18 York...

nice...

York and Bremner will become more city like once, the ICE Condos and Office towers go up, very dense, very busy with pedestrian traffic.

yeah... it's really weird how there was once a period of time where that whole area was a no mans land WITHIN THE CITY!

crazy how we lived with it...

I'm glad everything is gone :cheers:

[WhipperSnapper]

yeah... it's really weird how there was once a period of time where that whole area was a no mans land WITHIN THE CITY!

crazy how we lived with it...

I'm glad everything is gone :cheers:


As they say, "Rome wasn't built in a day". I'm actually impressed how quickly the railway lands are being built out. An entire village of 15,000 homes and two to three million square feet of commercial space from 2000 onward. The tracks weren't fully removed until the late eighties and the nineties were virtually a write off.

[steveve]

EPIC INSANE SHOT by digitalis on UT:

Look at that sea of buildings/density!!!!!!

Casa looks great from this angle (not to mention festival)

Photo by digitalis on UT:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4297661375_6ea2644c56_o.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?682-Bell-Lightbox-Festival-Tower-%28Daniels-42s-KPMB%29/page100


One of the coolest looking skyline shots i have to say!:banana:

[sammo]

casa and crystal blu look great in this pic too.
by dt_toronto_geek at ut.
http://s770.photobucket.com/albums/xx341/scullydog259/Casa_Jan23-10.jpg

[sammo]

^seems some towers have (require-?) the red roof top 'clearance' lights or whatever they're called (see 1 st.thomas, manulife, etc.) while other tall buildings don't -like the Bay building at yonge/bloor.
what's the cut-off or 'rule'? wouldn't the sharp corners of casa's hat need them?

[mersar]

^seems some towers have (require-?) the red roof top 'clearance' lights or whatever they're called (see 1 st.thomas, manulife, etc.) while tall buildings others don't like the Bay building at yonge/bloor.
what's the cut-off or 'rule'? wouldn't the corners of casa's sharp hat need them?

I believe the rules are found in the Canadian Aviation Regulations (link (http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/regserv/affairs/cars/part6/standards/62119.htm#5_7)) Part VI, section 5.7 "Prominent Buildings and Similar Extensive Structures":

[steveve]

Emotional photo by Mike In TO on UT:

He captured the police cars lined up in respect for 2 mounties that died in the Haiti Earthquake...

Burano is in it...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2801/4298700736_dcc31e04f1_b.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?476-Burano-%28Bay-Grosvenor-Lanterra-48s-aA%29&p=364536&posted=1

R.I.P. to all the victims of the Haiti earthquake.

[sammo]

thanx for the link mersar. "Red Obstruction Lights"


steveve, that shot is EPIC!!! thanx for posting.

[steveve]

steveve, that shot is EPIC!!! thanx for posting.

yes. truly an epic photo... When i first saw it i thought something big was happening! like someone planted a bomb or somethin at the Burano site... then i read the captions :haha:

It would be so sick to set of a domino effect by blowing up one of the police cars and watch them blow up one by one!!!!! :twoguns: :rock: ...

[caltrane74]

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Uptown and Crystal Blu video with commentary by caltrane74

[steveve]

"It sucks... trust me!" :haha:

Another epic video... i know, the weather really does suck today... Nice vid though!...

Manulife got freakin pwned by these 2 towers! Yonge/Bloor area has really changed!

*That 1 Bloor lot has GOTTA GO! its a horrible eyesore to skyscraperfans and potentially bad luck :haha: !

Casa is lookin pretty good!

Nice video updates today :cheers:

[sammo]

apparently, the last of the four Pinnacle Centre towers has started up! -Success II. a tower crane has been put up!

by Jasonzed at ssc.
http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/kj/100120/421r7/7761l9e_19.jpeg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100124006.jpg
not sure if this makes the 11-30 list tho.

[steveve]

I think it does make the list! ^^^

It's great to see one crane put down (MLS) and one put up (Success)!

That rhymes too... MLS, SUCCESS!

damn... MLS looks really tall in that shot ^^^

[sammo]

yup. CN tower has a few new friends in that shot. 10 years ago, she would have been pretty lonely.

[caltrane74]

Gain a crane.....
Lose a crane.....

I'll take that!

[caltrane74]

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Here is a video I made with the TIFF

I also included a link to this forum on Youtube...

ha!

[raggedy13]

Some Vancouver updates from last week I forgot to post:

Capitol:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2749/4284286856_07ca16c1ea_b.jpg

Patina:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4284271968_90c1c32cc2_b.jpg

Far right in this pic
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2686/4284264534_d0accef88b_b.jpg

Fairmont Pacific Rim:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2776/4284129204_a6019d4efd_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4284121770_d0c988ce32_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4284117630_cd2ceb0e84_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2750/4283387225_7256a2a080_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4283391461_240e5b3f42_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2732/4284137462_3d402eeea0_b.jpg

[caltrane74]

Those last two shots are so hot. Glad you remembered to post.

Dont tell anyone this, but I love the boxy look of this building at ground level and the glass is so clean. Hope Toronto can copy this with TIFF. Very Refined.

[isaidso]

Will the Fairmont Pacific Rim open in time for the Olympics?

[sammo]

like the fairmont, very sharp.

don't like the rambling script wrapping the lower floors. unecessary to say the least. detracting.
what's it say anyway? i can sorta make out:
"lyingontopofabiulding | thecloudslookednonearerthanwhen..."
an important passage? -or just a garrulous building?

[steveve]

Awesome video Cal! (and commentary)

Those balconies sure do need to be clad in something... right now i hate the look of all those bare concrete balconies :yuck: !

I really do like Fairmount as well... Its simple yet very effective! And i agree with Sammo that it is a very "sharp" looking building!


3 new drawings by Koops65 posted here:

Manulife, Burano, 300 Front... look awesome!:

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=45741974&offset=25

[caltrane74]

Another quick video update that I linked in on Twitter.. (and Youtube)

ha!!

Uptown getting concrete the old fashioned way..

Ehe_irvyYtc

[steveve]

Probably one of the reasons why Uptown is a little slower to grow...

The Ritz used a pump and it grew at a nice pace...

*Trump also uses a pump but its takes longer cause of how thick and tall the floors are...

Nice work this week Caltrane! :cheers:

[Dylan Leblanc]

that's super cool!! did I hear you end one of your sentences with "eh"??

that's got to be a slow way to bring the concrete up

[caltrane74]

yes, I did use "eh" at the end of one my sentences, when I was bemused by the fact the condo prices START at 900 grand.

Blows my mind how expensive things are here...

pretty soon they'll have to change toronto's name to "Victoria East"

ha!

[raggedy13]

like the fairmont, very sharp.

don't like the rambling script wrapping the lower floors. unecessary to say the least. detracting.
what's it say anyway? i can sorta make out:
"lyingontopofabiulding | thecloudslookednonearerthanwhen..."
an important passage? -or just a garrulous building?

The words are part of a public art installment. They say "Lying on top of a building the clouds looked no nearer than when I was lying on the street". Vancouver forumers have mixed feelings about it. I think it could've been pulled off better but I still like it for being different.

Here is an article with more info if interested: http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Public+Vancouver+What+name+heck+actually/2305001/story.html

[steveve]

The words are part of a public art installment. They say "Lying on top of a building the clouds looked no nearer than when I was lying on the street". Vancouver forumers have mixed feelings about it. I think it could've been pulled off better but I still like it for being different.

Here is an article with more info if interested: http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Public+Vancouver+What+name+heck+actually/2305001/story.html

i think the words are kinda interesting BUT i can see people getting tired of it down the road... These words are stuck on the building for eternity!

[steveve]

Here's some nice shots just posted by urbandreamer at ut:

These shots just remind me that we have cranes all over our skyline (north end, south end, middle, everywhere!!!)


Uptown to poke out of here real soon!:
http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?464-Uptown-Residences-%28Balmuto-St-Pemberton-48s-Burka%29&p=365547&posted=1


http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6108/dsc00102ax.jpg


Ritz slant/MLS crane comin down:
http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?511-Ritz-Carlton-%28Graywood-CadFair-53s-KPF-P-S%29&p=365549

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5409/dsc00101hu.jpg


I love all the crane action/growth happening in this town!!! :banana:

[Dylan Leblanc]

Will the Fairmont Pacific Rim open in time for the Olympics?

Yes, it is fully booked.

[Dylan Leblanc]

apparently, the last of the four Pinnacle Centre towers has started up! -Success II. a tower crane has been put up!

by Jasonzed at ssc.
http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/kj/100120/421r7/7761l9e_19.jpeg

Isn't Success II already built? Maybe the building starting construction is the one at far left?

[caltrane74]

ur thinkin success 1.... which was finished this spring..

[Dylan Leblanc]

nevermind, I thought the caption on the image was for the building it was over top of. didn't notice the arrow thingy

[sammo]

i was a bit confused too at first. success tower I looks short & stocky in that render.

[steveve]

Isn't Success II already built? Maybe the building starting construction is the one at far left?

I thought the same as you!

Either the caption is placed wrong or its just FAILED placement!!!

[WhipperSnapper]

All the towers look stocky. Must of been an EPIC FAILED resize

[caltrane74]

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Me doing a 360 of Yorkville and the construction of the Uptown and Crystal Blu Towers
Shot from the Yorkville/Cumberland Parking Arcade
commentary - by caltrane74

[Dylan Leblanc]

that's totally-awesome-super-cool!! love the central canadian accent

[caltrane74]

you guys don't sound like this??

;)

[Traynor]

you guys don't sound like this??

;)

I was fascinated that you pronounce the name of the city "CHRON-oh". With almost all one sound and no discernible, separate syllables. I am beginning to believe I am one of the few remaining people that actually says "Tor-AHN-toe".

:D

[raggedy13]

^I think that is exactly how I pronounce it as well ("CHRON-oh"), when being casual/lazy about it anyways. I can't recall what the average Vancouverite says though.

Thanks for the videos caltrane, you certainly know your stuff. :tup:

[caltrane74]

oh ur talking about the Ritz video... I did couple days back. Yeah, ha! I noticed how I pronounced it too when I was listening to myself.

Charanuh = Tur/ran/to /Kur/an/toe = / Tur/on/uh = /Tur/an/oh = (when your really lazy = tur/anna or torrana)

Born and raised here and still cannot figure out the right way to say it., I know I will never say it To-RON-Toe or To-Ran-Toe

Infact anyone that says TO-RON-TOE is a foreigner, I'll know it in a split second they open their mouths!!
(your not from here right? ... heheheh :) )


ha

[steveve]

WOW! thats a totally awesome panorama vid!!!

The Yonge/Bloor towers look so huge/tall/ and epic!... THIS is downtown!

Crystal and Uptown look really great from this angle! NO JOKE!

***I've never been up in that parking structure... how long does it take to climb/how many floors?


***I've always pronounced it To-Ran-Toe but you're not really suppose to emphasis the TOE part of it...

its suppose to be said as 1 word.. not TOR-ON-TO

Many people who live here/born here still say it the American way ^^^

Either way is fine by me, there's no need to fuss about it.....

[caltrane74]

That second video I was gasping for air, i forgot to do a panaroma shot, So I had to run up the stairs, and I'm carrying my bloody laptop. So I sound a little out of breath.

Took me about 1 minute to run up the stairs.

[Traynor]

oh ur talking about the Ritz video... I did couple days back. Yeah, ha! I noticed how I pronounced it too when I was listening to myself.

Charanuh = Tur/ran/to /Kur/an/toe = / Tur/on/uh = /Tur/an/oh = (when your really lazy = tur/anna or torrana)

Born and raised here and still cannot figure out the right way to say it., I know I will never say it To-RON-Toe or To-Ran-Toe

Infact anyone that says TO-RON-TOE is a foreigner, I'll know it in a split second they open their mouths!!
(your not from here right? ... heheheh :) )


ha

HEY! I was born and raised in "Tor-ANH-toe" I aint no furinner! LOL

OK, I was born at Scarborough General and grew up in North York... But same diff.

However, my father was a famous correspondent for the CBC and my mother a Professor of English studies, so articulation was a must growing up.

:D

[sammo]

Traynor, you are aware that most people that live around here pronounce it the 'common' way; "tcharonno, turono, tarono, etc. -basically dropping the last T? (yes, you can say we have become lazy or loose about it cuz we're so familiar...) if you pronounce it the 'Proper' way, you will certainly be assumed to be from out of town.

keep an eye on cab fares or restaurant bills! :D

[Traynor]

Traynor, you are aware that most people that live around here pronounce it the 'common' way; "tcharonno, turono, tarono, etc. -basically dropping the last T? (yes, you can say we have become lazy or loose about it cuz we're so familiar...) if you pronounce it the 'Proper' way, you will certainly be assumed to be from out of town.

keep an eye on cab fares or restaurant bills! :D

I agree with you that, that is the way it is now. (And has been for some time) However, growing up in the late 60's, I remember we considered people who said "Tronno", as someone who was from a small town and moved to Toronto later in life.

Speaking of regional accents. Why is it everyone else in Canada says Kal-gree or Kal-GER-ee except the people actually from there? I believe they call their town 'Kal-GAIR-ree". Are the rest of us pronouncing it wrong?

Just wondering