Canada's Tallest U/C #11 - #30 (inclusive) [Archive] - Page 35

caltrane74

Jul 5, 2010, 4:44 PM

To start our trip through Absolute World, we're going to give you some close-ups of the exterior to highlight the sculptural qualities of these two buildings. Of course, these images will change once the balcony glass starts to appear and the undersides of the balconies are painted. Most views will no doubt become sleeker and shinier and more amazing, but we are partial to the way some of these look right now.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose1.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose2.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose3.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose4.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose5.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose6.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose7.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose8.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose9.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose10.jpg

Absolute World reflected in the glass of the Mississauga Executive Centre, just to the north:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose11.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose12.jpg

Tomorrow we'll start big, with recent looks at the full towers, and then go inside:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldClose13.jpg

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www.urbantoronto.ca

Urban Toronto go access to the Absolute World site, and have started their next photo tour with insider connections they have been granted.

from interchange42 at UT

caltrane74

Jul 5, 2010, 6:52 PM

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j251/dawnd_01/WINTER%202008/Winter%20Part%20Two%202009/Late%20Summer%20Early%20Fall%202009/IMGP2206.jpg

from Taller, Better at SSC http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=462099&page=19

18 York, to the uninitiated.

caltrane74

Jul 5, 2010, 7:19 PM

from Marcanadian at SSC

www.skyscrapercity.com

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4753064159_f66c5d9f4b_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4753633716_2906dfb9d7_b.jpg

33 Bay Street ( AKA - Pinnacle Centre - Tower 4 / Phase 4)

steveve

Jul 5, 2010, 10:04 PM

I spy trump in that last shot ^^^ :banana: .. the spire should be really apparent from here :D

Success 2 is really gonna fill in some gaps depending on where youre standing... but it only means more green glass (which i find is an exception because success tower 1's green glass is sweet :D)

caltrane74

Jul 7, 2010, 10:14 PM

Okay, back on:

You cannot spend anytime in the area without gawking at these beauties. If you have the time, the towers scream "photograph me!", and that scream is just going to get louder as they come closer to completion. From every angle the towers elicit a 'wow' from onlookers. Count us wowed too.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteTwistpano.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteVases.jpg

Some info about Absolute World's famous rotating floorplates: Absolute D, the taller one that's been dubbed Marilyn, (but don't call it that when onsite!!!), starts off with a 1 degree rotation between each of the first many floors, before the rotation goes to 2 degrees between floors, eventually rotating as much as 8 degrees between floors where you see the waist in the upper middle; meanwhile, every floor of Absolute E rotates 4 degrees from the floor below it.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsolutePair2pano.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteEclipsepano.jpg

As we get closer, we focus on the low rise building that will front Hurontario. On the upper floors, townhomes. The second floor will feature parking. The ground floor will be retail.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteRetailpano.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteWorld4.jpg

The podium is separated from Absolute D by an esplanade.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteEsplanadepano.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteWorld2.jpg

Take a look at the ground, two photos above. You'll see a pipe and cement blocks snaking through the future esplanade. That pipe moves concrete from the ground to the top of the building. Unlike many projects that hoist concrete to the sky with the crane, Dominus Construction is moving the concrete up here with pumps. Concrete deliveries start their rise here, at the Putzmeister:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteWorld5.jpg

Some concrete spills every day and is wasted. The spill is caught by this tray, which is about to cleared here for tomorrow's delivery:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteWorld6.jpg

Time to head inside:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteStairs.jpg

Leading our tour is Sergio Vacilotto, Director of Site Operations (center), Ajmal Temor, Assistant Superintendent (left), and Rafal Marcjanek, Assistant Superintendent (hidden, we'll see him later).

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteLobbypano.jpg

The ground floor will have nice high ceilings.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteLobbyStairs.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteWorld22.jpg

Next, we go up. 37th floor, here we come!

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbsoluteSolopano.jpg

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The UT'ers continue with their tour at Absolute World Mississauga. These photos by interchange at UT.

dleung

Jul 7, 2010, 10:20 PM

Mississauga looks suprisingly-liveable in that last shot.

Coldrsx

Jul 7, 2010, 10:32 PM

Mississauga looks suprisingly-liveable in that last shot.

Wash your mouth out with SOAP

yyzer

Jul 7, 2010, 10:53 PM

Actually living in Mississauga is more of a big city experience lately.....the place is almost unrecognizable from what it was 10 years ago....

Here's another shot of Absoluteworld taken in the 34 degree heat today, posted by Jasonzed at SSC....

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100707a015.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 8, 2010, 10:43 AM

Not looking so grim here, on a bright blue sky day from Humber Bay Park. That's the mouth of the Mimico Creek in the foreground.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/BeyondTheSeaPark.jpg

From northwest of the complex:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/BeyondTheSeaNW.jpg

From just west of it:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/BeyondTheSeaWpano.jpg

From south of it, across Lake Shore Blvd. from it:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/BeyondTheSeaSpano.jpg

From the east side. Star Tower, the tallest and last phase, is not yet above ground:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/BeyondTheSeaE.jpg

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Beyond the Sea complex from interchange at UT

One of the tallest buildings on this list, and a building we don't get many updates on.

caltrane74

Jul 8, 2010, 6:08 PM

Yesterday we saw how the concrete gets into the building. Today, how everything else goes in and up.

Most tall buildings under construction in Toronto have a loading platform or two hanging off the buildings, but much of the material going into most buildings can go up in the construction hoists. Because of Absolute World's irregular facade, exterior hoists were not possible, and so Absolute's hoists went into the elevator core in the interior of the building. Interior hoists in tight spaces can be inconvenient for some bulkier objects going into the buildings, so Absolute has many more loading platforms for moving goods in instead.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorld1Platforms.jpg

A platform from inside the building:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorld2Platforms.jpg

A platform from below:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorld3Platforms.jpg

The view, down, from a platform:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorld4Platforms.jpg

A delivery of window panels is lifted off a truck:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldDelivery1.jpg

The delivery arrives at the platform, and the items are carried into the building:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldDelivery2.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldDelivery3.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldDelivery4.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldDelivery5.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldDelivery6.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldDelivery7.jpg

The workers, of course, use the interior hoists to climb the building:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldHoist.jpg

When we visited, with the 46th floor being poured, the hoist only traveled as far as the 37th floor. It gets extended gradually up the elevator core:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldHoistpano.jpg

The crane climbs a few floors at a time too. Here's the base of one of the cranes:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldCrane11.jpg

The hole left for it has been filled after the crane rises:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldCraneHole.jpg

So, next, we go to where this crane sticks out on top.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/AbWorldCrane10.jpg

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Part 3 of the Absolute Mississauga Tour from interchange42 at UT

www.urbantoronto.ca

steveve

Jul 8, 2010, 6:44 PM

the ceiling heights don't seem very tall... or is that just me?

That elevator shaft shot is freaky!!! loooooong way down :whip:

WhipperSnapper

Jul 8, 2010, 7:33 PM

Yeah, Absolute is not a luxury building eventhough it was priced as one (by Missy standards)

steveve

Jul 9, 2010, 1:52 AM

Yeah, Absolute is not a luxury building eventhough it was priced as one (by Missy standards)

I find absolute world (in design) looking a bit cheap and commercialized.. i'm not a fan of wrap around balconies x50...

I've found that the many of the super luxurious towers going up don't include many/if not all balconies... for instance trump, the ritz, and four seasons. (shangri-la has a few balconies but not that many).

Which is why i'm also not a huge fan of Casa (in design). but they did a good job with it :)

Traynor

Jul 9, 2010, 2:56 AM

Steveve, Four Seasons has balconies. One on each corner, from the beginning of the residential floors all the way to the top.

:)

dleung

Jul 9, 2010, 5:55 AM

Balconies are a good distraction from inferior cladding, which is why cheap buildings have lots of it, and expensive ones prefer to show off the cladding instead. Unfortunately Vancouver doesn't have that option because balcony space more than 8% of GFA counts towards buildable area...

WhipperSnapper

Jul 9, 2010, 12:46 PM

Balconies are a good distraction but, the rest of your reasning seems a little out there. Balconies contribute to the amenity space in Toronto which is based on number of units instead of floor area. A cheaper building with shoebox units will have a higher amount of required amenity space.

Delirium

Jul 9, 2010, 2:23 PM

are we still on the list with this one? here's an update from yesterday
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/IMGP5798.jpg
residences at hotel georgia by me

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/IMGP5797.jpg
be me

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/IMGP5795.jpg
by me

caltrane74

Jul 9, 2010, 2:37 PM

oh man, that glass is so awesome......

Is that glass going all the way to the top, or is it gonna change to crap glass at a certain hieght.

Delirium

Jul 9, 2010, 2:50 PM

not sure but hopefully the glass will stay the same all the way up. we should find out pretty soon.

steveve

Jul 10, 2010, 12:26 AM

Really cool shot by Parkadalian at UT:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4778652744_0dc0400ef5_b.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?464-Uptown-Residences-%28Balmuto-St-Pemberton-48s-Burka%29&p=422320&posted=1#post422320

Like i said at UT:

"god i just love how different uptown looks from the north! something we dont see everyday , the design looks very different than the sides!.. i actually prefer the look that uptown has on this view because all the towers (in and around the yonge/bloor area) are lined up perfectly! it looks awesome especially with the financial district in the background! you can sorta get an idea of how awesome the views are from all those 5 towers are (including casa)"

WhipperSnapper

Jul 10, 2010, 1:09 AM

not sure but hopefully the glass will stay the same all the way up. we should find out pretty soon.

Are glass fins still to be added? There's a new medical building here in Toronto that looked like a real dud untill they covered it will glass fins. I can't imagine how ridiculously awesome Hotel Georgia's facade will look with this exceptional glass.

caltrane74

Jul 10, 2010, 4:10 AM

jasonzed in the main construction thread, has posted this:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100709a025.jpg

steveve

Jul 10, 2010, 5:59 PM

I don't think anyone driving by will not look up as they pass by these towers ^^^

These towers are impossible to miss ^^^ :D

caltrane74

Jul 11, 2010, 6:25 AM

by me

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8593/sany1413.jpg

dleung

Jul 11, 2010, 6:09 PM

oh man, that glass is so awesome......

Is that glass going all the way to the top, or is it gonna change to crap glass at a certain hieght.

Are glass fins still to be added? There's a new medical building here in Toronto that looked like a real dud untill they covered it will glass fins. I can't imagine how ridiculously awesome Hotel Georgia's facade will look with this exceptional glass.

The glass posted by delirium will go all the way to the top, and will have fins, according to all the renders. However, the other sides of this render I suspect might be of a more broken-up kind of curtain wall, like on Shaw tower or Fairmont Pacific Rim.
http://www.vancouver-real-estate-direct.com/blog/images/hotel-georgia-facade.jpg
www.vancouver-real-estate-direct.com

Balconies contribute to the amenity space in Toronto which is based on number of units instead of floor area. A cheaper building with shoebox units will have a higher amount of required amenity space.

So a high-end building with 4 units per floor will have say 4 balconies, vs a cheap building with 12 smaller units per floor with 12 balconies of equal size, adding up to 3 times the total balcony area. In Vancouver the 12 balconies will equal the 4 balconies in total area, meaning they're friggin tiny.

caltrane74

Jul 12, 2010, 4:00 AM

by me - TIFF

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9938/sany1518.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6326/sany1566b.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 12, 2010, 10:44 AM

by me

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9638/sany1555.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 12, 2010, 3:57 PM

by me

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6332/sany1517.jpg

steveve

Jul 12, 2010, 6:47 PM

That lightbox is looking crazy sharp from the east!!!! :D

caltrane74

Jul 13, 2010, 11:33 PM

by me

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4814/sany1550x.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 15, 2010, 3:51 AM

by me

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4380/sany1551x.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 15, 2010, 5:19 AM

Uptown by Jasonzed at UT

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100710056.jpg

Traynor

Jul 15, 2010, 11:58 AM

When you look at the added doodads that Chicago Condo in Mississauga has as well as the wonderful work being done on Absolute World (and all the added expense that twisting floors must cost) ... One wonders how come Condos in Toronto are consistently so bland like Uptown? There was such potential there with the Art Deco theme.

Look closely at the photo below of Chicago. I know purists are cringing and screaming "Fake Historicism!" but regardless, it must cost more to do, arches, ledges and lintels then the flat precast of Uptown. Yet this condo is being built and is mostly sold.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/ChicagoTop.jpg
(Courtesy interchange42 at UT found here http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?4302-Chicago-%28MCC-Daniels-36s-Kirkor%29/page24 )

If the Mississauga towers are being built with added architectural features and still being kept affordable and competitive for the Mississauga real estate market, why can't Toronto Condos be covered in Granite and Curtain Wall? I'm tired of hearing the "Cost Prohibitive" excuse for bland-chitecture.

I know this is elitist, but I wish they would stop building condos for the lower-middle-class "Me Generation" that thinks it is owed everything.

:shrug:

Delirium

Jul 15, 2010, 3:46 PM

Traynor

Jul 15, 2010, 3:59 PM

that's not elitist, that's just dumb. there are condos in Toronto for every income category. from super high end to Plazacorp (budget). you need a healthy balance of all not just high end. your comment makes no sense.

and yes, adding extras such a exterior granite costs a lot more. duh. who do you think absorbs those costs? the developer? :haha:

Wow, aren't you pleasant.

I critiqued a concept and you attacked a person. Allow me to lower myself to your level. Only a jerk needs to attack a person and not refute the argument. Not understanding the concept of supply and demand and how it relates to value and therefore to pricing of certain residential areas is being DUMB.

Also allow me to clarify... I meant stop building for the first-time buyer DOWNTOWN. Desirable areas only remain so when you have exclusivity. If you want a cheap condo you live in the suburbs. Uptown should have been much more high-end considering its location. Yet it has all the appeal of something on Hurontario... Oh wait, that's insulting to Mississauga, because even they are building condos with more pizazz than Uptown.

Furthermore, the buyers in Mississauga seem to be able to afford these extras that developers are tacking on to their buildings. Why not at Yonge and Bloor?

Delirium

Jul 15, 2010, 5:25 PM

Also allow me to clarify... I meant stop building for the first-time buyer DOWNTOWN. Desirable areas only remain so when you have exclusivity. If you want a cheap condo you live in the suburbs. Uptown should have been much more high-end considering its location. Yet it has all the appeal of something on Hurontario....

you know what you end up with you if you do that? Vancouver. a growing imbalance of only high-end condos and not much else (unless you want to rent in the west end). for any downtown to be healthy and viable, you need all income types and not just wealthy.

WhipperSnapper

Jul 15, 2010, 10:30 PM

Uptown reflects the Pemberton Group under Marco Muzzo. It is a high end building regardless what you think of it. I don't see any granite in Cityplace which is geared towards the affordable.

Overall, the window walls in downtown Toronto are of better quality than Mississauga. Not many of their glass towers employ glass spandrel.

Keep in mind when you factor out the cost of land, Mississauga City Centre isn't any cheaper to build than Downtown Toronto.

bob1954

Jul 16, 2010, 4:32 AM

That thjing or roof or whatever on Chicago condos is rediculous. That looks like a great building without tha "Pancake" on top!

RTA

Jul 16, 2010, 2:46 PM

^
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f207/goldstalk/CultofthePancakeBunny.jpg

steveve

Jul 16, 2010, 4:27 PM

looks like 300 front has official started construction :D!

http://urbantoronto.ca/content.php?876-300-Front-St-West-Condo-By-Tridel-Starts-Construction

***Looks like it will be very high up on this list :)

rapid_business

Jul 16, 2010, 5:14 PM

Yup, I really like 300 Front. Great looking building. If only that hydro sub-station behind it didn't exist.

WhipperSnapper

Jul 16, 2010, 10:48 PM

I'm quite concerned how the actual 300 Front will compare the rendering. This is Tridel and their latest glass tower aren't exactly thrilling me. Wallman may be the architect but final say goes to Tridel.

Delirium

Jul 17, 2010, 12:09 AM

SFUVancouver

Jul 17, 2010, 1:05 AM

Hotel Georgia Tower from Georgia and Howe Street.
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4327/hotelgeorgiatowerno1jul.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 16th, 2010.

Hotel Georiga Tower again. Awesome.
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6171/hotelgeorgiatowerno2jul.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 16th, 2010.

steveve

Jul 17, 2010, 2:06 AM

^ if you look at the scale model of the building, it will give you a better indication of what it will look like.

Image 10,11,12 of 21 (click on Presentation Centre Photography)
http://www.tridel.com/300front/gallery.php

Looks pretty run of the mill to me. The renderings make it look much better imo.

Thanks for postin that link... i never realized how wide its gonna be on its sides!

Nonetheless... i hope this thing turns out as close as possible to the renders... I think the tower in design is awesome (esp. with that park on the corner).

Fingers crossed for 300front :D

caltrane74

Jul 18, 2010, 12:12 AM

by me

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5778/sany1679y.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 18, 2010, 7:27 AM

by Mike in TO at UT

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4118/4800215030_176b53dc00_z.jpg

Burano, building out the Bay Streetwall.

caltrane74

Jul 18, 2010, 6:19 PM

by me

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caltrane74

Jul 19, 2010, 3:20 AM

You guys like chicks...?

I took this video today

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The girls cant help themselves...

they love ole' cal

caltrane74

Jul 19, 2010, 4:23 PM

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5159/sany1778.jpg

by me.

steveve

Jul 19, 2010, 4:57 PM

You guys like chicks...?

I took this video today

D-krqDOoLvg

The girls cant help themselves...

they love ole' cal

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stalker 101 right there caltrane! :haha: she's got some nice swag goin on there :tup:

caltrane74

Jul 19, 2010, 8:10 PM

dont follow me, im bad.

Very Bad!

caltrane74

Jul 20, 2010, 4:37 PM

Pinnacle Centre 4 - (33 Bay Street)

from Jasonzed at UT

from today...
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100719123.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100719118.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100719116.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100719034.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100719013.jpg

Will join its brother in due time...
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100719007.jpg

steveve

Jul 20, 2010, 6:23 PM

If you ask me, Success tower is one of the nicer looking green condos out there :D!

caltrane74

Jul 21, 2010, 11:42 AM

by me

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6681/sany1794.jpg

Coldrsx

Jul 21, 2010, 2:30 PM

Epcor last night by yours truly

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/misc%20photos/DSC04915.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 22, 2010, 4:37 AM

by me

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/1731/sany1798.jpg

Coldrsx

Jul 22, 2010, 4:40 AM

Dirigible mooring masts on EPCOR Tower -By 'brenGT2'

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4816492099_1a6dec13d9_o.jpg

caltrane74

Jul 22, 2010, 10:38 AM

Tower 4 moving up another level...from late this afternoon...tower 5 moved up a level yesterday...
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100721a080.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100721a073.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100721a069.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100721a067.jpg

From this morning...
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100721a044.jpg

from jasonzed in the main construction thread.

caltrane74

Jul 22, 2010, 8:22 PM

from ultran00b at UT

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4756734244_1a7fb2ab71_b.jpg

you can see 33 Bay Street (aka success tower 2) at Pinnacle Centre rising... and you will see how dense this part of the skyline will be in a couple of years when its finished, then of course ICE I and ICE II.

Just crazy. Dubai, yer getting spanked, do something about it man!

Coldrsx

Jul 22, 2010, 8:40 PM

"Just crazy. Dubai, yer getting spanked, do something about it man!"

yah no.

caltrane74

Jul 22, 2010, 8:41 PM

"Just crazy. Dubai, yer getting spanked, do something about it man!"

yah no.

Don't let Traynor brainwash you. We ARE building more towers than Dubai..

Traynor never backed up his bullshit, with facts. Until then, the gods at skyscraperpage have Toronto way out in front of bye-bye Dubai!

b.

Coldrsx

Jul 22, 2010, 8:42 PM

Than say "playing catch up" not spanking.

caltrane74

Jul 22, 2010, 8:45 PM

goodloard... semantics..

alright!

WhipperSnapper

Jul 22, 2010, 8:52 PM

Interesting. 55 buildings under construction of which more than half are over 200 metres and a quarter are over 300 metres make sense to you? The possibility that the list is grossly incomplete never cross your mind?

Possibly in five years time but, right now Toronto is undeniably being spanked by Dubai tower wise

caltrane74

Jul 22, 2010, 9:27 PM

Traynor

Jul 22, 2010, 11:59 PM

Is it possible, they dont build mid rises in Dubai, probably yes. At least until they decide that they would also like streetscape in addition to skyline.

You can even call the place a real city just a collection of monster towers... no hip vybe... like were rocking here.

I have never been to Dubai and I hazard to guess neither have you Cal. It is always wise to actually experience and KNOW what you are talking about before you talk so much smack.

Just sayin'

:D

caltrane74

Jul 23, 2010, 12:24 AM

Of course Ive never been to Dubai. Who in their right mind wants to go to Dubai and get arrested for checking chicks, muslim or otherwise....

They will never be a real free trading city like the Anglo cities... London, New York, Hong Kong, Sydney, or Singapore.

They are fakers.....their laws cant match the common law and self determination of civilized countries that allow you to checkchicks freely.

steveve

Jul 23, 2010, 2:42 AM

Dubai and toronto.... cannot be compared (economics, governments, demographics, etc....) :haha:

Photos from today (july 22)

Uptown, Crystal, Casa: they all are great contributions to the yorkville area! Imagine these views 2 years ago..... i know, they sucked :p

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4820083972_dc8bf9f725_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4819472293_b77b55568f_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/4820091852_4f22290cbc_b.jpg

X Condo,

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4819465683_3728dab711_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4819467865_df9defe553_b.jpg

All photos by me: steveve :D

bob1954

Jul 23, 2010, 4:14 AM

Now ask everyone were they would rather live.... Toronto, Calgary or probably anyplace in North America, hands down. A lot of those towers in Dubai will probably stay empty for a long time!

WhipperSnapper

Jul 23, 2010, 10:52 AM

I was in Dubai around 2005ish. A lot has change since but that's more beside the point. Deira had a fairly complete medium rise density that you don't really see in Toronto and I was hoping the Entertainment District would eventually look like.

Arrested for checking out chicks?!? Dubai is selling itself as a resort to Euros where their can fulfill any guilty pleasure for the right price. As usual, you're logic is totally flawed.

steveve

Jul 23, 2010, 6:29 PM

Dubai is one huge amusement park, its got exciting architecture, skyscrapers, attractions, etc.... I love it!, its a good, thing, but they're in over their heads.

As long as i'm not the one paying for it all, its all good! :whip:

WhipperSnapper

Jul 24, 2010, 1:09 AM

More opinions ... I guess I'll share my own.

Dubai offers the lifestyle 80% of North Americans live. It's a tacky, supersized Mississauga. That hardly makes it an amusement park. Dubai's biggest impediment is the common religion which is far too selective in regard to citizenry. There is nothing to keep immigrants from leaving once the money runs out.

caltrane74

Jul 24, 2010, 4:18 AM

So my feelings are known on this matter...
Dubai, if it were not for itz emirate brethren in Abu Daubi would not be building skyscrapers. No Western bank will lend money for this foly. And can you believe that these emiratee with their finite resources of oil, choose to spend it on self aggrandizement rather than building a truely stable world trading centre. Thats why I said they will never be a trading centre of the Anglo Model Style : London, Hong Kong, Singapore, New York, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar, Bahamas...etc, etc. Real trading centres that make money from money. Dubai will never be this, because their government doesn't have a common law to protect the ordinary man from the powers of the state government or religion (ie zealots). So if you can't trust the government, would you ever invest 1 or 2 billion dollars there. nope of course not. They are already out of money, they can't keep that show on for much longer before the house of cards falls in on them. And we all sat here laughing our asses off, just like we did last November, when they went broke and had to beg for Money from Abu Dahbi's oil reserves.

so they could finish building skyscrapers? huh? wtf?

makes no sense, makes no money.

you need an economy where people can think freely to create to generate real wealth.. this will never happen in Dubai.

Even the cave men/Barbarians of medieval times battling the Romans knew the value of real trade, to expand knowledge and wealth. well shit, its 1200 years later and these fools still haven't figured it out.

give me a break

Gresto

Jul 24, 2010, 5:26 AM

Dubai is selling itself as a resort to Euros where their can fulfill any guilty pleasure for the right price. As usual, you're logic is totally flawed.
Interesting.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/08/british-woman-arrested-dubai
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1257688/I-kissed-tourist-cheek-says-Briton-jailed-Dubai.html
http://www.jaunted.com/story/2009/6/28/105131/305/travel/Dubai+Tourist+Arrested+For+Wearing+Nude+Posh+Spice+Tee
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-8401.html/
http://www.nowpublic.com/strange/79-uncouth-sunbathers-arrested-dubai

And that's just part of the first page of search results.

WhipperSnapper

Jul 24, 2010, 2:12 PM

What's your point? No where did I say it's all out in the open. As I also said, for the right price. Dubai is a more extreme situation but you do realize drinking in public outside of designated areas and/or public drunkeness is subject to arrest in Toronto. So is sex and nudity.

Gresto

Jul 24, 2010, 7:40 PM

What's your point? No where did I say it's all out in the open.
My point is, Dubai is not the bastion of hedonism you make it out to be, therefore it's rich of you to point to someone's logic being flawed (especially with the misspelling of "your", though that has less to do with logic than English conversancy). Dubai is a pretend city trying to lure rich Westerners with promises of unbridled decadence and debauchery, all the while swaddled in the laws and customs of conservative Islam. A makeshift Vegas without the freedom. Neither city holds the slightest attraction for me.
As I also said, for the right price. Dubai is a more extreme situation but you do realize drinking in public outside of designated areas and/or public drunkeness is subject to arrest in Toronto. So is sex and nudity.
Drunkenness, depending on the behaviour of the drunk in question. It's more a matter of public disorder (causing trouble while drunk). I don't know offhand about full nudity (I believe it's still illegal in public, though folks get away with it during the gay parade), but women can legally walk topless anywhere in Ontario.

Traynor

Jul 24, 2010, 9:22 PM

...therefore it's rich of you to point to someone's logic being flawed (especially with the misspelling of "your", though that has less to do with logic than English conversancy).

Misspelled "your"? Did you want him to spell you're as in you are? That would make no sense grammatically. What is you are point? That makes no sense. Now I'm really confused.

:koko:

edit... Never mind... You were referring to what he wrote several posts previous.

WhipperSnapper

Jul 24, 2010, 9:59 PM

Whatever. You seem more concern over my grammar than reading I wrote. I said Dubai is a resort with all the amenites one can expect to be offered and that it's a burgeoning business hub offers the prototypic suburban lifestyle. I also added that its conflict with its Islamic idealism could be its downfall. Calling the Emirate fake and latching onto some third party pieces as gospel is just laziness.

Gresto

Jul 24, 2010, 10:25 PM

Misspelled "your"? Did you want him to spell you're as in you are? That would make no sense grammatically. What is you are point? That makes no sense. Now I'm really confused.

As usual, you're logic is totally flawed.
In that sentence "your" is correct, not "you're", which should be obvious to anyone with a working knowledge of English. The only reason I raised it was because of his sarcastic remark about faulty logic. But anyway...
Whatever. You seem more concern over my grammar than reading I wrote. I said Dubai is a resort with all the amenites one can expect to be offered and that it's a burgeoning business hub offers the prototypic suburban lifestyle. I also added that its conflict with its Islamic idealism could be its downfall. Calling the Emirate fake and latching onto some third party pieces as gospel is just laziness.
I hate when people can't concede to being wrong. It's a personality defect. Dubai is fake by definition, because it's a calculated, manufactured city, not one that has grown organically over decades and centuries. Twenty years ago it was a nondescript intersection in the desert. Now its billionaire makers are reaping what they sowed, with buildings standing empty left and right. You yourself called it "a tacky, supersized Mississauga", so I guess you lazily latched onto some gospel.:rolleyes:

But we have digressed long enough.

Traynor

Jul 24, 2010, 10:39 PM

In that sentence "your" is correct, not "you're", which should be obvious to anyone with a working knowledge of English. The only reason I raised it was because of his sarcastic remark about faulty logic. But anyway...

I hate when people can't concede to being wrong. It's a personality defect. Dubai is fake by definition, because it's a calculated, manufactured city, not one that has grown organically over decades and centuries. Twenty years ago it was a nondescript intersection in the desert. Now its billionaire makers are reaping what they sowed, with buildings standing empty left and right. You yourself called it "a tacky, supersized Mississauga", so I guess you lazily latched onto some gospel.:rolleyes:

But we have digressed long enough.

Wow, you have reached new heights of doucebaggery. (Or is that lows?) Seriously arrogant statements. You sound like you think you own the rights to being right and the rest of us must have forgotten to pay our royalties to you.

Keep it as an opinion and perhaps we could swallow the crap your are spoon feeding us.

Gresto

Jul 24, 2010, 11:57 PM

Wow, you have reached new heights of doucebaggery. (Or is that lows?) Seriously arrogant statements. You sound like you think you own the rights to being right and the rest of us must have forgotten to pay our royalties to you.

Keep it as an opinion and perhaps we could swallow the crap your are spoon feeding us.
Wow, is the above ever a reeking pile of shit! Hey, pal, I just stepped in to defend another poster from a condescending remark written by someone who sounds like a self-satisfied would-be know-it-all. How that magnanimous gesture became warped into my being a douchebag is something only you can know. I am neither a jerk, nor arrogant.
And by the way, everything on internet forums is opinion unless it is declared factual and backed up by data. I shouldn't have to append everything I write with, "in my opinion".

steveve

Jul 25, 2010, 2:03 AM

I was listening to the radio for the past few days and apparently a "popular american website" listed toronto as king of cool... i think its a bit overblown. :shrug:

And can we please stop arguing about the stupidest things (especially personal attacks... you guys know you'll be banned for that?) :haha: ?. seriously.:old: :gtfo2: :yeahthat :offtopic:

Afterall, i'm da BOSS :haha:!!!!
cheers,

caltrane74

Jul 25, 2010, 3:52 AM

steveve

Jul 25, 2010, 1:11 PM

OMG just 3 posts away from 11,000!!!! celebrate!
well fuk 8 years of my life (wasted?), at least I got this to show for it!!
ha!

haha! you're at 11,000 now!... EPIC :banana: !!!!

WhipperSnapper

Jul 25, 2010, 2:18 PM

In that sentence "your" is correct, not "you're", which should be obvious to anyone with a working knowledge of English. The only reason I raised it was because of his sarcastic remark about faulty logic. But anyway...

I hate when people can't concede to being wrong. It's a personality defect. Dubai is fake by definition, because it's a calculated, manufactured city, not one that has grown organically over decades and centuries. Twenty years ago it was a nondescript intersection in the desert. Now its billionaire makers are reaping what they sowed, with buildings standing empty left and right. You yourself called it "a tacky, supersized Mississauga", so I guess you lazily latched onto some gospel.:rolleyes:

But we have digressed long enough.

I'm only wrong by you're definition which make little sense to me. Firstly, Dubai covers more than Sheik Zayad Road.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Deira_on_18_October_2007_Pict_1.jpg

Secondly, you're implying Toronto or modern Tokyo are fake in comparison to London or Paris which have develop at a nostalgically slow pace .

Gresto

Jul 25, 2010, 6:58 PM

I'm only wrong by you're definition which make little sense to me. Firstly, Dubai covers more than Sheik Zayad Road.
1992:
http://savecivilization.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/Dubai1992.jpg
Secondly, you're implying Toronto or modern Tokyo are fake in comparison to London or Paris which have develop at a nostalgically slow pace .
:koko: I have implied no such thing. Toronto is over 200 years old and has grown naturally through immigration. Infrastructure and buildings weren't just installed en masse and willy-nilly with the hope they would attract immigration.

Moving along...anything new on the Canada's Tallest U/C #11 - #30 front?

WhipperSnapper

Jul 25, 2010, 7:28 PM

You may be eloquent with your vocabulary and grammar but there's something to say when you post an old picture of Sheik Zayad Road after someone just said there is more to Dubai than Sheik Zayad Road.

The buildings going up in Dubai are mostly being re-leased and/or pre-sold before shovels hit the ground. I have no idea where you are getting this idea that its all being spec built and not through demand from resettlement.

The level of development and expansion is no different than posting a circa 1965 photo of York Mills Road and comparing it to one from the 1980s.

caltrane74

Jul 26, 2010, 4:36 AM

by me

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4529/sany1985.jpg

Coldrsx

Jul 26, 2010, 4:45 AM

From my Indy post this weekend

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/misc%20photos/DSC_0966.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/misc%20photos/DSC_0858.jpg

vanman

Jul 26, 2010, 5:34 AM

11. Absolute World tower 1 - 178 meters ( Mississauga)
12. Burano - 163 (Toronto)
13. Absolute World Tower 2 - 160 Meters (Mississauga)
14. Uptown - 160 Meters (Toronto-Yorkville)
15. Hotel Georgia 158 Meters (Vancouver)
16. Festival Tower 157 Meters (Toronto)
17. 300 Front Street West - 156 Meters (Toronto)
18. 33 Bay Street (Pinnacle Centre) - 156 Meters (Toronto)
19 Star Tower 152 Meters (Toronto-Etobicoke)
20 epcor 150 Meters (Edmonton)
21 X Condo 138 20
22 Clear Spirit 136 Meters (Toronto)
23. Natualitis. 130 Meters (Toronto)
24. Crystal Blu - 129 Meters (Toronto-Yorkville)
25. Parade - 128 Meters (Toronto)
26-. Solaris - 127 Meters (Toronto)
26. Solarris - 127 Meters (Toronto)
27. Patina - 126 Meters (Vancouver)
28. Capitol Residences 126 Meters (Vancouver)
29 Couture - 126 Meters (Toronto)
30 18 York - 126 Meters (Toronto)

Any updates to this list, or are we still good here?

OMG just 3 posts away from 11,000!!!! celebrate!
well fuk 8 years of my life (wasted?), at least I got this to show for it!!
ha!

This list is missing "The Mark" in Vancouver which is 140m and the site is currently being excavated.

onni posted new renderings on their website and the tower looks much bluer now. i like this!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/234.jpg
http://www.themarkvancouver.com/

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/232.jpg
http://www.themarkvancouver.com/

pacific street frontage
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/oct2gon/wew.jpg
http://www.themarkvancouver.com/

caltrane74

Jul 26, 2010, 5:51 AM

im gonna watch robocop, can you do the honours and update the list in a new post, and I'll copy and paste into into the first page.

Goodlookin' will make the update to the main skyscraper diagrams page once he backchecks the information to confirm it's underway...

nighty night. :)

caltrane74

Jul 26, 2010, 7:24 PM

from khristopher at UT

http://f3nx0g.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pxiuy3lBCdqvOoZTW6il4bg2msiueV9Y13yN7rhaZCsVERWDIH2APJHvl9IVv78dcINaoLQg2A-n_8bYFksMYh8JTWZV50czc/Lightbox%20%26%20Festival%20Tower%20-%2007.26.2010%20(2).jpg

steveve

Jul 26, 2010, 7:46 PM

The 300 Front Street West construction camera (http://www.ucitonline.com/300front/)is now live.

http://www.ucitonline.com/300front/images/image1.jpg

cool stuff

WhipperSnapper

Jul 26, 2010, 11:46 PM

Goodlookin' will make the update to the main skyscraper diagrams page once he backchecks the information to confirm it's underway

The Mark has been listed as under construction in the SSP for a while. It's just not tall enough to crack the Top 30.

11. Absolute World tower 1 - 178 meters ( Mississauga)
12. Burano - 163 (Toronto)
13. Absolute World Tower 2 - 160 Meters (Mississauga)
14. Uptown - 160 Meters (Toronto-Yorkville)
15. Hotel Georgia 158 Meters (Vancouver)
16. Festival Tower 157 Meters (Toronto)
17. 300 Front Street West - 156 Meters (Toronto)
18. 33 Bay Street (Pinnacle Centre) - 156 Meters (Toronto)
19 Star Tower 152 Meters (Toronto-Etobicoke)
20 epcor 150 Meters (Edmonton)
21 X Condo 138 metres --out
21 Cinema Condos 142.8 --in
22 Grand Residences 139 --in
23 Clear Spirit 136 Meters (Toronto)
24. Natualitis. 130 Meters (Toronto)
25. Crystal Blu - 129 Meters (Toronto-Yorkville)
26. Parade - 128 Meters (Toronto)
27. Solaris - 127 Meters (Toronto)
27. Solarris - 127 Meters (Toronto)
29. Patina - 126 Meters (Vancouver)
30. Capitol Residences 126 Meters (Vancouver)

caltrane74

Jul 27, 2010, 1:53 AM

Frontpage has been updated....

Coldrsx

Jul 27, 2010, 3:37 AM

A few Epcor Tower shots from tonight...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/misc%20photos/DSC_0971.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/misc%20photos/DSC_0973.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/misc%20photos/DSC_0975.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/misc%20photos/DSC_0986.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/misc%20photos/DSC_0984.jpg

Metro-One

Jul 27, 2010, 5:21 AM

The Mark has been listed as under construction in the SSP for a while. It's just not tall enough to crack the Top 30.

11. Absolute World tower 1 - 178 meters ( Mississauga)
12. Burano - 163 (Toronto)
13. Absolute World Tower 2 - 160 Meters (Mississauga)
14. Uptown - 160 Meters (Toronto-Yorkville)
15. Hotel Georgia 158 Meters (Vancouver)
16. Festival Tower 157 Meters (Toronto)
17. 300 Front Street West - 156 Meters (Toronto)
18. 33 Bay Street (Pinnacle Centre) - 156 Meters (Toronto)
19 Star Tower 152 Meters (Toronto-Etobicoke)
20 epcor 150 Meters (Edmonton)
21 X Condo 138 metres --out
21 Cinema Condos 142.8 --in
22 Grand Residences 139 --in
23 Clear Spirit 136 Meters (Toronto)
24. Natualitis. 130 Meters (Toronto)
25. Crystal Blu - 129 Meters (Toronto-Yorkville)
26. Parade - 128 Meters (Toronto)
27. Solaris - 127 Meters (Toronto)
27. Solarris - 127 Meters (Toronto)
29. Patina - 126 Meters (Vancouver)
30. Capitol Residences 126 Meters (Vancouver)

Umm, unless I am missing something at 140m tall it sure is tall enough. In the list above that would place it as #21.