[sirkingwilliam]

San Antonio as well as Dallas, Houston and possibly South Padre Island. That is depending on whether Texas legalizes gambling.

http://www.ksat.com/video/15218758/index.html?taf=ibs

[Dom"n"Converse]

I wish something like that could happen, but I don't see it in the near future; So long as we have people who don't want other people, people they don't know, ever see, or have any relationship to, gambling, it won't pass. :(

[SAguy]

I wish something like that could happen, but I don't see it in the near future; So long as we have people who don't want other people, people they don't know, ever see, or have any relationship to, gambling, it won't pass. :(

I believe the video said 80% of Texans would vote for gambling. So it's very likely that casinos will eventually enter Texas.

[KevinFromTexas]

Well, Rick Perry and the other like minded politicians would block it. Until we have another Democrat governor you can forget about legalized gambling in Texas. Even if 80% of Texans want the chance to vote on the issue, which indicates they're in favor of legalizing it, the politicians would still take steps to block it.

As for me, it doesn't appeal to me much. I don't have a conservative bone in my body, but the whole casino scene just doesn't appeal to me. Tacky designs and themes, suburban like planning. There had been plans a few years back by some developers to develop about 10 blocks of Austin's southeastern corner of downtown with several highrise casinos/hotels along Waller Creek. That was actually pretty cool and would have been a great boon to that area of downtown. Of course it was just a pipe dream, but they even had renderings and site plans drawn out and even offered to build a flood diversion tunnel under the creek.

Really I'd hate to see a lot of huge casinos sprout up in downtown. I think they're a waste of land, especially in downtown.

[Saddle Man]

Las Vegas Sands better get their bribes ready if they ever want to see casino gambling in Texas.

[ydoc14]

I think Vegas should stay Vegas and let San Antonio stay San Antonio. Gambling in SA is going to clash with the family-friendly tourism that makes SA what it is.

[Schertz1]

I would rather see it in one of the mid-cities like New Braunfels or San Marcos, not San Antonio.

[Austin55]

I sure hope not. Casinos are so ugly,and though Vegas is nice,I dont want there reputation here.

[Trae]

Would be nice for Galveston to have some casinos on the beach, and maybe one in Downtown Houston.

[SAguy]

I'm not surprise to hear some peeps from Austin be against Casinos. I'm sure it would have been different if the Sands Corp. mentioned Austin as a possible site. As for S.A., I believe our mayor has already said he doesn't want Casinos on the Riverwalk but open to other parts of S.A.

[DruidCity]

I would rather see it in one of the mid-cities like New Braunfels or San Marcos

I would love that :banana:

Honestly, though, I think the biggest impact of Texas casinos might be felt in western Louisiana cities like Shreveport and Lake Charles that derive significant income from casino visitors from Texas. If Houston had its own casinos, who the hell would go to Lake Charles :haha:

[sirkingwilliam]

I'd be all for casino's if they were built in the at&t center area of east San Antonio. Anything to get that area going.

[Boquillas]

Casinos are god-awful. Even if you discount the exploitative swindle that inexplicably lures so many, they are simply tasteless- the crass, dollar-worshipping, born-of-organized-crime mindset responsible for Vegas and Atlantic City can stay the hell out of Texas.

Casinos are legal in Montana, and they are just depressing. Nothing but lonely, staggering souls seem to go in and out of them.

[Complex01]

:previous:

That is very true. Its a very ugly business. Just leave them were they are at. We are just fine with out them...

:yes:

[Trae]

I don't see what is so wrong with casinos. Maybe when I get older, but Harrah's in New Orleans is doing fine. Creates a lot of business in a Downtown/Urban setting.

[Boquillas]

Not everything that generates business or employs people is a "good" thing. Wars are (usually) great for the economy.

[ydoc14]

Casinos are god-awful. Even if you discount the exploitative swindle that inexplicably lures so many, they are simply tasteless- the crass, dollar-worshipping, born-of-organized-crime mindset responsible for Vegas and Atlantic City can stay the hell out of Texas.

Casinos are legal in Montana, and they are just depressing. Nothing but lonely, staggering souls seem to go in and out of them.

I agree, and kudos for being bold enough to say it :tup:

[satxgreen]

why not?? it can be just another way to pay for the roads!!!! and stop turning highways in to toll roads!! its a nice start...

[southsideatx04]

Well, Rick Perry and the other like minded politicians would block it. Until we have another Democrat governor you can forget about legalized gambling in Texas. Even if 80% of Texans want the chance to vote on the issue, which indicates they're in favor of legalizing it, the politicians would still take steps to block it.

As for me, it doesn't appeal to me much. I don't have a conservative bone in my body, but the whole casino scene just doesn't appeal to me. Tacky designs and themes, suburban like planning. There had been plans a few years back by some developers to develop about 10 blocks of Austin's southeastern corner of downtown with several highrise casinos/hotels along Waller Creek. That was actually pretty cool and would have been a great boon to that area of downtown. Of course it was just a pipe dream, but they even had renderings and site plans drawn out and even offered to build a flood diversion tunnel under the creek.

Really I'd hate to see a lot of huge casinos sprout up in downtown. I think they're a waste of land, especially in downtown.

I'm not surprise to hear some peeps from Austin be against Casinos. I'm sure it would have been different if the Sands Corp. mentioned Austin as a possible site. As for S.A., I believe our mayor has already said he doesn't want Casinos on the Riverwalk but open to other parts of S.A.

What do you mean by that and did you see kevin's post? how would it be different if sands wanted to be in austin?

[bresilhac]

Las Vegas Sands better get their bribes ready if they ever want to see casino gambling in Texas.

There may be more truth to that statement then you may have originally believed. If the Las Vegas businessmen who want to bring casinos to Texas really want the project to go through they will make sure that "contributions" make their way to the right politicians in Austin. If this happens then we could all very well see big time casinos here regardless of who is governor.

[sirkingwilliam]

Like I said before, I'd be all game for casino's if the right locations within SA are chosen.

[verbl]

Same here, I saw on ksat12.com that the governor doesn't like the idea to much.

[verbl]

I'd be all for casino's if they were built in the at&t center area of east San Antonio. Anything to get that area going.

That would be great for that area for sure, great idea

[Trae]

Same here, I saw on ksat12.com that the governor doesn't like the idea to much.

Fuck the governor. I hate Rick Perry.

[verbl]

Fuck the governor. I hate Rick Perry.

I love the subtlety lol

[sirkingwilliam]

That would be great for that area for sure, great idea

A large casino/mixed-use development there would (imo) be quite successful and help transform that area. You'd get additional development and housing. It would be a 24/7 Entertainment District. Plus, you then have an area to add future stadiums for the NFL or MLB.

[verbl]

^^^ Oh yeah I forgot you were my buddy with the MLB and NFL, did not think of the potential that a resort like this would give a better chance to land another team.




Side note- I watched the Spurs play the pacers last tuesday and it was not only an epic beat down I saw Damon Play his first game ever as a Spur. Okay just wanted to talk about the Spurs :)

[sirkingwilliam]

I don't know realistically how much better a chance a casino would give to another major pro sports team but would establish a 24/7 entertainment district that would be an ideal location for said team.

[Jdawgboy]

I'm not surprise to hear some peeps from Austin be against Casinos. I'm sure it would have been different if the Sands Corp. mentioned Austin as a possible site. As for S.A., I believe our mayor has already said he doesn't want Casinos on the Riverwalk but open to other parts of S.A.

What is that supposed to mean? excuse me but so what that Austin, wasn't named as one of the sites, this is one Casino company. If gambling was legal in Texas you can be assured that somebody would build something in Austin as well. As Kevin mentioned ealier, we have had our share of casino proposals. But this is the thing on Casino's, Sure they are glitzy and big and can draw tourism but I personally wouldn't want something that really can end up causing just as many problems as what it would do for the economy. Talk about compulsive gamblers, people who loose everything not to mention that it can draw crime as well. I would rather have something that would be good for the community as a whole.

[sirkingwilliam]

Oh for the sake of humanity, please don't let your fractured ego ruin this thread as well. Enough! Take that shit elsewhere.

[Raining Inside]

I'm all for casinos where ever they are built in Texas. Any time you can get people to voluntarily pay taxes it benefits the entire state. Las Vegas didn't become far and away the fastest growing metro in the nation without casinos.

[texastarkus]

Casinos will never happen in Texas because this is the center of the Bible belt and the buckle goes right over Texas. It took years and years to get the lottery thru.

[sirkingwilliam]

Never say never.

[KevinFromTexas]

I'm not surprise to hear some peeps from Austin be against Casinos. I'm sure it would have been different if the Sands Corp. mentioned Austin as a possible site. As for S.A., I believe our mayor has already said he doesn't want Casinos on the Riverwalk but open to other parts of S.A.

How was my post anti-San Antonio? I'll assume you were talking about me since I was the first guy from Austin to post anything. And it was NOT anti-San Antonio. Seriouisly, stop whining. And I'm anything but anti-San Antonio. Give me a break, I was born there, how many of you San Antonio forumers were actually born in San Antonio?

[SAguy]

How was my post anti-San Antonio? I'll assume you were talking about me since I was the first guy from Austin to post anything. And it was NOT anti-San Antonio. Seriouisly, stop whining. And I'm anything but anti-San Antonio. Give me a break, I was born there, how many of you San Antonio forumers were actually born in San Antonio?

There's no whining. Again, I simply said "I'm not surprise people from Austin are against casinos." BTW, I never said you were anti-S.A. Please stop reading into something that's not there.

Jdawgboy--But this is the thing on Casino's, Sure they are glitzy and big and can draw tourism but I personally wouldn't want something that really can end up causing just as many problems as what it would do for the economy
What?!?

[KevinFromTexas]

There's no whining. Again, I simply said "I'm not surprise people from Austin are against casinos." BTW, I never said you were anti-S.A. Please stop reading into something that's not there.

Fair enough. I just don't want anyone thinking I'd bash San Antonio. Constructive criticism is one thing, but bashing is another.

[Dallascaper]

[QUOTE=KevinFromTexas;3333346]Well, Rick Perry and the other like minded politicians would block it. Until we have another Democrat governor you can forget about legalized gambling in Texas. Even if 80% of Texans want the chance to vote on the issue, which indicates they're in favor of legalizing it, the politicians would still take steps to block it.QUOTE]


Considering that Texas had 100 years of Democratic governors and legislatures, and none of those people legalized casinos, I am not sure what you are hanging your hat on.

And people need to understand that it’s more than just the bible thumpers who oppose casinos. Very large and influential business interests, such as the horse tracks, lotto, restaurants, almost any kind of existing entertainment industry all oppose casinos.

It seems like every 10 or 15 years we have this debate, and every time casinos gets shot down.

[Saddle Man]

Yeah. Casinos would take away all the money that nobody is spending at the tracks. Or the lottery for that matter.

[Dallascaper]

Yeah. Casinos would take away all the money that nobody is spending at the tracks. Or the lottery for that matter.

True, the horse racing industry is hurting, which is why they want slots to increase revenues. But horse racing does not want 'Vegas-style' casinos - those would kill of the race tracks for good. As for the lottery, people blow millions on that nonsense every week; I would hardly say that 'nobody' is spending money on it.

Personally, I am not thrilled with the idea of casinos coming to DFW. I lived in LV about 10 years ago and found that I couldn't control my gambling. The casinos are designed to separate you from your money – they are very good at it. The day I gambled away my truck payment was the day I decided to come back to Texas.

[southsideatx04]

[QUOTE=KevinFromTexas;3333346]Well, Rick Perry and the other like minded politicians would block it. Until we have another Democrat governor you can forget about legalized gambling in Texas. Even if 80% of Texans want the chance to vote on the issue, which indicates they're in favor of legalizing it, the politicians would still take steps to block it.QUOTE]


Considering that Texas had 100 years of Democratic governors and legislatures, and none of those people legalized casinos, I am not sure what you are hanging your hat on.

And people need to understand that it’s more than just the bible thumpers who oppose casinos. Very large and influential business interests, such as the horse tracks, lotto, restaurants, almost any kind of existing entertainment industry all oppose casinos.

It seems like every 10 or 15 years we have this debate, and every time casinos gets shot down.

Texas History lesson, Democrats were Republicans and Republicans were Democrats and now roles have reversed.

[Saddle Man]

True, the horse racing industry is hurting, which is why they want slots to increase revenues. But horse racing does not want 'Vegas-style' casinos - those would kill of the race tracks for good. As for the lottery, people blow millions on that nonsense every week; I would hardly say that 'nobody' is spending money on it.

Personally, I am not thrilled with the idea of casinos coming to DFW. I lived in LV about 10 years ago and found that I couldn't control my gambling. The casinos are designed to separate you from your money – they are very good at it. The day I gambled away my truck payment was the day I decided to come back to Texas.

People are spending less and less money on the Lotto Texas. Jackpots have been lowered, and they don't increase at the pace (when there's no winner) that they once did. Megamillions is a little different since it's buoyed by a lot of states.

[Dallascaper]

People are spending less and less money on the Lotto Texas. Jackpots have been lowered, and they don't increase at the pace (when there's no winner) that they once did. Megamillions is a little different since it's buoyed by a lot of states.

That is wonderful, but you are missing my point. The point is that there are significant business interests in Texas who fear casinos; or are you suggesting that nobody spends money on restaurants, movies, theater, amusement parks, clubs, etc...?

I am not saying that casinos will never come to Texas, just that the bible people are not the only people who are opposed to them.

[Saddle Man]

That is wonderful, but you are missing my point. The point is that there are significant business interests in Texas who fear casinos; or are you suggesting that nobody spends money on restaurants, movies, theater, amusement parks, clubs, etc...?

I am not saying that casinos will never come to Texas, just that the bible people are not the only people who are opposed to them.

That is wonderful, but...huh? I wasn't arguing with whatever your point was about casinos. Maybe you meant to quote someone else. I'll just go with that story.

[ATXboom]

^^^ ha... this is funny stuff to watch. I expect some tude on most threads now. Good entertainment.

Casinos didn't help my home city of Detroit... though that was never a tourist town to begin with.

Weren't casinos brought up like 5 years ago for TX Legistlative vote?

[DrewDizzle]

as long as gambling = the devil's work and,
close-mindedness = texas politics, then...

...casinos won't be coming to TX.

aren't casinos really a tourist attraction to begin with? how many nevada residents spend their time at the slot machines?

[alexjon]

San Antonio would do itself well to fight for Casinos-- they provide jobs, revenue, a focal point for development, and ultimately return the investment initially made.

Texas as a whole isn't against gambling, even the really conservative folks. It is indeed the people at the top.

What's funny is that Rick Perry put himself all over the Comanche press saying he was one of us, was keen on the improvements made thanks to casino revenue, and then-- BAM! He's against it in the place he actually governs.

[Trae]

I hate Rick Perry.

[stranger]

Aren't casinos associated with increased crime of some sort or another?

I think casinos generally conjure up negative images for a city or state. Think "What happens in Vegas Stays In Vegas" commercials. A Casino in Dallas or Houston would destroy their reputations. And plus, Texans always have WinStar and Louisiana if they really want to gamble.

I REALLY hope this doesn't go through. I'm voting against it.

[Dallascaper]

as long as gambling = the devil's work and,
close-mindedness = texas politics, then...

...casinos won't be coming to TX.

aren't casinos really a tourist attraction to begin with? how many nevada residents spend their time at the slot machines?

A lot...and not just traditional slots, but video poker. The "locals" casino is big business in Nevada, not to mention downtown LV and the stip.

[LouisianaCharm]

personally, casinos dont help cities like houston or dallas. san antonio would do well with it, so would galveston, and corp. christi., but cities that cater to business travelers and not tourist generally bring down the reputation of their cities with casinos because no one but the locals go, and that brings down the economy of those areas.

[coddat]

Dallas was floating proposals for years for replacing Reunion Arena with a Casino Hotel. There are tons of people in the DFW area that go into Oklahoma or Louisiana for gambling. Shouldn't that money stay in the state? Don't forget that Las Vegas has one of the biggest and busiest convention centers in the country. I am willing to bet (ha) that 90% of convention goers there gamble as well.

[DruidCity]

Don't forget that Las Vegas has one of the biggest and busiest convention centers in the country. I am willing to bet (ha) that 90% of convention goers there gamble as well.

I know that I'm planning two "convention trips" this year, and both happen to be in Las Vegas. For engineering-related topics, it seems like a lot more "big" conferences are there than anywhere else. Some I've travelled with don't drink or gamble, but the restaurants, shows, grandeur of the hotels, and so on keep everyone happy.

I do think some states manage the introduction of casinos better than others. For instance, Mississippi restricts casinos to just selected areas, and the ones in Biloxi are generally very nice . Louisiana has a few nice ones but also allows the dinky "travel plaza" mini-casinos with the gas stations, and those look pretty junky. In Alabama, the only casino-style gaming we have is at dog tracks and Creek bingo parlors. The only one of these I've even bothered trying out is the nearby dog track, and it sucks. If you're going to do it, follow Mississippi's method.

[Mopacs]

I know that I'm planning two "convention trips" this year, and both happen to be in Las Vegas. For engineering-related topics, it seems like a lot more "big" conferences are there than anywhere else. Some I've travelled with don't drink or gamble, but the restaurants, shows, grandeur of the hotels, and so on keep everyone happy.

I do think some states manage the introduction of casinos better than others. For instance, Mississippi restricts casinos to just selected areas, and the ones in Biloxi are generally very nice . Louisiana has a few nice ones but also allows the dinky "travel plaza" mini-casinos with the gas stations, and those look pretty junky. In Alabama, the only casino-style gaming we have is at dog tracks and Creek bingo parlors. The only one of these I've even bothered trying out is the nearby dog track, and it sucks. If you're going to do it, follow Mississippi's method.

Completely agree... I'd like to see a limited number of 'districts' reserved for Gambling. Preferably less than 5 such areas statewide Will make those areas more of a destination. Example could include South Padre, or even lesser known areas along the Gulf Coast and inland. Just my 2 cents.