[verbl]

I don't know the Height Specs or completion date and I thought it deserves it's own thread. If anyone can edit this up to par feel free that includes the title thanks.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/verbl1/thebroadway.png

It will be located on Hildebrand Ave. and Broadway.

[KevinFromTexas]

Who are all the companies involved? The developer, and if possible the architect? I could send some emails and try and get the heights. I would like to know how tall it is. Surely it's going to be around ~230-250 feet tall.

[J.Dskyhigh]

I don't know the Height Specs or completion date and I thought it deserves it's own thread. If anyone can edit this up to par feel free that includes the title thanks.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/verbl1/thebroadway.png

It will be located on Hildebrand Ave. and Broadway.

I thought the Broadway already had a thread?

[verbl]

I think that we only talk about it on the metro and downtown update threads.

[starvinggryphon]

The hole they have excavated is massive and is quite deep, will there be underground parking?

[sirkingwilliam]

Yes.

[verbl]

The hole they have excavated is massive and is quite deep, will there be underground parking?

Awesome they should add that to the height lol

[Schertz1]

21 Mar 08


http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/broad2.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/Broadwaya.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/broadwayb.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/broadwayc.jpg

[KevinFromTexas]

Did you take that first shot from downtown?

[Schertz1]

16th floor of the crown Plaza

[Paul in S.A TX]

Is that 16th floor of Crown Plaza hotel or Office buiding? It must be the office building because the hotel is only 12 floors I think.

[Schertz1]

The crown plaza is 21 floors, if I'm not mistaken. You may be thinking of the holiday inn riverwalk, but I think it is also about 20 floors.

[KevinFromTexas]

Yeah, the Crown Plaza Hotel is one of your tallest buildings actually. 21 floors as Schertz1 mentioned, and it's 325 feet tall. It's actually the 7th tallest in the city, and 6th tallest in downtown. And the Holiday Inn Hotel is supposedly 24 floors. I think that number is wrong though, because the building is 228 feet tall. So for it be 24 floors, you'd think it would be at least 240 feet tall. So maybe it is 20 floors. I need to double check that the next time I'm in San Antonio.

So on the 16th floor, is there like a window at the end of the hallway or something? Near the elevators or something? I'm surprised the hotel doesn't have a card access to use the elevators. I'll have to check that out the next I'm in town and get some pics of the views.

Great pics again, I really enjoyed this set, Shertz1. Thanks.

[Schertz1]

There are some pretty good views from the CP, but none from the halls. I didn't see any windows.

[KevinFromTexas]

So where did you take these then? A hotel room?

[verbl]

yeah this is going to add some much needed height to the area, as well as property value.

[Schertz1]

Broadway 27 APR 08

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/030-1.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/031.jpg

[verbl]

Broadway 27 APR 08

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/030-1.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/031.jpg

Sweet update very very clean:) :) :cheers:

[Schertz1]

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/P5250129.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/P5250130.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/P5250131.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/schertz1/P5250132.jpg


The Broadway is now vertical.

[jaga185]

Alright, by the beginning of next year we should really see some impact.

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

This is a horrible location for a condo tower. Traffic at hildebran-browadway is bad enough as it is.

[sakyle04]

This is a horrible location for a condo tower. Traffic at hildebran-browadway is bad enough as it is.

By that logic, condo towers should only be built in exurban areas with light existing traffic. But that logic, my friend, is what got us into this mess. As an example, all of the poor souls who moved out 281 to escape the traffic ended up creating an even greater traffic mess than the one they ran from.

Condos increase density, which promotes alternative means of transportation, which should actually reduce traffic in time. Also, density promotes walkable, human-scaled neighborhoods, which take more cars off the road.

No matter. I doubt that 88 units (and their associated vehicles) will make much of a dent in the traffic flow there.

[texboy]

Well said Kyle.

[sirkingwilliam]

Unrelated to the topic but related to the area where The Broadway is going up.

For those wondering what will be put in the place of the little Texaco gas station that closed last year, well, some probably already know but it'll be a Wachovia Bank.

That's another good thing to come out of The Broadway as the Texaco gas station was an eyesore.

[sakyle04]

Well said Kyle.

thanks, thanks...

cold coffee, monday morning, and general boredom at work inspired me... :)

[sakyle04]

Unrelated to the topic but related to the area where The Broadway is going up.

For those wondering what will be put in the place of the little Texaco gas station that closed last year, well, some probably already know but it'll be a Wachovia Bank.

That's another good thing to come out of The Broadway as the Texaco gas station was an eyesore.

I had mixed emotions about that actually.

I mean, a lot of the SouthTown stuff was once “eyesore” that was reimagined and made very cool in that process. A Wachovia branch (that looks like all other Wachovia branches) doesn’t exactly get me excited.

At the same time, having another clean, solid, everyday-service on the street is more of a positive than a crumbling garage…

Eh...

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

This sort of project belongs downtown, not my neighborhood. I'm not opposed to the project, just the location. Maybe it makes sense from a development perspective, but not from where I'm standing.

[sakyle04]

This sort of project belongs downtown, not my neighborhood. I'm not opposed to the project, just the location. Maybe it makes sense from a development perspective, but not from where I'm standing.

i hate to say it, because i've really found all of your insights really interesting KeepSanAntonioLame....

but you're a NIMBY. :haha:

more seriously, it will be interesting to see how the project turns out and how it impacts the neighborhood, if any. time will tell.

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

Just voicing some dissent is all. on the positive side, it really adds to the sort of mini skyline in that area. Going south on 281, looking on the east side of the highway right before the hildebran exit there's at least half a dozen high rises, not counting the Broadway.

[Schertz1]

I have a house in Mahncke Park and am glad the Broadway is being built there. I was in San Antonio a week ago and there are other upscale condo projects being built in MP now, so it is only the beginning. Glad to see it happening in-spite of the area schools and crime.

[sirkingwilliam]

I really don't understand any opposition or negative feelings towards The Broadway when there's a 14 story high rise residential tower 20 feet away. lol

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

It's just the additional density that bugs me.... that's all. It'll be good for the Broadway corridor though. Right now the only respectable area of Broadway is Alamo Heights and thereabouts.

[oldmanshirt]

I'm not sure I understand your objections either, KSAL. This is SA's "Uptown" area, and compared to Uptowns in cities like Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, even here in Kansas City. . . well, let's just say that if you think adding one condo tower is making SA's Uptown "too dense", just be glad you don't live in one of those cities, let alone some place like Manhattan.

One thing I really would like to see happen along this area of Broadway, if not all the way to downtown, is the burying of the power lines and the switch from cable traffic signal supports to steel. Those two things alone would go a long way to cleaning up the "streetscape" of that area.

[sakyle04]

I'm not sure I understand your objections either, KSAL. This is SA's "Uptown" area, and compared to Uptowns in cities like Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, even here in Kansas City. . . well, let's just say that if you think adding one condo tower is making SA's Uptown "too dense", just be glad you don't live in one of those cities, let alone some place like Manhattan.

One thing I really would like to see happen along this area of Broadway, if not all the way to downtown, is the burying of the power lines and the switch from cable traffic signal supports to steel. Those two things alone would go a long way to cleaning up the "streetscape" of that area.

NIMBY accusations aside, I agree with the idea to either convert to steel or bury the area cables.

Bring on the density...I have always thought that HEB could tear down Central Market to build a 25 story headquarters with an expanded Central Market on the bottom levels...

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

You have to understand the mentality of an AH resident. We feel besieged by developers. Now that the AH city council has actual design standards to protect historic homes, developers are building around the city. I guess im not really really opposed to the project anymore, it was just irritating to see an SA landmark like earl abel's go. It was also sad to see the old Kens Texaco to make way for just what AH needs the most.. another bank!

I think the city of SA needs to start some sort of long term campaign to get more power lines underground. They're just hideous and can be dangerous. The only steel supported lights are at Alamo and Broadway by where the new Pioneer offices are going to be. Maybe they will do more like that.


And AH has very strict commercial zoning, so HEB could never build a huge tower at CM, cool though it would be.

[sakyle04]

You have to understand the mentality of an AH resident. We feel besieged by developers. Now that the AH city council has actual design standards to protect historic homes, developers are building around the city. I guess im not really really opposed to the project anymore, it was just irritating to see an SA landmark like earl abel's go. It was also sad to see the old Kens Texaco to make way for just what AH needs the most.. another bank!

I think the city of SA needs to start some sort of long term campaign to get more power lines underground. They're just hideous and can be dangerous. The only steel supported lights are at Alamo and Broadway by where the new Pioneer offices are going to be. Maybe they will do more like that.


And AH has very strict commercial zoning, so HEB could never build a huge tower at CM, cool though it would be.

update photos?

(the sooner this one rises, the sooner we get the devine/trinity condos!!)

[99jeep]

I have a house in Mahncke Park and am glad the Broadway is being built there. I was in San Antonio a week ago and there are other upscale condo projects being built in MP now, so it is only the beginning. Glad to see it happening in-spite of the area schools and crime.

Where are some of those other condos in Mahncke Park?

[Schertz1]

I will take and post pictures this weekend.

I can't remember the street.

[sakyle04]

the back of today's san antonio business journal has a full-page ad for the broadway. it has a silver-haired executive-looking guy in an obviously elegant room and it says:

"because you've never made a lateral move in your life."

:sly:

smarmy, but clever.

[sakyle04]

MySa Real Estate Blog has a new post (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/realestate/2008/06/having_doubts_about_the_broadw.html)about The Broadway's upward progress...

[Schertz1]

Where are some of those other condos in Mahncke Park?

I didn't take a pix, but 124 Davis is the address.

The Broadway is now well over the construction fence.

[oldmanshirt]

The Broadway is now fell over the construction fence.

Holy crap! When I first glanced at this I thought it said "The Broadway fell over the fence." Gah!

Anyway, if its just now poking over the fence, then at this rate it should be complete sometime before 2015 or so, which means I'll be able to retire to the Devine Rd condos sometime around 2035 :tup:

[oldmanshirt]

I didn't take a pix, but 124 Davis is the address.

If those are the ones I'm thinking of, then they're pretty visible from Broadway, right?

btw, I'd encourage the members who have time to drive around Alamo Hts and Terrell Hills, on streets other than Broadway or New Braunfels. There's a lot more infill going on than you can see from just those roads.

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

If you drive south on 281 by olmos park, look to the left. It's getting alot more dense.

[oldmanshirt]

^^^I love that view. The Broadway alone is going to give things much more of a uptown look. Combine that with what is and is going to be built at Ft. Sam and you have the makings of some potential eye candy.

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

buildings in that view:

Patterson condos (not sure how tall. maybe 10 stories)
Residential highrise at hildebrand and new braunsfels (i counted 12 stories once i think, don't know the name)
ATT office building (6 or 7 stories)
Office building across from ATT (6 stories)
Incarnate Word retirement community tower (7 or 8 stories)
Broadway crane
Fort Sam medical buildings (no idea how tall)
Various Incarnate word buildings, none very tall, but they add density to that view.
The Towers at Park Lane (retirement building, 23 stories)

currently I would not call this an "uptown" or second downtown, but maybe in a few decades it will become that.

[miaht82]

The buildings on Fort Sam that are visible are;
Old BAMC 1 (7 stories plus the tower in the center)
Old BAMC 2 (currently under construction, 6 stories)

http://www.theofficesatftsam.com/bamcTwo.html

[miaht82]

They're beginning to set concrete above the second floor columns of the Broadway.

[sakyle04]

Click on this link (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/realestate/2008/07/wonderful_views_from_the_futur.html) to get to the MySA real estate blog.

They've got a link there to a panoramic view of the SA skyline - the future view from the 17th floor of the Broadway!!!

[sakyle04]

:previous: new year's eve on that balcony would make for some gorgeous views. imagine the fireworks exploding over the tower at midnight....

[KevinFromTexas]

:) - I would imagine the fireworks display atop the Tower of the Americas would be pretty spectacular from this view.
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/realestate/Broadway%2017th.jpg
Source: http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/realestate/2008/07/wonderful_views_from_the_futur.html


[EDIT] Haha, I see sakyle04 and myself think alike. ;)

[alexjon]

Our skyline makes me sad from this angle :(

But the green is so amazing. I have yet to live in a city with as many trees as San Antonio

[sakyle04]

[EDIT] Haha, I see sakyle04 and myself think alike. ;)

Kevin, I'll let you buy the unit and then you can invite all of us over to enjoy the fireworks together. :D

I can't imagine the 17th floor being much more than $700,000.

[sakyle04]

Our skyline makes me sad from this angle :(

But the green is so amazing. I have yet to live in a city with as many trees as San Antonio

Ya, the angle is bad as far as the impressiveness of the skyline...

But River North has the potential to really fill in the hole there. DT really struggles in that NE quadrant, but there are good things coming.

And, yes, trees are good.

[oldmanshirt]

Our skyline makes me sad from this angle :(

But the green is so amazing. I have yet to live in a city with as many trees as San Antonio

All it would take to fill in that gap is the Four Seasons Rivercenter hotel and a high-rise taking the place of one of those parking garages between Commerce and Market Steets. Add to that River North, the University Hospital expansion, the fed courthouse/police station, and whatever NuStar might be cooking up, and bingo :)

[sakyle04]

All it would take to fill in that gap is the Four Seasons Rivercenter hotel and a high-rise taking the place of one of those parking garages between Commerce and Market Steets. Add to that River North, the University Hospital expansion, the fed courthouse/police station, and whatever NuStar might be cooking up, and bingo :)

We have a winner!!!!

I forgot how great the RiverCenter high-rise hotel would look from that angle...

[texboy]

Who is NuStar and what might they be "cooking up"?

[sakyle04]

Who is NuStar and what might they be "cooking up"?

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NuStar Energy L.P.
Type Public (NYSE: NS)

Founded April 16, 2001
Headquarters San Antonio, TX, USA

Key people Curt Anastasio, CEO
Bill Greehey, Chairman

Industry Oil and Gasoline, Transportation
Products Petrochemical
Revenue ▲ $5.8 billion (Projected) USD (2007)

Website www.nustarenergy.com

NuStar Energy L.P. (NYSE: NS) is a Fortune 500 company based in San Antonio. The company was established in 2001 after separating from Valero. The company operates 9,113 miles of pipeline and 85 terminal facilities across six countries allowing allowing for the storage of almost 80 million barrels of oil making NuStar the second largest independent liquids terminal operator in the world.[citation needed]

In November of 2007 the company announced that it would purchase CITGO Asphalt Refining Co. for $450 million. This move makes NuStar the largest asphalt refiner on the East coast.[1]

The rumor within NuStar is that the company will be building a HQ here in SA sooner than later - currently they are in leased space. Fueling any DT HQ speculation is the fact that the Chairman (Greehey) is the driving force behind Haven for Hope in DT SA.

[Complex01]

Our skyline makes me sad from this angle :(

But the green is so amazing. I have yet to live in a city with as many trees as San Antonio

U live in Seattle, Trees are all over the place...

[oldmanshirt]

That SA real estate blog has lots of cool info, including a condo project in Selma, close to Retama Park, pictures of solar panels being installed at Pearl Brewery, and Vespa Alamo Hts moving closer to downtown (still on Broadway, tho not quite in River North).

[alexjon]

U live in Seattle, Trees are all over the place...

Mostly water and buildings. 4th Avenue in Belltown has some trees, but the rest of downtown, not so much. My neighborhood has some trees, but they aren't all that great.

[KevinFromTexas]

Kevin, I'll let you buy the unit and then you can invite all of us over to enjoy the fireworks together. :D

I can't imagine the 17th floor being much more than $700,000.

Ha! Well then, I'll have to get to work right away...winning the lottery. ;) You know that if I was a skyscraper nerd in San Antonio with money, I'd totally invite the forum over for the views and booze. :D

[maxus]

These photos were taken as of of yesterday showing the progress of the condo. It seems that one level or floor is started every week or so at this pace a topping out should begin in five months or so.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/maxusII/IMG_9132.jpghttp://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/maxusII/IMG_7582.jpghttp://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/maxusII/IMG_7700.jpghttp://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/maxusII/Untitled-1.jpg

[maxus]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/maxusII/IMG_7675.jpg

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

How tall is going to be in relation to the crane?

[maxus]

I think the crane will have to be raised several sections. So from the view of this photo, I would say another 10-20 percent higher than it currently stands.
By the way, why are there no "diagrams" of this building in the Diagrams section of this website? This building should clear 225-250 feet easy.

[oldmanshirt]

The top of the crane looks like its about level with the 14-story tower on New Braunfels. It'll have to be raised once they get to the 10th or 11th floor. I'm not sure we've ever seen 3D renderings of this building (if somebody knows of any, please post them!), so that may explain why there's no diagrams.

Thanks for the pics, though! Be sure to post them in the SA construction update thread under "City Compilations".

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

I wonder if they're going to shrink it anymore. It was 24, now they're just going for 20.

[sirkingwilliam]

You can't shrink it after construction begins.

[oldmanshirt]

Sure you can, that's why they were all freaked out in Austin over those rumors that the Austonian isn't going to go all the way up to 56 floors.

[maxus]

Sure you can, that's why they were all freaked out in Austin over those rumors that the Austonian isn't going to go all the way up to 56 floors.

doubt it. mcombs may even raise it?!

[maxus]

Sure you can, that's why they were all freaked out in Austin over those rumors that the Austonian isn't going to go all the way up to 56 floors.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/maxusII/IMG_7675.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/maxusII/IMG_7675-1.jpghttp://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/maxusII/2700285881_d89c89b2f7_o.jpg
view from the tower of the broadway and a future view near site. notice how its the same one from the beginning of the post.

[KevinFromTexas]

Thanks for the updates. Are those your photos, marcus?

You can't shrink it after construction begins.

Oh, they can shrink them alright, or enlarge them. As long as they plan for it in the structural engineering process, they can do it. There's the Blue Cross Blue Shield office building in Chicago. They're adding 25 floors to the existing 33-story building. It'll go from about 400 feet to 743 feet. The building had been structurally engineered so that more floors could be added later.

Here's the construction thread on it. They've already started.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=111764

[KevinFromTexas]

marcus, I've merged these two threads.

[sirkingwilliam]

Well, you learn something new every day.

I'm not a engineer and I don't play one on TV, though I've tried, so my comment was based on my own assumption. I always thought once physical construction began, any changes couldn't be done because it would compromise the intellectual structure of the building.

I see I was incorrect.

[sirkingwilliam]

doubt it. mcombs may even raise it?!

Is this your own speculation?

[oldmanshirt]

Why did they shorten it from 24 floors in the first place? '09er NIMBYs?

[miaht82]

I believe the crane at the Broadway is a self-assembling tower crane so they can lift it to the proper height when they need to. It usually take a few guys and a couple of hours to lift it but I've seen cranes get raised an extra 100 feet in a day.
kinda like this.
that is where the slewing unit(tower) is detached from the mast(upper arm and pivot.)
then hydraulic lifts raise the slewing unit up twenty feet so a new section can fit.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/tower-crane18.jpg
then they just push it in there, assemble it and repeat the process.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/tower-crane19.jpg

found these pics at How Stuff Works (http://science.howstuffworks.com/tower-crane.htm/printable).

[oldmanshirt]

^^^There's a whole thread on tower crane assembly, I think its in the engineering section. Its pretty cool stuff :yes:

[alexjon]

We get to see that all the time here in Seattle-- I'm always down in the Denny Triangle looking at the stuff north of the Retail District getting built... crane piece comes up, guys scurry over it like mice, crane raises, ta-da!

[maxus]

Is this your own speculation?

yes it is.

[maxus]

Thanks for the updates. Are those your photos, marcus?



Oh, they can shrink them alright, or enlarge them. As long as they plan for it in the structural engineering process, they can do it. There's the Blue Cross Blue Shield office building in Chicago. They're adding 25 floors to the existing 33-story building. It'll go from about 400 feet to 743 feet. The building had been structurally engineered so that more floors could be added later.

Here's the construction thread on it. They've already started.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=111764

yes, the renderings are.

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

Why did they shorten it from 24 floors in the first place? '09er NIMBYs?

They'd never listen to us.

The reason it shrunk is because they're expensive to begin with, and they've been raising the prices. I know people who were interested, but the price kept going up and up, and in the end they just said "forget it".

[The Model]

I passed the Broadway today, and was thinking, instead of building a bank across the street, McCombs should build another Broadway building, and at the tenth floor, a sky bridge crossing Hildabrand, connecting the two. Vidorra has two planned, why not Broadway?:notacrook:

[maxus]

http://www.thebroadwaysanantonio.com/main/home.php

[oldmanshirt]

This page (http://www.thebroadwaysanantonio.com/main/news_events.php) has a few "rooftop" views. Looks like its up to at least six or seven floors now :yes:

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

Excellent views. (From the Broadway site)

North

http://www.thebroadwaysanantonio.com/_images/views/photo_n.jpg

South

http://www.thebroadwaysanantonio.com/_images/views/photo_s.jpg

East

http://www.thebroadwaysanantonio.com/_images/views/photo_e.jpg

West

http://www.thebroadwaysanantonio.com/_images/views/photo_w.jpg

Country Club. If there's one thing the Broadway has going for it, from the luxury highrise point of view, it's that its a block to the Country Club.

http://www.thebroadwaysanantonio.com/_images/views/photo_golf_course.jpg

Incarnate Word

http://www.thebroadwaysanantonio.com/_images/views/photo_uiw.jpg

The Hildebrand Broadway intersection looks nice in these pictures. Too bad it's usually jammed with traffic.

[sirkingwilliam]

Fantastic pictures.

I may be wrong but I think those pictures went under the photo shop knife. I know I'm not wrong because those seem to have been taken as the sun is setting and anyone who's been in that area at 7:30 can tell you there are cars, and aggravating amount of them.

They removed the cars that populate Broadway and Hildebrand. The only time I ever see so desolate is at 1 am. lol

It makes sense to photo shop out the cars as the congestion might be off putting for potential buyers.

[miaht82]

The 7th floor is poured on and the columns have to still be poured in.
As for the two towers idea; the slab for the bank has already been set.
A Wachovia? What a waste of space.

[JACKinBeantown]

Too bad San Antonio's downtown isn't a little more condensed.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/JACKinNYC/SAcondensed.jpg


(Please excuse the quick Photoshop job.)

[coddat]

Fantastic pictures.

I may be wrong but I think those pictures went under the photo shop knife. I know I'm not wrong because those seem to have been taken as the sun is setting and anyone who's been in that area at 7:30 can tell you there are cars, and aggravating amount of them.

They removed the cars that populate Broadway and Hildebrand. The only time I ever see so desolate is at 1 am. lol

It makes sense to photo shop out the cars as the congestion might be off putting for potential buyers.

It could be 7:30 on a Sunday, that would explain the lack of cars.

[oldmanshirt]

Too bad San Antonio's downtown isn't a little more condensed.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/JACKinNYC/SAcondensed.jpg


(Please excuse the quick Photoshop job.)

That doesn't really look like a photoshop job at all, it looks totally real. Maybe you could've even gone one step further and put the Weston and Marriott Rivercenter in the middle and scootched the Alamodome in a little bit more.

btw, (not that I'm requesting that you do this), I've always wondered what downtown would look like with the whole Medical Center area next to it, meaning the Med Center itself, along with USAA and the buildings concentrated along I-10 and along Fred Rd.

[JACKinBeantown]

That doesn't really look like a photoshop job at all, it looks totally real.

Thanks, but if you look above the tower and on the left side of the photo you'll see it.

[KevinFromTexas]

I see what you're saying. There's a vertical rectangle on the left side of the image that is slightly discolored. Besides that, the skyline looks right.

San Antonio has one of those skylines where if you view it from a certain angle it looks spread out and sparse. But then from other angles it looks fantastic.

[KeepSanAntonioLame]

I think it looks best from the northwest.

[KevinFromTexas]

Durr. I was confused. Damn, Jack, you had me there for a minute. Haha. Good job.

[oldmanshirt]

Thanks, but if you look above the tower and on the left side of the photo you'll see it.

I can see it now. Since I was just focusing on the buildings it wasn't immediately obvious. Still not complaining about the work you did, tho :tup:

[JACKinBeantown]

Thanks, guys. I think SA will pretty much always have the two parts of the skyline because of the Alamo, Riverwalk and convention center. They take up a big portion of space between the CBD and the Tower/hotels.

[miaht82]

At least from the broadway angle, even if a high rise goes up at the River Center/Commerce St. garage, there is still a huge gap. Only hope for infill of the skyline views for this area is for some talls to get built between Broadway and 37, from 3rd street to the north.

[oldmanshirt]

Thanks, guys. I think SA will pretty much always have the two parts of the skyline because of the Alamo, Riverwalk and convention center. They take up a big portion of space between the CBD and the Tower/hotels.

It wouldn't be that bad if some of the garages and parking lots around Market and Commerce at Navarro and Presa were replaced by something of decent height. River North development will probably also improve that view in the future.