[KCgridlock]

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[TXLove]

Oh my Goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!KC does it again!!!!!!!

[ChrisLA]

I didn't know Austin had light rail, when did this happen?

[TXLove]

^^^Its not Light rail....its a commuter rail line that will run 32 miles from NW Austin suburb of Leander and will go downtown....Service should start in December

[ChrisLA]

^
Thanks!

Those are some sleek looking rail cars.

[fflint]

Awesome! Best Austin aerials ever.

[ecsider]

great shots of a wonderful city

[Paul in S.A TX]

Austin is really taking shape. Best photos I have ever seen of ATX!

[ady26]

Thank you Bill for the photos! I often call Austin the New Dallas of Texas!

[OfCourse]

:omg:

I've been waiting for this

:banana:

[alon504]

Nice shots.

[OhioGuy]

Great photos of a very cool city!

[Boris]

Beautiful shots of Austin. I like that the dog posed for you.

[Texan101]

Very nice shots as always. You have a gift thats for sure. Was nice to see my wonderful neighbor to the North finally.

[priller]

I often call Austin the New Dallas of Texas!

Please don't do that!

[priller]

This is not a view I've seen before. I like it! Great shot of the Shore. I would love to see it backed out just a tad, to get more of the river in.

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And in another 2 years there will be at least 5 new towers added to this scene.

[LoneStarMike]

What a great way to start the week! Thanks!

[DougRockstead]

I agree with Priller. Dallas has an impressive skyline, but the city itself is so different. (let me preface this with a "no offense intended to Dallas residents) Austin isn't as sterile... it has alot more character, and has much more of a small town feel among the residents... something I don't ever experience when I'm in Dallas...

[KevinFromTexas]

:dancing: Man, I've been waiting for this for a LONG time. Thanks a bunch, KC! These are fantastic! Come back again in a year or so when several new buildings, a couple of 400 footers, 500 footers and even a 600 footer are up in the air.

By the way, check out KCgridlock's website to see the rest of the photos he took of Austin. I'm like a kid in a candy store with these. Haha
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A few notes and observations of what you can see.

In this shot you can see that they had turned the exterior lighting on AMLI on 2nd. On the end of the building near the top you'll notice a green light. I'm not sure if this is the extent of the lighting on this building. I would think there would be more. This is a new apartment building (225 feet with 18 floors) that is near completion. It's part of the booming 2nd Street District which will add hundreds of new residential units to the southern end of downtown and 245,000 square feet of retail space (so far).
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Vid will like this photo since it shows one of his new favorite buildings in Austin. :D The building to the left is The Monarch. This is a new apartment tower in Austin's West End. It's also wrapping up construction. It's 323 feet with 29 floors. It's named The Monarch after the roof design which resembles the wings of a butterfly angled upwards. The taller building to the right of course is 360 Condominiums (563 feet to the spire, 473 feet to the roof with 44 floors). This is not only the new tallest building in Austin but is also the new tallest all residential building in Texas thanks to the spire. This building will only hold that title for a year however since The Austonian (683 feet with 56 floors) also in Austin, will be completed sometime late next year or early in 2010, it's already under construction.
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Here you can see Altavida under construction to the left. This is a new apartment tower going up along 2nd Street. This building will be 412 feet tall with 37 floors. The brown building immediately to the right of it is 100 Congress. That building is 320 feet tall with 22 floors, it's office. Behind it and to the right you can just barely see a tower crane there. That is one of two cranes that is working on The Austonian which will be Austin's new tallest at 683 feet with 56 floors. It's all condominiums with retail. At that height it will put Austin ahead of Fort Worth for "tallest tallest" making it the tallest in the state outside of Houston and Dallas. It will also be one of the tallest all residential buildings in the US. Only a handful of cities will have taller ones. With 360 Condominiums Austin has already passed San Antonio.
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Another closer view of the crane and construction site of The Austonian, (lower left).
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This one shows the excavation work being done for the new Four Seasons Residences (lower right). This is a new 32-story condominium and apartment tower. Site plan info indicates it will be 394 feet tall. Completion is expected in 2010. At this point since it's broken ground before a few others, it should be our 8th tallest in 2010. One unique fact about this building is that it will sport the highest rooftop swimming pool in Texas at almost 400 feet above the street.
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This shot shows the growing Waterfront District on the right side of the pic. The City of Austin rezoned this old downtown neighborhood for highrise development. Since then 3 new highrises have taken off. All residential, the tallest one seen here, Legacy @ Town lake, an apartment building under construction, will be 339 feet with 31 floors. This is one of the new towers that will really help reshape Austin's skyline since it's about 8 blocks from the next 300 footer. Eventually this entire neighborhood, an area of about 21 acres will be developed with highrises. Another tower, a 29-story hotel and condominium tower is also proposed for this area, though news on it has been sketchy.
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Photo showing Spring's red tower crane in the background (top center left). Some people are calling this building Austin's future version of Houston's Williams Tower. Design-wise it actually resembles Dallas' Bank of America Plaza a bit, but since it's away from "the pack", it'll really stand out in Austin's West End. It's still downtown of course. The building will be 434 feet tall with 42 floors. It's all condominiums with retail.
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Expansion of Darrell K. Royal Texas Memorial Stadium. The stadium was originally built in 1924, though the original sections have all been demolished. The current expansion will take seating capacity to just over 90,000. This shot also shows the enormity of the godzillatron on the stadium's south side. It's the largest jumbotron of its kind in the world. 55 feet long and the entire structure is just over 100 feet tall.
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Thanks again to KCgridlock for coming to Austin. These are great because there haven't really been any new aerials of downtown since most of these towers topped out. The last aerials I saw were Mopacs' shots he took in mid-2006 other than just a few pics here and there. So these were much appreciated! :cheers:

[Buckeye Native 001]

Not many other American cities have seen its skyline change as dramatically in the last five years as Austin. Hot damn, you magnificent bastard :tup:

[Jdawgboy]

Very lovely indeed. Some of the best pics Ive seen of my city.

[Goothrey]

I love the stadium pics. Godzillatron is supposed to be getting a back so that it is more picture friendly. It would be cool to see an aerial from the north looking at the stadium, but I cant complain.

[marcus]

Incredible. Just Amazing. Once again! When you coming to Bmore in Helicopter? :D

[KevinFromTexas]

Not many other American cities have seen its skyline change as dramatically in the last five years as Austin. Hot damn, you magnificent bastard :tup:

Yep. And there's more on the way. More 400 footers and 500 footers. Tomorrow, the newspaper is releasing a rendering for a new 30-story office tower in downtown that will be designed by none other than Cesar Pelli. The tower will be part of a ~465,000 square foot project that will include a new home for the Austin Museum of Art. It's supposed to break ground next year and be completed by 2011. This would be the first major office tower since the completion of the Frost Bank Tower in 2004.

After sometime in 2011, here's how the list should look. This is if nothing else is proposed from now until then.

One 700 footer? As long as it doesn't get canceled.
One 600 footer
Four 500 footers
Five to seven 400 footers
Eighteen 300 footers
Twenty two 200 footers
One hundred twelve 100 footers (taller than 115 feet).

[daniel_t]

These are Great!!! I know many people from Austin and all I hear are great things about the city. Keep up the good work.

daniel

[MichaelB]

Thank you! Thank You for such beautiful photos!!!!!!!

[atx001]

Excellent pictures!!!

[NMOphoto]

Photo 2 would be a great night shot as well. Like right before the sun goes down with all the color in the sky and the lights just coming on. good set.

[jtk1519]

Awesome work. I've been waiting for this thread for over a year I think.

[boden]

Thanks KC and KevinFromTexas for that excellent and informative thread.:cheers:

[alleystreetindustry]

beautiful job, yet again.
and i wanted to know, is that the real world house i see in a couple of the pictures?

[Dallas]

Wow!! Those were some amazing pics. I lived in Austin for five years; the minute I leave all these projects start!! I just hope Austin keeps growing vertically (upward) and not horizontally (sprawl.):tup:

[KevinFromTexas]

and i wanted to know, is that the real world house i see in a couple of the pictures?

You can see it in this photo. See the midrise hotel midway up the photo on the right side of the picture? In front of it there's a red building with a white roof. That was the Real World Austin "house". It's since been turned into a restaurant.
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Forgot to mention this. But those are NOT mobile homes in the lower left. They're RV/travel trailers. There's actually two RV parks there along Barton Springs Road overlooking the skyline. One of them contains a Pecan grove. Supposedly it's the last such Pecan grove in Texas. Some of the trees are over 150 years old and are protected. The two RV parks are unique in that they're just across the river from downtown. You have to have a reservation to park there and there's quite a waiting list. People come to Austin from all over the US and park there. There's also local residents who actually live there. One of these RV parks is slated to be redeveloped with condominiums in two 75 foot, 6-story buildings that will contain restaurant space along Barton Springs Road. Barton Springs Road is home to Austin's "Restaurant Row" which is a stretch of some of the city's most famous restaurants. This is where the Bush twins got in trouble for underage drinking a few years back when they were going to UT.
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[Strayone]

Please don't do that!

I wondered if someone would comment on that statement. God we are a proud lot when it comes to our fair city! :worship:

[northbay]

great shots!

[jtk1519]

beautiful job, yet again.
and i wanted to know, is that the real world house i see in a couple of the pictures?

The Real World Austin house can be seen in a couple of those pics.

http://www.urban-photos.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/austin/austin_33_8929.jpg

If you look just above the "S" on the watermark, you will see a short red building that takes up a little more than half a block just right of the center of the photo. That is the Real World house at 301 San Jacinto.

It is also visible in this pic...

http://www.urban-photos.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/austin/austin_8933.jpg

[biggiebear]

Great photos as usual KC, and thank you Kevin for the detail explanation your enthusiasm and attention to detail is much appreciated.

P.S I know it has been probably been asked before, but do you have any thoughts about doing some western Canadian cities KC (Calgary, Winnipeg, etc...)?

[LSyd]

hot fuckleberries.

i like your people pics, too.

-

[austin242]

Great Photos :tup: :tup: I just wish it was in the spring when the trees are green. But Great Photos :banana: Great.

[Goothrey]

I have only seen the Convention Center from the street side, never from above. Quite frankly, I never was able to tell what it really looked like. There aren't many pictures out there of the building.

[ltsmotorsport]

I need a cigarette.

Excellent job. :tup:

[James2390]

Excellent photographs! I would really like to come see Austin sometime.

[ATXboom]

Thanks for the great photos!

Come back in 2-4 years when about 30 additional towers are complete or near complete!!

[Fusey]

Definitely can't wait for my trip to Austin in September now! Haven't been in 5 years. Great pics, KC!

[ColDayMan]

Very good.

[Complex01]

Ah very nice...

:yes:

[Shasta]

Wonderful pics of my 2nd favorite city in Texas.

Just one phrase left to say;

"Get Your Horns Up!"

[BigBird9]

Yep. And there's more on the way. More 400 footers and 500 footers. Tomorrow, the newspaper is releasing a rendering for a new 30-story office tower in downtown that will be designed by none other than Cesar Pelli. The tower will be part of a ~465,000 square foot project that will include a new home for the Austin Museum of Art. It's supposed to break ground next year and be completed by 2011. This would be the first major office tower since the completion of the Frost Bank Tower in 2004.

After sometime in 2011, here's how the list should look. This is if nothing else is proposed from now until then.

One 700 footer? As long as it doesn't get canceled.
One 600 footer
Four 500 footers
Five to seven 400 footers
Eighteen 300 footers
Twenty two 200 footers
One hundred twelve 100 footers (taller than 115 feet).

Are you kidding???? Dang. The skyline is going to be incredible with all of those. :yes:

Great Pics by the way!

[dharper6]

Yep. And there's more on the way. More 400 footers and 500 footers. Tomorrow, the newspaper is releasing a rendering for a new 30-story office tower in downtown that will be designed by none other than Cesar Pelli. The tower will be part of a ~465,000 square foot project that will include a new home for the Austin Museum of Art. It's supposed to break ground next year and be completed by 2011. This would be the first major office tower since the completion of the Frost Bank Tower in 2004.

After sometime in 2011, here's how the list should look. This is if nothing else is proposed from now until then.

One 700 footer? As long as it doesn't get canceled.
One 600 footer
Four 500 footers
Five to seven 400 footers
Eighteen 300 footers
Twenty two 200 footers
One hundred twelve 100 footers (taller than 115 feet).

Hey Kevin,

Where can one find these kinds of projections? I knew about some of the bigger ones, but hadn't heard about all the others.

Thanks for the info! If Austin's skyline grows that much, I may cancel my plans to move to Houston and stay here instead. The main reason I had planed to move was to be closer to a lot of nice architecture. But if Austin satisfies my desire to live among a lot of good architecture, I'll just stay put!

[KevinFromTexas]

By the way, the Democratic presidential debate that took place in Austin this evening was in that building in front of the stadium. It's the building with the three barrel vaulted gray roofs.
http://www.urban-photos.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/austin/austin_8047.jpg

[oliveurban]

Nice.

[Kenneth]

I like the Austin Skyline. I went through back in March, April on my way to Laredo. At night, on the weekend the city really looks alive. The 35 interstate freeway that runs past downtown is unique. With the planned buildings, I would say that the skyline might past San Antonio in the future.

[ATXboom]

Passing San Antonio is a done deal... passing Dallas may be on the horizon.

Here is a link to the list: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=124346



Under construction:
The Austonian Residential 683 ft 622 ft 56 2009 Website Downtown 2nd Street District360 Condominiums Residential 563 ft 462 ft 44 2008 Website/2 DowntownSpring Residential 432 ft 405 .. 43 2009 Website Downtown West EndAltavida Residential 412 ft ??? .. 37 2008 Website Downtown 2nd Street DistrictFour Seasons Residences Residential 394 ft ??? .. 32 2009 ....... DowntownLegacy @ Town Lake Residential 339 ft 322 ft 31 2009 Website Downtown Waterfront DistrictThe Monarch Residential 323 ft 300 ft 29 2008 Website/2 Downtown West EndThe Shore Residential 257 ft 237 ft 22 2008 Website Downtown Waterfront District21 Rio Residential 236 ft ??? .. 21 2009 Website Cen.Aus. West CampusAMLI Block 22 Residential 225 ft 203 ft 18 2008 Website Downtown 2nd Street District1108 Lavaca Office 126 ft 88 ft 9 2008 Website Downtown Financial DistrictLa Vista on Lavaca Residential 119 ft ??? .. 8 2008 Website Downtown UptownPalisades West I Office 117 ft 102 ft 7 2008 ....... W.Austin

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Name Use Struct. Ht. Mainroof Flrs. Year Website Borough Neighborhood
Site prep/Demolition:

W Austin Hotel & Residences Hotel/Res. 433 ft 433 ft 37 2009 Website Downtown 2nd Street DistrictHotel Van Zandt Hotel/Res. ??? .. ??? .. 29 2008 ....... Downtown Waterfront DistrictThe Park Residential ??? .. ??? .. 14 2009 ....... S.Austin Restaurant RowSt. David's Medical Center Office 120 ft ??? .. 8 2008 ....... Cen.Aus. HancockThe Orsay Residential ??? .. ??? .. 8 ???? ....... Downtown Financial District
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Notes:

* ~ The Capitol Tower is an existing office building built in 1986. The building is 246 feet tall with 20 floors and will be renovated. A new rooftop crescent shaped crown will be added that will increase the building's height to 259 feet.


Name Use Struct. Ht. Mainroof Flrs. Year Website Borough Neighborhood
Approved:

501 Congress Residential 705 ft ??? .. 47 2009 Website Downtown Financial District601-699 West 7th Street Residential 400 ft ??? .. 33 2008 Website DowntownCapitol Tower* Office 246 ft ??? .. 20 1986 ....... Downtown Financial DistrictGables Park Plaza Residential 195 ft ??? .. 15 2008 ....... DowntownFederal Courthouse Courthouse 135 ft ??? .. 7 2009 ....... Downtown Warehouse DistrictRed River Residential Tower Residential ??? .. ??? .. 27 2009 ....... DowntownSt. David's North Austin Medical Center Hospital ??? .. ??? .. 8 2009 ....... N.Austin
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Proposed:

501 Congress 2011
2 towers: ~30 story office tower and ~830 foot Hotel and residence

21C Austin Hotel/Res. 580 ft ??? .. 44 2010 Website Downtown401-499 West 6th Street Hotel/Res. 550 ft ??? .. 40 2010 ....... Downtown501-599 West 6th Street Residential 450 ft ??? .. 35 2009 ....... Downtown800 West Residential 250 ft ??? ft ?? ???? ....... DowntownAquaTerra Residential 199 ft ??? .. 19 2008 Website S.AustinEast Avenue Andaz Hotel & Residences Hotel/Res. 182 ft ??? ft 17 2010 ....... Cent.Aus. HancockMarriott Convention Center Hotel Hotel ??? .. ??? .. 34 2009 ....... Downtown Financial DistrictHines Office Tower Office ??? .. ??? .. 30 2011 ....... Downtown Warehouse DistrictTWELVE Domain Hotel/Res. ??? .. ??? .. 28 ???? Website/2 N.Austin The DomainSeaholm Plaza Hotel Hotel/Res. ??? .. ??? .. 22 2009 ....... Downtown West End220-300 East Riverside Drive Tower I Residential ??? .. ??? .. 18 2009 ....... S.Austin220-300 East Riverside Drive Tower II Residential ??? .. ??? .. 18 2009 ....... S.Austin220-300 East Riverside Drive Tower III Residential ??? .. ??? .. 18 2009 ....... S.AustinWestin Hotel Downtown Austin Hotel ??? .. ??? .. 18 ???? ....... Downtown Warehouse DistrictThe Park at Aspen Lake Building C Office ??? .. ??? .. 15 ???? ....... NW.Austin JollyvilleThe Park at Aspen Lake Building D Office ??? .. ??? .. 15 ???? ....... NW.Austin JollyvilleCapitol Commons Office ??? .. ??? .. 10 ???? ....... Downtown UptownThe Domain Apartments Residential ??? .. ??? .. 8 2008 ....... N.Austin The DomainThe Domain Hotel Hotel ??? .. ??? .. 8 ???? ....... N.Austin The Domain

[KevinFromTexas]

Hey Kevin,

Where can one find these kinds of projections? I knew about some of the bigger ones, but hadn't heard about all the others.

Thanks for the info! If Austin's skyline grows that much, I may cancel my plans to move to Houston and stay here instead. The main reason I had planed to move was to be closer to a lot of nice architecture. But if Austin satisfies my desire to live among a lot of good architecture, I'll just stay put!

You can look up all the info in this thread:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=87

Be sure to check out the individual building threads also. Just scroll down to the bottom of the rendering post.

[TexasBoi]

passing Dallas may be on the horizon

Don't know about that one. There maybe some plans for downtown Dallas in the upcoming years. Still, Austin will be firmly in the number 3 spot in Texas very shortly.

[KevinFromTexas]

There was news today of a revised plan on one of the proposed towers. The building had been proposed to be 705 feet with 47 floors. Well, that was almost 3 years ago. Today the developer says he's planning two towers. One would be 830 feet tall with 70 floors. It would have 300 hotel rooms and 200 condos. The 2nd tower would be a 30-story office tower with retail and a 1,000 space parking garage. On an adjacent block a 1,200 space parking garage would be built over 8,500 square feet of retail and restaurant space.

Both towers would go up on the same block as the black tower seen here. That building would stay, but the banking hall, a lowrise building and a parking garage on that block would be demolished. The 30-story office tower would front Congress Avenue next to the black building seen here. The taller tower would be behind them. If built, this would be the 6th tallest building in Texas.
http://www.urban-photos.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/austin/austin_34_8972.jpg

The office tower would probably block the view of the black building from this angle. The 70-story tower would be to the right of the black building. Anyway, this was the 3rd highrise announcement in a week. Two other projects, another 30-story office tower designed by Cesar Pelli, and an 18-story Westin Hotel, also with 300 rooms.
http://www.urban-photos.com/gallery/albums/city_galleries/austin/austin_8933.jpg

[Dale]

Kevin, where will the Marriot go in that picture ? Thanks.

[KevinFromTexas]

In the 2nd photo I reposted above, the Marriott will go up on the block between that gray tower that's next to the Frost Bank Tower, and that tall brown tower to the left of that one.

The Marriott project has been reworked though. Originally it was supposed to be three towers in one complex. A 26-story tower, a 15 and an 11-story building. Then they eliminated the 11-story building and bumped the main tower to 34 floors. Now the 15-story tower is being eliminated from the project. The number of hotel rooms however has not dropped. It'll still have 1,000 rooms making it the largest hotel in Austin, and likely the tallest too. They haven't mentioned a new height since eliminating the 15-story building, but I would imagine this would likely increase its height to 40 floors or more.

[Dale]

In the 2nd photo I reposted above, the Marriott will go up on the block between that gray tower that's next to the Frost Bank Tower, and that tall brown tower to the left of that one.

The Marriott project has been reworked though. Originally it was supposed to be three towers in one complex. A 26-story tower, a 15 and an 11-story building. Then they eliminated the 11-story building and bumped the main tower to 34 floors. Now the 15-story tower is being eliminated from the project. The number of hotel rooms however has not dropped. It'll still have 1,000 rooms making it the largest hotel in Austin, and likely the tallest too. They haven't mentioned a new height since eliminating the 15-story building, but I would imagine this would likely increase its height to 40 floors or more.

My God! That's going to be one centrally-located behemoth. I thought they were going to tuck it away near the convention center.

[KevinFromTexas]

Nope, right on Congress Avenue. It's only three blocks from the convention center though. It'll actually be the first hotel to break ground on Congress Avenue in about 87 years. The last one was the Stephen F. Austin Hotel in about 1922. I'm really hoping they come up with a better design though, because the 26-story design was awful.

[Dale]

Hope it has a goodly bit of retail too.

[airhero]

My brother has lived in Austin, San Antonio, and Houston and he says that Austin was by far the best place he has ever lived. He says he wants to move back and after going to Austin, I can see why. Austin is a very nice city. Thanks for the pics.

[Michi]

Though two entirely different cities, Austin kinda reminds me of Columbus, OH.

The freeway interchange photos are fun! :)

[ATXboom]

^^^ Good call. I went to OSU and now live in Austin. They are quite similar, though Austin is growing much much more quickly.

The highway structures and overall size/industry are quite similar. Lot more bars, etc in dtown austin. More historic neighborhoods in C-bus.

[Tarsus]

Nice photos.

[Nickelplate]

I really enjoy watching Austin transform. Nice job!

[DFW LUV]

Nice work KCgridlock.

What a wonderful city, Austin gets it.

[Raining Inside]

Wow, these pics are less than 6 months old, but they already look outdated because of new construction.

[whovean]

i lived in Austin from 1984-1992 and wow has it changed
its the best city in texas:tup: