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Ruckus
Mar 2, 2008, 1:34 AM
While reading through the Star Phoenix this morning I happily discovered an article highlighting the benefits associated with high density communities.

The most surprising and encouraging thing about the article is the SP opted to locate it under the "Homes" section (on first page no less), typically "Homes" features the newest suburban family showhome (clever ;) ).

Taller buildings can improve communities
Avi Friedman, Canwest News Service
Published: Saturday, March 01, 2008

The woman who spoke at the cities of Langford and Colwood's town hall meeting had a hesitant, soft voice.

"We live in a family-oriented place," she said. Raising her voice a bit, she added, "We do not want to see tall apartment buildings built here. We like our single-family homes and we would like it to stay this way." There was some nodding in the crowd and voices of support.

The concerns raised in the towns surrounding Victoria on Vancouver Island are often expressed nowadays across Canada. In their effort to halt urban sprawl, planners and elected officials are attempting to introduce bylaws and approve projects that will see taller buildings constructed in older and new neighbourhoods as well as in town centres.

It is not an easy undertaking, since over 60 per cent of Canadians reside in single family home in low-density communities and living spaciously is part of our dwelling culture.

The negative effects of urban sprawl are well documented. Since the beginning of the 20th century, and especially after the Second World War, poor development practices have left noticeable scars on our surroundings.

Forested landscapes and green fields were cleared to make room for residential subdivisions with wide roads and lawns. Homes have swollen in size and complexity and have consumed excessive amounts of energy to keep them warm in winter and cool in summer.

Such practices have had immediate and long-lasting damaging effects on both the local and global environments. Spreading ourselves around also means reliance on private cars.

The growing number of vehicles also means health risks, greenhouse-gas emissions and global warming. Although the particular composition of motor vehicle exhaust varies according to the type of fuel, the primary constituents that pose health risks are present throughout.

In addition to the health risks, emissions from vehicles also pose an imminent threat to the general environment.

Between 70 and 90 per cent of carbon monoxide emissions in most cities come from motor vehicles. Cars also contribute to the greenhouse effect, and in turn to climate change, through the release of carbon dioxide (CO2), methane and nitrous oxide (N2O). According to a report by the Organization for Economic Corporation and Development, road transport contributes 15 to 20 per cent of the carbon dioxide emissions worldwide.

Despite the health and environmental risks of fuel emissions, many Canadians went on to purchase larger cars, according to Natural Resources Canada's 2005 report on energy efficiency trends in Canada, performance levels, or horsepower, of the average car owned by Canadians increased by 32 per cent, from 118 horsepower in 1990 to 156 horsepower in 2003.

Car-dependent suburban developments contributed to altering places radically.

Natural and agricultural landscapes were built and paved over to create what author James Howard Kunstler called "the Geography of Nowhere."

The marking of vibrant urbanity, like the town square, roads and commerce that in older towns took centuries to evolve and grow organically happened in suburbia overnight. The rustication and aging necessary to create a sense of real place where residents, businesses and institutions mix did not materialize.

Like Langford and Colwood, many municipalities are facing tough choices: to continue to permit single-family dwellings only or to allow, or even encourage, apartment buildings and multi-family homes?

If halting sprawl, building affordable housing and creating better environments is the goal, the choice is clear. Current suburban densities of four to seven dwelling units per acre (10 to 17 dwelling units per hectare) need to be augmented to 15 to 35 dwelling units per acre (37 to 86 units per hectare) at the very least to create active and vibrant places.

Also, as our population becomes demographically diverse and singles, single parent families, childless couples and the elderly increase their share, creating communities with mixed housing types makes greater economic and social sense.

In existing neighbourhoods lower floors or basement levels can turn independent and rented out. Free-standing structures known as Garden Suites or Granny Flats can be constructed at the rear of new or existing homes for extended family living. When a single-story structure is demolished it can be replaced by a two-story, not by a "monster home," with little effect on streetscape.

We may also want to reconsider building heights, which were historically set at 35 feet (10.7 meters) -- the tallest spot that a fireman's ladder could reach many decades ago. An additional five feet (1.5 metres) and a different roof angle will enable people to have living space in an attic. Small businesses such as cafes, bookstores, dental clinics and home offices should be permitted in the heart of these communities.

Fear by citizens about altering the sense of place of their towns is partially true.

Yet, building more low-density single-family dwellings stands to change a place even more. Constructing taller buildings offers more opportunities to leave more green patches, build fewer roads and reduce traffic.

Often, it is easer to retool planning schemes than retool people's minds. Curbing sprawl and reducing environmental threats like global warming will require a joint effort and understanding by all.

(Ottawa Citizen)

avi.friedmanmcgill.ca

Source (http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/homes/story.html?id=0c01b92b-e302-42cf-a97a-834cc07d127a&p=1)

*****

Mr. Friedman stated our growing list of concerns quite concisely (e.g. energy consumption, affordable housing, quality of our environment) and suggests a solution for many of Canada's urban issues begins with the acceptance of a philosophy, or new attitude towards Canadian urban living: pro-density.

Unfortunately Mr. Friedman neglected to tie in public transit or other means of personal transportation with his pro-density position, although, I suppose it may have been implied through his criticism of private vehicle use.

Overall, a short and well written article which I expect enlightened at least a few Saskatonians whom are not usually exposed to such urban issues.

Here's to more high-rise construction throughout Canada :cheers:

Architype
Mar 2, 2008, 4:31 AM
Someone should sticky this thread. :)

niwell
Mar 2, 2008, 6:34 AM
Great article, but a somewhat misleading title. In that dense communities don't need to have tall buildings. In fact, I'd say that more successful high density neighbourhoods are low or mid-rise.

Dense = good, but dense /= tall in every case. The high-rise condo neighbourhoods of Toronto are a perfect example. Dense, yes, but sustainable?????

Perhaps off topic, but I felt that the title of the article was implying something different than what was stated within.

The Jabroni
Mar 2, 2008, 7:51 AM
Sustainable development are the keywords.

vid
Mar 2, 2008, 8:37 AM
I was looking at some statscan stats yesterday and realized that Downtown Fort William has not one single family home! More than 30% of its residents live in apartment buildings with 5 storeys or more. :yes:

Yet, our densest census tract is the one in which I live, where about 51% of the population is in a single family home. Only 5.4% of the population here lives in apartments taller than 5 storeys.

miketoronto
Mar 2, 2008, 2:26 PM
I love tall buildings. But don't tell me they are better, when I had to walk through a windstorm thanks to a high-rise the other day :)

Everything was calm, then I had to walk by the condo tower to the subway station :) And it was like a tornado of -40C winds. One of the worst feelings ever, and I did not think I would make it to the station. I had to walk backwards.

Hardhatdan
Mar 2, 2008, 4:32 PM
I love tall buildings. But don't tell me they are better, when I had to walk through a windstorm thanks to a high-rise the other day :)

Everything was calm, then I had to walk by the condo tower to the subway station :) And it was like a tornado of -40C winds. One of the worst feelings ever, and I did not think I would make it to the station. I had to walk backwards.
This? Really? This isn't a real argument is it?

matt602
Mar 2, 2008, 4:41 PM
I think that was mostly a joke.

vid
Mar 2, 2008, 9:58 PM
"Oh noes!! The four story building casts a shadows on the sidewalks!! We is dieing!!!!!! Tear it down tear it down!!!"

or

"Oh noes!! The 20 storey condo will create traffic on a major arterial road!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :("

or

"Oh noes!! The skyscrapers will cast shadows onto the river!!!!"

or

"Oh noes!! The tall skinny building will partially block the view of the waterfront! We should build a short fat one so that it entirely blocks that view!!"

or

"Oh noes!! They will see into our yards!!!"

......

Did I miss any?

Lead
Mar 2, 2008, 10:58 PM
"Oh noes!! The skyscrapers will block out the mountain views that we can't see from anywhere else!!!!"

Architype
Mar 2, 2008, 11:04 PM
But tall buildings reflect sunlight very nicely :cool:

miketoronto
Mar 3, 2008, 12:47 AM
I am not joking. That happened to me the other day. Like I said, I love tall buildings. But they really do not make great streetscapes in the pedestrian sense, in cold climates :)

Coldrsx
Mar 3, 2008, 2:04 AM
like anything, done right...density and height can work positively or negatively in an urban setting.

design, CPTED policies, light management, setbacks, massing, and street interaction determine if height works...

jeicow
Mar 3, 2008, 2:14 AM
This? Really? This isn't a real argument is it?
I'll take it you never remember the "ropes" they had near King/Bay back in the day so that when a huge burst of wind came off of the lake, people were able to hold on for dear life. They starting disappearing once PATH started growing. You can see some signs of them left- there are "loops" on the side of one smaller buildings on Richmond.

RTA
Mar 3, 2008, 4:59 AM
Did I miss any?

"Won't somebody please think of the children/parking?!?!"

francely57
Mar 3, 2008, 6:34 AM
Taller buildings can improve communities
Avi Friedman, Canwest News Service
Published: Saturday, March 01, 2008


Ha, the author (Avi Friedman) was my teacher last year... he knows a lot about buildings/construction, and does write many articles... I didn't know he would be talked about in Saskatoon though.

CCF
Mar 3, 2008, 6:50 AM
He and some of his students did some work in Regina a number of years ago.

Architype
Mar 3, 2008, 8:29 AM
It's really about finding the optimum densities.
If halting sprawl, building affordable housing and creating better environments is the goal, the choice is clear. Current suburban densities of four to seven dwelling units per acre (10 to 17 dwelling units per hectare) need to be augmented to 15 to 35 dwelling units per acre (37 to 86 units per hectare) at the very least to create active and vibrant places.
If people want to have more land, they probably should be forced to cultivate it.

vid
Mar 3, 2008, 8:54 AM
"Won't somebody please think of the children/parking?!?!"

How about:

"We can't build the new courthouse on the parking lot! We need that parking lot so that the new courthouse has a parking lot once it is built!!!"

Or:

"Let's rip the facade off the historic courthouse uptown and stick a large two storey structure on there. That way, it won't block light to the vacant lots across the street!!"

Architype
Mar 3, 2008, 9:24 AM
"We need more parking lots for our parks, and with heritage facades to protect the views"

Ruckus
Mar 3, 2008, 2:51 PM
He and some of his students did some work in Regina a number of years ago.

Can you elaborate on his Regina work? Was the work welcomed by Reginan's?

CCF
Mar 5, 2008, 11:14 PM
Can you elaborate on his Regina work? Was the work welcomed by Reginan's?

I'm not sure how to respond to that question.

He and some of his students composed concept plans for downtown Regina.

Ruckus
Mar 5, 2008, 11:50 PM
I'm not sure how to respond to that question.

He and some of his students composed concept plans for downtown Regina.

I'm curious to know what he and his students had in mind for Regina, are the concept plans still available for download?

CCF
Mar 6, 2008, 4:28 AM
I've posted them previously in the Regina Construction thread. I'll post them again here. Again, they were just concept drawings. Not so much a concrete plan.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l314/ccf49/Scan0002-1.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l314/ccf49/Scan0001-1.jpg

Ruckus
Mar 6, 2008, 4:57 AM
I've posted them previously in the Regina Construction thread. I'll post them again here. Again, they were just concept drawings. Not so much a concrete plan.

Thank you, much appreciated.

Concepts are cool and imaginative, what year were these published?

CCF
Mar 6, 2008, 5:05 AM
I believe they were drawn up in 2003.

MolsonExport
Mar 6, 2008, 2:39 PM
A rather shallow argument (tall buildings improving communities). Low rise rowhouses can improve communities. Densification need not imply tall buildings. Recall also the problems of the residential projects (public housing) that often consisted of tall buildings (e.g., the notorious Pruitt-Igoe in St. Louis, below; and the problems in the Jane-Finch highrises). Anyone who has read Jane Jacobs understands that tall buildings are not a panacea.

http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF0801/Cohn/Cohn01.jpg

Nicko999
Mar 6, 2008, 6:53 PM
I like demolition:yes:

JDRCRASH
Mar 6, 2008, 6:55 PM
This article is something we Southern Californians should take into consideration before trying to expand any further.

Ruckus
Mar 6, 2008, 7:35 PM
A rather shallow argument (tall buildings improving communities). Low rise rowhouses can improve communities. Densification need not imply tall buildings. Recall also the problems of the residential projects (public housing) that often consisted of tall buildings (e.g., the notorious Pruitt-Igoe in St. Louis, below; and the problems in the Jane-Finch highrises). Anyone who has read Jane Jacobs understands that tall buildings are not a panacea.

"Low rise buildings improve communities" or "Tall buildings improve communities". (I suppose a more appropriate title may have been "Density improves communities"...)

I don't think Friedman is advocating for one or the other. His message to communities and planning officials is they should strive to increase density where ever possible (perhaps even changing density guidelines to allow for greater densities in new and existing urban areas).

Yes, I agree past planning principles based on the inclusion of tall buildings may have had undesirable effects, but it is also true that we have come to understand those issues and seek to restrict undesirable conditions by designing communities with a greater diversity of densities and land uses.

Using the St. Louis example is an extreme case, but it does highlight many now commonly accepted concerns with regard to non-market affordable housing and it's relationship to market housing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Pruitt-Igoe-overview.jpg

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt-Igoe)

The U.S.'s love for racially segregated communities...
Originally, the city planned two partitions: Pruitt for black residents, and Igoe for whites. But as segregation was ruled unconstitutional in the 1954 Supreme Court case Brown v. Board of Education, the project was opened as racially integrated that same year. But within two years, most white residents had found the means to relocate.

Other elements contributing the the demise of Pruitt-Igoe...
Critics cited the failure of Pruitt-Igoe as an example of how planned urban communities sometimes fail. The complex had been designed as an attempt to emulate public housing projects in New York City, but with little regard for social and economic differences between the two cities. Explanations for the failure of Pruitt-Igoe are complex. While Yamasaki's architectural design often is blamed, economic decline of St. Louis as wealthier residents left for the suburbs, losses of the Vietnam War, and politicized local opposition to government housing projects played a role in the project's decline.

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt-Igoe)

The bottom line: Greater density (both low rise and high rise) combined with consideration of social, economic, environmental factors will ensure our communities remain healthy, productive and livable well into the future.

MonkeyRonin
Mar 6, 2008, 9:51 PM
A rather shallow argument (tall buildings improving communities). Low rise rowhouses can improve communities. Densification need not imply tall buildings. Recall also the problems of the residential projects (public housing) that often consisted of tall buildings (e.g., the notorious Pruitt-Igoe in St. Louis, below; and the problems in the Jane-Finch highrises). Anyone who has read Jane Jacobs understands that tall buildings are not a panacea.

High-rise communities aren't intrinsically bad, they are simply a reflection of the time in which most were built - a time of awful planning regardless of density or height. Remember also that more often than not these communities were put to the use of housing the poor, so that even in the rare case that they were meant for upper-class individuals, they'd have been plagued with the stigma of association with public housing.

So long as the high-rises meet the street well and can create human-scaled streetscape (Midtown or Downtown Manhattan, for example - it would only need to be more mixed-use), the neighbourhood can be just as successful as a low-rise one.

Halifax Hillbilly
Mar 7, 2008, 4:57 AM
Great article, but a somewhat misleading title. In that dense communities don't need to have tall buildings. In fact, I'd say that more successful high density neighbourhoods are low or mid-rise.

Dense = good, but dense /= tall in every case. The high-rise condo neighbourhoods of Toronto are a perfect example. Dense, yes, but sustainable?????



Excellent points. The Plateau in Montreal is a great example of a very dense low-rise neighbourhood that works very well.

The densities he suggests we should be aiming for (15-35 units an acre) are easily achievable with townhouse developments or a mix of small lot single family and some medium density housing.



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