[DC83]

I'm just curious about where in the city the SSP:Hamilton forumers live?

If you don't live in Hamilton, let us know what city you live in.

[SteelTown]

Representing West Mount Yo! lol Pretty close to Westcliffe.

[go_leafs_go02]

same. Almost on the border of Ancaster/Hamilton, live between Upper Paradise and Upper Horning St, and south of the Linc, but north of Stone Church.

[DC83]

^^ That's a strange spot for a student house! haha

What's wrong with the W5th-W1st student ghetto?

Westcliffe represent, eh Steeltown? haha

Well I rep the Corktown in the Downtown!

[BrianE]

Just West of Gage Park, south of Main St.. I'm not sure if that's Central, or East Hamilton, it changes depending on who you talk to.

[go_leafs_go02]

^^ That's a strange spot for a student house! haha

What's wrong with the W5th-W1st student ghetto?

Westcliffe represent, eh Steeltown? haha

Well I rep the Corktown in the Downtown!
Not really living in a student residence, basically a family who I know was renting out the basement of their place, their son, another guy, and me live in the basement.

Cheap rent, it's a decent place. Much better than W1st to W5th.

[matt602]

Far East end, Barton and Parkdale area.

[LikeHamilton]

Just east of Gage Park, south of King St.

[oldcoote]

westdale

[DC83]

Not really living in a student residence, basically a family who I know was renting out the basement of their place, their son, another guy, and me live in the basement.

Cheap rent, it's a decent place. Much better than W1st to W5th.

haha no doubt! That area (W1-W5) can get pretty crazy.

[highwater]

Make that two for Westdale. :)

[raisethehammer]

Downtown - King and Locke.

[Jon Dalton]

James South area, right next to the train tracks

[ihateittoo]

Durand (charlton and caroline)

[paleale2]

Strathcona....

Oxford and York

[flar]

Dundas

[block43]

Strathcona....

Oxford and York

I put an offer in for 19 Oxford a few years ago but was out bid...

I live in Central Neighbourhood, north of the core.

[FairHamilton]

Toronto, soon to be Hamilton Centre, just east of Sherman and south of King.

[HAMRetrofit]

Toronto.

Own a few properties in Hamilton scattered throughout the city. Renovating + retrofitting + renting them.

[chris k]

West mounatian inbetween Garth and W5th. North oif stone church.:(

[fastcarsfreedom]

Tecumseh, Ontario--suburban Windsor.

Born in Hamilton, Grew up in the Greensville area.

[IronWarrior]

Locke&Main Area

[the dude]

strathcona, oxford st.

[beanmedic]

east mountain

I dream of moving to the core.

[JT Jacobs]

Currently living in Kelowna, BC (I hate it here: beautiful but a complete car culture; Hummers and high-rise pickups everywhere; totally pretentious). Moving back to Hamilton this coming summer.

I'd love to buy around Gage Park (on Rothsay or around Delaware and St Clair), but the wife insists on either Durand, Westdale, or Kirkendall.

[ww3vet]

One more for Westdale;)

[coalminecanary]

x2 for corktown

[coalminecanary]

...or 3 if thats where jon lives officially as well?

[flar]

Currently living in Kelowna, BC (I hate it here: beautiful but a complete car culture; Hummers and high-rise pickups everywhere; totally pretentious). Moving back to Hamilton this coming summer.

I'd love to buy around Gage Park (on Rothsay or around Delaware and St Clair), but the wife insists on either Durand, Westdale, or Kirkendall.

show her this tour of St. Clair:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=141099

[BrianE]

Currently living in Kelowna, BC (I hate it here: beautiful but a complete car culture; Hummers and high-rise pickups everywhere; totally pretentious). Moving back to Hamilton this coming summer.

I'd love to buy around Gage Park (on Rothsay or around Delaware and St Clair), but the wife insists on either Durand, Westdale, or Kirkendall.

Value for money, you just can't beat St. Clair.

Westdale, Durand, kirkendall all quality neighborhoods, but everybody knows it and house prices show that accordingly.

Big negative for the St. Clair - Blakely neighborhoods is that you will have to drive almost everywhere, there's nothing worth shopping at along Main St. On the bright side, everything you need is only 5 - 10min away by car, including downtown.

Big positive. Gage Park. It's such an amazing park, best in Hamilton if you ask me and only getting better.

[DC83]

Currently living in Kelowna, BC (I hate it here: beautiful but a complete car culture; Hummers and high-rise pickups everywhere; totally pretentious). Moving back to Hamilton this coming summer.

I'd love to buy around Gage Park (on Rothsay or around Delaware and St Clair), but the wife insists on either Durand, Westdale, or Kirkendall.

Wow, I must say I'm super jealous! I was lucky enough to spend a week there a couple summers ago and loved every second of it!

But you're right, it IS a car-culture city, eh? But I guess that's what happens when everyone is rich and lives in the mountains and on the vinyards! But there's also GREAT houses close to downtown along the Lake Okanagan, too.

Ya, let your wife know that the hoods surrounding Gage Park are quickly becoming the new Durand/Kirkendall... especially for out of towners. The Delta is a great area to move to as well! Cheap cheap houses (for now), and close to all the amenities incl. Ottawa Street!

[chris k]

I would also like to welcome all the recent forumers. it seems there has been unprecedented growth from the Hamilton section lately. Its great that you guys have these interests and hope you stick around.
A warm welcome to you all
:cheers:

[JT Jacobs]

show her this tour of St. Clair:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=141099

She knows the area, and agrees about its charms, but simply prefers the southwest and Dundas. Central Hamilton is still a little too gritty for her. I, however, think the Ottawa ST area is brilliant and authentic.

By the way, I've admired your photo tours for some time now: they are simply superb. In fact, I have your photo of the Pigott Building as my laptop's desktop-background photo and the stupendous long shot of James ST South to the Bay on my desktop computer. The first tour I saw that you did was of Durand, and it made me miss Hamilton sorely. You've done some very fine work.

[flar]

By the way, I've admired your photo tours for some time now: they are simply superb. In fact, I have your photo of the Pigott Building as my laptop's desktop-background photo and the stupendous long shot of James ST South to the Bay on my desktop computer. The first tour I saw that you did was of Durand, and it made me miss Hamilton sorely. You've done some very fine work.

Thanks :)
More to come (eventually). There aren't many cities that could furnish as many successful photo tours as Hamilton.

[hammergirl]

East mountain here.

[JT Jacobs]

Value for money, you just can't beat St. Clair.

Westdale, Durand, kirkendall all quality neighborhoods, but everybody knows it and house prices show that accordingly.

Big negative for the St. Clair - Blakely neighborhoods is that you will have to drive almost everywhere, there's nothing worth shopping at along Main St. On the bright side, everything you need is only 5 - 10min away by car, including downtown.

Big positive. Gage Park. It's such an amazing park, best in Hamilton if you ask me and only getting better.

Indeed, Gage Park is a jewel. And you're right, prices are going up rapidly--but still decent value compared to other major Canadian cities. I can't wait to get back! I miss brick and stone and solid, well-built homes of over a hundred years in age.

[Civchic]

I'm in central/east - just south of King across from Scott Park. You can park on my lawn for football games! :D

I just found this forum, and I want to say wow! I've been looking for a thriving online Hamilton community for awhile, especially one interested in building and development.

[SteelTown]

^ Welcome!

Do we get a discount price for parking on your lawn during game day?

[FairHamilton]

Welcome Civchic. I'm pretty new to the board as well and will be moving just west of your place in a few weeks.

I'm going to auction my extra 2 parking spots on the board ;-).

[Civchic]

Haha! Well, the lawn is free, but it's first come-first served. :) There's always beer in a cooler on the porch, as well, and maybe even peanuts.

I love living in this neighborhood, ESPECIALLY on game days. People are always so friendly, walking from their cars to the game, hooting and hollering afterwards (or crying, the last few years). I think it would lose a certain luster if we actually had parking available at Ivor Wynne - much less of a "community feel".

Mind you - I don't have to worry about finding a parking spot!

[flar]

Good to see all the new forumers of late :)

[the dude]

there's a girl? sweet. too much testosterone around here!

[matt602]

Two of them apparently.

[FRM]

strathcona, oxford st.

Strathcona....

Oxford and York

i used to live on that street in Oxford Heights, we just moved 2 years ago over to the next street on queen street north. Wish i had moved into Ray st. though, they have some really nice little houses there, with many more being renovated.

[Civchic]

Ray Street does have some really cute houses - I really wanted to buy one of them and fix it up but my husband wants to stick to multi-unit Victorians. Bah.

Yes, I'm a girl, but I'm a civil engineer, so I'm used to hanging out with all the boys already. ;)

[SteelTown]

To all the newbies prepare for your newest addiction! This board is addictive!

So sit back, relax and prepared to be sucked in.

[highwater]

Two of them apparently.

Make that 3. :female:

[DC83]

Make that 3. :female:

Wow... I had NO clue :s hahaha
Good to know, I guess :D
Welcome aboard, Ladies!!!

[the dude]

kewl.

[hammergirl]

I'm a girl that works with 17 men (fabricators and machinists), and that's at a firm that employs 19 people.

[c@taract_soulj@h]

Reppin the Central Mountain here...I originally grew up in the West End, so long live it!

[AndyLHoang]

Dundas!

[realcity]

West Mountain, between Paradise and Horning and Linc and Stonechurch.

I wish I lived in Durand. There aren't many places in Hamilton I'd live right now. West Mount, Durand, HAAA Grounds area, and possibly Gage Park and Concession.

[markbarbera]

On Ontario Avenue, in Stinson neighbourhood, just east of downtown.

[flar]

Stinson keeps on improving, a nice hood. I might've taken a picture of your house last week :D

[raisethehammer]

Stinson is awesome...I bike and bus through it regularly. Such a great hood.

[I, Sinclair]

Charlton and Kent, represent.

[DC83]

Charlton and Kent, represent.

I'd call that downtown... I generally refer to anything west of the 403/Chedoke Creek as 'West End'

[raisethehammer]

I'd call that downtown... I generally refer to anything west of the 403/Chedoke Creek as 'West End'

me too.

Although if you ask Hamilton's media, anywhere where a crime occured is 'downtown' ...Barton and Kenilworth, Cannon and Ottawa etc....
Places that are booming and hot to hang out are 'west end' - Hess Village, Locke St etc....
I'm guessing that once James North becomes just as popular as Locke or Westdale that they'll start calling it 'the neighbourhood just across the water from Burlington'.

[thistleclub]

I call the International Village home and generally think of downtown as Ward 2 between Hunter and Barton, partly for topographical reasons. But it's an elastic definition -- for example, Mac frosh tend to consider anything east of the 403 as downtown.

[I, Sinclair]

I'm guessing that once James North becomes just as popular as Locke or Westdale that they'll start calling it 'the neighbourhood just across the water from Burlington'.

Thanks for the laugh.

When people who are not familiar with Hamilton find out I live in "downtown" Hamilton, they think I'm crazy, and I have to spend the rest of the conversation defending myself and my apparent lack of either money or common sense.

So I usually start off with West Hamilton, but then they think I live in Dunnie.

The good news is when they finally do get what I'm talking about, and understand the quality of life I have compared to living in a similarly priced suburban Brampton home, they think I'm eccentric and urbane, not a menace to my children's wellbeing.

Someday I hope that living in Downtown Hamilton will be seen as the rational, sustainable act that it really is. Then I'll sell my house and retire!:haha:

[Millstone]

Thanks for the laugh.

When people who are not familiar with Hamilton find out I live in "downtown" Hamilton, they think I'm crazy, and I have to spend the rest of the conversation defending myself and my apparent lack of either money or common sense.

So I usually start off with West Hamilton, but then they think I live in Dunnie.

The good news is when they finally do get what I'm talking about, and understand the quality of life I have compared to living in a similarly priced suburban Brampton home, they think I'm eccentric and urbane, not a menace to my children's wellbeing.

Someday I hope that living in Downtown Hamilton will be seen as the rational, sustainable act that it really is. Then I'll sell my house and retire!:haha:

that's pretty typical.

"Where do you live?"

"Hamilton."

"Oh..."

[realcity]

Charlton and Kent, represent.

In true Hamilton fashion, (Mountain Style) anything below the mountain is 'downtown'. Haha. I remember as a kid going to another city and finding out they called their core 'downtown' as well and thinking to myself "but how can it be downtown, there's no mountain to descend?"

[BCTed]

I call the International Village home and generally think of downtown as Ward 2 between Hunter and Barton, partly for topographical reasons. But it's an elastic definition -- for example, Mac frosh tend to consider anything east of the 403 as downtown.

Mac frosh tend to consider Westdale as downtown.

[raisethehammer]

Mac frosh tend to consider Westdale as downtown.

dude...if you're going to say stupid things at least try to make them a tiny bit believable.
you're the first person i've EVER heard call Westdale 'downtown'. Lol. Now we know for certain that you're a troll. I'm also starting to think that you currently live in BC and have never actually been to Hamilton.

[Millstone]

It's interesting to see 36% of the userbase posting from downtown.

[DC83]

It's interesting to see 36% of the userbase posting from downtown.

I know, eh! That's exactly why I started this poll... I was very curious to know where all our comments were coming from. I stupidly didn't make the poll public, now I have NO idea where BCTed lives (if he even voted in the poll). ahahha

Edit: I find it a lil more interesting that 10.53% of respondants aren't even FROM Hamilton and still have an interest in our city! Neat Stuff!

I know, and have known, LOTS of Mac students from both Hamilton and abroad. None have ever referred to Westdale as "downtown". All have called in "Westdale". Mac kids (even ones from Kirkland Lake) know downtown is "on the other side of the highway [403]"... it's just unfortunate that the majority of them don't venture any further east than Hess Village. If they're really adventurous, they'll go to Gore Park and take the 25 up to Limeridge. But they KNOW that is downtown... not westdale.

[BCTed]

dude...if you're going to say stupid things at least try to make them a tiny bit believable.
you're the first person i've EVER heard call Westdale 'downtown'. Lol. Now we know for certain that you're a troll. I'm also starting to think that you currently live in BC and have never actually been to Hamilton.

You have proven time and time again that you have some kind of a reading disability. I did not refer to Westdale as downtown... I mentioned that Mac students refer to it as downtown and I was 100% telling the truth. Many students at McMaster very rarely venture off-campus while they are in Hamilton, and when they do, Westdale is as far as many of them ever go. To them, it is "downtown" and there is nothing beyond it. Those quotation marks, unlike most or all of yours, are honest-to-goodness valid.

I have not been to Van in over a year. People like you make me want to move back.

Stop referring to things I say as stupid.

[BCTed]

I know, and have known, LOTS of Mac students from both Hamilton and abroad. None have ever referred to Westdale as "downtown". All have called in "Westdale". Mac kids (even ones from Kirkland Lake) know downtown is "on the other side of the highway [403]"... it's just unfortunate that the majority of them don't venture any further east than Hess Village. If they're really adventurous, they'll go to Gore Park and take the 25 up to Limeridge. But they KNOW that is downtown... not westdale.

I don't know how big a number "LOTS" is, but I feel more than reasonably assured that it is not large enough to represent an exhaustive sample of opinions/understandings. What I just typed in my last message and what you just typed in yours re: Mac students not venturing far off-campus is not that inconsistent.

The ones I refer to may well know that Westdale is not Hamilton's true "downtown", but that is inconsequential.

[realcity]

It's true about Mac students esp the out of towners. When I went there and talked about places in the city to students in second/third year even, they had no idea about the rest of Hamilton. Westdale is the 'town', it's like a small US University Town. There is no desire to go off-campus, unless its to an off-campus residence, which is in Westdale or the area south of the Hospital. Which to me isn't Westdale. Hollywood, the Tally Ho, anywhere south of Main these home owners love to call their neighbourhood Westdale, esp the real estate agents.

[BCTed]

It's true about Mac students esp the out of towners. When I went there and talked about places in the city to students in second/third year even, they had no idea about the rest of Hamilton. Westdale is the 'town', it's like a small US University Town.

Thank you.

[DC83]

It's true about Mac students esp the out of towners. When I went there and talked about places in the city to students in second/third year even, they had no idea about the rest of Hamilton. Westdale is the 'town', it's like a small US University Town. There is no desire to go off-campus, unless its to an off-campus residence, which is in Westdale or the area south of the Hospital. Which to me isn't Westdale. Hollywood, the Tally Ho, anywhere south of Main these home owners love to call their neighbourhood Westdale, esp the real estate agents.

I believe that hood is called Aisnleywood? Named after the Ainsley Woods? Unless I'm mistaken... then pls correct me :)

And yes, I agree that most Mac students I have spent time with (which is a significant number considering I am their age) know NOTHING about Hamilton. They do know, however, that Downtown is DOWNTOWN. They like the clean, friendly, relatively crime-free area of Westdale, so they tend to stick with it.
I once asked a schooly (Mac Student) on res if she ever left campus, she replied, "OF COURSE... I go to Fortinos all the time!"
...she was referring to the one that's pretty much across Main St from Campus! hahaha

[raisethehammer]

It's true about Mac students esp the out of towners. When I went there and talked about places in the city to students in second/third year even, they had no idea about the rest of Hamilton. Westdale is the 'town', it's like a small US University Town. There is no desire to go off-campus, unless its to an off-campus residence, which is in Westdale or the area south of the Hospital. Which to me isn't Westdale. Hollywood, the Tally Ho, anywhere south of Main these home owners love to call their neighbourhood Westdale, esp the real estate agents.

nobody disagrees that too many Mac students don't venture further than Westdale, but I promise you if you snag 100 students leaving campus and ask them where downtown Hamilton is, not one of them will say "King and Marion".

[flar]

Officially, the non-Westdale parts of West Hamilton are called Ainslie Wood, Ainsley Wood East (E of the high school), Ainslie Wood West (W of powerline corridor) and Ainslie Wood North (N of Main, W of Cootes).

Also, I have never heard a Mac student refer to Westdale as downtown, they generally call it Westdale.

[BCTed]

nobody disagrees that too many Mac students don't venture further than Westdale, but I promise you if you snag 100 students leaving campus and ask them where downtown Hamilton is, not one of them will say "King and Marion".

What they know to be downtown Hamilton and what they effectively consider to be downtown are two different things. You have caused a stink and insulted me yet again over nothing.

[raisethehammer]

no I haven't.
We were having a discussion about where exactly 'Downtown Hamilton' is and you said that Mac frosh consider Westdale to be Downtown. Reading disability?? Seems pretty clear to me.
And I'm not the one throwing around insults....as usual.

[DC83]

Officially, the non-Westdale parts of West Hamilton are called Ainslie Wood, Ainsley Wood East (E of the high school), Ainslie Wood West (W of powerline corridor) and Ainslie Wood North (N of Main, W of Cootes).

Neat. Thanks, Flar. I love the idea of referring to neighbourhoods by their names rather than numbers or generalized areas (ie: west end). Toronto does it and I think it gives each neighbourhood a distinct feeling of community, and importance, despite being in a city of 5million.

Mayor Fred was suppose to rename the "wards" from numbers to neighbourhood names... he has yet to (big surprise). I could just imagine the old-timers, "Damned if I'll be a Corktownah, I'm a Ward 1'ah, dammit! I hate change!" hahaha <-- yes, apparently the old timers in Hamilton sound like New Englanders! haha

[Hammer Native]

It's true about Mac students esp the out of towners. When I went there and talked about places in the city to students in second/third year even, they had no idea about the rest of Hamilton. Westdale is the 'town', it's like a small US University Town. There is no desire to go off-campus, unless its to an off-campus residence, which is in Westdale or the area south of the Hospital. Which to me isn't Westdale. Hollywood, the Tally Ho, anywhere south of Main these home owners love to call their neighbourhood Westdale, esp the real estate agents.

I don't want to stray too much from the topic, but just for a bit of trivia I saw in Hamilton history articles the area south of Mac, (around Emerson St.) was actually a village on it's own called West Hamilton about a hundred years ago or so, before the city's boundaries went that far. It still has that village look to it even today. As another example, in East Hamilton there was a village called Bartonville, which was mainly around Cochrane Road south of Lawrence Road. Of course people think of the whole area as the Rosedale neighbourhood. I've lived in Hamilton all my 44 years and this is one of my favourite websites. I kept telling myself one day I'd jump in on it.
By the way, I live in a high rise condo on Main Street West near Wilson, facing the Dundas Conservation Area.

[raisethehammer]

I don't want to stray too much from the topic, but just for a bit of trivia I saw in Hamilton history articles the area south of Mac, (around Emerson St.) was actually a village on it's own called West Hamilton about a hundred years ago or so, before the city's boundaries went that far. It still has that village look to it even today. As another example, in East Hamilton there was a village called Bartonville, which was mainly around Cochrane Road south of Lawrence Road. Of course people think of the whole area as the Rosedale neighbourhood. I've lived in Hamilton all my 44 years and this is one of my favourite websites. I kept telling myself one day I'd jump in on it.
By the way, I live in a high rise condo on Main Street West near Wilson, facing the Dundas Conservation Area.


awesome! welcome to the forum. always nice to have newcomers.

[flar]

The city has a neighbourhood boundary map available, that's where I find the "official" names:

http://map.hamilton.ca/Static/PDFs/General%20Interest%20maps/Overall%20City/NeighbourhoodBoundaries.pdf

[Hammer Native]

The city has a neighbourhood boundary map available, that's where I find the "official" names:

http://map.hamilton.ca/Static/PDFs/General%20Interest%20maps/Overall%20City/NeighbourhoodBoundaries.pdf

I see that the city has kept some of the old village names for neighbourhoods, although they may be just over a bit from their original locations. Examples, Bartonville and Ryckman's Corners I believe are the older streets southeast of Upper James and Rymal.

[DC83]

The city has a neighbourhood boundary map available, that's where I find the "official" names:

http://map.hamilton.ca/Static/PDFs/General%20Interest%20maps/Overall%20City/NeighbourhoodBoundaries.pdf

Sweet! I've been looking for this map forever! Thanks again, Flar!

I'd prefer if 'Central' were called 'Jamesville' since that what most area residents refer to it as.

Most residents in the east-east end near Eastgate Square usually refer to the area as simply "Eastgate". I think an overhaul of all the neighbourhood names is necessary... along with redistributing the current electoral wards to reflect the influx of residents downtown w/in the last 5 years or so.

As for my old hood (Heritage Green in Upp. Stoney Creek), it's not even listed! haha Must be an old map!?

[BCTed]

no I haven't.
We were having a discussion about where exactly 'Downtown Hamilton' is and you said that Mac frosh consider Westdale to be Downtown. Reading disability?? Seems pretty clear to me.
And I'm not the one throwing around insults....as usual.

You:
- called me a troll
- stated that the things I said were stupid
- claimed that I had stated that Westdale was downtown.

All of this was in response to a perfectly legitimate post.

[matt602]

I'm gonna agree, he didn't say he thought Westdale was downtown. He was referring to the Mac students thinking that. The reply was pretty un-necessary and way too rude.

A pretty dumb feud either way.

[BCTed]

I'm gonna agree, he didn't say he thought Westdale was downtown. He was referring to the Mac students thinking that. The reply was pretty un-necessary and way too rude.

A pretty dumb feud either way.

It certainly is a silly feud. I tend to get into things with raisethehammer in large part because I strongly disagree with his manner of expressing himself on here, but this petty arguing has never gotten me anywhere --- I can never win even minor concessions in any debate, much less influence communication style. I will do my best to simply bite my virtual lip and let things slide.

[HAMRetrofit]

^ How about just not posting unless you have relevant information or something to add to the conversation. No one gives a shit about how you interpret raisethehammer's posts. I think most dread the nonsense that you post anyways.

[highwater]

Mayor Fred was suppose to rename the "wards" from numbers to neighbourhood names... he has yet to (big surprise). I could just imagine the old-timers, "Damned if I'll be a Corktownah, I'm a Ward 1'ah, dammit! I hate change!" hahaha <-- yes, apparently the old timers in Hamilton sound like New Englanders! haha

I guess I must be an oldtimer because I much prefer 'Ward 1' to the clunker they've come up with: 'Chedoke-Cootes'. Roles off the tongue much like Flambasterdas.

[highwater]

Here's a link to an essay on the history of Ainslie Woods from our neighbourhood association newsletter.

http://media.awwca.ca/site_media/uploads/essays/Ainslies_Woods.pdf

[rousseau]

I'm an occasional lurker currently living in Stratford. Before that I lived on Herkimer in that kewl three-story apartment building between Park and MacNab (those apartments are long and narrow). I went to high school at Sir John A before flitting off to do school and travels and work elsewhere.

On various occasions people here in Stratford, upon learning that we moved here from Hamilton, have taken it upon themselves to either bash Hamilton or state explicitly that we have "moved up." Disdain is never an attractive quality. My wife, who didn't grow up in Canada, did not like Hamilton very much, but since we've moved away she's come to appreciate the very unpretentious character of the city.

Aside: Raisethehammer and HAMRetrofit need to get over themselves vis-a-vis BCTed. And who are you to presume that you speak for all of us?

[the dude]

I don't want to stray too much from the topic, but just for a bit of trivia I saw in Hamilton history articles the area south of Mac, (around Emerson St.) was actually a village on it's own called West Hamilton about a hundred years ago or so, before the city's boundaries went that far. It still has that village look to it even today.

strange as it sounds, i believe 'west hamilton' was actually part of ancaster until its annexation by the city of hamilton and the subsequent development of westdale. that's what the oldtimers tell me anyway.

and before the building of the 403, part of the chedoke ravine was actually known as "ainslie's wood." probably a lot like redhill park before...well, you know.

[the dude]

I went to high school at Sir John A before flitting off to do school and travels and work elsewhere.

when did you graduate from sjam?

[raisethehammer]

Mac frosh tend to consider Westdale as downtown.

don't try to make this about me or 'interpreting things' or anything else.
Yes, this did turn into a silly feud when you replied with your usual diatrabe.
We were chatting about exact definitions of downtown Hamilton when you added this beauty above.
I don't care who had written it, I would have called them out. I was laughing when I read it because it's so not true. Mac students know exactly where downtown is, even if they never go there.
Add some decent info to these discussions once in a while.
I regularly do research, post links, add ideas and like everyone else on this board, share great enthusiasm for our city.
You only come on here to argue and make dumb comments like the one above.
If anyone else on the board had made this statement and been called on it, they would have resolved the comment quickly....either with sources to prove this completely unknown 'fact' to those of us who have lived here our whole lives or we just would have got on with the discussion.
But when you're involved, everything turns into a big drama. this isn't a soap opera board. It's Hamilton ideas and discussion. If you don't have any, please follow your own advice zip your virtual lip.

[DC83]

I guess I must be an oldtimer because I much prefer 'Ward 1' to the clunker they've come up with: 'Chedoke-Cootes'. Roles off the tongue much like Flambasterdas.

Can't be worse than our Federal Riding names, ie: Ancaster-Dundas-Flamborough-Westdale haha

I would prefer to refer to my ward as 'Corktown-Central-Strathcona' or simply as 'Downtown'... it'd be a nice change. A change this city desperately needs.

No offense to your age or generation, but we need to distance ourselves as far away from your Hamilton Generation and concentrate on the future Hamilton Generations. Obviously whatever has been done the last 50 years or so has not worked. So it's time we try it our new way!

I'm surprised we even call councillors 'councillors' and not 'alderman' anymore. I'm too young to remember when that switched over, but I bet 'old timers' freaked when it did! hahaha

[matt602]

The Federal riding names are horribly outdated and made me shudder so many times during the last provincial election.

I hated having to vote under Hamilton East-Stoney Creek. I LIVE IN HAMILTON! I don't want anything to do with Stoney Creek.

[DC83]

The Federal riding names are horribly outdated and made me shudder so many times during the last provincial election.

I hated having to vote under Hamilton East-Stoney Creek. I LIVE IN HAMILTON! I don't want anything to do with Stoney Creek.

You think THAT'S bad, when I was living in Upper Stoney Creek, I was voting for Niagara-West-Glanbrook :s I was not in Niagara, nor was I in Glanbrook!! It made me so angry b/c it ended up going Conservative b/c there are so many hardcore Christians in the Lincoln Township area... it's kinda eerie out there.

So WHY would a MP from Niagara give a crap about a Hamilton suburb? Oh wait... they don't! hahaha

[raisethehammer]

You think THAT'S bad, when I was living in Upper Stoney Creek, I was voting for Niagara-West-Glanbrook :s I was not in Niagara, nor was I in Glanbrook!! It made me so angry b/c it ended up going Conservative b/c there are so many hardcore Christians in the Lincoln Township area... it's kinda eerie out there.

So WHY would a MP from Niagara give a crap about a Hamilton suburb? Oh wait... they don't! hahaha

what the heck does 'hardcore Christian' have to do with anything?? I know plenty of people who voted Conservative last election that are as far from hardcore Christian as you can find. lol. Don't let the US media and their insane politics rub off on you. It's simply a different animal up here.

[rousseau]

when did you graduate from sjam?
1985. Erm...probably right around the year you were born?

[highwater]

You think THAT'S bad, when I was living in Upper Stoney Creek, I was voting for Niagara-West-Glanbrook :s I was not in Niagara, nor was I in Glanbrook!! It made me so angry b/c it ended up going Conservative b/c there are so many hardcore Christians in the Lincoln Township area... it's kinda eerie out there.

So WHY would a MP from Niagara give a crap about a Hamilton suburb? Oh wait... they don't! hahaha

I feel your pain. We got lumped in with Ancaster and Flamborough and now we have David "men are natural influencers, women are natural followers" Sweet.

[flar]

David Sweet, former president of the Promise Keepers, now our MP. :yuck:

[DC83]

what the heck does 'hardcore Christian' have to do with anything?? I know plenty of people who voted Conservative last election that are as far from hardcore Christian as you can find. lol. Don't let the US media and their insane politics rub off on you. It's simply a different animal up here.

You're completely correct and I apologize, rth. I would NEVER want to associate Canadian Christians to American Christians... those ones are just plain crazy! haha they care more about their personal agendas than the actual religion.

I feel your pain. We got lumped in with Ancaster and Flamborough and now we have David "men are natural influencers, women are natural followers" Sweet.

Oooh, ya, I forgot about that. That's a shame. I couldn't believe he got elected!? Oh well, he'll be out once then next election rolls around. Maybe Chapman can run against him? hehe