[mersar]

There is finally some detail coming out about this project, located at the corner of 4th Street and 11th Avenue SW (currently a parking lot with an adjacent building that will be incorporated)

It was proposed last year and a few Calgary forumers got a bit of a peak at but until recently theres been no renderings released. Plus some information from one of the forumers who works for the city with an unofficial height: 269M to the top of the spiral.

Still no name for the project however. The developers had indicated in the past that they'd wanted to be in the ground for this project by spring 2009.The project will incorporate an already existing building, the Duff Building, which is located on the east of the site. The tower will have both above and below grade parking, then number of floors of office space. Above the office space will be residential with a spiral feature on the roof which will serve to hide some of the related mechanical systems. In total there will be 45 floors (33 residential and 12 commercial I believe was the breakdown).

Renderings courtesy Bokimon
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/bokimon/Architecture/BOBO6796.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/bokimon/Architecture/BOBO6795.jpg

[StatenIslander237]

Not a bad design....decent height......LOVE the way it's placed away from the other tall buildings, it extends the skyline......folks, I think we may have a winner!

[HomeInMyShoes]

269m? It would be the tallest in Calgary by quite a bit (albeit some is the pointy top), but The Bow is only 236m. Bankers Hall pictured in the last picture is 197m. In that picture it's not looking close to 269m, although the perspective is quite deceiving. The overall style isn't doing much for me, but the location is definitely interesting.

[koops65]

A bit of number crunching shows the average height per floor to be around 5.3 metres (assuming the spire is around 30 metres). Give me a break... no residential is going have floor to floor heights of 17+ feet...

[CtrlAltDel]

It's 169m not 269m. One of the Calgary forumers misread the DP.

[koops65]

Thanks... that sounds WAY more realistic.

[Spocket]

Yeah, I found that to be an incredible figure too. Thanks for the correction on the height.

I rather like the design (personal taste , to each their own I suppose) but I have to admit that the location is what makes it that much more appealing. What are the odds that this thing will actually get built though ?

[Surrealplaces]

Even 169m is quite tall for the area it's going into. I'd rather see it around 130m myself, but I can live with 169m ;)

[mersar]

Yeah, I found that to be an incredible figure too. Thanks for the correction on the height.

I rather like the design (personal taste , to each their own I suppose) but I have to admit that the location is what makes it that much more appealing. What are the odds that this thing will actually get built though ?

Hard to say. Procura is currently building another building that has seemingly been under construction for an eon now (the Montana). They do seem to take their time, and the lot for this one is pretty prime, by the time its completed there will be 3 other brand new towers within a block of it (an office building across the intersection thats nearing completion, an office condo to the east, and another residential on the block to the north.

[HomeInMyShoes]

Hey mersar do you have the names/heights of the other towers in that area that are proposed? I'm curious how this area is going to build out.

[pablosan]

That is a pretty interesting looking building.

[Boris2k7]

There is another tower just across the street that is proposed, but only around about as tall as the brown building to the centre left of the second rendering (~65m). There are a pair of condo towers, 84m and 92m, under construction a block to the north. And then just north of those towers is the proposed Alberta Boot project which should clock in at about 125m and 180m. And across the CPR tracks to the north of that is the Eighth Avenue Place office project at 166m and 211m. Other than the Alberta boot project, there are no buildings of comparable height in the immediate area.

[HomeInMyShoes]

Thanks Boris2k7. Alberta Boot <<shudder>>. :) I'll have to look that one up.

[Boris2k7]

I have it on my front page

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=144410

[Calgarian]

I like it. Construction should be about a year off.

[HomeInMyShoes]

I have it on my front page

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=144410

Nice. Seriously better than what I was imagining. Then again, no one wants to see what I was imagining. :)

[Coldrsx]

decent attempt, but failed at incorporation of the elements. I also am of strong belief it is trying to use all of the current "contemporary parts" that are popular right now in design.

7/10

[coolguyj]

i dont like that second rendering but the first and third are awesome

[Tom Servo]

ew

[Thinner6]

New rendering:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/joshwhit/procura.jpg

[Boris2k7]

This project is now called H2O

A tweaked version of that last rendering that I posted in the Calgary Construction a while back

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/4576/procura4pm2.jpg

[Surrealplaces]

Still not that crazy about it.

[TOBoy]

Base doesn't seem to be working. Good height, but that it about all.

[Reesonov]

Just really really bad. I wouldn't even wish this on my worst enemy (which means to say Edmonton of course)

[Calgarian]

I like it, not the best project, but not bad.

[NDPhilly]

this should be the prime skyscraper out of many
that are being built in Calgary. I like the design and the glass a lot

[koval95]

nice looking building, when is the construction starting?

[1ajs]

i beleave its an abadoned pit at this time i could be mixing my sites up

[defaultuser]

it's still surface parking and a small building. there's a pit a block away (midtown) or you could be thinking of one-ten (aka sky tower,) but that's blocks from here.

[bob1954]

Love to see a few more of this "type" of mixed use buildings in this area, 150-200 meter range!! This is'nt too bad at all, and 170 meters is nice height. Hope it gets built!

[03SVTcobra]

Love to see a few more of this "type" of mixed use buildings in this area, 150-200 meter range!! This is'nt too bad at all, and 170 meters is nice height. Hope it gets built!

I agree

I like it and I hope it gets built

[O-tacular]

I definitely hope this one gets built. It's such a departure from the standard box tower that it adds alot to our skyline. This and Condo Arts are my two most hoped for projects. Unfortunately now that Torode is claiming insolvency Condo Arts is probably destined for the chopping block.

[Bigtime]

H2O eh? More like H2No right now! :haha:

I don't know, when I first saw this proposal I thought it was pretty sweet. But now I think it is seriously needing a complete rework. When they presented it at the BPG meeting I was not impressed at all with the residential portion, the oval shape just wasn't working for the layouts.

This project probably won't go ahead anytime soon, Procura is a slow moving beast with much smaller projects than this one.

O-Tac: I wouldn't get too concerned about Condo Arts yet. Torode hasn't put any of his "Torode brand" companies into CCAA at this time. Just the two companies he developed arriVa under. Now if he starts chopping the named companies it would be in trouble.

[O-tacular]

Good to know Bigtime (if you could have theme music for your avatar you would have to use the Phil Collins song:cool: ) Any werd on the status of the Mica Lexier squiggle? It'd be a damn shame if that was cancelled too.

[Bigtime]

Good to know Bigtime (if you could have theme music for your avatar you would have to use the Phil Collins song:cool: ) Any werd on the status of the Mica Lexier squiggle? It'd be a damn shame if that was cancelled too.

I figure the Scribble stays in limbo until something gets figured out for the arriVa 42 site. I wonder if they sell the project will the new owner commit to it?

Edit: Peter Gabriel, although he sure sounds like Phil Collins in the song!

[JBinCalgary]

i would really like to see this come through

[bob1954]

Like H2o a lot, hope it gets done! Maybe they can stretch it to about 190-200 mters!

[ScottFromCalgary]

I'm not a fan of the design, although I like the concept. I find it pretty unlikely that this goes forward in its current form, considering the current market.

[CMD UW]

^agreed.

I am not down with that arch on the podium...I mean, what is the rationale for that?

[rapid_business]

/\ yup, i agree. It doesn't seem to speak the same arch. language at all.

[mersar]

^agreed.

I am not down with that arch on the podium...I mean, what is the rationale for that?

The arch covers the point where the new building and the existing building meet, behind the arch was supposed to be an open lobby type area

[CMD UW]

The arch covers the point where the new building and the existing building meet, behind the arch was supposed to be an open lobby type area
Not liking it. This could have been achieved in another manner.

[Vascilli]

Trash the arch and I'm all for it.

[blacktrojan3921]

Jeeze; this tower sure looks dead

[Chadillaccc]

Dead in the H2O?

... I mean... dead in the water?

[nick.flood]

There is a rumoured redesign in the works.

[JBinCalgary]

Lets hope so!

[Calgarian]

The design has been posted before, might even be on the front page of the main thread.

[MichaelS]

Now called the Duff building:
http://www.procura.ca/projects/calgary/commercial/duff/#future

[Chadillaccc]

Cool so what's going on? Is it moving ahead?

[Tropics]

I would love this project to go ahead and pull some more height south of the tracks and get rid of the walled edge that 9th ave is atm. We need some buildings pushing 200m to start to be built south of the tracks.

[TallBob]

Ya! 2-3 175 - 200 meter buildings south of the "tracks" would be a great start.

[Calgarian]

I don't think I want to see buildings that tall in the beltline, lets keep some sun and leave the really tall buildings for the CBD.

[TallBob]

Calgarian: If there's a good mix of some low - rise stuff also in the Beltline, it would'nt prevent sunlight from the area. In the future, 10-20 years from now and the economy stays good, that's where the Higher density, high-rise developement will have to go. And ideally that's probably the most logical place for such developement. It's pretty much a concensus that most folks don't want the taller buildings close to the river or in Eau Claire.

[DizzyEdge]

I'm ok with the Beltline having downtown-like density (or partially) down to the north side of 12th ave.

[Calgarian]

I'm ok with the Beltline having downtown-like density (or partially) down to the north side of 12th ave.

If the building heights step down from the CBD to the Beltline to 12th that's fine, I just don't think a 200m tower is appropriate on say, 15th Ave.

[rapid_business]

What does the Beltline plan currently say for height? Is there a height limit, or just limited by FAR?

[TallBob]

rapid business: I think in most blocks north of 14th Ave. are pretty generous on FAR. I could be wrong. As far as I'm concerned, and this is strictly my opinion, there should'nt be height limits anywere DT, Beltline, ect. But that's me.

[Halcyon]

What does the Beltline plan currently say for height? Is there a height limit, or just limited by FAR?
No height regulations, but there are floor plate restrictions above certain heights.

So while you can build a tower as high as you want, you should be prevented from making it a monolith.

[TallBob]

Halcyon: That's OK! Wish something like that would have happened with some of the other buildings in the Core. Is this "Duff" proposal moving along in the proccess or what...