According to ABC news report: based on job growth, available jobs, city incentives to industry, available land & construction, etc etc
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/TakeControlOfYourLife/story?id=4419714&page=1
1. Salt Lake City, Utah
2. Wichita, Kansas
3. Austin, Texas
4. Atlanta, GA
5. Fort Worth, Texas
ATXboom
03-12-2008, 09:09 PM
No surprises... these are all places where home prices are going up still as well.
Metro Matt
03-12-2008, 09:29 PM
TEXAS REPRAZENT!!!
:cool:
urbanactivistTX
03-12-2008, 10:20 PM
Well hopefully we can continue the 2-day streak of the stock market going up, thanks to a very innovative fed plan that might "bail out" the banks.
These are traditionally recession-resistant markets. Florida used to be, but the sub-prime scandals have put it in the center of the losses this time.
Rusty van Reddick
03-12-2008, 11:10 PM
None of these can in any way shape or form touch Calgary.
SuburbanNation
03-12-2008, 11:48 PM
None of these can in any way shape or form touch Calgary.
good point. wait...what?
JDRCRASH
03-12-2008, 11:54 PM
Well hopefully we can continue the 2-day streak of the stock market going up, thanks to a very innovative fed plan that might "bail out" the banks.
These are traditionally recession-resistant markets. Florida used to be, but the sub-prime scandals have put it in the center of the losses this time.
I think you spoke to soon. The Dow closed more than 30 points lower today.
Marcu
03-12-2008, 11:57 PM
Hmmm. All five are in Right To Work states.
Just a right wing rag list.
Nothing more.
If the world was included, the most business friendly cities would be those that support child labor and slavery.
See China, India, ectal...
It is a big race to the bottom. I would not be very proud if I lived in one of these supposed friendly communities. I would get the heck out of Dodge and get a real job that pays a living wage.
Modern Design
03-13-2008, 01:16 AM
According to ABC news report: based on job growth, available jobs, city incentives to industry, available land & construction, etc etc
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/TakeControlOfYourLife/story?id=4419714&page=1
1. Salt Lake City, Utah
2. Wichita, Kansas
3. Austin, Texas
4. Atlanta, GA
5. Fort Worth, Texas
Salt Lake City???Wichita???Strange ...very strange...
IdahoMountainBoy
03-13-2008, 03:11 AM
The list seems reasonable but can some one describe Wichita's ranking for me?
emathias
03-13-2008, 03:23 AM
No surprises... these are all places where home prices are going up still as well.
Uh, no. Not for at least half a year.
DFW LUV
03-13-2008, 04:57 AM
The list seems reasonable but can some one describe Wichita's ranking for me?
" 2. Witchita, Kan., where aircraft and petroleum industries have bounced back and looking to hire for their production lines. There are also plenty of opportunities for health care workers. " - From the article
I would guess because Wichita is a medium-sized metro area without the high population growth of the other cities, it would rank high due to a greater number of job openings with less competition.
Capt AWACS
03-13-2008, 04:59 AM
Texas as a whole is growing. Houston had over 100,000 in job growth last year. San Antonio and Dallas and even some of the smaller towns had growth. No big surprise...and right to work helps.
Ciao,
AWACS
galaca
03-13-2008, 05:20 AM
Just a right wing rag list.
Nothing more.
If the world was included, the most business friendly cities would be those that support child labor and slavery.
See China, India, ectal...
It is a big race to the bottom. I would not be very proud if I lived in one of these supposed friendly communities. I would get the heck out of Dodge and get a real job that pays a living wage.
hehe
Marcu
03-13-2008, 06:06 AM
Just a right wing rag list.
Nothing more.
If the world was included, the most business friendly cities would be those that support child labor and slavery.
See China, India, ectal...
It is a big race to the bottom. I would not be very proud if I lived in one of these supposed friendly communities. I would get the heck out of Dodge and get a real job that pays a living wage.
Actually, these cities have some of the highest real wage to cost of living ratios in the country. They also have low unemployment rates and fairly high employment rates which shows that people from all income levels are able to find jobs. And considering a "real wage" in San Francisco, Boston, Chicago, or New York is now well over 80k/yr per household and unemployment rates are well above the national average , I think these cities are doing quite well.
But great job addressing the list on the merits instead of resorting to a cheap, emotion driven political argument.
tdawg
03-13-2008, 01:38 PM
Calgary??? Ha. No thank you. Great place to visit and ski but TOO COLD! Atlanta added as many people as metro Calgary in the past ten years!
Buckeye Native 001
03-13-2008, 03:01 PM
The list seems reasonable but can some one describe Wichita's ranking for me?
Aerospace
the common thread is younger higher growth cities, that have lots of available land, inexpensive housing, and leadership that is pushing the growth
10023
03-13-2008, 06:03 PM
Does that say Wichita, Kansas?
LivingIn622
03-14-2008, 01:17 AM
those smaller cities out west are booming. how can you people not see wichita being on there?
arbeiter
03-14-2008, 01:56 AM
Just a right wing rag list.
Nothing more.
If the world was included, the most business friendly cities would be those that support child labor and slavery.
See China, India, ectal...
It is a big race to the bottom. I would not be very proud if I lived in one of these supposed friendly communities. I would get the heck out of Dodge and get a real job that pays a living wage.
Normally I like reading what you have to say, but your statement was pretty tacky - your argument about it being a right wing rag list would make sense if Austin and Atlanta weren't on the list, but Austin especially is a clearly liberal metro area, and both Austin and Atlanta have excellent wages in comparison to the cost of living. Wichita seems a bit suspect to me, but SLC is a major metro area, and downright progressive by American standards in terms of urban planning. These aren't small potatoes places... and if it really is just a right-wing race to the bottom, why isn't Oklahoma City, Birmingham, Provo, Colorado Springs, etc on the list?
^You are right, that was just silly. All of those 5 cities have very good well above average quality of life and progressive attitudes.
Modern Design
03-15-2008, 06:46 PM
"^You are right, that was just silly. All of those 5 cities have very good well above average quality of life and progressive attitudes."
Could you expand on what you call progressive attitudes..because if it is what i have in mind Salt Lake City should never be in such a list.
DeadManWalking
03-15-2008, 10:47 PM
According to ABC news report: based on job growth, available jobs, city incentives to industry, available land & construction, etc etc
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/TakeControlOfYourLife/story?id=4419714&page=1
1. Salt Lake City, Utah
2. Wichita, Kansas
3. Austin, Texas
4. Atlanta, GA
5. Fort Worth, Texas
Wichita is kind of a surprise to me. Being from Kansas, Wichita isn't exactly known as having the strongest or most stable job market, though in certain fields there is opportunity.
shovel_ready
03-17-2008, 02:20 AM
Great, a laundry list of cities I'd never want to live in...
ATXboom
03-17-2008, 03:39 PM
^^^ Classy. It is quite obvious you have never left Buffalo, let alone visited any one of these places.
I grew up about 2 hours from Buffalo. Now I'm still glad I've never been.
"^You are right, that was just silly. All of those 5 cities have very good well above average quality of life and progressive attitudes."
Could you expand on what you call progressive attitudes..because if it is what i have in mind Salt Lake City should never be in such a list.
We're talking about job growth and business development here, not your social agenda.
steel
03-17-2008, 06:11 PM
^^^ Classy. It is quite obvious you have never left Buffalo, let alone visited any one of these places.
I grew up about 2 hours from Buffalo. Now I'm still glad I've never been.
Your loss
shovel_ready
03-17-2008, 07:39 PM
^^^ Classy. It is quite obvious you have never left Buffalo, let alone visited any one of these places.
I grew up about 2 hours from Buffalo. Now I'm still glad I've never been.
You must have missed the part where I actually said something bad about those cities...oh wait, I didn't.
Evergrey
03-17-2008, 11:39 PM
^^^ Classy. It is quite obvious you have never left Buffalo, let alone visited any one of these places.
I grew up about 2 hours from Buffalo. Now I'm still glad I've never been.
You grew up 2 hours from Buffalo yet never visited? WTF!?
Modern Design
03-18-2008, 03:13 AM
We're talking about job growth and business development here, not your social agenda.
Social agenda??What are you talking about??You didn't answer my question..what progressive attitude has to do with job growth and business development??
Social agenda??What are you talking about??You didn't answer my question..what progressive attitude has to do with job growth and business development??
Im in the Ft Worth area, and I know this city is very attractive to new business because they have put in place the infrastructure to attract company expansions and HQ's. Some of it is through annexing growth areas along transportation lines, providing tax incentives and cheap land. Brownsfields programs, Grants, Technology funding, enterprise - business & trade zones, property tax abatements (up to 10 yrs), and various funding through grants and small business loans.
The combination of providing city leadership that actively goes after business, relatively low cost of living, available land, and an increasing work force provides for employment growth.
Im guessing the other cities on the list have similar characteristics.
Now you mentioned SLC, what was your point there?
Modern Design
03-18-2008, 02:34 PM
Im in the Ft Worth area, and I know this city is very attractive to new business because they have put in place the infrastructure to attract company expansions and HQ's. Some of it is through annexing growth areas along transportation lines, providing tax incentives and cheap land. Brownsfields programs, Grants, Technology funding, enterprise - business & trade zones, property tax abatements (up to 10 yrs), and various funding through grants and small business loans.
The combination of providing city leadership that actively goes after business, relatively low cost of living, available land, and an increasing work force provides for employment growth.
Im guessing the other cities on the list have similar characteristics.
Now you mentioned SLC, what was your point there?
Ok, now i see what are you talking about.I just mentioned SLC because i saw you talking about progressive attitude.According to my limited knowledge of what means progressive attitude, SLC seemed(and still is) to be a missfit.
^SLC seems to be very pro business, perhaps even a bit more white collar than Ft Worth, I know housing is more expensive there and land, but it is growing tremendously and always ranks very high in quality of living. Their housing market hasnt tanked as badly as many areas as well.
mobius42
03-19-2008, 01:52 AM
^SLC seems to be very pro business, perhaps even a bit more white collar than Ft Worth, I know housing is more expensive there and land, but it is growing tremendously and always ranks very high in quality of living. Their housing market hasnt tanked as badly as many areas as well.
I believe that Modern Design is referring to cultural/social progressive attitude in regard to Salt Lake City. Admittedly, suburban Salt Lake is not very progressive. However, I guarantee you Salt Lake City itself is, even by Modern Design's definition, a very progressive city.
I believe that Modern Design is referring to cultural/social progressive attitude in regard to Salt Lake City. Admittedly, suburban Salt Lake is not very progressive. However, I guarantee you Salt Lake City itself is, even by Modern Design's definition, a very progressive city.
MD can comment on that if he chooses too, that was what I thought, but based on the reaction it was something else.
Modern Design
03-19-2008, 08:28 PM
MD can comment on that if he chooses too, that was what I thought, but based on the reaction it was something else.
He is right...i acknolodge that SLC has a pro business attitute, but i have a hard time seeing SLC city having progressive attitute (culturally and socially).
^^depends on what you consider progressive
Modern Design
03-20-2008, 05:43 PM
^^depends on what you consider progressive
My definition of progressive is as simple as the word itself...Like mobius42 said, progressive attitude for me involves cultural,social,political. I just don't think SLC are progressive as far as these aspects goes...Then i might be wrong since i have never lived there..this is only based on what i friend of mine from Utah and from what i have read about the city..Just to give an ideia of what i think is progressive.Cities like Chicago, Vancouver, L.A for exemples are cities that i consider having progressive attitude.SLC, Colorado Springs, Birmingham AL in the other hand are not.
Again this is just my opinion and how i define progressive attitude.
arbeiter
03-20-2008, 05:49 PM
You know what the best antidote to these cities' conservatism? Liberal people from other states moving in and contributing to the growth, bringing their ideas of tolerance with them. This is what will slowly change Utah - many of the out of staters moving there are moderate or even liberal.
My definition of progressive is as simple as the word itself...Like mobius42 said, progressive attitude for me involves cultural,social,political. I just don't think SLC are progressive as far as these aspects goes...Then i might be wrong since i have never lived there..this is only based on what i friend of mine from Utah and from what i have read about the city..Just to give an ideia of what i think is progressive.Cities like Chicago, Vancouver, L.A for exemples are cities that i consider having progressive attitude.SLC, Colorado Springs, Birmingham AL in the other hand are not.
Again this is just my opinion and how i define progressive attitude.
Okay. But being progressive is subjective.
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