[pdxman]

Billionaire Ed Roski hopes so...possibly by 2009. Now, I'm not from LA or have I ever lived there but I do LOVE it there and when I read about this I had to post it. It doesn't sound as if the NFL is very interested in bringing a team to Los Angeles at this point, but they certainly do have a tempting offer before them in the form of Roski's current proposal. The proposal looks pretty cool but I don't know how people from LA feel about it, so comment away!

Here's the website detailing the stadium plan:
http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com/

http://static.losangelesfootballstadium.com/photo-4.jpg

Story from todays Times:

NFL in L.A. gets a new blueprint

Roski unveiling his plan for a stadium in the City of Industry, but is the league interested?

By Sam Farmer, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
April 17, 2008

Convinced he can succeed where so many before him have failed, billionaire developer Ed Roski today will unveil plans for a proposed NFL stadium in the City of Industry, aimed at luring the league back to the Los Angeles area.

NFL executives have already visited the site, which is near the intersection of the 57 and 60 freeways, and have had several conversations with Roski.

The league routinely had those meetings with other people interested in developing other football stadiums around Southern California, which has been without an NFL team since the Raiders and Rams left after the 1994 season.

"I think this is important for Los Angeles, for the fabric of the city," said Roski, who along with Philip Anschutz built Staples Center. "The city has done real well without the NFL, and the NFL has done real well without the city. But I think it's important to have a professional football team in Los Angeles."

Roski's proposal is different from most because he controls the land necessary to build the stadium, training facilities and related development; and he already has a certified environmental impact report for the site.

The proposal suffered a setback Wednesday when state lawmakers blocked an effort by the City of Industry to divert $820 million in property tax revenue to use it for development subsidies.

Roski said that if an NFL team is willing to relocate, construction on the stadium can begin this fall and be finished in time for the 2011 season. He added the team could begin playing in Los Angeles by the 2009 season, and conceivably use the Coliseum or Rose Bowl as a temporary home in the interim.

Roski said the design of his stadium will save hundreds of millions of dollars in construction costs. Plans call for two-thirds of the venue to be built into the existing hillside, eliminating the need for as much steel and concrete to support the superstructure. Also, the concept puts all the suites and club areas on one side of the stadium, allowing for those to be housed in a lower-cost structure than those of typical stadiums.

To coincide with today's news conference, Roski's development team has created a website ( www.losangelesfootballstadium.com ) that provides more information on the proposal.

For the last few years, league owners and executives have made it clear that returning to L.A. is not among their top priorities.

At the moment, the league is focused on working out its differences with the players union, improving its revenue-sharing system between clubs, and reaching more households with the league-owned NFL Network.

sam.farmer@latimes.com
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nfl17apr17,1,6367185.story

[LAMetroGuy]

the location is terrible, I would never go to this in a million years. City of Industry, are you kidding me...

[LosAngelesBeauty]

^ I agree. It's a horrible choice. The only place I would be very excited for any NFL team to return to LA, is in LA - at the Coliseum.

[LAsam]

Don't worry, not happening!

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2008/04/about_that_nfl.php

[sopas ej]

LA needs a football team like it needs a monster truck rally.

[RuFFy]

I don't know if I'm imagining things, but Ed Roski wants to build LA Live all over again in City of Industry. A theater, a football stadium, office space and retail???

Forget about the NY / LA comparisons.. looks like City of Industry wants to be like LA. ???

http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com

[ThreeHundred]

I don't know if I'm imagining things, but Ed Roski wants to build LA Live all over again in City of Industry. A theater, a football stadium, office space and retail???

Forget about the NY / LA comparisons.. looks like City of Industry wants to be like LA. ???

http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com


I saw this on the news this morning. While it's a awesome idea, what the hell is wrong with the Coliseum?? Ed Roski sure is bold (he said that construction could start in the fall) and he also wants either the New Orelans Saints, Pittsburg Steelers, or the San Diego Chargers to move here.

[ladowntowner]

I saw this on the news this morning. While it's a awesome idea, what the hell is wrong with the Coliseum?? Ed Roski sure is bold (he said that construction could start in the fall) and he also wants either the New Orelans Saints, Pittsburg Steelers, or the San Diego Chargers to move here.

I agree, but I'll take it further. The city of Los Angeles should absolutely refuse to allow it's name to be attached to any team that does not play within the actual borders of the city proper and back it up with court action if needed - with extreme pressure to locate at the historic Coliseum. The City of Industry Steelers or Southern California Chargers just don't have the same ring or sense of recognition and that alone could provide a fair deal of leverage.

In a few years, light rail will service the area and such a proposition could really help turn the neighborhood surrounding Exposition Park around in a meaningful way if approached properly. Does the Coliseum need upgrading? Yes, of course it does, and would be part of any plan. But I also believe that any modifications should not destroy it's basic historic ambiance. Rather, it should enhance it in a respectful manner. There's just too many positives to be gained by the city to allow any other plan to go down with it's blessing.

It's the only move that makes sense.

[ThreeHundred]

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[ladowntowner]

^ Nice images, yes. And I'm sure the suburban dwellers would feel nice and safe attending a game there, however there's no reason something comparable can't be done at the Coliseum/Exposition Park and surrounding neighborhood. Think another zone equivalent to L.A. Live, only with a historic centerpiece. It's not even at the geographic center of the region, let alone the population center:

http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com/app/interfaces/public/img/map-all.jpg

See how the Westside, South Bay and SFV (even a portion of DT!) are all outside of the 25 mile radius? And almost half of the area is comprised of the Angeles National Forest (and a good chunk of the Clevland National Forest)! The Coliseum is much more central geographically and population wise, as well as much better served by freeways and public transportation - which will only get better in the future with the addition of the aqua line, or whatever color they're calling it these days.

[Echo Park]

Wow. What a terrible stadium. looks like citywalk on steroids. absolutely terrible. the colesium needs a state of the art renovation. it needs to do to expo what staples center did/is doing for south park.

[Echo Park]

i mean whatever i have no problem with roski plopping down a stadium there. industry steelers sounds kinda cool. san gabriel valley saints might be okay too. but please lets not have this stadium do anything with los angeles.

[StethJeff]

This proposal is worse than every other proposal for an NFL stadium in LA. I'd easily take the Rose Bowl, Coliseum, Anaheim, Carson, etc. ideas before this one.

[Easy]

Someone asked what's wrong with the Coliseum? Just about everything. It doesn't have enough parking. I know that people can take the Expo line, but that won't put money in the owners pockets. It doesn't have real luxury boxes. It was also built for track and field and the stadium is too large for football. They had to move the field all the way to one end which makes the other end of the stadium unusable.

It's also still controlled by the Coliseum Commission which is a highly political group that has refused to negotiate with the NFL. They feel that they can do this because the City of Los Angeles voted not to allow the NFL to pursue a stadium anywhere in the city besides the Coliseum. This despite the fact that the NFL owners have made it clear that they will not award a new team to the Coliseum. That's why this is in Industry and not Los Angeles.

[ladowntowner]

Someone asked what's wrong with the Coliseum? Just about everything. It doesn't have enough parking. I know that people can take the Expo line, but that won't put money in the owners pockets. It doesn't have real luxury boxes. It was also built for track and field and the stadium is too large for football. They had to move the field all the way to one end which makes the other end of the stadium unusable.

It's also still controlled by the Coliseum Commission which is a highly political group that has refused to negotiate with the NFL. They feel that they can do this because the City of Los Angeles voted not to allow the NFL to pursue a stadium anywhere in the city besides the Coliseum. This despite the fact that the NFL owners have made it clear that they will not award a new team to the Coliseum. That's why this is in Industry and not Los Angeles.

I guess more parking can't be built near the Coliseum then? Shit - Roski's proposal requires a "mountain" to be moved:

http://static.losangelesfootballstadium.com/elevation-wireframe-big.gif
So I imagine more parking structures (though I hate 'em) could be built for the Coliseum and any adjoining "entertainment district" if need be.

I guess luxury boxes can't be added, either then? Nor the stands be reconfigured? Doing this still has the be less of a feat than starting from scratch and moving mountains for a stadium that isn't even centrally located, and it doesn't have to harm the basic historical shell of the existing structure.

The city needs to get with the program here...

[JDRCRASH]

Wow. What a terrible stadium. looks like citywalk on steroids. absolutely terrible.

:sly:

It's just fine to me. Maybe it should be built around the L.A River where development has been slower as of late.:yes:

[ladowntowner]

i mean whatever i have no problem with roski plopping down a stadium there. industry steelers sounds kinda cool. san gabriel valley saints might be okay too. but please lets not have this stadium do anything with los angeles.

Only problem is no one outside of the region knows where the hell either of these places are, nor gives a shit. As I said, no name recognition.

[ladowntowner]

:sly:

It's just fine to me. Maybe it should be built around the L.A River where development has been slower as of late.:yes:

We already have an existing stadium with a grand historic past. Why should we waste resources and more $$ than needed by starting completely from scratch? Realizing, of course, any reconfiguration at the Coliseum will cost major bucks too... just not nearly as much.

Also, keep in mind the much needed revitalization that would be realized around Expo Park... with more prestige and momentum for DT in it's wake. I think the city's doing right by forcing the Coliseum issue, but they really need to convince the NFL that they are wanted and welcomed here and that the city is willing to work with them.

[ThreeHundred]

:sly:

It's just fine to me. Maybe it should be built around the L.A River where development has been slower as of late.:yes:

Find space near the LA River for a football stadium.

And I don't see why LA can't do to the Coliseum what Chicago did to Soldier Field.

What's wrong with this?

http://football.ballparks.com/NCAA/Pac10/USC/newaerial.jpg

[San Marino Guy]

They should put that stadium somewhere in the Industrial District in Downtown perhaps just east of Los Angeles Street and connect it with public transit with some type of rail or monorail to teh Metro Rail Lines and Union Station. Then it would really help to revitalize the entire area.

[JDRCRASH]

I guess more parking can't be built near the Coliseum then? Shit - Roski's proposal requires a "mountain" to be moved:

So I imagine more parking structures (though I hate 'em) could be built for the Coliseum and any adjoining "entertainment district" if need be.

I guess luxury boxes can't be added, either then? Nor the stands be reconfigured? Doing this still has the be less of a feat than starting from scratch and moving mountains for a stadium that isn't even centrally located, and it doesn't have to harm the basic historical shell of the existing structure.

The city needs to get with the program here...

No kidding....

But this definately belongs in Downtown Los Angeles, not the City of Industry, having been there myself TONS of times. And with good reason; even if it was built, is there any chance that when they broadcast from it, they won't say "live from the ??? Stadium in THE CITY OF INDUSTRY, *blah*blah*blah", but instead: "live from the ??? Stadium in DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES *blah*blah*blah"?

Not really......what will clueless people think of the City of Industry? New Jersey? Somewhere in Nebraska? WHERE??!!!

[WonderlandPark]

If this thing is entirely funded by the team and NFL, I have no issues with it. The Coliseum will not work for the NFL and potential owners. It is a dead issue. If they want to finance it and build it out in Industry or wherever, fine. I am not going to drive all the way out there, but, hey, you may find 60.000 people who will. In that 25 mi. circle are still 6-7 million people probably, more than most NFL markets. And transit for the NFL has never really been an option, most places don't have traffic issues on Sundays, most places don't want to set up heavy service on a Sunday, it is for 8 games a year plus any playoffs. It makes no sense whatsoever to attach heavy transit infrastructure to an NFL stadium. none.

[JDRCRASH]

We already have an existing stadium with a grand historic past. Why should we waste resources and more $$ than needed by starting completely from scratch? Realizing, of course, any reconfiguration at the Coliseum will cost major bucks too... just not nearly as much.

Also, keep in mind the much needed revitalization that would be realized around Expo Park... with more prestige and momentum for DT in it's wake. I think the city's doing right by forcing the Coliseum issue, but they really need to convince the NFL that they are wanted and welcomed here and that the city is willing to work with them.

I hate to break it to you, but Wonderlandpark is right. The National Football League Commission has repeatedly said that it WON'T return to the Coliseum....period. And i'm not sure the college is fine with having a Professional Football Team taking residence. Do you have any other relevant options?:shrug:

Expensive? Most likely. Heck, by now its renovation costs must have exceeded well past $1 Billion, what with the cost of construction and all.
Look, the reality is that if we continue waiting and don't start real talk of building a new stadium soon, it will only require more funds, which will only shrink in the short-term. We need to do something NOW.

[ladowntowner]

I hate to break it to you, but Wonderlandpark is right. The National Football League Commission has repeatedly said that it WON'T return to the Coliseum....period. Do you have any other relevant options?:shrug:

Expensive? Most likely. Heck, by now its renovation costs must have exceeded well past $1 Billion, what with the cost of construction and all.
Look, the reality is that if we continue waiting and don't start real talk of building a new stadium soon, it will only require more funds. We need to do something NOW.

Or not.

But if they are that stubborn, they can try to relocate a franchise to a ridiculous stadium in the boonies - in a town without any name recognition - and hope that it will be a successful move - F*** 'em.

These proposals come around regularly and not one has amounted to more than a shiny website with cool renders. Might they just be a way of scaring the City/C.C. into coming up with the "right" incentive package at the Coliseum?

[ThreeHundred]

No kidding....

But this definately belongs in Downtown Los Angeles, not the City of Industry, having been there myself TONS of times. And with good reason; even if it was built, is there any chance that when they broadcast from it, they won't say "live from the ??? Stadium in THE CITY OF INDUSTRY, *blah*blah*blah", but instead: "live from the ??? Stadium in DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES *blah*blah*blah"?


Sure they will. There are quite a few football teams that don't play in their respective cities:

The Buffalo Bills play in Orchard Park, New York.
The New York Jets and New York Giants play in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
The Washington Redskins play in Landover, Maryland.
The Dallas Cowboys play in Irving, Texas.
The New England Patriots play in Foxboro, Massachusetts
The Arizona Cardinals play in Glendale, Arizona.

[WonderlandPark]

And L.A. has no say in using the name of Los Angeles. Case study: The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. :haha:

The actual city or suburb doesn't matter. really.

[StethJeff]

Sure they will. There are quite a few football teams that don't play in their respective cities:

The Buffalo Bills play in Orchard Park, New York.
The New York Jets and New York Giants play in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
The Washington Redskins play in Landover, Maryland.
The Dallas Cowboys play in Irving, Texas.
The New England Patriots play in Foxboro, Massachusetts
The Arizona Cardinals play in Glendale, Arizona.

In the case of the Cardinals though, they aren't using the city of Phoenix in the team's name.

[Echo Park]

:sly:

It's just fine to me.

if architecture were music your favorite artist would probably be britney spears.

[StethJeff]

Find space near the LA River for a football stadium.

And I don't see why LA can't do to the Coliseum what Chicago did to Soldier Field.

What's wrong with this?

http://football.ballparks.com/NCAA/Pac10/USC/newaerial.jpg

The problem with the above image is that it doesn't look like this:

http://www.wildnatureimages.com/images%202/060308-206.jpg

I'm all for renovating old buildings in DTLA into residences but the Coliseum is a little different in my mind. It's one of the most beautiful, historic, and important structures in the city - I'd rather it resemble its past than LA Living it just to put an NFL team in the city.

[ladowntowner]

And L.A. has no say in using the name of Los Angeles. Case study: The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. :haha:

The actual city or suburb doesn't matter. really.

Which I always that was really lame (sorry LA of Anaheim).

I imagine the city could fight in a court of law against the use of it's name for a team it doesn't sanction out of spite towards the NFL. Doesn't mean it would win, but it doesn't mean it wouldn't. At least it would let the world know where it stands on the issue.

Look. The city has somehow survived, what, 14 years without the NFL? They need the city more than the city needs them, the way I see it. Sure, it would be nice to get a team, properly utilize a grand public structure and have that part of town revitalized as a side effect. That's the goal of the city, and a damn fine one. The city could benefit immensely and the franchise at the Coliseum would likely do better than one in the boonies. But if the NFL just ain't havin' it, F*** 'em - banished to the boonies they are. But I, for one, am not holding my breath for that stadium to be built.

[ThreeHundred]

My opinion is this: Both the LA Raiders and The Anaheim Rams of Los Angeles fled, and by all accounts, LA has done fine. It seems to me that the NFL needs Los Angeles more than Los Angeles needs the NFL. LA is a sports mecca and we've done well these past 14 years without a football team. We have so much to fall back on. Take the Jaguars away from Jacksonville and what do they have? I mean we had a 3-peat, the Angels and Ducks both won championships, the Clippers (!!) were good for a year, and despite that one night in Colorado, Kobe scored 81 points and is back to being loved.

Besides, I think the Trojans are our 'football' team.

[jlrobe]

Someone asked what's wrong with the Coliseum? Just about everything. It doesn't have enough parking. I know that people can take the Expo line, but that won't put money in the owners pockets. It doesn't have real luxury boxes. It was also built for track and field and the stadium is too large for football. They had to move the field all the way to one end which makes the other end of the stadium unusable.

It's also still controlled by the Coliseum Commission which is a highly political group that has refused to negotiate with the NFL. They feel that they can do this because the City of Los Angeles voted not to allow the NFL to pursue a stadium anywhere in the city besides the Coliseum. This despite the fact that the NFL owners have made it clear that they will not award a new team to the Coliseum. That's why this is in Industry and not Los Angeles.

There is so much underutilized land around that area. One could easily Build a massive parking garage or two or three. The parking problem would be solved. Then sell the land and stadium to the NFL and let them deal with construction, etc. No loans, no gimmicks, no giveaways. Just give the NFL the right to demo or refurbish the area as they need.

Done deal!

[amizle]

Just to clear up some facts about the football stadium proposal gotten from ESPN. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3351752)

-It is expected to cost $800 million entirely funded by Roski and other investors (not AEG). Not a single tax-dollar.

-Supposed to save $400 million by building it on the side of the hill.

-Site was zoned and got its EIR in 2004.

-Would only get built if a team agreed to move in.

I think it's a great idea. Not having an NFL team here is a joke seeing how the NFL is the most popular league in the US and we are the second largest city in the US. As mentioned before a lot of teams don't actually play in the city they are named for but the residents of those cities still have a lot of pride in the team. Plus if this stadium was built we would be guaranteed to host 3-5 Super Bowls which would bring in more $200 million to the city's economy per superbowl.

[DJM19]

I think the fact that its way out there is a huge joke. The design is simply awful. If they weren't so intent on making it such a sprawling, confusing mess, they could probably fit it on a plot closer to the central population.

[Easy]

The City of Industry is in Los Angeles County. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with them having Los Angeles in their team name.

There is so much underutilized land around that area. One could easily Build a massive parking garage or two or three. The parking problem would be solved. Then sell the land and stadium to the NFL and let them deal with construction, etc. No loans, no gimmicks, no giveaways.

The NFL owners don't want to buy anything. They want taxpayers to build stadiums and give it to them. They also don't want to have to deal with the semi-government called the Coliseum Commission. From news reports I don't think that there are any NFL owners even slightly interested in moving into the Coliseum. We need to let it go.

Just give the NFL the right to demo or refurbish the area as they need.

Done deal!

I couldn't disagree more.

[erickg47]

Just to clear up some facts about the football stadium proposal gotten from ESPN. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3351752)

-It is expected to cost $800 million entirely funded by Roski and other investors (not AEG). Not a single tax-dollar.

-Supposed to save $400 million by building it on the side of the hill.

-Site was zoned and got its EIR in 2004.

-Would only get built if a team agreed to move in.

I think it's a great idea. Not having an NFL team here is a joke seeing how the NFL is the most popular league in the US and we are the second largest city in the US. As mentioned before a lot of teams don't actually play in the city they are named for but the residents of those cities still have a lot of pride in the team. Plus if this stadium was built we would be guaranteed to host 3-5 Super Bowls which would bring in more $200 million to the city's economy per superbowl.

Well Said:tup:

[milquetoast]

First, the NFL is a c*** f*****' piece of s***! Secondly, there is no reason why anyone with any talent whatsoever can't come in and utilize the peristyle of the Memorial Coliseum in their final design, install luxury boxes around the perimeter, (there can be more boxes installed on that perimeter than anywhere else I assure you) and work up the surrounding area, which is not inadequate! Roski, thanks for the success of the Staples Center but get some more of your rich friends together and lay off this location. It's way out there beyond Covina and I want to see the downtown of my hometown from a blimp again!http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/trolltoast/aerial.jpgfootball.parks.com

[DJM19]

Its BARELY in los angeles county, and none of the people who live there are angelinos...im not sure what to call them...industrialists?

Those people don't live in the city that even affords them these amenities for their disposal. If a stadium is going to use LA's name, reputation, and history, it should be located closer to that region and perhaps benefit that region in its tax revenues and jobs. Nothing against the east county, but it is what it is because of LA.

The only reason I would support the NFL coming to LA again is if it benefited los angeles directly (in exchange for using its name for the team) and if it added nice architecture to the city.

[ladowntowner]

The City of Industry is in Los Angeles County. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with them having Los Angeles in their team name.

OK... they can call the team "The City of Industry Saints/Steelers/Chargers/Bumblef*cks of Los Angeles County." They shall not be allowed to use the name Los Angeles without attaching "County" to it, so that it will be made apparent that they have been shunned by the City of Los Angeles because the NFL has no respect for history and is simply greedy.

I can't help but suspect a large part of the NFL's aversion to the Coliseum is it's immediate neighborhood, even more than any stated or implied shortcomings of that site. I will tell you one thing about many of the area's residents - they are hardcore, die-hard football fans - 14 years after the Raiders bailed on the city they are still loyal to that team. Without effort you can find numerous individuals decked out in Raiders gear on any given day...

[ladowntowner]

According to wiki, a grand total of 777 people lived in Industry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry%2C_California) at the time of the 2000 census. That's one hell of a hometown fan base. :lmao:

[milquetoast]

THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY INDUSTRIALISTS OF ANAHEIM!http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/trolltoast/nfl_athu_foo.jpg kcbsportsmarketing

[Westsidelife]

There's plenty of room to build something here:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2236/2415244958_0b7f350b41_b.jpg
From Flickr, by _YoYoH_

[edkao]

I think what everyone is forgetting is this:

The Los Angeles Coliseum is a HISTORICAL LANDMARK.

You have to preserve the look of the Coliseum if you want to do any kind of renovation. The preservationists are using Soldier Field as a example of what NOT to do when renovating a historical landmark stadium. Just as the Rose Bowl upgrades fell thru. Because of the historical landmark designation, no way any modern modification is going to happen to the Coliseum or the Rose Bowl.

I believe a new stadium if the only way to go. A modern facility, forget parking (I wish), built transit next to the stadium.

I agree City of Industry location is not ideal, have you tried to drive on the 60 Freeway near Industry? On a Sunday? Nor is City of Irwindale an ideal location. I would like to say the best location would be where Dodger Stadium is... But that's another can of worms.

[RuFFy]

I think this is a great idea. We need to face the facts.. EVERYONE in the City of LA has something to say AGAINST a stadium. Next to staples center, the rail yard, the coliseum, the rose bowl, long beach, the state, Carson.. the list goes on and on.. So Roski did the one thing nobody thought could be done, he proposed it in a business friendly community with 777 residents. He owns the land and this will NOT be the first time a Stadium is located outside the city borders. The Giants/Jets play in another state for crying out loud. I understand the sense of pride, but it's been done before. Roski is trying to make the NFL a reality for Los Angeles and realistically speaking, this might be the city's only chance.

[JDRCRASH]

According to wiki, a grand total of 777 people lived in Industry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry%2C_California) at the time of the 2000 census. That's one hell of a hometown fan base. :lmao:

:haha:
Are you kidding me??!!

Thats smaller than Irwindale!!!

[RuFFy]

Hmm... San Diego is looking for a new Stadium..

Los Angeles Chargers (again).. We'll see.. Anyhow.. Roski is saying the stadium is a sure thing.

[dragonsky]

Coliseum doesn't have room for luxury suites or balconies, which can really produce enough incomes and cash flows for the professional football team.

[sopas ej]

This proposal is worse than every other proposal for an NFL stadium in LA. I'd easily take the Rose Bowl, Coliseum, Anaheim, Carson, etc. ideas before this one.

Carson too? Carson is just as ugly as the City of Industry, if not uglier. And apart from the very little-used 110 Freeway busway, Carson isn't really transit-handy, either.

[sopas ej]

:haha:
Are you kidding me??!!

Thats smaller than Irwindale!!!

Hehe not as small as the City of Vernon, another mostly industrial city. Its population according to the 2000 census is only 91.

As an aside, these cities incorporated as special tax shelters for businesses and industry, something that wouldn't be allowed today because in the 1960s, California counties established LAFCOs (Local Agency Formation Commissions), which allows for a more orderly and fair process of determining community self-rule. So it doesn't allow special interest groups to form their own cities just because they want tax shelters for industry, or form an entirely gated exclusive residential city (like Bradbury, Hidden Hills, Rolling Hills).

[JDRCRASH]

There's plenty of room to build something here:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2236/2415244958_0b7f350b41_b.jpg
From Flickr, by _YoYoH_

Thats what i've been trying to say; all of that land southeast of Downtown is only being used for Industrial and Manufacturing purposes, so it would be perfect for a Stadium.

[StethJeff]

Hopefully the Chavez Ravine idea gains some more traction. With all of the grand plans that the McCourts have for Dodger stadium and their push for public transport there, wouldn't this be a logical place for an NFL team to call home?

- Close to the "center" of the Socal metro
- Actually in the city of Los Angeles
- Possible sight-lines to Downtown
- In an already established professional sporting complex area
- Probable improved transport to the area that would no doubt get an even bigger push if another 80,000+ stadium were built there
- Perhaps improve the already up-and-coming surrounding areas

[StethJeff]

In addition, I'd also like to plug my idea for a new team name if an expansion team were created or if a preexisting franchise were to relocate here: The Los Angeles Mammoth.

- Cute and furry vs. Mean and intimidating. Marketing bonanza!
- Speaks to LA being a 'mammoth' metro
- Plays up LA's rich paleontology
- Original team name
- Ray Romano voice-overs

[ReDSPork02]

In addition, I'd also like to plug my idea for a new team name if an expansion team were created or if a preexisting franchise were to relocate here: The Los Angeles Mammoth.

- Cute and furry vs. Mean and intimidating. Marketing bonanza!
- Speaks to LA being a 'mammoth' metro
- Plays up LA's rich paleontology
- Original team name
- Ray Romano voice-overs

lol, I prefer the Gladiators!! cuz we already haave the TRojans!! so it sticks to an ancient theme.


If he wants to build it fine, as long as TAX payers money isnt used !!!! AND I will be bold in saying that this is the last proposal ANYONE will make in years! Its this or Nothing!

[JDRCRASH]

lol, I prefer the Gladiators!!


:jester:
LOL, thats the same name I was thinking of!:D

I can just see it now!!!!... "The Los Angeles Gladiators"!!!

[JDRCRASH]

In addition, I'd also like to plug my idea for a new team name if an expansion team were created or if a preexisting franchise were to relocate here: The Los Angeles Mammoth.

- Cute and furry vs. Mean and intimidating. Marketing bonanza!
- Speaks to LA being a 'mammoth' metro
- Plays up LA's rich paleontology
- Original team name
- Ray Romano voice-overs

:hahano:

[StethJeff]

Yeah but the gladiator/spartan/trojan idea is tired, especially in this city.

Mammoths are prehistoric! And we have them across from a Koo Koo Roo!

[JDRCRASH]

Yeah but the gladiator/spartan/trojan idea is tired, especially in this city.

Mammoths are prehistoric! And we have them across from a Koo Koo Roo!

Okay, what about "The Los Angeles Earthquakes"?

[StethJeff]

Okay, what about "The Los Angeles Earthquakes"?


how is that original? might be one of the most recycled sports names in California - rancho cucamonga quakes, San jose earthquakes, etc.

[JDRCRASH]

Not everything has to be original. Besides, it makes more sense then calling them the "Mammoths".:rolleyes:

[StethJeff]

Not everything has to be original.

if you lack creativity and can't think on your own, then i suppose you're right. why not just do what everyone else does? :koko:

[JDRCRASH]

if you lack creativity and can't think on your own, then i suppose you're right. why not just do what everyone else does? :koko:

You also have to consider the reason behind the name, regardless if it's been used by another sports franchise or not.

[krudmonk]

Please please please don't use "Earthquakes."

[bjornson]

To go the way of JDR, but the almighty JDR suggested it...

[ThreeHundred]

Ideas for names:

LA Rampage
LA Tremors
L Pride
LA Monsoon
LA Sol

[dragonsky]

Gladiators

[ThreeHundred]

LA Riots

[svs]

If you wqant to bring back an old name, try the Hollywood Stars!

[DowntownCharlieBrown]

LA Riots

:haha:

Los Angeles Wild Fires

[ThreeHundred]

I actually would just call them the LAXX

[JDRCRASH]

Bold NFL Prediction: "We are going to have a team here next September"

Thursday, August 28, 2008, by jwilliams

Reporters Jennifer McLain and Ben Baeder of the San Gabriel Valley Tribune report that Los Angeles could have professional football as soon as 2009.
"Majestic Realty Vice President John Semcken also said he believes there is a possibility two NFL teams could wind up playing in the $800 million stadium Roski wants to build in Industry. "We are going to have a team here next September," Semcken said Tuesday afternoon."
While the new Los Angeles football stadium in the City of Industry is being built, the NFL team would play for two seasons in the Rose Bowl. Semcken went on to add that seven teams have "expressed interest" in coming to the new LA stadium. Woo-hoo, football!

[StethJeff]

Bold NFL Prediction: "We are going to have a team here next September"

Thursday, August 28, 2008, by jwilliams

Reporters Jennifer McLain and Ben Baeder of the San Gabriel Valley Tribune report that Los Angeles could have professional football as soon as 2009.
"Majestic Realty Vice President John Semcken also said he believes there is a possibility two NFL teams could wind up playing in the $800 million stadium Roski wants to build in Industry. "We are going to have a team here next September," Semcken said Tuesday afternoon."
While the new Los Angeles football stadium in the City of Industry is being built, the NFL team would play for two seasons in the Rose Bowl. Semcken went on to add that seven teams have "expressed interest" in coming to the new LA stadium. Woo-hoo, football!

so let's get this straight. for two years they'll play in the shitty rose bowl that has awful parking, awful traffic, few amenities, etc. then they'll get to play at a stadium located ~30 miles from DTLA right next to the infamous 57/60 interchange where there is basically no public transportation infrastructure. add to that the fact that the city of industry is mostly composed of rows of storage warehouses flanking the 60 freeway.

sounds awful. someone needs to come up with a viable plan that includes a stadium somewhere in the city of la or anaheim where a stadium makes sense, future public transportation access, plenty of parking, etc. this idea for the city of industry doesn't really sound appealing at all. :yuck:

[JDRCRASH]

Hold on a minute!!! You guys might want to scratch that out, and make that 6 teams; I just saw on the news moments ago that the Minnesota Vikings seem to have withdrawn from a meeting with Roski because they apparantly have no further interest in the future venue.

As for the location; I was thinking; why not put a stadium somewhere along the beach, like Santa Monica or something like that? It kind of makes sense to me, since playing football on the beach appears to be popular among people.

[JDRCRASH]

Pasadena Star-News:


EIR calls NFL site best in Southland

By Jennifer McLain, Staff Writer
Article Launched: 09/03/2008 10:42:45 PM PDT

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site205/2008/0903/20080903_060706_Ch_01_Executive_Summary.pdf

An environmental impact report issued Wednesday calls an undeveloped 592-acre parcel near the junction of the 57 and 60 freeways in Industry the best place in Southern California for a professional football stadium. The 800-page report was prepared for Industry by a Costa Mesa research firm. It reviewed the plans of billionaire developer Ed Roski to build an $800 million National Football League stadium. Roski is head of Industry-based Majestic Realty Co., part-owner of the NBA's Lakers and NHL's Kings, and co-owner of Staples Center. He had originally planned to construct a retail and entertainment complex on the site. He switched gears earlier this year in hopes he could bring the NFL back to Los Angeles in time for the 2009 season. The report ranked the Industry site ahead of the Rose Bowl, the Coliseum and the parking lot of Angel Stadium as a location for a pro football stadium. It also found the project would bring air quality problems, noise issues, traffic jams and increased demands for public services to the East San Gabriel Valley. The public has 45 days to respond to the report, which is available at Industry City Hall. Industry's mayor praised the stadium proposal on Wednesday. "Everyone I have spoken to loves the idea of an NFL stadium in the San Gabriel Valley," mayor Dave Perez said. "But they also have the same concern: traffic." The report is a supplement to a 2004 environmental report that examined the impact of Roski's original proposal for mixed retail and office buildings at the location. It looked specifically at the effect of an NFL stadium and sought input from several government agencies, including school and sanitation districts, city councils and transportation agencies. Roski wants to build a 75,000-seat stadium with practice fields, training facilities, and team offices. His proposal also lists a sports medical center as well as restaurants, entertainment facilities, offices and a parking lot to accommodate all usages. Despite projecting an increase in greenhouse gasses, Wednesday's addendum concludes that a stadium on the site is a better alternative than the office and retail complex proposed in 2004. "Emissions generated by the revised Plan of Development would be lower than those generated by the 2004 (plan)," the report notes. "In addition, the revised Plan of Development would result in a reduction of .. building square footage (and) therefore would generate less GHG emissions over the course of construction activities." The report also studied more than 80 key intersections near the site. It concludes that the commercial center proposed in 2004 would generate 92,056 daily vehicle trips. But the stadium at the site on a typical Monday night game would only generate 69,744 vehicle trips. The EIR is split into 14 sections and includes nine appendices. Among the sections are reports on geology, water quality, noise, air quality, aesthetics and transportation. The appendices include a letter from Diamond Bar's planning director that expresses concern about a neighborhood that borders the site. A letter from Clement Lau, a planner with the Los Angeles County Department of Parks and Recreation, expresses concern that games will affect attendance at a nearby golf course. The report also notes that local tribal elders were contacted in case artifacts are discovered during construction. The environmental report is one of the many steps Roski must go through if he wants to bring an NFL team to Los Angeles, which his business partner said last week could happen as soon as next year. Majestic Realty vice president John Semcken said that a team would play at the Rose Bowl until Roski's stadium is completed in 2011. Officials representing San Gabriel Valley cities said they will hold off supporting the project until they have an opportunity to review the report.

jennifer.mclain@sgvn.com

(626) 962-8811, Ext. 2477

www.insidesocal.com/sgvgov

[StethJeff]

As for the location; I was thinking; why not put a stadium somewhere along the beach, like Santa Monica or something like that? It kind of makes sense to me, since playing football on the beach appears to be popular among people.

I can't believe this actually needs to be spelled out for someone, but here goes:

1) $$$ - Beachfront property in LA is among the most expensive real estate in the nation.
2) Eyesore. Miami/Waikiki hotels are one thing, but a stadium?? That is not the kind of development that people want near their beaches.
3) Not a very central location. The beaches are relatively close for people in Los Angeles but not to the rest of the metro. In fact its at one of the metro's geographical extremes.
4) Traffic 10x worse than anywhere else.

most importantly . . .

5) WTF do people playing tackle football at the beach have anything to do with someone dropping $1B on the contruction of a 80K-seat stadium????

[JDRCRASH]

:sly:

[dragonsky]

Coliseum option was eliminated. Absolutely there is NO professional football team will play in such a stadium, which if USC is not happy, and they have to get out the stadium right away. I respect USC football a lot, but basically It's All About Business. Antonio has already sold Coliseum to USC for "at least" 25 years. I think there shall be optional extension on that contract.

http://www.downtownnews.com/articles/2008/09/08/news/09-08-08-news01.txt

The changes are part of an ongoing series of upgrades that began over the summer and will continue for the next several years as part of the new deal between the Coliseum and the school that will keep the USC football team in the Exposition Park stadium for at least 25 years.

In exchange, the school will pay the Coliseum Commission 8% of the ticket sales as rent and have the right to consent to any football team that wants to play at the Coliseum. The two could also work together on a naming rights deal for the stadium.

[StethJeff]

Driving up and down the 60 a couple of times over the weekend reaffirmed the fact that an Industry stadium would be an awful idea. With the exception of the price tag, I only see negatives building there.

[Buckeye Native 001]

Driving up and down the 60 a couple of times over the weekend reaffirmed the fact that an Industry stadium would be an awful idea. With the exception of the price tag, I only see negatives building there.

Really. That area is congested enough without the hassles associated with stadium traffic...

[PHX31]

Ideas for names:

LA Rampage
LA Tremors
L Pride
LA Monsoon
LA Sol


I'm a lurker, obviously, but I'm a football fan, and a son of LA natives (and Rams fans).

These are the worst names I've ever heard of in my entire life, especially the LA Monsoon (LA doesn't feel the effect of the American Southwest Monsoon season). Out of these, the best would be "L Pride", which is misspelled and sucks.

The LA team (hopefully it comes to fruition sooner rather than later) should have a name that has to do with the ocean. I'd pick the Los Angeles Riders or Los Angeles Catchers (ride/catch a wave, or catching fish off the docks or catching abalone) or I'd pick an oceanic species name, like the whales... Los Angeles Whales would be awesome. There are no "whale" mascots in all of pro sports, even though whales are possibly the greatest/most interesting/coolest spiecies of animal on the planet (plus the double meaning of "whale" being a big-time gambler... we all know how LA peeps love going to Las Vegas or LA area casinos.)

[StethJeff]

I'm a lurker, obviously, but I'm a football fan, and a son of LA natives (and Rams fans).

These are the worst names I've ever heard of in my entire life, especially the LA Monsoon (LA doesn't feel the effect of the American Southwest Monsoon season). Out of these, the best would be "L Pride", which is misspelled and sucks.

The LA team (hopefully it comes to fruition sooner rather than later) should have a name that has to do with the ocean. I'd pick the Los Angeles Riders or Los Angeles Catchers (ride/catch a wave, or catching fish off the docks or catching abalone) or I'd pick an oceanic species name, like the whales... Los Angeles Whales would be awesome. There are no "whale" mascots in all of pro sports, even though whales are possibly the greatest/most interesting/coolest spiecies of animal on the planet (plus the double meaning of "whale" being a big-time gambler... we all know how LA peeps love going to Las Vegas or LA area casinos.)

For somewhat similar reasons, my idea was the LA Mammoth.

[krudmonk]

Los Angeles Catchers
What would you name a baseball team? The Cornerbacks? Maybe the LA Kings should become the Point Guards.

[StethJeff]

Re: LA Catchers

Not sure we want to associate with "catching". Might as well be the LA Reach-Arounds.

[JDRCRASH]

For somewhat similar reasons, my idea was the LA Mammoth.

:lmao:

LOL; thats the most F****d up name ever.

[ThreeHundred]

I'm a lurker, obviously, but I'm a football fan, and a son of LA natives (and Rams fans).

These are the worst names I've ever heard of in my entire life, especially the LA Monsoon (LA doesn't feel the effect of the American Southwest Monsoon season). Out of these, the best would be "L Pride", which is misspelled and sucks.

The LA team (hopefully it comes to fruition sooner rather than later) should have a name that has to do with the ocean. I'd pick the Los Angeles Riders or Los Angeles Catchers (ride/catch a wave, or catching fish off the docks or catching abalone) or I'd pick an oceanic species name, like the whales... Los Angeles Whales would be awesome. There are no "whale" mascots in all of pro sports, even though whales are possibly the greatest/most interesting/coolest spiecies of animal on the planet (plus the double meaning of "whale" being a big-time gambler... we all know how LA peeps love going to Las Vegas or LA area casinos.)

The LA Whales..lol. That's even worse. The Miami Dolphins works because at least they have history.

Oh and you misspelled species.

JDR: Behold. The Colorado Mammoth.

http://www.rockylax.com/images/Colorado%20Mammoth.jpg

[JDRCRASH]

We don't exactly see that white stuff in L.A. during winter, right?:D

[Echo Park]

I'll show you some white stuff, JDRCRASH.

[JDRCRASH]

Meh, I think i'll pass.

[ThreeHundred]

I'll show you some white stuff, JDRCRASH.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

[StethJeff]

We don't exactly see that white stuff in L.A. during winter, right?:D

Are you associating 'mammoth' with the ski resort or something?

[PHX31]

Thanks for pointing out my misspelling of "species", threehundred. Good catch.

I didn't point out your misspelling for the sake of pointing it out... I was ironically pointing out that the best name out of all of them would be one that was misspelled.

The worst names in all of sports are the non --s names like "Pride" "Mammoth" "Heat" "Thunder", etc.

How does "Whales" suck? Cool animal, gaming/gambling ties, strong/powerful/top of the food chain.

Eh, whatever.

[JDRCRASH]

Are you associating 'mammoth' with the ski resort or something?

No, I'm referring to the fact that Colorado is at a much higher elevation, and receives much more ft (yes, FEET) of snow than Los Angeles.

Also, Mammoths of course lived in subzero climates during the Ice Age.

[ThreeHundred]

Thanks for pointing out my misspelling of "species", threehundred. Good catch.

I didn't point out your misspelling for the sake of pointing it out... I was ironically pointing out that the best name out of all of them would be one that was misspelled.

The worst names in all of sports are the non --s names like "Pride" "Mammoth" "Heat" "Thunder", etc.

How does "Whales" suck? Cool animal, gaming/gambling ties, strong/powerful/top of the food chain.

Eh, whatever.

The NBA for example only has 4 teams without an s at the end. And they are all good names (sans the OKC Thunder). Utah Jazz, Orlando Magic, Miami Heat. Though the Hornets and the Jazz should swap. Other leagues should take note. Btw..I love some of the names of MLS. New England Revolution, D.C. United, Dallas FC, Real Salt Lake. Totally unlike anything seen in other sports leagues. Which is why when (if) LA gets a football team, they should do something original. Even though there is a strong chance of us getting stuck with (Earth)quakes, Tremors, Fire or something.

Although the LA Magnitude does sound dope.

[krudmonk]

False. "Earthquakes" is the best name in MLS.

[StethJeff]

No, I'm referring to the fact that Colorado is at a much higher elevation, and receives much more ft (yes, FEET) of snow than Los Angeles.

Also, Mammoths of course lived in subzero climates during the Ice Age.

Maybe you should educate yoruself a little better and go to the La Brea Tarpits . . . one of the world's richest Ice Age digs . . . in the middle of the City of Los Angeles.

You're right, it doesn't make sense at all. What would Mammoth have to do with Los Angeles?

[pizzaguy]

Any team name that doesn't end with an "s" is fucking retarded.

[StethJeff]

Any team name that doesn't end with an "s" is fucking retarded.

:previous: Close-minded

Boston Red Sox
Chicago White Sox
Miami Heat
Orlando Magic
Utah Jazz
Colorado Avalanche
Minnesota Wild
Tampa Bay Lightning
Most of the MLS
Most of the EPL
Most of La Liga
Most of Serie A

[ThreeHundred]

FC Dallas (MLS) ends in a s.

:frog:

[JDRCRASH]

Maybe you should educate yoruself a little better and go to the La Brea Tarpits . . . one of the world's richest Ice Age digs . . . in the middle of the City of Los Angeles.

You're right, it doesn't make sense at all. What would Mammoth have to do with Los Angeles?

That still doesn't explain why the name still doesn't seem to fit.:sly:

[StethJeff]

That still doesn't explain why the name still doesn't seem to fit.:sly:

nice dodge. :rolleyes:

[JDRCRASH]

What dodge? My arguement? It's pretty clear that when you say "nice dodge", you were trying to attack me, so nice try.

Besides, I didn't say that they didn't live in Los Angeles. But Los Angeles was a much colder climate 10,000 years ago. Do you honestly think that when people think of L.A., they're gonna think of Mammoths?! You can often act like such a :dunce:.