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stanford
Apr 22, 2008, 4:44 PM
Taiwan plans multibillion-dollar project to modernize international airport

TAIPEI, Taiwan: Taiwan plans to spend billions of dollars (euros) to renovate its dilapidated international airport near the capital of Taipei and build an ultramodern satellite town around it, officials said Tuesday.

The plan, which includes building a new terminal, an additional runway and airport maintenance facilities, is a key infrastructural project proposed by incoming President Ma Ying-jeou.

As planned, a satellite town will be built next to the airport development to include hotels, shopping malls, trade exhibition halls and a residential area.

Total investment for the Taoyuan International Airport and the adjacent town — occupying an area of 7,200 hectares (17,780 acres) — is slated for 1.2 trillion New Taiwan dollars (US$40 billion, €25 billion), officials said.

Legislative approval for land acquisition and construction work is expected shortly after Ma's inauguration in May 20, said Chu Li-lun, chief executive of Taoyuan County in northern Taiwan.

"We welcome international and mainland Chinese investors to invest in the project," Chu told The Associated Press.

"If South Korea, Singapore and Hong Kong can build modern airports, so can we," he added.

The current international airport, inaugurated 28 years ago, has become aged and its operation has been criticized as inefficient.

A recent international airport quality assessment ranks the Taiwan airport 98th out of 136 major airports in the world, said Chiang Chun-ting, a Taoyuan County government official.

The new project could create 80,000 new jobs and generate NT$600 billion (US$20 billion, €12.6 billion) in annual revenues, he said.

Copyright © 2008 the International Herald Tribune All rights reserved

jjl
Apr 26, 2008, 11:48 AM
This is some of the best news I've heard in awhile. Airports are important, i mean its one of the first things tourists and business people see when they enter your country. HK, China, South Korea, Japan all have excellent airport facilities. I hope they opt for an entirely new big terminal. I hate cheesy add ons, but what is what I'm hoping for just wishful thoughts? T2 wasn't all that great but it's only been in service for so long :(

williamchung taiwan
May 6, 2008, 10:47 AM
that is very good!

Australiasian
May 12, 2008, 10:47 PM
all these talks!? when tho?

williamchung taiwan
Aug 19, 2008, 3:00 PM
we are still waiting
still waiting............
still waiting............

Coyett
Oct 22, 2008, 5:48 PM
Terminal 1 Renovation

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/CKS1-1.jpghttp://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/51.jpghttp://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/49.jpg

jjl
Oct 23, 2008, 9:22 AM
Gross... and the terminals aren't getting updated? What a disappointment. Moreover, the renovation does not match terminal 2. New nice airport line is getting linked to this...

When I look at the many nice airports in the Asia Pacific, I can't help but feel ashamed.:(

ed21x
Oct 23, 2008, 6:14 PM
one consolation is that they have at least put in new lighting and revamped counters and check-in gates in terminal 1.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/153810444_d997389adf.jpg

Razqal
Oct 23, 2008, 6:51 PM
Gross... and the terminals aren't getting updated? What a disappointment. Moreover, the renovation does not match terminal 2. New nice airport line is getting linked to this...

When I look at the many nice airports in the Asia Pacific, I can't help but feel ashamed.:(

that's why i keep saying they should just start from scratch and build a whole new airport next to the old one. they have the land for it. and hire a big-name foreign architect who really knows how to design for the future!!! antonio callatravas!!

wannabeplanner
Jan 25, 2009, 4:07 PM
still no update on the reno project? What's the hold up?

metroXpress
Jan 25, 2009, 7:14 PM
Hello Taiwanese government???

What's going on with the reno???

I thought you guys have a plan for the "Third Terminal"...is that cancelled?

ed21x
Jan 27, 2009, 1:50 PM
they've upgraded the lighting and floor and are in the process of swapping out the check-in counters I last remember. Also, the underground restaurants no longer exist (undergoing rennovations for the metro), and the departure hall restaurants are closed as well. I'd say a revamp of the inside shouldn't be that much more work... just give the walls a new cladding and it should look fairly presentable. It's the outside that needs to get started.

SpeedoPro
Feb 8, 2009, 7:25 PM
omg, the entire airport soo needed a complete makeover last century.. it's not even funny.:rolleyes:

williamchung taiwan
Feb 9, 2009, 1:23 AM
The good news is the terminal 1 is going to close this June because the redevelopment!

wannabeplanner
Feb 11, 2009, 5:53 PM
The good news is the terminal 1 is going to close this June because the redevelopment!

That's fantastic news! How long are they closing T1 for? Are all traffic redirected to T2? Is there enough capacity? What about SongShan airport? Any plans to renovate that thing? That airport is looks like its in need of a major reno as well!

williamchung taiwan
Feb 12, 2009, 4:47 AM
That's fantastic news! How long are they closing T1 for? Are all traffic redirected to T2? Is there enough capacity? What about SongShan airport? Any plans to renovate that thing? That airport is looks like its in need of a major reno as well!

Actually, I get this info from this news!

http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url/d/a/090204/78/1dvrj.html

一航站將關閉改建 航空公司恐慌
更新日期:2009/02/04 04:09
〔記者姚介修、李文儀/綜合報導〕桃園機場老舊的一期航站今年六月將發包全面改建工程,由於交通部長毛治國要求兩年內完工,一期航站面臨關閉,但至今航空公司及相關廠商都未接到通知,航空公司擔心桃園機場將進入黑暗期。


一期航站仍有近十家航空公司班機運作,某航空公司主管表示,一期航站每天旅客的運量與班機起降時間帶擁擠的時段和二期差不多,如果一期關閉,旅客班機入出全部轉到二期航站運作,對航空公司、旅客來說都會是一場噩夢。


民航局長李龍文表示,一期航站改建原定一百零一年底完工,為壓縮工期、提早達成,確實不排除採取航站全部封閉的措施,但可能方案不只一個,一、兩週內會定案。


李龍文指出,航站全部封閉當然對趕工最有利,但二期航站能否負荷所有運量、海關防疫設施及航空公司因應等問題一大堆,必須要有配合條件才能全封;封閉一半也是考量方案之一。李龍文說,目前此案已由行政院交由經建會審查,通過後才會發包施工。
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From this news,this redevelopment will contract out this June. The transport minister is asking whole project must be finished within 2 years. To do this, closing terminal 1 is the best way. However, there are a lot of issues need to consider, for example does terminal 2 have enough capacity?

Acutally, this update is still going, but they just waste too much time.....

wannabeplanner
Feb 27, 2009, 10:53 PM
I was reading this months Airliner Magazine and there was a little blurb and a photo about Taoyuan Airport. This photo looks like they are doing some major digging in the parking lot outside of T2. The Caption says they are working on the foundation of Terminal 3 expected to be completed around 2020.. That doesn't sound right to me... Can somebody confirm? I am thinking maybe they are working on the airport MRT line?

ed21x
Feb 27, 2009, 11:40 PM
I was reading this months Airliner Magazine and there was a little blurb and a photo about Taoyuan Airport. This photo looks like they are doing some major digging in the parking lot outside of T2. The Caption says they are working on the foundation of Terminal 3 expected to be completed around 2020.. That doesn't sound right to me... Can somebody confirm? I am thinking maybe they are working on the airport MRT line?

I highly doubt that considering the current infrastructure of T1/T2 are nowhere close to max capacity. The TTY Access MRT is suppose to have a stop in both Terminal 1 and 2.

williamchung taiwan
Feb 28, 2009, 9:14 AM
I was reading this months Airliner Magazine and there was a little blurb and a photo about Taoyuan Airport. This photo looks like they are doing some major digging in the parking lot outside of T2. The Caption says they are working on the foundation of Terminal 3 expected to be completed around 2020.. That doesn't sound right to me... Can somebody confirm? I am thinking maybe they are working on the airport MRT line?
Does that picture just like this one ?
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taoyuan/Taoyuan%20MRT/MYDC2159-1.jpg

That should be MRT line, the MRT will go through underground of T1 and T2 which will be A12, A13. The A14 will be located on west of T3.


Rendering of A12
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taoyuan/Taoyuan%20MRT/a12.jpg

A13
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taoyuan/Taoyuan%20MRT/a13.jpg

A14a (It's not the rendering for A14, it's another station which will be next to transit hotel. So there is no rendering for A14 so far.)
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taoyuan/Taoyuan%20MRT/a14a.jpg

Coyett
Mar 1, 2009, 4:06 PM
The Caption says they are working on the foundation of Terminal 3 expected to be completed around 2020.. That doesn't sound right to me... Can somebody confirm? I am thinking maybe they are working on the airport MRT line?

They're working on both. The A14 station is in the basement of T3.

wannabeplanner
Mar 2, 2009, 11:28 PM
Yeah, that's the picture I saw in the magazine! Thanks for clearifying.. It makes sense for them to work on the MRT and the foundation of T3 at the sametime!

williamchung taiwan
Apr 23, 2009, 11:44 PM
from skyscrapers.tw
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taoyuan/Taoyuan%20MRT/1587.jpg

metroXpress
Apr 24, 2009, 1:45 AM
^ Nice pic. I would definately go there when T3 is finished

Razqal
Apr 24, 2009, 2:10 AM
i guess they're not going to build a whole new airport which i think is a better idea. :( i hope t3 is at least designed by a world renown foreign architct, e.g., santiago calatravas. but i dont think his style will match the other 2 terminals. that's why a whole new terminal designed by a foreign architect is a much better idea.

williamchung taiwan
Apr 24, 2009, 2:39 AM
Unfortunately, I have not heard any detail about T3 development.
I only know the budget is locked by our grand Legislative Yuan.:shrug:

ed21x
Apr 24, 2009, 4:48 AM
hoping for an entire new terminal is too ambitious a goal methinks. Here is to hoping that they bring T1 to world standards, and thus our combined airport will be fully adequate. Not pretty, but very convenient and efficient :)

metroXpress
Apr 24, 2009, 3:37 PM
If the T3 is built, I do hope that it is connected with MRTs again.

ezlogin
May 2, 2009, 11:09 AM
so this is how it looks behind all those barriers.

wannabeplanner
Jun 2, 2009, 5:16 PM
when does T1 redevelopment suppose to start? The last time I heard they are hoping for summer/fall of this year. Is that still the case?

Coyett
Jun 22, 2009, 10:00 AM
Norihiko Dan's website now lists the completion date for the T1 renovation as 2013.

metroXpress
Jun 25, 2009, 10:43 PM
^ that means it started already. I still remember the arriving lobby renovation years ago...now it looks great!

SpeedoPro
Jun 26, 2009, 7:57 PM
i believe the pic above is that of the airport mrt construction, not the t3.

Coyett
Jun 27, 2009, 5:56 AM
^ that means it started already. I still remember the arriving lobby renovation years ago...now it looks great!

No, it means he's listed the completion date as 2013. I wouldn't read too much into this as he's already changed the date twice .....2008.... 2010.

williamchung taiwan
Mar 6, 2010, 7:27 AM
by影少

Taoyuan MRT
This tunnel is under airtrip, so I think it is better post in this thread.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taoyuan/Taoyuan%20MRT/PIC_9131.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taoyuan/Taoyuan%20MRT/PIC_9125.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taoyuan/Taoyuan%20MRT/PIC_9118.jpg

williamchung taiwan
Jun 9, 2010, 5:36 AM
Plans begin for airport terminal
The CAA is seeking designs for the third terminal at the airport in Taoyuan from overseas architectural teams, the CAA chief said
7 June 2010
Taipei Times

The Ministry of Transportation and Communications (MOTC) said yesterday it will start planning the construction of a third terminal at Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport this year.

Minister of Transportation and Communications Mao Chi-kuo said in a briefing to President Ma Ying-jeou that the ministry aims to re-establish Taoyuan International Airport as a hub in Northeast Asia.

LOCOMOTIVE

"The cross-strait direct aviation policy has helped resume the growth of passenger flights at Taoyuan Airport," Mao said. "The next project is the Airport Zone project, which will spread the economic benefits from the airport to nearby areas. The third terminal will serve as the locomotive of the Airport Zone project."

Civil Aeronautics Administration Director-General Lee Lung-wen said the preliminary plan is to build an eco-friendly third terminal next to the second terminal, adding that the CAA is seeking designs from well-known architectural teams overseas.

Ma inspected the facilities at Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport yesterday morning. Along with Mao and Lee, Ma was also accompanied by Taoyuan County Commissioner John Wu and the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) candidate for Sinbei City Eric Chu. The Airport Zone project was proposed during Chu's term as Taoyuan County commissioner.

During his inspection tour, Ma examined the baggage carts and the restaurants at the airport, which have been criticized by some of the nation's celebrities. The airport should strive to bring in restaurants serving Taiwanese snacks that are normally available in Shihlin and *Liuho night markets, Ma said.

Lee said a total of 2,600 baggage carts should be in place by the end of the August, adding that there will soon be customer surveys on both the airport's restaurants and baggage carts.

Lee added there will also be a library available for passengers transiting at the airport. A third runway will be built to accommodate larger aircraft, such as the Airbus 380.

Ma also inspected the airport rail construction sites, which is scheduled to begin operation in October 2014.

The Bureau of High Speed Rail (BHSR), which is in charge of building the airport rail, is planning to offer express train services that will allow passengers from Taipei to arrive at the airport in 28 minutes.

INCENTIVE AND INCLINE

Ma, however, said the operation time should be reduced to 20 to 25 minutes if the bureau wants more people to stop driving to the airport and use the rail service instead.

"It [the system] takes such a long time to build and it moves so slowly, who will come and use it?" Ma said. "We should have the ambition to make the travel time shorter. If we could manage to make it into a 20 minute or 25 minute ride, this would be a greater incentive to use the service."

BHSR Director-General Chu Shu said that raising the speed might be a problem because a quarter of the railway section would have an incline of 3 percent or more.

Razqal
Jun 10, 2010, 3:09 AM
they should build a huge terminal 3 between the space of terminal 1 and 2 and knock those two terminals down afterwards. and they should make it solar powered if they want it to be eco-friendly.

williamchung taiwan
Nov 10, 2010, 1:46 AM
CAA orders new design for airport renovation

TAIPEI, Taiwan — The Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) has required the team responsible for the renovation of the Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport's Terminal 1 to come up with a new design after an expert panel found the original plan to be unsafe, Minister of Transportation and Communications Mao Chih-kuo (毛治國) said yesterday.

Inspections by the Taiwan Structure Engineering Association have found that the original plan to cut the pre-stressed concrete beams will jeopardize the safety of the construction process. The team led by Japanese architect Norihiko Dan will have to deliver the new plan by Friday, Nov. 12, or their contract will be canceled.

Norihiko Dan and his associates began the renovation project November 2009. In August 2010, the team pointed out that they found the pre-stressed concrete beams of the building to be worn out where they were preparing to cut them. The CAA refuted that and questioned the safety of the team's plan.

The Ministry of Transportation and Communications (MOTC) has formed a special taskforce and has held five meetings with the team to handle the issue, Mao said. The team had failed to comply with the CAA's request to provide details on the construction plan after the TSEA determined the original design to be faulty, he continued, adding that all the new ideas proposed by the team in the meetings were half-baked and unfeasible.

Mao dismissed Norihiko Dan's claims over the worn-out beams as nonsense and stressed that the renovation project could actually be simpler without cutting the beams.


Airport impasse to end Friday

REDESIGN WRANGLE:The CAA said the contract to remodel Terminal 1 at Taoyuan airport will be canceled if Norihiko Dan does not provide a safe and reliable design

By Shelley Shan / Staff reporter

The architecture team chosen to remodel Terminal 1 at Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport must submit a new design by Friday or it will lose the contract with the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA), Minister of Transportation and Communications Mao Chi-kuo (毛治國) said yesterday.

Last year, the CAA announced it would renovate the terminal, which has been in service since 1979, recruiting Japanese architect Norihiko Dan to redesign it.

Dan intended to create a new facade for the 31-year-old terminal by covering the building with a glass curtain, with the overall image resembling headwear worn by officials in ancient China.

The dispute began when Dan’s team planned to remove pre-stressed beams. After the team conducted an initial test, the CAA asked Dan to consider altering the design as removing the pre-stressed beams could weaken the terminal’s structure. The request enraged Dan, who held a press conference and accused the CAA of disrespecting him as a professional architect.

In response, the CAA entrusted the Chinese Society of Structural Engineering (CSSE) with the task of evaluating the safety of Dan’s design.

“We have invited experts on structural safety and have had five meetings with him [Dan],” Mao told Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT) Legislator Chu Fong-chi (朱鳳芝).

“We listened to [Dan] patiently. He would come up with new ideas every time we met. However, the ideas lacked details for their execution. Nor did he have plans to address the structural safety concerns. All of them were unfeasible,” Mao said.

Mao said the CAA was scheduled to meet with the team on Friday, adding that the Ministry of Transportation and Communications would cancel the contract if Dan’s team failed to provide a safe and viable design.

In a statement last night, Dan said the CAA’s request to not remove the pre-stressed beams contradicted with its expectations that the project could be completed by August next year.

“Do you understand that we would have to redo the structural and fire protection safety review from the top down without removing the pre-stressed beams, making it absolutely impossible to finish by the end of August next year?” Dan asked.

He also accused the CSSE of already having decided on a conclusion when evaluating the safety of the design.

Fan Hsiao-lun (范孝倫), chief of the CAA’s Aerodrome Engineering division, said the goal of completing renovations by August next year remained unchanged.

“He [Dan] has his questions, we also have our doubts,” Fan said. “We asked a third party [the CSSE] to help us resolve the technical questions and he then said that we had a preset conclusion. Does that mean we can listen to no one but him?”

Fan said that some of the experts recruited to assess the project had previous experience evaluating the structure of the Taipei 101 skyscraper.

To say that Taiwan does not have structural safety experts is unacceptable, he said.

While Dan claimed the construction method he chose has been used in Japan and has proven to be safe, Fan said that research showed the method was only used in bridge construction.

There was no documentation that the method could be safely applied to renovate a building, he said.

Fan said that altering the design did not mean the CAA could not finish the project on time, adding that it would abide by the terms stated in the contract.

williamchung taiwan
Apr 1, 2011, 2:02 PM
http://www.taoyuan-airport.com/UserFiles/close1.jpg

http://www.taoyuan-airport.com/UserFiles/close2.jpg

http://www.taoyuan-airport.com/UserFiles/close3.jpg

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williamchung taiwan
Apr 5, 2011, 8:15 AM
Taoyuan Airport wins international prize through attentive service
2011/04/01 19:36:50





Taipei, April 1 (CNA) Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport beat 240 airports in 100 countries to win top place for Best Airport Security Processing, airport authorities said Friday.

The country's main gateway climbed two notches in Skytrax's World Airport Reports 2010 with what the airport official described as "attentive services."

"We treat passengers with care instead of suspicion, " said Yang Chyi-lin, deputy director of the Aviation Police Office.

Yang cited its lost and found policy as one example of his staff's approach to service. He said passengers lose about 300 items at security checkpoints each month. But instead of waiting for the passenger to come back and claim the item, security officers will retrieve video footage of the checkpoint processing, go to the departure counter and identify the person who lost the item, and find that person before he or she boards the plane.

"Our people have become so familiar with the procedure that they can almost locate the person within a few minutes without fail, " he said.

After the approach was adopted in 2009, the number of lost items dropped by more than half, according to Yang.

The World Airport Awards are given out based on the results from 11.38 million survey questionnaires completed by travelers from over 100 countries.

Japan's Nagoya Airport and South Korea's Incheon International Airport were ranked second and third, respectively, in the security

williamchung taiwan
Apr 19, 2011, 1:50 PM
桃機將建第三航廈 3千億打造東亞樞紐
2011-04-19 新聞速報 台灣醒報/蕭介雲
行政院今天公佈,未來桃園機場將興建第三航廈與第三條跑道,預估在2030年客運量目標為5890萬人次、貨運量為448萬噸、起降架次為46.7萬架次,這項計畫將投資近3000億元。國民黨立委羅淑蕾對此強調,在第三航廈發包前,第一和第二航廈的問題一定要先管理好,並且精準計算旅客運量。



交通部民航局表示,桃園國際機場未來功能定位,將以發展東亞樞紐機場為目標,提供優質便捷的客貨流通環境,以協助我國?業發展,並以促進非航空事業成長為2項推動主軸。

交通部預估,桃機到2030年運量發展目標,客運量為5890萬人次,未來機場園區將由目前1249公頃擴充至1994公頃,並規劃興建可獨立起降的第三跑道、客貨運設施、航機維修區以及擴大自由貿易港區等。

民航局強調,行政院是在11日核定「桃園國際機場園區綱要計畫」,未來將依據「建設發展」與「用地取得」等面向,分別推動下階段的「園區實施計畫」與「園區特定區計畫」擬定作業,逐步落實強化機場園區核心功能,進而帶動周邊土地及產業開發,促使桃園航空城發展成功。

列席桃機體檢專案小組的羅淑蕾指出,第一、第二航廈的管理都「離離落落」,既然投入龐大的預算,並要在2014年發包,就必須先行改善現有的問題,不能重蹈覆轍,同時也要準確計算運量,以避免產生虧損。她表示,未來會在立法院質詢時,持續關注此一議題。

目前即將辦理桃園機場北面745公頃土地區段徵收,估計經費是600億元,擬由民航作業基金支出,並希望今年底前辦理國際競圖,預計在2014年發包動工,工期時間約4年半左右。

Taoyun International airport park is approved by central government. Government will start the plan based on Taoyuan International Airport Park.

williamchung taiwan
Apr 21, 2011, 9:39 PM
Taiwan Taoyuan Airport expansion to cost NT$300 billion: officials
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Taipei, April 19 (CNA) The Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) said Tuesday that it will cost NT$300 billion (US$10.4 billion) to refurbish and expand Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport, the country's main gateway.

After the Executive Yuan approved the Conceptual Plan for Airport Park on April 11, the CAA said the airport complex will be expanded from 1,249 hectares to 1,994 hectares.

The project includes the construction of a third terminal by 2018 and another runway by 2021. These two aspects of the project will account for most of the expansion and are integral to the plan to develop the airport as a regional hub, the CAA said.

In addition, the Free Trade Zone inside the airport will be expanded from 45 hectares to 200 hectares, it said.

The construction of the new runway will cost an estimated NT$10 billion, while the new terminal and related facilities such as a ground transport center will cost around NT$67 billion, the CAA said.

Upon completion of the project, the airport will be able to accommodate 58.9 million passengers and 4.48 million tons of cargo volume per year by 2030.

The CAA said it will immediately start the land expropriation process, which will cost NT$60 billion.

(By Wang Shu-fen and Lee Hsin-Yin) enditem /pc

williamchung taiwan
May 20, 2011, 1:31 PM
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Coyett
Aug 23, 2011, 5:01 PM
Terminal renovation images:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/noitpac/6034017309/sizes/l/in/photostream/

williamchung taiwan
Aug 24, 2011, 7:14 AM
I think company also need to make renovation for departure lounge facade. The facade is dirty and old.

Coyett
Aug 27, 2011, 10:46 AM
Agreed! The interior and exterior of the gates also needs to be modernized. A Berlin-inspired renovation would go along way to improving the airport's image. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5382110&postcount=15

edluva
Sep 4, 2011, 10:38 AM
man, taiwan is so ugly. i'm saying this as a taiwanese american with the best intentions

khojiho
Sep 5, 2011, 3:02 AM
screw you. I'm saying this as a Taiwanese American with the best intentions

ed21x
Sep 5, 2011, 8:03 AM
man, taiwan is so ugly. i'm saying this as a taiwanese american with the best intentions

as a taiwanese american, you should be aware of american airports. shouldn't taoyuan airport terminal 2 look like a godsend compared to anything in the United States?

kalifese
Sep 5, 2011, 10:26 AM
man, taiwan is so ugly. i'm saying this as a taiwanese american with the best intentions

you dont look very taiwanese american. man you must've gotten major double-eyelid surgery!!! :haha: or are you mixed race??

williamchung taiwan
Sep 5, 2011, 2:21 PM
kalifese, I get one worse than you. you know....:slob:

R@ptor
Sep 7, 2011, 4:40 PM
man, taiwan is so ugly. i'm saying this as a taiwanese american with the best intentions

Seriously dude, you're getting annoying. Is there a single thread in the Taiwan forum where you haven't stated the exact same crap?

Anyway, it's good to finally see Terminal1 getting a major overhaul - it was about time.

kalifese
Sep 11, 2011, 9:17 AM
kalifese, I get one worse than you. you know....:slob:

get one what worse than me?

kalifese
Sep 11, 2011, 9:18 AM
Seriously dude, you're getting annoying. Is there a single thread in the Taiwan forum where you haven't stated the exact same crap?

Anyway, it's good to finally see Terminal1 getting a major overhaul - it was about time.


yes, she is like that even in non-taiwan forum. like in the los angeles forum. read people's comments about her and you'll see...:haha:

kalifese
Sep 11, 2011, 10:54 AM
here's a short video of the terminal construction. they put those roof shingle things on already. i think they're talking about how one of the workers almost slipped on the roof.

http://beta.ctv.com.tw/uploadfiles/img_s/28495.jpg

http://beta.ctv.com.tw/insidepage_news.asp?cid=1&cateid=3&newsid=28495

williamchung taiwan
Sep 11, 2011, 12:06 PM
get one what worse than me?

edluva:banana:

williamchung taiwan
Sep 11, 2011, 12:16 PM
here's a short video of the terminal construction. they put those roof shingle things on already. i think they're talking about how one of the workers almost slipped on the roof.

http://beta.ctv.com.tw/uploadfiles/img_s/28495.jpg

http://beta.ctv.com.tw/insidepage_news.asp?cid=1&cateid=3&newsid=28495

It is actually talking about poor safety in construction site, wrong safety procedure. Workers don't have chain or safety rope to hold themselves, prevent falling down when they are building the roof.

kalifese
Sep 11, 2011, 9:43 PM
edluva:banana:


nooooo, the comparison's not even close. she's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than me!! :banana:

kalifese
Sep 11, 2011, 9:45 PM
It is actually talking about poor safety in construction site, wrong safety procedure. Workers don't have chain or safety rope to hold themselves, prevent falling down when they are building the roof.

that's stupid to be working on a steep slippery roof like that especially in taipei's moist humid rainy climate without safety ropes and harnesses!! guess they dont mind falling.


another vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGFhVMSFjmM

williamchung taiwan
Sep 17, 2011, 3:00 AM
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1473/6002k.jpg
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9189/6003.jpg

Terminal 1 Decoration

ed21x
Sep 17, 2011, 5:39 AM
beautiful! finally a fitting airport for taiwan :)

kalifese
Sep 17, 2011, 2:32 PM
i guess anything's better than the old terminal.

kalifese
Oct 2, 2011, 11:22 PM
http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1723593

New airport terminal project to attract international bids: chairman

Taipei, Oct. 2 (CNA) Many international companies are showing interest in a project to build a third terminal at Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport (TIA), a rare large airport construction plan, an airport executive said Sunday. The new project, which is estimated to cost NT$60 billion (US$1.96 billion), will open bidding for a chief consultant at the end of the year, said Yeh Kuang-shih, chairman of the TIA Corp. The project director will be in charge of various aspects of the project, including general planning, an environmental impact assessment (EIA), basic design and supervision of construction, Yeh said. The new terminal is expected to be able to handle 43 million passengers when service begins in 2018, compared with the 30 million people the two existing terminals can serve. The third terminal will be built to the west of Terminal Two, with facilities for entertainment, shopping, conferences and even accommodation, the official added. The decision to build an extra terminal is based on an assessment by the Ministry of Transportation and Communications, which said the two existing terminals will not be enough for an estimated passenger volume of 45 million by 2020. Three terminals will be sufficient to serve the estimated 58 million passengers by 2030.


they better hire a great foreign architectural firm to design this new terminal. all i'm saying. :rolleyes:

williamchung taiwan
Oct 3, 2011, 11:39 AM
Who will be leader of consultation team?

williamchung taiwan
Oct 29, 2011, 6:31 AM
http://www.taoyuan-airport.com/chinese/Publish.jsp?cnid=100538&pid=1242

第三航站區委託總顧問技術服務資訊徵求(RFI)說明會 新聞稿發布日期:2011-10-28 (企劃暨行銷處)桃園國際機場公司辦理第三航站區委託總顧問技術服務
資訊徵求(RFI)說明會 新聞稿
http://www.taoyuan-airport.com/english/Publish.jsp?cnid=1296&pid=1240

Information for T3 RFI Seminar2011-10-27 (Business Planning & Marketing Department)Information for T3 RFI Seminar

Thank you for attending Taoyuan International Airport T3 RFI Seminar. One of the most important purposes of the seminar is to collect professional comments and suggestions from potential tender in order to implement highly efficient development for Terminal 3 Area.

We would appreciate your comments and suggestions for our project. All information and suggestion about the implementation for T3 area development and GC services gathered will be considered while we prepare the tender document of this project.



How to feedback your comments:
Please download and fill in the form of T3 RFI feedback.doc on behalf of your company or organization. We appreciate you reply to T3@mail.taoyuan-airport.com and ting.tac@gmail.com before Friday, Nov.4 2011. Thank you.



Seminar materials to download:

1. T3 RFI Seminar Presentation

2. Appendix-20111027 GC Scope

3. Feedback Form



2011 年10 月27 日桃園國際機場公司舉辦第三航站區委託總顧問技術服務資訊徵求(Request for Information)說明會。機場公司公開邀集包括:工程顧問、建築顧問及航站建設相關業者與會,說明會內容除對業者說明機場園區未來發展規劃、第三航站區專案之階段性推動架構、及總顧問之招標方式外,並分別以現場Q/A 及會後書面問卷方式,徵詢專業意見,以確保本公司後續總顧問技術服務招標準備更為完善。本次說明會分為上、下午2 場次,共有國內外90 家以上企業、約180 名代表與會,其中除了23 家國內廠商外,國際廠商有67 家,涵蓋美國、加拿大、英國、法國、荷蘭、西班牙、德國、丹麥、日本、韓國、新加坡、香港及印度等13 國家及地區。



桃園國際機場公司總經理林鵬良在致詞時表示,第1 次RFI 研討會由民航局主辦,距本次研討會正好一整年。一年來有改變與不變,有挑戰與機會。改變的是:參與公司由34 家增為90 家,意味著競爭將更為激烈,同時也讓桃園機場有更多機會吸取業者的專業知識與經驗。本機場第一航廈於1979 年落成,第二航廈在2000 年建成,此後就沒有重大建設專案,但旅客量持續成長,去年(2010)已突破2,500 萬人次,創下歷史紀錄,這就是我們的挑戰來源;因此我們必須廣納專業的建議來建第三航廈,以提供旅客更好的服務。而桃園機場的機會也在於此:第三航廈一旦建造完成,將是本機場能否成為東亞地區轉運樞紐的重要契機。



就機場的發展而言,這一年間有許多力求進步的變化,那就是持續的學習及傾聽,包括:拜訪標竿機場CEO、參加國際會議、及與相關業者進行雙邊會議,這些學習及傾聽讓我們吸取了許多專業的經驗與建議,並互相交換寶貴的意見,成果十分豐碩。



另就計畫的進度而言,這一年來的變化在於,2009 年9 月由交通部主導、委託野村總合研究所公司籌劃的機場園區發展綱要計畫,已於 2011 年4 月經行政院核定,成為國家重大計畫,其中,尤以第三航廈的建造最為重要。



在這一年之中不變的是我們建設第三航廈的決心,桃園機場的確落後於先進的標竿機場,從負面的角度來看的確如此。但若從正面角度思考,現在才開始規劃新的機場航廈時機是剛好的。傳統機場設計的思維在於服務個別航空公司,現今的設計思維則是,機場所服務的不是個別航空公司,而是航空公司聯盟,同一聯盟希望將航空公司夥伴集中在一個航廈內運作,方便旅客轉機,機場才能吸引更多旅客。這種思維模式,正好使得現在成為建造航廈的最好機會。



此次說明會的內容包括未來機場公司將依據綱要計畫及實施計畫逐步推動第三航廈建設,架構設計為三階段:規劃階段、設計階段及施工階段。項目包含WC 滑行道遷建與雙線化工程,以及第三航廈主廊廳、停機坪、旅客運輸系統、地面運輸中心、複合式商業設施等建設項目,預定於2018 年中完工啟用。



有關時程安排,將待機場園區實施計畫核定後,預計在2012 年1 月初啟動第三航站區委託總顧問技術服務招標程序。



新聞聯絡人:企劃暨行銷處 丁源宏03-3982066

williamchung taiwan
Oct 29, 2011, 6:32 AM
http://www.taoyuan-airport.com/UserFiles/File/news/201110/20111027_RFI.pdf

http://www.taoyuan-airport.com/UserFiles/File/news/201110/Appendix-20111027_GC%20scope.pdf

williamchung taiwan
Nov 2, 2011, 4:39 AM
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2011/11/02/2003517232

Boeing executive expects growing demand in Asia
By Amy Su / Staff Reporter

Boeing Co is forecasting strong long-term growth for the airline sector, with growing momentum in Asia outpacing other regions as the number of flights increases, a company executive said yesterday.

“This is true not only for the cross-strait market, but also the ASEAN region as a whole,” Boeing Commercial Airplanes vice president of marketing Randy Tinseth told a press conference in Taipei.

The aircraft maker said air travel in Asia through 2030 is projected to grow by 6.6 percent annually, with air cargo growing at an annual rate of just over 6 percent, on the back of average regional GDP growth of 4.4 percent.

That would translate into demand for an additional 2,100 airplanes to meet the growth and another 650 airplanes to replace aging fleets, resulting in activity valued at US$410 billion in total, the company said.

The recent uncertainties in the global economy and higher-than-expected fuel prices have made this year more challenging than expected, but Tinseth said he was confident that strong growth would continue in the air travel sector in the long run.

Boeing estimates that the global airline sector will order an additional 33,500 aircraft over the next 20 years, translating into purchases valued at US$4 trillion.

For Taiwan’s aviation sector, growth in the cross-strait market is playing a key role, he said, adding that Taipei is already positioned as one of the few major hubs to facilitate air travel to cities such as Beijing and Shanghai.

“Scheduled air services to China have been an important source of new traffic and revenue for Taiwanese airlines,” Tinseth said. “More than 400 scheduled passenger flights per week fly from Taiwan to China, where services previously had been restricted to chartered flights.”

In addition, the airplane maker said that single-aisle aircraft would be best suited to serve routes across the Taiwan Strait and within Asia.

“Of the 2,750 additional airplanes that Asia would need over the next two decades, 1,720 airplanes, or 62 percent, will be single-aisle airplanes,” Tinseth added.

kalifese
Dec 4, 2011, 2:57 AM
renovated bus station area:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6050/6334386424_b45b481855_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6049/6334386532_3d2463a3b1_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6234/6333632143_1670b76397_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6040/6333632417_ae4dd7e646_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6217/6334386160_ae2e401618_z.jpg

Ganplosive
Dec 14, 2011, 4:46 AM
I actually saw the before and after bus areas (in September, and October for 10-10), I gotta say it's done fairly well, except that I think capacity will be an issue. There really weren't enough seats, plus they were facing the other way it was hard to tell when the buses arrived so a lot of people had to stand outside to wait.



On my way leaving Taiwan, one of the elevators in Terminal 1 actually caught one of the trolley's going UP. The cart then flipped over, got caught, and everyone behind the elevator just got crushed and piled up at the end of the top, until finally the escalator emergency stopped. luckily I was right around the corner and was able to help start removing carts, luggages and people out. It caught a group of Vietnamese tourists, mostly in their 60's. Something like this should NEVER happen again at a world class airport.

williamchung taiwan
Dec 23, 2011, 10:34 AM
Skytrax last three reviews.

http://www.airlinequality.com/Airports/Airport_forum/tpe.htm
TAIPEI TAOYUAN AIRPORT customer review : 10 December 2011 by Y Fung (USA)
Rating : 8/10

Recommended

Felt clean and fresh in Terminal 2. Pleasant staff member greeting everyone with a warm smile and gave us map/information we needed. Went through all the check points without any problem. The only thing to complain about is the airport itself, nowhere close to what I expected from an international airport, not many places to shop or eat, maybe because it is being remodelled - it really seems to lack facilities.


Taipei Taoyuan Airport customer review : 12 October 2011 by Y Zhan (Taiwan)
Rating : 8/10

I use Taoyuan Terminal 2 almost every month and the security and immigration officers here are courteous and helpful, even when there are crowds and queues. There is plenty of airside shopping, though prices for souvenirs and edible gifts are higher than in downtown Taipei stores. Wifi speeds are better airside than at the landside. Airside toilets are clean but landside toilets are sometimes dirty.


Taipei Taoyuan Airport customer review : 11 September 2011 by W Osborne (USA)
Rating : 9/10

LAX to TPE. When we got off our plane we made our way to immigration where there was virtually no wait. When I got to the officer she stared straight at me and checked my passport and gave it back without a word. After that we proceeded to baggage claim and again got through quickly. It's nice that they have shuttle service to the high speed rail station. However, if you have a long layover there then there is virtually nothing to do. One tiny food court and a small exhibit for the national palace museum. If you're staying overnight, I would recommend spending 40 mins and staying overnight in downtown Taipei.



Compare much earlier comment, I can see it get improvements.

kalifese
Dec 24, 2011, 11:59 AM
how come it didnt get any stars? not even 1!!

williamchung taiwan
Apr 18, 2012, 12:07 AM
Taipei Taoyuan International Airport pax up 17% for Mar-2012


© CAPA
Taiwan's Taipei Taoyuan International Airport passenger numbers up 17% - traffic highlights for Mar-2012:

Passenger numbers: 2.3 million, +16.6%;
Cargo volume: 143,255 tonnes, -6.6%;
Aircraft movements: 14,783, +10.4%.

williamchung taiwan
Apr 18, 2012, 12:12 AM
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2012/03/23/2003528499

Taoyuan airport plans to upgrade security system
PLUGGING THOSE HOLES:The airport is inviting bids by contractors to install an upgraded electronic surveillance system, as the current system is afflicted by blind spots
By Shelley Shan / Staff reporter

Taoyuan International Airport Corp (TIAC) said yesterday it would soon install an electronic system on the peripheral walls of the nation’s largest airport, allowing the company to track anyone who trespasses in the airport’s restricted zones.

The company decided to beef up security at Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport following an incident in July last year, when a woman was able to sneak into the airport’s restricted area, drive a ladder truck used by the ground crew onto the taxiway and eventually board a China Airlines aircraft. She was found sleeping in the crew lounge.

Seven TIAC officials were penalized for the incident.

TIAC said the airport is equipped with a surveillance system, but there remain some blind spots. The current system is also unable to immediately report whenever a break-in occurs, it added. The new electronic system will detect intruders, identify the point of infiltration and follow the target’s movement, so that the company’s staff can quickly apprehend the trespasser, the company said.

According to TIAC, the new electronic system is estimated to cost NT$180 million (US$6.1 million). The company said it plans to allow contractors to bid for the project by the end of this month, adding that installation work could begin in May.

The new electronic system is expected to be operational by November, the company said.

williamchung taiwan
Apr 27, 2012, 2:30 AM
World Routes: Taipei Taoyuan International Airport Status Overview
by JL
During the World Routes event earlier this month, the author for this site had the opportunity to sat down with delegates from Taipei Taoyuan International Airport and had a discussion regarding the current status and the future plan of the airport.

The following are selected excerpts from the interview. Note the original interview was conducted in Chinese. Below is the translation to English. There is no alteration to its main message the airport trying to spread out, despite the translation to English may slightly different. (以下是個人在今年10月參與柏林舉行的World Routes大會時, 向台北桃園國際機場代表做關於機場現在和未來發展所做的訪問的英文版. 中文原文請參閱台灣的玉山航空網站. 雖然翻譯成英文版時語意有少許變更, 但基本原意並未做任何修改.)


What has changed since Taipei Taoyuan International Airport became a corporation management structure in late-2010?
Taoyuan International Airport (TIA) became a corporation in Nov 2011. Since the change we are able to discuss any issues regarding the airport directly with The Ministry of Transportation and Communications (MOTC), by-passing Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA). In general, CAA conducts the decision and plannings for the airport, and acts as “The Middleman” between as and MOTC. However, sometimes our ideas are unheard by the MOTC because the CAA may disapprove it.

Please explain the current status and future development of the airport.
Currently TIA is undergoing renovation for both passenger terminals as well as runways.

We are currently renovating Terminal 1, which the project is expected to complete by late-2011/early-2012. Upon completion for Terminal 1, over annual capacity will raise from 15 million to 17 million. There will be minor renovation for Terminal 2, which was opened in 2000s. Project for runway overhaul was launched in September 2011, and we expect the overhaul and upgrades will complete by 2012.

Regarding future development, as part as Taiwan Government’s “Taoyuan Aero Park Project”, this includes the new Terminal 3 and expanded apron/tarmac. For Terminal 3, we are scheduled to issue Request for Proposal (RFP) around 27OCT11, inviting bidders for the terminal building design of Terminal 3. Our current goal for Terminal 3 is construction to be completed by late-2018/early-2019, and be fully operational by 2019. Upon completion of Terminal 3, TIA will have the ability to handle 43 million passengers per year. Our projected annual capacity is 45.4 million by 2020, 58.9 million by 2030. The area of Terminal 3 exceeds combined T1 and T2.

Our tentative schedules for Terminal 3 design and long-term development includes:
*Phase 1
Planning for Third Runway and new Satellite Terminal, which are located North of the current location of TIA. However the land expropriation has not begun, which we are expecting 5-year time frame for this particular project.

Between 2011 and 2015, we will be moving current WC taxiway
Between 2016 and 2020, we plan to start the construction of aprons/tarmac, Terminal 3 concourses and additional Cargo Bay

The Aviation Museum, located at the current location for planned Terminal 3, is scheduled to be demolished by 2012. (When being asked about the future of the museum, TIA responded there are several proposals being studied, including possibility of integrating into Terminal 3 design)

*Phase 2
Developing new cargo terminals, aprons and MRO areas between 2017 and 2020
Development of the new Satellite Concourse between 2019 and 2030
Construction of the 3rd Runway as well as new taxiway is planned between 2026 and 2030

*Phase 3
Upon completion of phase 2, T1 re-development and its surrounding area will begin, including the reallocation of cargo terminal area
New “EC” Taxiway is also to be built after phase 2 completion

In Taiwan, there has been reports and rumors that Terminal 1 may be demolished in the future. What is the actual plan for T1?
Once Terminal 3 enters operation, we are included to keep existing Terminal 1. This would make sense as we are currently investing in the renovation for long-term use/operation. We do have several proposals, which may turn Terminal 1 into a low-cost terminal, but we don’t have any concrete decisions yet.

A Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) link is currently under construction which will link the airport with Downtown Taipei. There has been criticism on the route planning, in particular with multiple-stops between the airport and Taipei
The route planning was done by previous policy makers so we don’t have much say about it, especially the construction project is underway, and expected to enter operation by 2014. However, we are currently planning 1-stop service between the airport and Downtown Taipei, which takes only 28 minutes.

Is the MRT 24-hour operational?
Our future target is 24-hour operational, but since we don’t have many red-eye flights to/from TIA, we have no such plan for the future.

In Taiwan, TIA received waves of negative news report and criticisms by the media. What is TIA’s view on this
Taiwanese media are known for sensationalizing news report, so all kinds of criticism by news media, commentators, and internet users (in Taiwan) are within our expectations. We do acknowledge some scandals and major issues regarding TIA, to be honest, they are not new, because were no decisive action in the past to solve (the issues) and investigate (the scandals). Now that we are taking actions against these, it is quite easy for them to be reported within short time frame.

In the past 10 years (up to 2008/09), TIA saw decline in annual passenger numbers. What difference will it make after TIA become a corporation management?
In the past 10 years the Government did not put enough attention in the aviation sector. This sector didn’t receive enough resource to sustain growth.

Also there wasn’t much relationship between the airport and airlines. Voices from the airlines were mostly unheard, and they weren’t consulted when it comes to policy making/changes by the airport authority. As TIA became a corporate management, we begin to maintain mutual relationship. We want airline’s input for the new terminal and future planning, and we will let them know what we plan to do as well.

What are the priorities of future route development?
Our current main priority is focus on traffic to China, and we are confident that TIA has the potential to replace Hong Kong as the major transfer hub to China. Although current cap for weekly flights between Taiwan and China is 500 weekly round-trips, but we are hopeful that this will increase. (Note based on Dec 2011 schedule as of 24OCT11, there are 787 weekly flights between Hong Kong and China, 348 between TIA and China. There are 36 routes out of TIA).

Besides China, we are also looking at new service to Europe and Middle East, including service resumptions

Taiwanese Aviation Enthusiasts are hoping the return of foreign carriers that abandoned Taiwan in the last decade, as well as new carriers serving Taiwan. However, based on those that left Taiwan market towards the end of 1990s, they claim operational costs at Taiwan is too high.
Based on our knowledge, high operational cost at that time includes setting up a separate company for Taiwan operation. Average air fares paid were also a major issue to them.

The Government in the past decade did not put enough resources in the aviation sector, which there were not enough effort made to spread our names out. In mid-2000s we changed our name from “Taipei Chiang Kai-Shek International Airport” to “Taipei Taoyuan International Airport”. This name change created confusions that some high profile carriers thought we’re different airport, not the same airport. Overall political instability was also a reason contributed to lack of interest in Taiwan market.

The reason why we are at World Routes is to promote ourselves, spread the awareness of our brand and infrastructure upgrades. Through the meetings with airline delegates, we hope that airlines will re-discover and have better understanding of TIA. With Taiwan’s geographic location and brand new infrastructure and resources being invested for the future, we hope the carriers that left Taiwan market in the past will make a return; existing carriers adding new flights/routes; new carriers starting new service to TIA.

Sung Shan Airport in Downtown Taipei re-opened scheduled International traffic in the 4th Quarter of 2010. How has this affected TIA and what is the future prospect?
In short-term we did recorded decline in terms of passenger numbers after Sung Shan reopens to International traffic. We have lost nearly 50% of flights to Tokyo as carriers moved from TIA to Sung Shan. Additional impact is expected once traffic from Sung Shan to Seoul Gimpo is launched, as well as additional flights to China.

However in the long-term, we believe we will regain the advantage, in particular with the operation of MRT. For Sung Shan Airport, their ability to expand is limited. Once they reached their capacity limit, airlines will be forced to move their operation back to us because we have the room to grow. 1-stop MRT service between Downtown Taipei and TIA is only 28 minutes, which is roughly the same to Sung Shan Airport from most part of Taipei City (as well as neighboring New Taipei City)

What is TIA’s view on the on-going debate on the existence of Sung Shan Airport
From our views, we hope Sung Shan Airport can be demolished. However we don’t have the rights to decide nor have a say about it.

What is TIA’s view on local Taiwanese Airports asking for International flights?
We understands everyone hopes for convenience for air travel, thus politicians trying to gain votes will always ask the status of their local airport upgrade to International. For the next 2-3 years, having flights to China (including International) out of other cities in Taiwan is a temporary relief for us as we are upgrading our infrastructures.

Taiwan’s Presidential Election (Jan 2012) is happening in less than 3 months. If the current opposition party DPP returns to power, subsequently leads to relation change between Taiwan and China, is TIA expecting any worse case scenario such as possibility of halting traffic between the two sides?
We haven’t thought about this to be honest. Again we don’t really have a say on the policy and the decision making. We think halting entire traffic is impossible, thus we don’t think it is likely to happen. We are likely incline to think that slow-down on the growth is likely if the worst happens.

Thank you for taking the time for the interview.

The (original) Chinese version has been posted on the Taiwanese Aviation Message Board “Jade Air”. Link can be found here

williamchung taiwan
May 7, 2012, 3:26 AM
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2012/05/06/2003532131

Bird strikes posing increased risk to air flight safety
GOING TO THE BIRDS:Construction work at Taoyuan airport and a pond at a nearby military airport provide a quality habitat for birds to breed
Staff writer, with CNA

More than 150 bird strikes — collisions between birds and airplanes — at civilian or military airports were recorded last year, and the number of cases involving birds of prey has increased, an aviation safety group said yesterday.

Statistics compiled by the Flight Safety Foundation--Taiwan show that there were 159 bird strikes last year, 18 incidents more than in 2010, and the highest number in four years, during which period more than 100 cases were reported annually.

A total of 28 of the 159 bird strikes caused damage to the planes, the foundation said.

Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport recorded the highest number of bird strikes each year, with 64 incidents last year, the foundation said.

The number of cases involving birds of prey is increasing, the foundation said, adding that airport authorities in Taoyuan have reported planes being hit by nighthawks, ospreys, serpent eagles and Asian crested goshawks, for a number of years.

Taoyuan airport is close to a military airport that has a pond within its area, the foundation said, adding that the pond and construction work at Taoyuan airport provided a perfect habitat for birds to breed.

Problems occur at night when the birds are attracted by the bright lights of the neighboring international airport.

Taichung Airport is near farmland and also attracts a lot of birds, the foundation said.

Over the past two years, the black-winged kite has become a potential threat to air traffic at the airport.

Taipei International Airport in the city’s Songshan District (松山) is a small airport and is not as ideal as other airports in terms of bird habitat, but migrant doves have become a worry for planes’ safety. The foundation attributed the growing number of bird strikes to over---development, which has resulted in the destruction and disappearance of birds’ natural habitats.

metroXpress
May 16, 2012, 1:45 AM
The one stop MRT service to Taipei is appealing to travellers - I wonder how much they will charge for this long distance ride. Most people rely on coach service and bus at the moment.

williamchung taiwan
May 21, 2012, 10:01 PM
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edluva
May 22, 2012, 9:20 AM
starting to look nice. too bad terminal 2 can't be wrecked and rebuilt. it is, architecturally speaking, a temple to taiwanese vanity. hundreds of acres of wall-to-wall polished granite lined by polished chrome baseboards. what a tremendous waste of money. in comparison terminal 2 is a much needed improvement.

williamchung taiwan
May 22, 2012, 10:26 AM
I am not satisfied for what government did in communication with design team, without proper informing and communication for changing design. They bring this bad habit to an architect who has great international status which just show the social status of architecture is so poor in Taiwan. Much more poorer than western communities. Architects are supposed that they cannot refuse what client or engineer say about design.

And this renovation is only starting point for entire airport renewal. The government will spend another 200-300 billion dollars to expand airport, including new runway, new terminal, commercial buildings...etc.

edluva
May 22, 2012, 6:46 PM
who was the architect for terminal 2? the apparent sway of the government over design matters long after bidding is complete suggests the corrupt way of doing business continues and taiwan's still has a long way to go until it catches up to the other asian tigers, much less the west, in terms of transparency.

taiwan is wealthy by virtue of cheap and exploitative labor (contract manufacturing). its economy may have a relatively high per capita gdp, but still it is not a knowledge-based economy in which values brand equity and marketing the way south korea's is, and taiwan's economy is still run by unenlightened individuals. one can easily see this in the amateurish way business is conducted there. arbitrary regard for contracts, disregard for legal process, and cronyism are the norm there, as evinced by how this airport remodel was conducted.

williamchung taiwan
May 22, 2012, 11:40 PM
It is normal for designers to find that client take over your design with his/her reason or interest in this world, for example recent controversy of 1 World Trade Centre. Taiwan is even worse as it is engineering (produce and manufacture) countries. I can see some discussion about this terminal 1 renovation controversy. Don’t be surprise some statement state that architects should know this issue, they should know what is happen to building structure. Yes, they blame architects first.
The controversy come from the beams head over the wall in the photo. These beams are part of ceiling structure of ground floor. They are pretressed beam which metal frame inside each beam has anchor connects to two ends with columns or pillars and use tension strength to support beams, keep it not falling. The issue is there is structural risk that it might be falling down. These beams have issue with construction and maintenance which cause building decay. If they cut these canopies (which part of these beams in one side), which may cause these beams lose their strength by anchor lose its connection to pillars.
The issue raise when government authority changed the design detail without informed design team leaded by Norihiko Dan while they were conducting structure testing for cutting these canopies. It was agreed by authority in that time.


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The way what South Korea build their giant companies is national economy that government monitor and fully support large companies by giving subsidy for all aspects of manufacture and political benefits for particular giant companies. It helps big companies build up their own monopoly power in both domestic and international. So we can see giant companies like Samsung and LG…etc. More important thing is it is easier to develop brand power under this type of economy. Taiwan cannot do the same thing with its circumstance and political and social atmosphere. I cannot see same thing happen in Taiwan.

However, to be honest, both Taiwan and South Korea have more important thing to cover, both countries have ridiculous low birth rate. No matter how well this economy is now, if both countries cannot solve this problem, both countries are going to doom in the future. People should be looking at these things. Taiwan government is changing education system for 2nd times in these ten years. Labours are fighting to changing payment and working condition and law makers start to discuss monitoring labour and working regulation. These two changing polices in some sense will change the change how Taiwanese do their business and determine the way Taiwan will go. These changing may also give a line of light for improve architecture status in Taiwan.

williamchung taiwan
May 23, 2012, 4:43 AM
http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_Detail.aspx?Type=aLIV&ID=201205210030

Taoyuan airport unveils partial refurbishment
2012/05/21 19:52:33


http://img1.cna.com.tw/Eng/WebEngPhotos/CEP/20120521/2012052100301.jpg
Taipei, May 21 (CNA) Arriving passengers at the Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport Terminal on early Monday walked into a newly renovated arrivals hall with sunlight streaming through the insulating glass ceiling.

The new facilities include the north wing of the arrivals hall, a tourism information counter and a glass elevator that takes passengers to a bus terminal at ground level.

The terminal also boasts newly installed counters for the Tourism Bureau, the Council of Labor Affairs, telecommunications companies, car rental services and hotel reservations.

Gone are the somber temporary lighting and the panels separating the areas under construction from airport users.

The new facilities are part of a refurbishment and expansion project for the airport, the country's main gateway. Completion of the project is scheduled for the end of this year.

The Chinese-language United Daily News reported, however, that some direction signs in the arrivals hall are not clear enough and that a wall separating a construction area by an escalator connecting the hall and the bus terminal reduces the space available for the public.

One Taiwanese traveler surnamed Cheng, who returned from Germany that day, said the terminal felt more spacious and that there was a smell of fresh paint in the air, unlike the cramped feeling of the old terminal facilities, the newspaper said.

Cheng said the refurbished terminal feels more like an airport of international caliber, the newspaper said.

(By Chiu Chun-chin

edluva
May 23, 2012, 6:49 AM
It takes a Japanese architect to build anything half decent in taiwan, of course. A major improvement, although, like the Taiwan high speed rail, not one the Taiwanese can wholeheartedly take credit for

williamchung taiwan
May 23, 2012, 7:56 AM
I can give credit for high speed rail station designs, for example I quite like Hsinchu High Speed Rail station.

kalifese
May 24, 2012, 12:43 AM
It takes a Japanese architect to build anything half decent in taiwan, of course. A major improvement, although, like the Taiwan high speed rail, not one the Taiwanese can wholeheartedly take credit for

kris yao designed the hsinchu high speed rail station. and he's taiwanese. the taipei beitou library is also taiwanese designed.


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williamchung taiwan
May 25, 2012, 1:14 AM
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2012/05/16/2003532948
New airport food court to open in September
By Shelley Shan / Staff reporter



Taiwanese master baker Wu Pao-chun, center, stands outside his bakery in Greater Kaohsiung on Friday last week at a book signing event for his latest publication.
Photo: Huang Hsu-lei, Taipei TimesA new food court at Terminal 1 of Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport will open on Sept. 30, the state-run Taoyuan International Airport Corp (TIAC) said yesterday.

Renovations at Terminal 1, which began in 2009, are scheduled to be completed this year. The new food court is located at the terminal’s level-one basement (B1).

TIAC senior vice president Wen Yung-sung (溫永松) said the company had outsourced operations of the food court to Hsin Tung Yang Corp, which won the contract earlier this month.

Wen said the contractor planned to attract investment from international food chains, as well as Taiwanese restaurants.

Aside from McDonald’s and Tokyo Prince Ramen, Hairei Meatball of Hsinchu City and Jimmy’s Kitchen in Taipei will also have a presence at the terminal’s food court.

Wen said Taiwanese baker Wu Pao-chun (吳寶春), who won the Bakery Master title at the 2010 Bakery World Cup in Paris, would also have an outlet at the airport.

The quality of food at the nation’s main airport came under scrutiny following a complaint by Taiwanese gourmet Han Liang-lu (韓良露), who said that the food at the airport was expensive and tasted awful.

Wen said the company hoped the food quality at the airport could soon match that at Hong Kong International Airport.

According to TIAC, the renovation project has expanded the area of Terminal 1 by approximately 13,000m2.

Starting on Sunday, the company will gradually open different areas to the public.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2012/05/22/2003533445
Passengers pleased with new facilities in Taoyuan Airport
Staff writer, with CNA

Passengers arriving at Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport’s Terminal 1 yesterday walked into a newly renovated arrivals hall with sunlight streaming through the glass ceiling.

The new facilities include the north wing of the arrivals hall, a tourism information counter and a glass elevator that takes passengers to a bus terminal.

The terminal also boasts newly installed counters for the Tourism Bureau, the Council of Labor Affairs, telecommunications companies, car rental services and hotel reservations.

Gone are the somber temporary lighting and the panels separating the areas under construction from airport users.

The new facilities are part of a refurbishment and expansion project scheduled to be completed by the end of this year.

However, the Chinese-language United Daily News reported that some signs in the arrivals hall were not clear enough and that a wall separating a construction area reduces the space available for public use.

One Taiwanese traveler, surnamed Cheng (鄭), said the new terminal felt spacious, unlike the cramped old one.

edluva
May 26, 2012, 5:12 AM
ok i didn't mean to imply that not a single decent architect existed. but it is a wonder even a couple of them get commissioned to build anything of significance (public works) and even then, they pale in comparison to foreign talent.

for its level of economic development, taiwan feels about 15 years behind culturally.

williamchung taiwan
May 26, 2012, 9:57 AM
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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/7267990388_597dc8d01b_z.jpg

skyscrapercity.com

williamchung taiwan
Jun 5, 2012, 1:22 AM
The cross-strait meeting is coming soon. The authority will discuss open transit permission for all chinese visitors, which they don't need "Entry Permit of Mainland Residents to the Taiwan Area" booklet to transit via Taoyuan International Airport. Currently they need it.

It is due to special political environment between Tawian and China as passport don't recognise by either side.

williamchung taiwan
Jun 23, 2012, 2:48 AM
http://www.twairinfo.com/news_detail.php?id=16332&year=06&month=06&day=23&searchmode=0
桃機第3航廈今年完成總規畫 (聯合報)

更新日期:2012-06-21 23:42:12 記者:何定照

桃園機場總經理林鵬良今天表示,第3航廈今年將找總顧問完成總規畫,6年後建成可容納4300萬人,是第1、2航廈合計總人數的1.3倍,可望成為最佳門面。

林鵬良說,桃園機場33年前建成,是依預估的未來需求打造,如今早已不敷使用,第3航廈興建迫在眉睫。

林鵬良說,第3航廈興建計畫分3階段,首先是今年將完成的總規畫,將讓3航廈和1、2航廈相融合;第2階段是設計顧問,即徵求國際競圖,預計明年完成;第3階段是2014年施工,預計2018年完工。

This year company is going to hire contractor for General Consultancy Services. General Consultancy Services will finalise the overall detail of the terminal 3 area development (to say what are facilities, building, systems, concepts of airport terminal should include the final design). Then, the company will use this detailed plan to launch international competition for terminal 3 or entire terminal 3 development.

So we will going to have three stages for terminal 3 area development
1. General Consultancy Services develop and set up overall concept of the development.
2. International design competition will regard to this overall plan
3. Development construction

The budget is 50 billion NT dollars at the moment.

williamchung taiwan
Jun 30, 2012, 5:16 AM
The RIF seminar in 2011 was the open meeting established by Airport company and aimed to gather information and trend of airport terminal from both international contractors and private contractors to set up its tender document for general consultancy services of Terminal 3 project. It is also have another purpose, introduce terminal 3 development project to contractors in world-wide.


Here is the list of companies, contractors, institution in 2011 RIF Seminar.
http://www.taoyuan-airport.com/UserF...minar_list.pdf

williamchung taiwan
Jul 17, 2012, 2:48 PM
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williamchung taiwan
Jul 18, 2012, 11:48 AM
桃機三航廈建毛胚屋 省百億


【中央社╱台北18日電】


2012.07.18 10:10 am


桃園國際機場第三航廈總顧問將在下週招標。桃園機場公司節省經費,採毛胚屋做法,內部除公共空間外,其他由承租業者裝修,原本新台幣600億元的興建經費,下修到500億元。

桃機公司說,根據興建第一及第二航廈的經驗,航廈完工後,將營業空間租給航空公司、免稅店、一般商店時,業者都會打掉原有的裝潢設施,重新設計。

桃機公司規畫第三航廈時,原本也打算沿用以往方式,整個航廈內外裝修,都由機場公司一手包辦,經費估計要600億元。

桃機公司表示,後來審查第三航廈計畫時,發現第一及第二航廈的做法太浪費,決定航廈內部除公共空間外,未來出租營業的空間,採取毛胚屋的做法,不再另設計裝潢,交由承租業者負責。

交通部已核定桃園機場第三航廈興建案,桃機公司將興建經費下修100億元,總顧問下週招標,總顧問將協助桃機公司辦理第三航廈綜合規劃、建設計畫、環境影響評估、基本設計、施工監造。

桃機公司規畫,第三航廈位於第二航廈西側,將採複合式經營,旅客在機場不再只是匆匆進出,還可選擇在機場內娛樂、消費、參加會議,甚至住宿。

第三航廈規模比第一、二航廈大,設計年客運量是約4300萬人次,高於現在第一、第二航廈共約3000萬人次,預計2018年啟用。

交通部預估,2020年桃園機場客運量為4500萬人次,如果不建第三航廈,現有兩座航廈將不敷使用;而2030年桃園機場客運量預估為5800萬人次,3座航廈有足夠的容量可因應。

【2012/07/18 中央社】@ http://udn.com/



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The tendering for general consultant contract will start next week. General consultant will help airport company to implement terminal 3 proposal, construction plan, environmental impact assessment, conceptual design and construction supervision.

The budget reduce from 60 billion to 50 billion. Airport company decide that construction will not include all interiors for service area ( shops, restaurants, lounge rooms, and other service facilities). The interior will be done by tenders using their own design. In the past experience, Taoyuan airport finished all interior include service area and it has been find that it is waste of money as tenders bring their own interior design.

kalifese
Jul 18, 2012, 10:47 PM
looks great!! maybe after they design and build a super big terminal 3 they can turn terminal 1 into a nice mall and entertainment complex. the design for terminal 3 should match terminal 1 or compliment it and they should tear down terminal 2 so there's one big airport terminal and a supplemental entertainment/mall next to it. then you wont have 3 distinct terminal designs that dont match together.

edluva
Jul 19, 2012, 9:03 AM
What ugly columns. They ruin it for me. Could have used a little more imagination

kalifese
Jul 20, 2012, 11:36 PM
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kalifese
Jul 20, 2012, 11:38 PM
What ugly columns. They ruin it for me. Could have used a little more imagination


nah you're wrong. they look great. and this is coming from someone who's generally critical of taiwanese designs. tho not as much as you . you're the queen of criticisms in the skyscraperpage site.

edluva
Jul 21, 2012, 9:10 AM
i have higher standards than some ;)

to be fair, it's not all bad. i honestly think i'd do a better job one some parts of the design though. and i'm a layman. take your last pic for example. the entire left half of your picture looks stupid. those horizontal beams jutting out from the wall. i know they're structural elements of the original building but c'mon, what utter lack of imagination to simply clad them in white and not address their imposing lack of purpose - they are a visual nuisance. and the patterned cladding on the wall extending down the columns to the left just looks busy and cheap. yeah, i see an attempt to tie in a design motif, but come on - this is childs-play.

the striped columns in williamchung's pics look like something out of a shinkong mitsukoshi lobby from 1994 and would have been better left as polished concrete or minimalistic white cladding.

but again, the overall result is acceptable considering taiwan is not world class like europe/japan. you're correct, taiwan will always be overlooked as the land of mediocrity; greatness is overrated anyways.

williamchung taiwan
Jul 22, 2012, 7:11 AM
I don't care who's standard is higher. It is personal, I am not very interesting.

williamchung taiwan
Jul 22, 2012, 7:16 AM
10 billion will spend on following projects include land acquisition for airport exapnsion ie runway way, free trade zone, satellite terminal and new raods, terminal 3, mixed commercial building next to terminal 3 (terminal 3 development area), transport centre in terminal 3 development area, new warehouse for airpline maintenance and storage, satellite update and system update, terminal 1 renovation is also included.

kalifese
Jul 26, 2012, 4:17 AM
another shot of exterior:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8145/7618869902_2e5152f6aa_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7135/7618871566_2f7a9a5e1f_b.jpg