[Reverberation]

V Soul Town V
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[robhut]

Those electric lines need to be buried. Same in LA and Miami it looks so disgusting!!!
But nice pics BTW.

[JackStraw]

cool

[LSyd]

great pics.

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[dharper6]

Those electric lines need to be buried. Same in LA and Miami it looks so disgusting!!!
But nice pics BTW.

It's that way here in Austin too. I didn't used to notice until Reverberation made a point of making sure power lines are in the photos. Seems to be that way in most cities. I don't know which I hate more...power lines or billboards.

[Metro Matt]

Those electric lines need to be buried. Same in LA and Miami it looks so disgusting!!!
But nice pics BTW.

I think it looks pretty cool out in an open area, especially driving around the Beltway where you see mile after mile of them lined up in some places.

In a city like Houston, the "Energy Capital of the World" its pretty fitting to see such an awesome display of power like that & knowing that its powering the lives of the 5.6 million plus people that live in this mega metropolis.

I do however wish they would bury the lines on some of those wooden telephone polls all around town. Now those are ugly...

[KevinFromTexas]

Very cool. Love the two shots with the Williams Tower.

[Reverberation]

It's that way here in Austin too. I didn't used to notice until Reverberation made a point of making sure power lines are in the photos. Seems to be that way in most cities. I don't know which I hate more...power lines or billboards.

I actually like them. I guess I'm into details like that.

[Jerry]

Good stuff - love some of the special effects.

[pj3000]

Unfortunately, this is precisely what comes to mind when I think of Texas. I lived there for 3 years and often wonder how much of that time was spent "living" like this. Burn that fuel boys! Yeeeehawww!

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[Evergrey]

you have captured the essence of Houston in these photos... I applaud your skills

[dharper6]

Unfortunately, this is precisely what comes to mind when I think of Texas. I lived there for 3 years and often wonder how much of that time was spent "living" like this. Burn that fuel boys! Yeeeehawww!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d38/Tigerdude07/Urban%20Scenes%203/LMXVI005.jpg

Unfortunately, it's the mindset of much of the country, not just Texas.

[Texas Tuff]

Very nice job. I especially like the 5th shot up from the last with the sun shining through the hazy clouds on the skyline down below.

:yes:

[AdrianXSands]

Unfortunately, this is precisely what comes to mind when I think of Texas. I lived there for 3 years and often wonder how much of that time was spent "living" like this. Burn that fuel boys! Yeeeehawww!


you must not know what real city life is like :) yeeeeeeehaaawww! :tup:

[Metro Matt]

Unfortunately, this is precisely what comes to mind when I think of Texas. I lived there for 3 years and often wonder how much of that time was spent "living" like this. Burn that fuel boys! Yeeeehawww!

:rolleyes:

As if NYC doesn't have bad traffic...

[Shasta]

Cool photos.

The freeway shot lures Adrian in again. I think he's a Freesexual.

[AdrianXSands]

Cool photos.

The freeway shot lures Adrian in again. I think he's a Freesexual.

pj3000 lured me in

[JMancuso]

wow, the trolls are out in full force in this thread.

[bobdreamz]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d38/Tigerdude07/Urban%20Scenes%203/LMXVI005.jpg

This has to be one of the visually ugliest roads in the nation with all those tacky signs & billboards fronting the highway. Of course Houston has no Zoning so this is the result I guess. The overheard power lines don't bother me as much but the majority seem to be looking like they are about to topple over. Otherwise the skyline and urban shots were good.

[pj3000]

:rolleyes:

As if NYC doesn't have bad traffic...

Of course it does, but I rarely have to experience it. For me, life is far better in New York. When I lived in Houston, it felt like I lived in my car. In my original post, I said that the photo unfortunately represents how I spent much of my time while I lived in Texas. Overall, I liked Houston, but hated the way of life one was often required to lead due to the fact that the layout of the city is the result of being entirely dependent on the car. Obviously, the same can be said of other American cities, but Texas cities (Houston in particular) seem to almost revel in it. And when photos like that display the extreme ugliness that is present in Houston because of it, you're going to see comments that you may take offense to because they are legitimate descriptions of Houston. If you don't like that, too bad.

wow, the trolls are out in full force in this thread.

If any of this has been trolling, then we all might as well resign ourselves to just saying, "Cool photos" or "Nice shots!" or "Wow" for every thread. If you can't bring up a perfectly legitimate point for fear that it will hurt someone's feelings about "their" city, then the purpose of this forum is lost. I comment on a photo of Houston that represents what many (including most on this forum) feel is wrong with our American way of life, and people's feelings get hurt. Again, too bad. And, Adrian was replying about an idiotic and hilarious comment a poster from The Woodlands made in another thread. There is no trolling.

Last time I checked, this site was for "skyscraper and urbanism enthusiasts". That photo which I commented on represents nothing close to urbanism, but rather anti-urbanism. Most forumers probably have a rather negative reaction to it, given the nature of this site. That photo, which unfortunately is a truthful representation of Houston's main problem (as I see it), is therefore ripe for criticism.

[LSyd]

If any of this has been trolling, then we all might as well resign ourselves to just saying, "Cool photos" or "Nice shots!" or "Wow" for every thread. If you can't bring up a perfectly legitimate point for fear that it will hurt someone's feelings about "their" city, then the purpose of this forum is lost. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com)

it should really be about tact...something many forumers lack, maybe because this is the internet, or maybe they're just like that...

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[Great_Hizzy]

It's the denial that seems to go on in the heads of uber-urbanists when it comes to cities like Houston, in which they pinpoint specific "ills" that are apparent in those cities and yet seem to act as if there aren't similar elements in play in there supposed uptopas, as if you can't drive down North Avenue in Chicago and find the steet lined with buildings that are overburdened with store marquees and billboards or paralleled park vehicles hugging half the streetscape and creating visual congestion. New York's no different. But because it's a freeway and in a city south of DC ("oh, jesus, helps us!") it becomes some odd rallying point for forged snobbery.

But it is what it is and this site is what it is so when you understand what it's about you take it for what it is.

[zigzag]

Thanks for sharing.

[Reverberation]

Of course it does, but I rarely have to experience it. For me, life is far better in New York. When I lived in Houston, it felt like I lived in my car. In my original post, I said that the photo unfortunately represents how I spent much of my time while I lived in Texas. Overall, I liked Houston, but hated the way of life one was often required to lead due to the fact that the layout of the city is the result of being entirely dependent on the car. Obviously, the same can be said of other American cities, but Texas cities (Houston in particular) seem to almost revel in it. And when photos like that display the extreme ugliness that is present in Houston because of it, you're going to see comments that you may take offense to because they are legitimate descriptions of Houston. If you don't like that, too bad.



If any of this has been trolling, then we all might as well resign ourselves to just saying, "Cool photos" or "Nice shots!" or "Wow" for every thread. If you can't bring up a perfectly legitimate point for fear that it will hurt someone's feelings about "their" city, then the purpose of this forum is lost. I comment on a photo of Houston that represents what many (including most on this forum) feel is wrong with our American way of life, and people's feelings get hurt. Again, too bad. And, Adrian was replying about an idiotic and hilarious comment a poster from The Woodlands made in another thread. There is no trolling.

Last time I checked, this site was for "skyscraper and urbanism enthusiasts". That photo which I commented on represents nothing close to urbanism, but rather anti-urbanism. Most forumers probably have a rather negative reaction to it, given the nature of this site. That photo, which unfortunately is a truthful representation of Houston's main problem (as I see it), is therefore ripe for criticism.

Have at it. I knew what it was when I took a picture of it. The city is also home to the polar opposite of that, which you know by now if you look at my threads. It is always interesting food for thought.

[pj3000]

^ Absolutely. I lived there so I know Houston also has the polar opposite of that. As you said, the photo is food for thought...

[zaphod]

I dunno I've always liked all the chaos and crazyness of Houston's landscape.

[dharper6]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d38/Tigerdude07/Urban%20Scenes%203/LMXVI005.jpg

This has to be one of the visually ugliest roads in the nation with all those tacky signs & billboards fronting the highway. Of course Houston has no Zoning so this is the result I guess. The overheard power lines don't bother me as much but the majority seem to be looking like they are about to topple over. Otherwise the skyline and urban shots were good.

I was just in Orlando and saw no shortage of ugly roads and traffic snarls.

[TexasBoi]

I was just in Orlando and saw no shortage of ugly roads and traffic snarls.

I think bobdreamz is the last person to actually stick up for Orlando's urbanity. He knows it has it's faults. So you're not telling him anything that he doesn't know about it already. I sometimes may disagree with pj3000 but I see nothing wrong with what he has said in this thread.

[JMancuso]

If any of this has been trolling, then we all might as well resign ourselves to just saying, "Cool photos" or "Nice shots!" or "Wow" for every thread. If you can't bring up a perfectly legitimate point for fear that it will hurt someone's feelings about "their" city, then the purpose of this forum is lost. I comment on a photo of Houston that represents what many (including most on this forum) feel is wrong with our American way of life, and people's feelings get hurt. Again, too bad. And, Adrian was replying about an idiotic and hilarious comment a poster from The Woodlands made in another thread. There is no trolling.

Last time I checked, this site was for "skyscraper and urbanism enthusiasts". That photo which I commented on represents nothing close to urbanism, but rather anti-urbanism. Most forumers probably have a rather negative reaction to it, given the nature of this site. That photo, which unfortunately is a truthful representation of Houston's main problem (as I see it), is therefore ripe for criticism.

how about...if you don't have anything nice to say...don't post at all and move along. after all, this was someone's photo thread and not some debate in city discussions about houston's urbanity. it's disrespectful to reverberation who is an excellent photographer and put the time and effort create this thread.

[TXLove]

great pictures and for that amount of traffic 14 min to downtown doesn't seem that bad.

So Houstonians how far is that photo in relationship to downtown?

[JMancuso]

it's I-45 coming up from clear lake & galveston and that particular spot is near southeast edge of the city.

[Metro Matt]

Of course it does, but I rarely have to experience it. For me, life is far better in New York. When I lived in Houston, it felt like I lived in my car. In my original post, I said that the photo unfortunately represents how I spent much of my time while I lived in Texas. Overall, I liked Houston, but hated the way of life one was often required to lead due to the fact that the layout of the city is the result of being entirely dependent on the car. Obviously, the same can be said of other American cities, but Texas cities (Houston in particular) seem to almost revel in it. And when photos like that display the extreme ugliness that is present in Houston because of it, you're going to see comments that you may take offense to because they are legitimate descriptions of Houston. If you don't like that, too bad.

You obviously didn't live in the "new" urban Houston. Downtown had a rebirth back in 2001 & hasn't looked back yet. Getting around in Houston without a car was/is very possible.

[AdrianXSands]

You obviously didn't live in the "new" urban Houston. Downtown had a rebirth back in 2001 & hasn't looked back yet. Getting around in Houston without a car was/is very possible.


whoa dude, come on, are you serious? what part of 'new' houston do you live in that is walkable or urban in ANY way? i grew up in the montrose/river oaks area and was there in 2001 when this 'rebirth' happened, and other than some apartment complexes in midtown and the lofts at the ballpark and whatever else, i have no idea what you're talking about. don't live in denial dude, living in houston sans car is torturous, tiresome, slow, complicated, and extremely inefficient.

the extremely high level of denial and delusion from the houstonians on this forum is far beyond me. :koko: i just don't get in.

[Reverberation]

whoa dude, come on, are you serious? what part of 'new' houston do you live in that is walkable or urban in ANY way? i grew up in the montrose/river oaks area and was there in 2001 when this 'rebirth' happened, and other than some apartment complexes in midtown and the lofts at the ballpark and whatever else, i have no idea what you're talking about. don't live in denial dude, living in houston sans car is torturous, tiresome, slow, complicated, and extremely inefficient.

the extremely high level of denial and delusion from the houstonians on this forum is far beyond me. :koko: i just don't get in.

Inside the loop and in many areas you need a car to go to the airport or to the beach but thats it. A friend of mine has a car for one purpose and that is to get to the airport. Aside from that everywhere is within walking distance or biking distance. Also, since there is no zoning, most suburban neighborhoods have schools, grocers, parks, and banks within a short walk or bike, and there are business districts scattered around the city like weeds.

You are right, getting to work almost always requires a car, but it is possible to live here without one depending on your location..

And yes, most things aren't downstairs or just down the street, but walking a 6 blocks won't kill you either...... Unless its August.

[Xeelee]

Looks good. Thanks for the nice pics. :)

[Great_Hizzy]

Hey, Reverb, how 'bout you give us a hint as to your next theme so that we can anticipate it even more. ;)

[ElChancho]

Unfortunately, it's the mindset of much of the country, not just Texas.

I really don't think it's the mindset of most Americans, America once had a very good public transit system but it was destroyed by corporations in pursuit of power and profits....

http://www.lovearth.net/gmdeliberatelydestroyed.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy

http://www.verdant.net/natlcity.htm

apparently there's even a documentary about this

http://www.newday.com/films/Taken_for_a_Ride.html

corporate power has gone to far, thats why we're paying ridiculous prices at the pumps while exxon mobil post the largest profits in history 40billion ohyyaaaa, I'll stick with my bicycle:)

[Shasta]

whoa dude, come on, are you serious? what part of 'new' houston do you live in that is walkable or urban in ANY way? i grew up in the montrose/river oaks area and was there in 2001 when this 'rebirth' happened, and other than some apartment complexes in midtown and the lofts at the ballpark and whatever else, i have no idea what you're talking about. don't live in denial dude, living in houston sans car is torturous, tiresome, slow, complicated, and extremely inefficient.

the extremely high level of denial and delusion from the houstonians on this forum is far beyond me. :koko: i just don't get in.

There is no denial. I lived in Houston from 1995 to 1997 on Elmen Street in The Montrose. Within 10 minutes of walking time, I could find everything I needed (grocery stores, dry cleaners, restaurants, bars, movie theatres, and more). I also very easily rode my bike to classes at UH's central campus. Sure, there were times I needed my car, but it's not like I had to have it for everything I did.

I've lived in Boston for the past 11 years. While it is easier to get around without a car than Houston, I still find I need one and apparently so do many people who live in the "dense" center of the Hub. The Back Bay paper just had an article this week on the fact there are FOUR TIMES as many parking stickers for Beacon Hill than there are places to park!

[TinChelseaNYC]

Great eye! Great pictures!

[pj3000]

how about...if you don't have anything nice to say...don't post at all and move along. after all, this was someone's photo thread and not some debate in city discussions about houston's urbanity. it's disrespectful to reverberation who is an excellent photographer and put the time and effort create this thread.

How about... Reverberation's photo elicited a response from me, something good photographers achieve quite often... both positive and negative ones. He obviously did not see it as terribly "disrespectful", given his comment. As he said below, he takes photos that are "food for thought". Reverberation takes photos that are not as traditional as the ones we see on here the majority of the time. If one of his photos can trigger a response, then he has more than done his job... that is far from being "disrespectful" to the photographer.

Have at it. I knew what it was when I took a picture of it. The city is also home to the polar opposite of that, which you know by now if you look at my threads. It is always interesting food for thought.

[urbanactivistTX]

Of course it does, but I rarely have to experience it. For me, life is far better in New York. When I lived in Houston, it felt like I lived in my car. In my original post, I said that the photo unfortunately represents how I spent much of my time while I lived in Texas. Overall, I liked Houston, but hated the way of life one was often required to lead due to the fact that the layout of the city is the result of being entirely dependent on the car. Obviously, the same can be said of other American cities, but Texas cities (Houston in particular) seem to almost revel in it. And when photos like that display the extreme ugliness that is present in Houston because of it, you're going to see comments that you may take offense to because they are legitimate descriptions of Houston. If you don't like that, too bad.



If any of this has been trolling, then we all might as well resign ourselves to just saying, "Cool photos" or "Nice shots!" or "Wow" for every thread. If you can't bring up a perfectly legitimate point for fear that it will hurt someone's feelings about "their" city, then the purpose of this forum is lost. I comment on a photo of Houston that represents what many (including most on this forum) feel is wrong with our American way of life, and people's feelings get hurt. Again, too bad. And, Adrian was replying about an idiotic and hilarious comment a poster from The Woodlands made in another thread. There is no trolling.

Last time I checked, this site was for "skyscraper and urbanism enthusiasts". That photo which I commented on represents nothing close to urbanism, but rather anti-urbanism. Most forumers probably have a rather negative reaction to it, given the nature of this site. That photo, which unfortunately is a truthful representation of Houston's main problem (as I see it), is therefore ripe for criticism.

^Thanks for giving your honest opinion on the matter. And it's good that you have experienced both cities, and you know which one you prefer.

The audacity of Houston is pretty astounding to me, and was offensive when I first moved here. The thought that a city can just will itself into being without any reason or logic was unnerving.

Now that I have lived here for almost three years, I'm used to it, and I actually like it. Even the picture above is kinda neat just b/c it's so ridiculous. Of course it's easy to see the "good" in a city when you've protected yourself from so much of the bad (I haven't been stuck in a work-time traffic jam for almost two months now).

Above all, what I admire the most about Houston is that it's a great work in progress. We're an economic powerhouse, but somehow still a new kid on the block. We know what makes a city, what a "real city looks like, and all of those ever-present rules that most of the country goes by. The difference is, we haven't quite written our rules down yet.

As a fellow skyscraper and urban enthusiast, I take pride in the fact that Houston causes such a strong reaction here. Like the old addage says...

The only bad press is NO PRESS AT ALL

:notacrook: :notacrook: :notacrook: HOUSTON :notacrook: :notacrook: :notacrook:

[urbanactivistTX]

as for Adrian, I bet he changes opinions with the wind...

or is it the snow??:tup:

[ChiPsy]

as for Adrian, I bet he changes opinions with the wind...

or is it the snow??:tup:

Cute, but in conjunction with the overstated diss on Chicago's North Avenue a few posts back, we're getting perilously close to the "city vs. city" crap that closes threads in a hurry.

The problem with Adrian's frequent criticisms of Houston is that his location when he makes those comments should be labeled "formerly Houston, now Chicago," not just "Chicago." So don't take his comments to represent a Chicagoan's view of Houston; I doubt we see it much differently than anyone else does. (I, for one, like the place.)

Meanwhile, I admire the authenticity of the Houston shots that frequently get posted on this site. They really do provoke thought about urban issues.

[10101000]

Bad Traffic Bad!

[urbanactivistTX]

Bad Traffic Bad!

LOL I gotta get a camera so I can "weigh in"