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[Cambridgite]

The Egale finding that most caught her eye was that only 33 per cent of gay respondents thought teachers addressed homophobia effectively, compared with 60 per cent of straight respondents. It's clear more work needs to be done, Bonza said.

I wonder, what would this work entail? Brainwashing?

Yes, homophobia does exist and harrassment/violence/bullying is wrong, but this....

Some teachers have gotten the message. Julie Slimmon said that as a lesbian mother, her experience has so far been positive. Her daughter's junior kindergarten teacher has talked to the class about how families can be different.

"On Mother's Day, we got stuff that said: 'To my mothers.' "

...just smacks of cultural marxism and the gay agenda.

[KW4Life]

...the gay agenda.

You forgot to insert the word evil in there. In your context, that's what you imply.

All divisions in society have an agenda. What is best for them. I hardly think fighting against persecution with education and awareness is such a terrible thing.

This isn't the place to discuss the issue, but you started it. ;)

[Cambridgite]

You forgot to insert the word evil in there. In your context, that's what you imply.

All divisions in society have an agenda. What is best for them.

I don't think *most* gay people are evil or have an agenda, as some view their sexuality as a private and sacred thing while others try to flaunt it. But there is a segment of the population (cultural marxists) who constantly try to change everybody's views on many legitimate issues surround homosexuality. They claim to do so in the name of "tolerance", but actually become quite intolerant of anyone who disagrees. Sometimes it just feels like they're trying to shove it down your throat. Young children do not need to be exposed to all of this brainwashing. But you are absolutely right that all divisions in society have an agenda to some degree.

I hardly think fighting against persecution with education and awareness is such a terrible thing.

By now, most people know that it's immoral to bully/persecute/physically harm someone because they're gay. They don't need brainwashing or "hate crime" legislation to stop those who disagree. The gay community is a collective, but more importantly, they are individuals and gain their rights as such. So if someone goes and beats someone up for being gay, they are guilty of assault and should be punished to the full extent of the law. But cultural marxists believe that, because they are an "oppressed group", they have a greater right to protection under the law than heterosexuals do.

[Rathgrith]

And how is RIM! involded in this?

[GreatTallNorth2]

What a useless thread this is! Who really cares about it?

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[Brenden]

Which one won Miss Pride? I forgot all about this, oups. Well next year.

[Cambridgite]

Your posts in here have been some of the worst I've ever seen posted on SSP. You think homosexuals are doing the brainwashing? How ridiculous of a position is that? Like seriously, did you even think at all before you posted that opinion of yours?

The reality is religious groups brainwashed the public for years on a number of issues. One of those was homosexuality, of which they claimed the practice was 'unnatural', and some type of 'mental disorder'. Well science (as usual) is proving religion wrong. Science has shown us a person's sexuality is part of their biological make-up, and that homosexuality is infact a natural occurrence, not just in humans, but in many other species as well.

Never did I say before that homosexuality was immoral or doesn't occur naturally. What's unnatural is the brainwashing of kindergarten students who are too young to even understand the issues around it. It can be covered in sex education when they're older. Another thing I find unnatural is having parades to celebrate a sexual preference. You have your freedom of expression, but I have mine as well. If you want to continue this further, PM me.

[dunkalunk]

Technically, worms are asexual.

[jeremy_haak]

Another thing I find unnatural is having parades to celebrate a sexual preference.

I don't think you really understand the idea behind Pride at all. It's far more than being about sexual orientation.

[Rathgrith]

You know, you don't need to post EVERY picture you took from the event.

[Cambridgite]

Alright, I said PM me, but w/e.

So then what are you referring to when you say "many legitimate issues surround homosexuality"?

Namely, adoption.

Secondly, the marriage issue. If some churches truly believe in gay marriage, then sure, they can perform them. But some don't. It's not the government's role to meddle in the affairs of the church and command that they must perform same-sex marriages. Now, if the government wants to give them the legal rights that straight couples have, then okay.

Actually some life lessons can't wait. What happens when a child in the class has same-sex parents? Teachers shouldn't say how families can be different?"

Why are gay couples adopting children in the first place? Don't gay couples know that they'll be putting their children through a whole ton of stress in their lives? I know you want to be seen as a legitimate, child-bearing couple, aand I can't blame you. But let's face it, kids will be kids and they will go through hell at school for having two moms or two dads.

Or secretly deep-down would you love to have children of same-sex couples segregated (perhaps they can reuse the same schools previously used by racially mixed children), then they won't be able to "brainwash" the 'normal' kids? :rolleyes:

Wow, hahaha. Equating mixed-race kids to kids with same-sex parents. That's not the same thing and you know it.

Also, I guess it's pretty unnatural to teach kids 'it's ok to be yourself'. What an awful completely unnatural life lesson to learn. :rolleyes:

Of course it's ok to be yourself. But to put a child through hellish ridicule because you're trying to advance 'gay rights' or satisfy some biological urge is awfully selfish.

I suspect this isn't a slip of typing, but in fact your true opinion: that homosexuality is a preference rather than the way someone is born. Of course science has proven that opinion to be false, but according to you more education isn't needed since it's just a form of "brainwashing". :rolleyes: .

Someone is born into having their sexual preferences (activated later in life). Of course it's biology and science has proven that. And again, scientific education about homosexuality can take place during sex-ed. Most kindergarteners don't even know what sex is, let alone homosexuality.

Sure, but your freedom of expression is based on hate. Mine is based on scientific fact.

OMG, any time someone has a differing opinion, it's hate!! :rolleyes:

[kitchener-lrt]

Technically, worms are asexual.

Why yes, yes they are :haha: .

[kitchener-lrt]

Can you guys take this bickering somewhere else please?
Thanks :)

[Cambridgite]

If I met someone in real life saying the same stuff, I wouldn't give them the time of day and just ignore them. Why should it be any different on the internet? It shouldn't, so I'm done conversing with you. Just block me, and I'll block you, so we don't have to chat anymore.

I'm not going to block you. See, I can read just about any post on an internet forum without going haywire and snapping at someone. I can read a post that I find downright offensive and still sleep at night, knowing that someone has a different opinion than mine. And to be frank, I like reading your updates on the developments happening in this Region, so I wouldn't want to block you. It is YOU who has a problem reading MY posts. So, since it is you who has the problem, I suggest YOU block ME. Very well then. Let's end this discussion, since it is obviously not going anywhere.

[kitchener-lrt]

When I joined this forum, WaterlooInvestor and Cambridgite were the "main people".
You guys were like the "chiefs" of the waterloo region section.
...oh the good ol' days.....

[WaterlooInvestor]

To the others: This doesn't mean I won't stop working to build up our urban areas. I'm still going to keep talking about our urban boom with friends, with associates, at political functions, at business events, with my neighbours etc... Also, during the summer, I plan on setting up a dedicated Waterloo Region site similar to: http://urbantoronto.ca ; http://mtlurb.com/forums/ ; or http://vibrantvictoria.ca/forum/ . It will be hate-free (no sexism, racism, homophobic remarks, etc..) so that's something to look forward to.

[DC83]

Wow what a great turn out! Hope u had a good time. Hamilton's was alright, good turnout too, but nothin's gonna be like this weekend!

Happy Pride!

[dunkalunk]

*sigh* it'll be sad to see you go, but I understand that you need to do what you must do.

[Cambridgite]

Oh come on, WaterlooInvestor. You don't need to leave. How about I just not speak about sensitive issues anymore? I guess I'll just have to grit my teeth in worries of offending someone.

[vid]

You're going to leave just because some jackass is being a jackass?

You still haven't shown me what's going on behind the happy little bushes!! :(

[Cambridgite]

You're going to leave just because some jackass is being a jackass?

Uh-oh Vid. I don't like your tone and you are offending me. Stop being a jackass. I'm going to have to leave. ;)

Just kidding. I'm staying! :D

Man, if I got up and left everytime someone made a jackass remark that I didn't agree with, I'd never stay around anywhere! WaterlooInvestor, I am a facetious jackass by my nature. But don't let me stop you from enjoying our discussion about the great developments going on in our region.

[kitchener-lrt]

C'mon guys! This is meant to be a site about the developements and events of our region!

WI, we get our information from you! Don't go.

[dunkalunk]

^lol, it's true!

[Brenden]

There are people that piss you off everywhere. You just have to turn the other cheek. WaterlooInvestor you made some very going points believe me I am on your side, but by giving in and leaving you are just doing what those people want. Stand up and never change who you are or what you do because someone says you shouldn't. I am Bi (not that that matters), I do not agree with the comments made by some members here but I respect the fact that in Canada he has the right to make them. Some times you just have to be the bigger man and make your point, it may not make a difference to everyone but it may change the minds of a few.

Although I am new here it would be a great loss if you go. Please stay.

[Cambridgite]

There are people that piss you off everywhere. You just have to turn the other cheek. WaterlooInvestor you made some very going points believe me I am on your side, but by giving in and leaving you are just doing what those people want.

I don't want him to leave.

Stand up and never change who you are or what you do because someone says you shouldn't.

I never said he shouldn't have his opinion. By all means, he should have his opinion and stand up to me on it. Admittedly, he was doing pretty well for a while! I wasn't overly impressed with the way that he argued it at times, by flying around words like "ignorant" and "hater". I find these words are often used by people who simply don't want to address your side of the argument and act like there's no argument to be made in the first place. An intimidation tactic of sorts.

I am Bi (not that that matters), I do not agree with the comments made by some members here but I respect the fact that in Canada he has the right to make them.

Exactly. :)

"I do not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it".