[Bigtime]

Mrs. Bigtime and I went to check out our new art addition this evening, not quite fully assembled yet and missing the stain glass but looking pretty awesome anyways. Here are my pics!

PS: Thanks whiney Vancouver condo owners! :D

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[jeffwhit]

Wow, I had no idea that it was going up now, I thought they'd wait until Ramsay Exchange was ready for move in. I'm going to go check it out.

[O-tacular]

So if the sculpture is only on a 5 year loan to the Glenbow, won't it pretty much be out of there by the time Ramsay Exchange is complete?:jester:

[Wooster]

Love it! Thanks for grabbing some pics.

[defaultuser]

09/10/08
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6766/img5812xb9.jpg

[ExcaliburKid]

Mrs. Bigtime and I went to check out our new art addition this evening, not quite fully assembled yet and missing the stain glass but looking pretty awesome anyways. Here are my pics!

PS: Thanks whiney Vancouver condo owners! :D

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/Staynera/09-05-08007.jpg

So....it's been placed in an industrial area of town? Public art is great, but this makes my eyes water. No wonder Van didnt want it :yuck:

[Wooster]

So....it's been placed in an industrial area of town? Public art is great, but this makes my eyes water. No wonder Van didnt want it :yuck:


It's on the periphery of a residential area - transitioning to industrial land. However, this land is planned to be transormed into this in the fullness of time by the developer Torode.

It will incorporate into Ramsay Exchange:

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[Bigtime]

Great pic Defaultuser, I drove by on my way home yesterday and saw them putting up the glass!

[ExcaliburKid]

^^
Ah i see. That will suit it much better! Looks pretty good! :tup:

[defaultuser]

Great pic Defaultuser, I drove by on my way home yesterday and saw them putting up the glass!


Thanks! I'm guessing it should be done by today, but who knows. It looked like quite the process just to put the "glass" on.

Oh and I've only seen him briefly on the news, but I think the guy in the white shirt was Torode.

[Bigtime]

I thought that looked like Torode in your picture, pretty sure it was then. I haven't had a chance to talk to him in a while. His son is the owner of Cafe Rosso there in Ramsay Exchange.

[Jimby]

Thanks! I'm guessing it should be done by today, but who knows. It looked like quite the process just to put the "glass" on.

Oh and I've only seen him briefly on the news, but I think the guy in the white shirt was Torode.

I think Torode is the guy in the suit beside the guy in the white shirt.
Nice pic of the red glass Defaultuser!
I want to check it out at night when the lighting is on it.

[Bigtime]

I'm thinking he is the white shirt, grayer hair and shorter. Let's derail this into a "which guy is Torode?" thread! :haha:

[defaultuser]

haha! I'll upload a higher res. crop when i get home and hopefully it'll end this debate!

[defaultuser]

as you can clearly see..... well, maybe not.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/601/img5812sk6.jpg

here's another shot anyway..
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[Bigtime]

That's John on the left, no doubt about it. I win! What do I win though? Perhaps the church after 5 years? :D

[Jimby]

I would make a lousy papparazzi!

[Boris2k7]

Model for new $2 million Stampede Park sculpture unveiled (http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=6c772541-1a01-4a7a-9189-03e8c9fa5a30)

Nancy Tousley, Calgary Herald
Published: Tuesday, September 16, 2008

CALGARY - The original wax model for a monumental $2 million bronze sculpture was unveiled Tuesday by the Calgary Stampede.

By the Banks of the Bow, a collaboration by Alberta sculptors Rich Roenish and Bob Spaith, depicts two cowboys on horseback driving 13 horses across the Bow River and up onto a bank. The work's theme celebrates the role of the horse in the history of Calgary and western culture.

When the group of 15 figures is installed in 2010, just south of the Corall in Stampede Park, it will be one of the largest bronze sculptural groupings in North America.

Covering an area of 1,250 square feet, the sculpture will be about "the size of a three-bedroom bungalow in Haysboro," says Stampede president George Brookman.

The figures of horses and riders are 1.25 life size. The head of a six-foot-tall man standing under the front of the sculpture would not reach the raised hooves of the first leaping horse.

Funding for the work has come from one donor who wishes to remain anonymous.

By the Banks of the Bow is the first of 10 artworks to be sited by the Stampede around Calgary as part of its plan to make Stamped park a year round destination for Calgarians and tourists.


© Calgary Herald 2008

Accompanying Herald Picture and description:

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Calgary Stampede president George Brookman is joined by artists Bob Spaith, left, and Richard Roenisch at the unveiling of plans for a 15-piece bronze statue Tuesday, Sept. 16 at Stampede headquarters.

Stuart Gradon/Calgary Herald

We must have the highest number of horse statues per capita in the world already...

[O-tacular]

We must have the highest number of horse statues per capita in the world already...

Yes. and the most indistinguishable number of horse statues. Honestly, how can this tripe be worth 2 million? I guess maybe the sheer volume of bronze, but what a waste.

[Sir.Humphrey.Appleby]

I am just glad that the Stampede is getting the horses out of their system for the first of the 10 pieces they plan to commission.

Comtemporary experimental art in the other 9 places please!

[Boris2k7]

At this point it is rather hard to expect much out of the Stampede. Let's see, we've got the horses and cowboys down so far, the new casino has bulls. Now we just need some chuckwagons, some more horses, a few natives (on horseback), a giant horseshoe, more horses, more horses, perhaps even a big statue of Stu Hart (or other Stampedish figure)...

Oh, and some more bloody horses.

[O-tacular]

#120 Yesterday, 11:36 AM
kyle_olsen
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I am just glad that the Stampede is getting the horses out of their system for the first of the 10 pieces they plan to commission.

Comtemporary experimental art in the other 9 places please!




Expect cowboys in space...

[O-tacular]

http://www.johnelkington.com/weblog/Calgary%20horse%20shadow.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/391681811_05562982ec.jpg?v=0

These are two examples of what I deem to be more contemporary and interesting sculptures of horses. It's not always the actual subject, but the execution that makes it interesting.

[Jimby]

the upside down church lights get turned on tonight for the first time

[Bigtime]

the upside down church lights get turned on tonight for the first time

I think I'll check that out. I was at that Chinese place across the street for lunch on Wednesday, the church looked real good with all the glass on it and the grass rising right up to the steeple.

[O-tacular]

I finally went to see it today. The device to root out evil is alot larger and more impressive in person. Very nice.
Still wondering though, if the Glenbow only has it for 5 years, will it even be there byt he time Ramsay Exchange is finished?

[newflyer]

At this point it is rather hard to expect much out of the Stampede. Let's see, we've got the horses and cowboys down so far, the new casino has bulls. Now we just need some chuckwagons, some more horses, a few natives (on horseback), a giant horseshoe, more horses, more horses, perhaps even a big statue of Stu Hart (or other Stampedish figure)...

Oh, and some more bloody horses.

Very good .. :haha:

[Jimby]

In-Definite Arts Society exhibit at Art Life on First Street


from the outside looking in at the opening party:

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From the website:
In-Definite Arts provides a community based creative arts program for over 180 artists who have developmental disabilities. With thirty-one years of service, the evolution of artistic expression at In-Definite Arts has touched the lives of many artists as well as their friends and families. This has been accomplished in an environment which is rich in color, comfort, camaraderie and creativity. These four elements are reflected in both the artistic expression of the artists and the social interaction of this welcoming community.

In a respectful and supportive space, artists communicate, experiment and express themselves through various chosen mediums: fiber arts, ceramics, woodworking, glass, jewelry, collage, sculpture, drawing and painting.

The name In-Definite Arts expresses the idea that the potential of all people is, in fact, “indefinite”. To this end, artists help each other on their collective but unique journeys toward expressing their indefinite potentials. These diverse histories, abilities and interests weave a rich tapestry - a common passion for art. There is no finite end for individual creativity and growth, so artists are encouraged to participate in our programs as long as they choose.

In-Definite Arts – a community of diversity, unity and self-expression.

In-Definite Arts recently received a Three Year Certification through the Alberta Council of Disability Services, meeting 100% of all standards of the Creating Excellence Together Survey. In addition, on three of the standards, In-Definite Arts received commendations.
http://www.indefinitearts.com

I serve on the board of this wonderful organization, and wish it was better known in the greater community.



I removed the other picture. I think you spoke volumes.

[Arriviste]

If you've got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. Thats what my mom always said, and I'm going to heed that advice.

[Wooster]

ummmm, yeah.

[Wooster]

Well we know Stephen Harper won't go dissing the arts again. :cool:

[Wooster]

Arts agency seeks $150M investment
Council urged to fund 15 facilities over next decade
Nancy Tousley, Calgary Herald
Published: Friday, October 17, 2008

Fifteen proposals that will change the landscape of the arts in Calgary are being championed by the Calgary Arts Development Authority.

Calgary lags behind other major cities per capita and in total in our inventory of arts facilities, the development authority's research shows.

"We know from our research that there could be nothing but development of arts space over the next three or four years and we would just be getting to a point where we were meeting the need," says Karen Ball, the authority's director of community investment.

The agency, an arms-length municipal arts authority, undertook a study of arts spaces in 2007. It found Calgary has not made significant investments in arts facilities in 20 years.

Existing performing arts facilities are operating to capacity, leaving no room for growth, and no significant arts facilities exist outside of the city centre, the report said.

To address this, the agency is advising council invest up to $150 million over the next decade. The recommendations will go to city council Nov. 5.

All 15 projects on the group's list are underway to some degree, Ball says. They will reach completion as early as next week -- when Lunchbox Theatre's new home opens -- and as far into the future as 2012.

The three big-ticket items at the top of the list, recommended for $25 million each in funding, are what the agency terms anchor spaces. These are large-scale projects that would transform the Cantos Music Foundation programs and collections into a national music centre and museum at the 1905 King Eddy Hotel; renew and expand the EPCOR Centre -- the city's flagship performing arts facility; and create a visual art pavilion for the Glenbow Museum, which in addition would be sited on city-owned land.

A dozen more projects, ranging from $70,000 to $10 million, include the creation of the International Avenue Arts and Culture Centre ($10 million), with theatres, a gallery and a restaurant, on 17th Avenue S.E. and the $5.4 million Decidedly Jazz Dance Centre, with a studio and classrooms.

Also proposed for funding:

- A festival hall for the Calgary Folk Music Festival Society ($600,000);

- Community Arts Centre, with facilities for StoryBook Theatre, Morpheus Theatre and Front Row Centre;

- The Media and Visual Arts Centre ($5 million), which would bring six artist-run centres for film, media arts and the visual arts under one roof in the historic Bell Block in the 1000 block of Macleod Trail S.E.;

- Expansion and relocation of the Mount Royal College Conservatory ($10.3 million);

- Expansion of the Rozsa Centre ($4.5 million).

The arts authority also recommending funding for a permanent home for the artist-run Stride Gallery ($300,000) and the relocation of the new Nickle Arts Museum in the Taylor Family Digital Library, both at the University of Calgary.

The 15 project recommendations total $122,780,000 -- to come from the $165-million Municipal Sustainability Initiative Funds earmarked for culture-related infrastructure. After being presented to council, the projects will be added to the Culture, Parks and Recreation Infrastructure Initiative Plan for further consideration. The earliest a proposal on this list can be approved is April 2009.

ntousley@theherald.canwest.com

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/city/story.html?id=34832d9e-5527-4f35-9bb3-f35a57005911


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This is obviously a huge step forward and are a badly, badly needed set of investments.

[jeffwhit]

Related to Bertie's post I have a fair amount of knowledge about the Epcor Centre that I am unable to share at this time unfortunately. However, it may not be news to anyone, but Theatre Calgary, the tenants of Max Bell theatre, which is the second largest venue in the centre, are actively searching for their own space outside of the centre and have explicitly stated they have no interest in staying there. They have opted out of any participation in the planning/visioning of the expansion/improvements.

[Bigtime]

Related to Bertie's post I have a fair amount of knowledge about the Epcor Centre that I am unable to share at this time unfortunately. However, it may not be news to anyone, but Theatre Calgary, the tenants of Max Bell theatre, which is the second largest venue in the centre, are actively searching for their own space outside of the centre and have explicitly stated they have no interest in staying there. They have opted out of any participation in the planning/visioning of the expansion/improvements.

Will Theatre Calgary still be looking to remain in the CBD or Beltline area?

[jeffwhit]

^^I don't know anybody at Theatre Calgary so I can't answer that, however, I really can't imagine an organization like that having any desire to go outside of the centre city. The curious thing is that that Epcor Centre's administration said that this has no serious impact on their plans. How that is possible I don't really know, I suspect it is just posturing on their part. The former Epcor Centre board gained a very bad reputation for ignoring the needs of their resident companies and being downright antagonistic. Now, the new board is trying to heal those wounds, but obviously the damage has been done with TC.

I suspect Max Bell will only be used for traveling musicals and broadway shows of a more commercial nature. I can't see another local theatre company coming in as a resident.

[mwalker_mw]

I'm very glad to see this funding spread over 15 separate, targeted, and hopefully, impactful projects.

Although counter to the title of the forum, I think this will be far more effective than trying to create one or two big landmark projects and then cramming organizations together in the interest of "Arts Centres". For artistic endeavors to have a greater impact on, and exposure to, the population as a whole these venues need to be spread out. They need to be easily accessible and 'in your face' no matter where you are.

I think TC moving away from Epcor would be a good thing in this regard - even if not very far, it still amounts to a new group of people with improved access to live theatre. I doubt, however, the Max Bell would make a very good roadhouse in a city the size of Calgary. Producers touring shows through here would be looking for larger venues - 750 seats doesn't cut it when you have 2500 at the Jube. Perhaps it would see some local interest as a rental venue, but even then, there are not that many companies that could afford it.

[jeffwhit]

^^Yeah, I'm afraid you're right about the Max being too small to be a roadhouse. Personally I'd like to see it converted into a small music hall, the seating could actually be increased to about 900. That won't happen though.

[mwalker_mw]

I'm thinking it might do okay as a venue for the mid-size dance companies (DJD), more intimate concerts, and possibly some experimental work from the larger companies (Calgary Opera, Alberta Ballet, etc.). It would be a big shift to managing it as a rental venue but might be possible.

I also wonder if the UofC might be a potential tenant from time to time once the urban campus is developed. If they end up in The Bow space there is good proximity and the current theatre facilities on campus are pretty limited for the size of the institution. I'm curious about how they plan to expand the Rosza centre as well - it is a great little concert hall as is, but I'm not sure how well it would grow. (or are they talking about additional rooms, rehearsal space and such?)

[mersar]

I'm curious about how they plan to expand the Rosza centre as well - it is a great little concert hall as is, but I'm not sure how well it would grow. (or are they talking about additional rooms, rehearsal space and such?)

I've only seen the quick description (http://www.calgaryartsdevelopment.com/ArtsSpaces08) from Calgary Arts Development:

University of Calgary, Faculty of Fine Arts: Rozsa Centre Expansion
An expansion of the Rozsa Centre with specialized amenities for dance that will continue to support
strong public use by providing much needed dance facilities and fulfill the original intentions for the building to be able to become a full service performing arts hub for the city.I'd be curious how they plan to achieve it, since the Rozsa Centre is surrounded pretty good now with only one little chunk of parking lot left beside it that could be expanded onto since I do believe the decision has been made to leave the road access running where the detour is, running right beside the building and leaving the parking lot on the other side. Though I could see some support for taking out the loop between it and the Theatre as part of the plan to get rid of most of the interior campus roads (which has been scaled back, but still has support) and building out onto where the road was.

[Jimby]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/2964997831_936018e0b0.jpg

[jeffwhit]

I've only seen the quick description (http://www.calgaryartsdevelopment.com/ArtsSpaces08) from Calgary Arts Development:

I'd be curious how they plan to achieve it, since the Rozsa Centre is surrounded pretty good now with only one little chunk of parking lot left beside it that could be expanded onto since I do believe the decision has been made to leave the road access running where the detour is, running right beside the building and leaving the parking lot on the other side. Though I could see some support for taking out the loop between it and the Theatre as part of the plan to get rid of most of the interior campus roads (which has been scaled back, but still has support) and building out onto where the road was.

There is enough room on the backside to make a significant expansion as well. The loop is likely though, it's a pretty useless little plot of land.

[Jimby]

at 14:33 on October 30, 2008, EDT.
By Nick Patch, THE CANADIAN PRESS


Women is among a batch of buzz-worthy Calgary bands signalling that a city centred on country music could be shuffling in another direction.
In the midst of a two-month, eight-country tour with his band, Women, there's one question Pat Flegel frequently encounters and he relishes answering it.

So, where are you from?

"People just say: 'What the hell, you're from Calgary?"' he says. "I'm totally into that. It's kind of nice to be from nowhere."

He'd better cherish it while he can.

Women is among a batch of buzz-worthy Calgary bands signalling that a city long associated with country music could be shuffling in another direction.

The past few years have seen the accolades roll in and bands roll out - on prestigious international indie labels and multi-continental tours. There's Chad VanGaalen, a Juno and Polaris award nominee who recently released his third record, "Soft Airplane. Or decorated chanteuse Leslie Feist, who spent in formative years in Cowtown and recently performed at the Nobel Peace Prize concert in Oslo, Norway.

Flegel's Women, meanwhile, released their self-titled debut stateside in October to glittering reviews. A spirited show at New York's CMJ festival even earned praise in the New York Times, where the band was lauded for its "expansive, musicianly progressive rock."

Yet a stigma about Calgary remains.

Nicknamed "Nashville of the North" for its entrenched country-music scene, Calgary is still mostly associated with cowboy hats, conservatism and the rodeo - in other words, it's known more for bareback than feedback.

"I spent the summer in Montreal, and every time I mentioned I was from Calgary, people responded, 'I'm sorry,"' said Marc Rimmel, who plays guitars and keyboards in Calgary experimental outfit Azeda Booth. "(I wish) people knew the music and the art scene, and the sort of culture that's going on there."

Adds VanGaalen: "People kind of hate you. Or they're just like, 'no good music comes from Calgary."'

After five years of owning a rock club in the city, Zak Pashak is familiar with that sentiment. He says Calgary doesn't exactly have the cachet of a certified-cool indie hotbed like Montreal.

"There are some great Calgary bands that are maybe even a bit ashamed of being from Calgary," says Pashak, 28. "There is still that perception of Calgary as being sort of backwards, a hick town."

Pashak is working diligently to change that. He owns Broken City, a "little pub with an eight-inch stage" that boasts upcoming dates with bands such as Land of Talk and the Bicycles.

He's also director of Sled Island, a two-year-old Calgary event that is fast becoming one of the premiere music festivals in Canada. The fest has drawn such stalwarts as Spoon, Yo La Tengo, Mogwai, RZA, Of Montreal and Cat Power. Venerable British art-punkers Wire headlined this year, and frontman Colin Newman will curate the next edition.

Pashak is quick to point out that a strong Calgary rock scene isn't necessarily new, but subject to cycles. He notes that local bands such as Chixdiggit and the Primrods had some success in the 1990s.

But the experimental strain of Calgary's recent wave is indeed new, and Pashak credits VanGaalen for invigorating the scene.

While VanGaalen is quick to deflect credit - "I have kind of kept my distance from any sort of scene," he says - he also remembers a time when the city wasn't so progressive.

While in college, VanGaalen was troubled by Calgary's lack of an avant-garde scene. So he and collaborator Eric Hamelin set out to bring a little noise to the Prairie boomtown.

They couldn't get gigs in clubs, so they performed at community centres and anywhere else that would have them.

"It was horrible," VanGaalen recalls. "We were playing to hockey moms and their seven-year-olds that just got out of hockey practice. More just to freak people out.

"I would play a broken alto saxophone with a microphone down the bell, going into a ring modulator. Eric's playing a bunch of trash we collected over the last week, playing it like drums.

"These people hated us."

But before long, they found kindred spirits. With help from faculty at the Alberta College of Art and Design, VanGaalen and friends would put on shows in stairwells and other tucked-away parts of campus. Soon, other local experimental and improvisational artists emerged out of the woodwork.

Still, VanGaalen says there was "no audience" for what they were doing.

"Maybe a couple art kids who were convinced to show up, and our girlfriends," he says.

But VanGaalen sees a different Calgary now.

"There's way more acceptance for that kind of stuff going on," he says. "Now we're all in pop bands and we're trying to sneakily inject that kind of music into our pop music."

Today, the city's best bands are wrapping ambient noise around their tunes like a woollen scarf. Azeda Booth plays ethereal dream pop, carried by the strikingly feminine falsetto of male singer Jordan Hossack. Women's record, which VanGaalen produced, juxtaposes accessible guitar-rock with noisy, sometimes meandering dissonance.

VanGaalen wants the city to do more to support its burgeoning arts scene. He has long been concerned about the lack of affordable studio space in the city, which he says has many of his musician friends "constantly on the verge of leaving."

"Whoever plans this town is just insane," he says. "They can't be a human, obviously. The downtown turns into a ghost town at night, there's barely any nightlife going on."

Yet VanGaalen was born and raised in the city and, his myriad frustrations aside, he says he can't imagine leaving.

He sees a potential in Calgary that's only in the earliest stages of realization.

"Things are just becoming a lot more accessible, and a lot more people are moving here from outside, and they want to know where cool things are," he says. "Now there's a demand for it, whereas it was a little insulated before. Now that we've hit a million people, the city's going a little bit sour. We're kind of smelling the funk a little bit.

"There's just way more possibilities now."


©The Canadian Press, 2008

[jeffwhit]

What I don't understand is outside of Nashville North at Stampede, where is this supposed dominance of country music taking place?

[Boris2k7]

Uhhhh... okay.

The metal scene has been quite healthy for a number of years.

[Bigtime]

We're known as the Nashville of the North?

I wonder if the reporter just heard about Nashville North at the Stampede and ran with that?

Dumb.

"Whoever plans this town is just insane," he says. "They can't be a human, obviously. The downtown turns into a ghost town at night, there's barely any nightlife going on."

Uhhhhhhhhhh, I'm going to go smack my head into a wall. People really need to start seeing the difference between our commercial core and surrounding inner city communities that are full of life in the evenings.

[mwalker_mw]

Transit Thread Tangent:

Conversation root:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=3887876&postcount=6421

Originally posted by Freewad

Originally Posted by mwalker_mw
Unfortunately, keeping these works manageable and distinguishing what is art and what is simply a vandal's tag or may be an impossible task


Or an incredibly easy one. If you have permission to create the work (or ownership of the property you're putting it on), it's not vandalism, it's art. And vice-versa. Well, it can still be art, as well as vandalism. I may find artistic expression in fire-bombing city hall (would make a hell of a movie) but I still deserve punishment and rehabilitation for my actions.

Dress it up in whatever fancy rebellious "society keeps us down" words you like, but that's the entire enchilada.

Nice lego train. Be a shame if anyone were to tag it.

Your definition is absolute, certainly, but I'm not sure if I agree with it. I personally would choose art to be anything that benefits the space and vandalism to be anything that detracts. Firebombing city hall probably falls into the later category - but who knows... if done right. The vast majority of the urban canvas is owned by corporations who have little interest in taking risks to improve the lives of the individuals milling around their buildings. Sure, they'll throw in a sculpture here and there, a nice garden perhaps; but they won't make you laugh, or smile, or think, or cry, as even the simplest action might risk offending someone - and that wouldn't be good for the shareholders.

I certainly agree that property must be respected - but I am a huge fan of works that are done without permission but on a temporary basis. They stay up long enough to make a statement and then disappear into peoples minds, photographs and videos. I'd love to see great and interesting works done with permission - but I just don't see that happening around here anytime soon.

[Xelebes]

What I don't understand is outside of Nashville North at Stampede, where is this supposed dominance of country music taking place?

Like in Edmonton, the largest bars are country-music themed, if not sport themed. They're often not in the suave parts of town, but dominate the peripheries much so. You will be hard pressed to find them in the downtown or entertainment districts and they often hang low. You'll find a lot of people come into the city for these bars.

[jeffwhit]

Like in Edmonton, the largest bars are country-music themed, if not sport themed. They're often not in the suave parts of town, but dominate the peripheries much so. You will be hard pressed to find them in the downtown or entertainment districts and they often hang low. You'll find a lot of people come into the city for these bars.

Sorry, I meant in terms of live performance.

[Wooster]

Think you're angry over the $25-million bridge too far? How about $165 million for various arts projects?

By MICHAEL PLATT

It's a bit like having a fit over the Timex watch, while ignoring the Harry Winston diamond tiara.

Call it the Bridge Too Far, the Overpriced Overpass, or just a waste of freakin' money, the $25-million pedestrian bridge over the Bow River has become the catalyst for taxpayer fury in this city.

With a 22% property tax hike looming, just as the economy is coming in with the landing gear missing, the bridge is a hated symbol of overspending by city council...


http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Platt_Michael/2008/11/04/7297356-sun.php

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The word anger doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about this article.

[mersar]

The word anger doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about this article.

Wow... just wow. I'm with you on that.

[You Need A Thneed]

^^ Calgary would likely NEVER recover from such a pullback in arts funding.

[Arriviste]

Wow... just wow. I'm with you on that.

I am speechless....
Thats got to be a first. I seriously want to smash some faces after reading that article. Its a god damned shame that people have such a low appreciation for what the arts brings to the community at large.

[240glt]

It's the Calgary Sun. I don't understand why any of you are at all suprised by this article. Count on this type of rhetoric from that trashy rag to continue as Calgary grapples with some hefty tax increases.

[Wooster]

^ True. Not sure why we should expect much else. Unfortunately there is a share of the population that probably agrees.

On the other hand, I am quite sure this funding will have no problem moving through.

[O-tacular]

More evidence of how little progress this city has made...

Quote:
Tue, November 4, 2008

Think you're angry over the $25-million bridge too far? How about $165 million for various arts projects?
UPDATED: 2008-11-04 04:50:47 MST


Too bad people like Michael Platt still seem to hold so much sway in this "metropolitan" city. Anything their small minds cannot immediately grasp the purpose of is deemed pointless. Things can;t be beautiful for beauty's sake, or intelligent, or boundary pushing. Unless it has an obvious function it's considered frivolous. Amazing how art is still considered to be a luxury and not an integral part of society in this day and age.

Oh, and it;s called the "Arts Fund" for a reason!!! Stupid twat!:hell: :hell: :hell:

[Wooster]

More evidence of how little progress this city has made...


I don't know about that. The fact that the City decided to set aside $165 million for arts is big progress.

[O-tacular]

That's true. But the fact that assholes like Michael Platt still garner enough readership to justify their positions also points to a city of people who are tragically uninformed about the big scary "Arts". As much as this city is progressing... it's like pulling teeth. There is still a huge portion of the population that is of rural or outdated stock.

[Wooster]

Well, the Toronto Sun has equally idiotic rants in its paper. So I suppose the same thing could be said about Toronto's population?

[O-tacular]

Comparisons and finer points aside... you're from Calgary correct? There is no way that you could look me in the eye and say that this city is not mostly run and populated by people of a conservative, practical breed who have a hard time understanding the purpose of non-utilitarian things. There is a very status quo feeling in the air itself.

[O-tacular]

Sadly, I agree with part of what he's saying... But oh how I'd love to throw Michael Platt off a building.

While dance studios and theatres are set to cash in, the city chequebook is closed for Calgary's Public Library
UPDATED: 2008-11-06 02:56:33 MST



By MICHAEL PLATT




My favourite lines in here would have to be

a)"The central library downtown would embarrass a city half Calgary's size -- it was built for a town of 400,000 people, at a time when Soviet-style drabbery was all the rage in building design. "

And what would he have us build with his proposed shoe string construction budgets? Surely his version of the 'unnecessary' pedestrian bridge wouldn't at all look like that... Not to mention the future library I'm sure he will complain about:koko:

b)"Yet the same council happily spends money on luxuries like arts, the money taken out of a $3.3-billion provincial grant intended to provide tax relief for Calgarians."

Just what I said before... to him the arts are just a luxury for the rich. Forget about public art, galleries or performances, only the rich "fine Bordeaux" sipping elite can experience art.
F-ing RIDICULOUS!!!! :hell: I doubt Michale Platt has ever been outside the shit neighbourhood that threw him up on the rest of Calgary.

[MichaelS]

Just out of curiosity, how expensive are tickets to performances at Epcor centre? I went to a few plays there back in 2005, but for the life of me can't remember what I paid. Although I am thinking that it couldn't have been that outrageous (I am not rich by any means). Is this something that is truly beyond the reach of the "common people"?

[jeffwhit]

^^ I can't speak for the theatres, but a rush ticket to the CPO costs $12.

[mwalker_mw]

Just out of curiosity, how expensive are tickets to performances at Epcor centre? I went to a few plays there back in 2005, but for the life of me can't remember what I paid. Although I am thinking that it couldn't have been that outrageous (I am not rich by any means). Is this something that is truly beyond the reach of the "common people"?

For ATP and TC they are in the $30 - $80 range depending on where you sit but even the 'cheap seats' are perfectly acceptable. They have discounts for seniors, youth and students as well. The smaller spaces see $20 - $40 prices depending on the show. They vary somewhat based on the cost of mounting the particular production.

Altogether quite affordable when you consider what a ticket to the Flames or Stamps costs for example.

[O-tacular]

Be wary, a lurker is among us.... and his name is Michael Platt.

BTW, if you're looking for more material for your next article Mr. Platt, go to the Calgary construction thread.

[ScottFromCalgary]

Congratulations Mr. Platt, you're status on here has almost reached David Parker levels! You still have a ways to go to reach Dr. No though...

[jeffwhit]

Platt is a liar. He didn't even quote people correctly. Arriviste never threatened to smash his face, just "faces."

I would like to challenge Michael Platt to fight.

[Bigtime]

Congratulations Mr. Platt, you're status on here has almost reached David Parker levels! You still have a ways to go to reach Dr. No though...

Although we all poke fun at Parker for his love of parking lots, I think the majority of us don't have any real issue with him. Heck he has even beaten us to the punch on some new developments!

Jeff: Don't bring a cello to a knife fight! :haha:

[jeffwhit]

Jeff: Don't bring a cello to a knife fight! :haha:

Beating him with my giant art stick would have poetry though.

[Arriviste]

Fact checking, I recommend it.
I love how he misconstrued the facts to fit his agenda. Really shows his level of professionalism. It's a shame he can't decipher a sarcastic comment directed at no one, from a personal attack.

[Arriviste]

Beating him with my giant art stick would have poetry though.


Watch out Jeff! You might end up in Platt's next article.
I'm furious. He really has no concept of journalistic integrity.

[Wooster]

You should also email his editor or publisher. They might not be too happy about this breach in professional ethics. He accused you of wanting to incite violence against him personally as a way to sell his political agenda.

[Arriviste]

You should also email his editor or publisher. They might not be too happy about this breach in professional ethics. He accused you of wanting to incite violence against him personally as a way to sell his political agenda.

Absolutely. I am calling this morning actually. This was a HUGE mistake on his part.

[Arriviste]

E-mails have been sent!
I implore you fellow forumers to send similarly strongly worded e-mails to both Platt, and his editor Dave Naylor. We need to overload his e-mail with our opinions, otherwise I am fearful he will continue to manipulate facts to fit his agenda.

dave.naylor@calgarysun.com
michael.platt@calgarysun.com

He is an unethical journalist and does not deserve to hold a position intended to fairly inform the public. It's despicable actually.


BLUESPENNY aka Platt is lurking right now. Pathetic.


Here is my email to his editor:

Dear Mr. Naylor,
I wanted to bring to your attention the despicable level of journalistic
integrity of one of your columnists.
Michael Platt wrote an editorial entitled "Theatrics aplenty over taxes"
a few days ago which, much to my dismay, misconstrued, and altered
something that I, and others had been speaking about on an internet forum
entitled skyscraperpage.com. He blatantly disregards fact in an attempt to
further his political agenda by manipulating something that had been
written. In the following link
(http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=152316&page=8), it
becomes clear that what is written was purely hyperbole, a concept
obviously not taught to Mr. Platt while studying to be a journalist.
Either he is exceptionally unqualified to be a journalist, or is a liar
who will go to any length to appear as though he is not erroneous.
I implore you to make him accountable for his actions. He is in breach of
journalistic responsibility, and the public has a right to be aware.
Someone in such a position should not alter facts in an attempt to
further their intention. That is dishonest, and sloppy journalism.
Please contact me back. I fully intend to have Mr. Platt held responsible.
I and other forumers deserve apologies for the ultimately slanderous
methods used by Mr. Platt. He has unfairly painted us as "elitist bigots"
to use his exact words, by altering the truth and ultimately falsifying
statements made. I am appalled that your organization knowingly employs
journalists who take so little care, and responsibility with the enormous
task of informing the public that they have been entrusted with.
Sincerely,
-Arriviste



PLEASE add to it, edit it, resend it. This guy needs a lesson.... not just an English lesson on figurative language either. Although that would help.
He has yet to respond to my e-mail which is amusing, and frustrating. Perhaps one of you will have better luck.

[Wooster]

Letter sent.


http://www.caj.ca/principles/principles-statement-2002.htm

[Ilex]

Here's a proper photo of the David Cerny fountain I was trying to show before. It's called metalmorphosis and it kinda has the same idea as that cool proposed dynamic tower in Dubai.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1189/1430230503_1ac67b686d.jpg?v=0
I...I think I just came. Where is this work of art located?

[Wooster]

^ Oh my goodness.

It's quite a piece, I like it.

I'm just ecstatic that Calgary's getting a Jaume Plensa (or two) at the Bow. That's a HUGE get. As big a get in the art world as Foster in the architectural world.

Wonder when that will be revealed?

By the way, it was a Michael Platt article (http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Platt_Michael/2008/06/16/5890296-sun.php) that broke this story. He seemed himself quite excited about the prospect of this. He seems to simultaneously boost art/architecture and deride it. What's the deal Platt? Come talk to us!



http://petanqueandpastis.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/2007/11/15/img0017_la_grande_nomade.jpg

http://www.lynnbecker.com/repeat/Gehry/plensa2.jpg

[ScottFromCalgary]

By the way, it was a Michael Platt article (http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Platt_Michael/2008/06/16/5890296-sun.php) that broke this story. He seemed himself quite excited about the prospect of this. He seems to simultaneously boost art/architecture and deride it. What's the deal Platt? Come talk to us!


Mr. Platt responded to one of my previous emails this morning with this:



I think dialogue and debate are the best part of my job, whether people agree with me or not.
The irony, before the whole "no fat left to trim" tax hike came up, I was the one telling rick bell he was a shortsighted pinhead for opposing the bridges.
Anyway keep writing
My guess is our views are closer when taxes aren't in the way

Maybe he is trying to make peace. I'm glad I'm not the one who pissed off Arriviste!

[davee930]

Kinda reminds me of Bill O'Reilly

[O-tacular]

I...I think I just came. Where is this work of art located?


Check out this link for details. My personal favourite of his has to be the giant babies he adorned an old radio tower in Prague with.
http://www.davidcerny.cz/start.html

[MichaelS]

By the way, it was a Michael Platt article (http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Platt_Michael/2008/06/16/5890296-sun.php) that broke this story. He seemed himself quite excited about the prospect of this. He seems to simultaneously boost art/architecture and deride it. What's the deal Platt? Come talk to us!



To be fair to Platt, I don't think he is against good architecture or art. He is simply against public funding for them at a time when tax hikes are needed for more "essential" services. I am not 100% sure, but I take it the sculptures at the Bow will be privately funded?

[O-tacular]

:previous: What he tells us and what his old articles represent certainly supports that. But my biggest grievance with MP is the polarizing language he uses to try and incite a mob. He refers to those who appreciate the arts as "fine Bordeaux" sipping elitists who spend their time listening to Bach and burning 100$ bills. BTW I am a poor recently graduated art student, so don't tell me only the rich can experience art!

[Bigtime]

I have many a money fight with nothing less than $20 bills.

[O-tacular]

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Do you also use them to light cigars?

[Bigtime]

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Do you also use them to light cigars?

Nope, I use $50's for that... :cool:

[Arriviste]

:previous: What he tells us and what his old articles represent certainly supports that. But my biggest grievance with MP is the polarizing language he uses to try and incite a mob. He refers to those who appreciate the arts as "fine Bordeaux" sipping elitists who spend their time listening to Bach and burning 100$ bills. BTW I am a poor recently graduated art student, so don't tell me only the rich can experience art!

I'm in the same boat! BFA, and poor as a result.
I might be an elitist (that was a joke Platt, in case you are looking for more ammo), but I'm sure as hell not sipping Bordeaux or burning Benjamin's to light cigars.
Might make for the beginnings of an interesting performance piece though...

[O-tacular]

Might make for the beginnings of an interesting performance piece though...

HAHA!:haha:

But you'd have to light the 100$ 's only to burn his articles.:banana:

[Arriviste]

HAHA!:haha:

But you'd have to light the 100$ 's only to burn his articles.:banana:

Lets collaborate! Maybe we will get into the Sun for less (or more depending on your view on art is) dubious reasons.

[O-tacular]

Sounds like a plan! First we'll need to get very wasted and make sure that there's someone with a camera to capture it on tape.

[Bigtime]

Sounds like a plan! First we'll need to get very wasted and make sure that there's someone with a camera to capture it on tape.

Our get together on the 29th? :D

[O-tacular]

Perfect!:cool:

BTW what time will it be at and on what day?

[Bigtime]

Here is all the info, you can always check in on the 'Calgary Forum Meets Thread' for any updates as we get closer.

The 3rd Annual Calgary SSP Winter Shitfaced Funfest!!
"We put the faced in Shitfaced or How I learned to stop worrying and love NIMBYS."


When: Saturday, November 29th, 2008
Where: Original Joes on Stephen Avenue (just west of centre street)
Start time: 6-7pm?

The Flames are playing Vancouver at the Dome at 8pm, we can watch the game as well*

All are welcome! :cheers:

*Except Canucks fans, you suck...just kidding you can come too!
**Ric McIvor is not allowed
***Please bring a girl if you know one, these things are always huuuuuge sausage parties!

[O-tacular]

Sounds awesome. About the 3rd *.... has a single girl ever come for one of these? I'd bring my fiance, only I'm not sure if she'd enjoy hanging out with a group of architecture loving nerds like us while watching a hockey game (a sport she hates). If others bring their significant others maybe she'd have someone to commiserate with.

[Bigtime]

Sounds awesome. About the 3rd *.... has a single girl ever come for one of these? I'd bring my fiance, only I'm not sure if she'd enjoy hanging out with a group of architecture loving nerds like us while watching a hockey game (a sport she hates). If others bring their significant others maybe she'd have someone to commiserate with.

My wife may come (however she is dealing with some mild sickness due to biological things ;) ), but it is day to day.

If she has a passing interest in discussing urban things and architecture she would probably have a good time. Also it isn't the only thing we talk about the whole night, usually the drink steers the conversation all over the place.

[O-tacular]

My wife may come (however she is dealing with some mild sickness due to biological things ), but it is day to day.



Congratulations BigTime! :cheers:

So, I'm guessing I would probably be the youngest one there (I'm 25). Everyone else on here seems to be able to afford condos and houses and I'm still trying to get on my feet now that I'm done school.

[Bigtime]

Congratulations BigTime! :cheers:

So, I'm guessing I would probably be the youngest one there (I'm 25). Everyone else on here seems to be able to afford condos and houses and I'm still trying to get on my feet now that I'm done school.

Actually I don't think 25 will make you the youngest. We cover quite a spread in ages on this forum!

[Arriviste]

I'm younger than you O, and you might not guess it, but Boris is younger than I. So you won't be the youngest by any stretch. I don't even know if I'm going to be able to make it actually.
Anyway, how do you think tomorrows Sun is going to look?

Wooster, I totally agree that we are quite lucky to get a Plensa piece. Although not my favorite contemporary sculpture, he is definitely an exceptional talent.

Scott, don't worry! I'd never get mad at you. Unlike some forumers (well 1 only comes to mind) you don't manipulate facts to pursue your agenda.

[jeffwhit]

I don't believe this has been posted yet. It's a video describing the 15 Arts Infrastructure projects that the $162 Million from the city will be going to fund:

http://vimeo.com/2184446

[skrish]

I don't believe this has been posted yet. It's a video describing the 15 Arts Infrastructure projects that the $162 Million from the city will be going to fund:

http://vimeo.com/2184446

Very cool Jeff, thanks for posting. The National Music Centre of Canada concept sounds very promising.

[Wooster]

Looks great. I really like what Calgary Arts Development is doing. Fantastic.

[Jimby]

Marilyn is in town tomorrow

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj184/lumin8_bucket/cid_012201c951afd30386400300a8c0AXI.jpg

November 29, 2008 - January 5, 2009

AXIS contemporary art (Art Central) presents

Douglas Kirkland

An Evening

with Marilyn



Opening Reception Saturday, November 29th from 1 – 4pm.



Also Opening this Saturday,

Marilyn, Life as a Legend at the Glenbow Museum



View a documentary about Photographer

Douglas Kirkland at



http://www.finearttv.tv/en/fine-art/portrait/douglas-kirkland-living-legend



Axis presents fifteen low edition, signed archival photographs that tell the story of a rare encounter in 1961 between a young Canadian photographer and the most famous movie star in the world.

Beverly Hills, California on a November evening in 1961 a young photographer from Look Magazine waited for the subject of his assignment to arrive in a small garden apartment. His subject, the most famous movie star of the day, the goddess, Marilyn Monroe. 47 years later the photographs taken by Douglas Kirkland that evening are among the most intimate and engaging portraits of one of the worlds most photographed women. AXIS Contemporary Art is happy to be the first Canadian gallery to host this extraordinary exhibition.

Born in Fort Erie, Ontario, Douglas Kirkland’s career as an award-wining photographer spans five decades and six continents. His subjects have ranged from glamorous stars like Lauren Bacall and Barbra Streisand, rock stars such as Mick Jagger and Sting, to fashion icons Coco Chanel and Pierre Cardin. Through working at Look magazine in the 1960s and Life magazine in the 1970s he began his career photographing the most famous actors and actresses on and off set.

Douglas Kirkland was an apprentice to Irving Penn and started his career at Look and Life magazine in the 1960s and 1970s during the golden age of photojournalism. He has worked on the set of over 100 motion pictures including 2001: Space Odyssey, Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid, Moulin Rouge!, Out of Africa, Titanic and Australia and his iconic images of Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor, Jack Nicholson, Angelina Jolie and John Travolta (in the dance sequence from Saturday Night Fever), among others, are known all over the world.

Kirkland’s fine art photography has been exhibited worldwide and he is a sought after lecturer. He is a member of the prestigious Hewlett Packard’s Photo Influencers and Canon’s Explorers of Light as well as an associate member of the American Society of Cinematography. He has received many awards; most recently the Lifetime Achievement Award from CAPIC in his native Toronto, Canada and The Golden Eye Russia, both in 2006, as well as a Lucie Award for Outstanding Achievement in Entertainment Photography in 2003. Among his books are Light Years, Legends and An Evening with Marilyn. When he is not traveling the globe on assignment with his wife and business partner Francoise, he spends time at his home and studio in the Hollywood Hills.