realcity
Jun 19, 2008, 2:10 PM
I did some research at the Central Library Archives. I could not find evidence that the King William bldg was his, but it did exhibit some Balfouresque features. If it was originally used for industry it's likely it didn't get noticed as his commercial and residential buildings got more attention.
Some of his buildings
- Treble Hall
- Bell Telephone Bldg (now LIUNA offices)
- Erskine Presbyterian Church
- old Hamilton City Hall (destroyed)
- YMCA corner of James and Jackson - site of new shitbox (destroyed)
- Ballinahinch
- Ravenscliffe
- Tucket Mansion (now Scottish Rite)
- Tucket Tobacco Factory on York Blvd (destroyed) this building looks most like the King William building only was larger.
- 250 James South (opp. St. Joes ER)
- 230 James South
- 268 James South
- 274 Bay South
- 280 Bay South
- 93 MacNab
- 252-262 MacNab N
- 42-46 Herkimer
- 121-125 Markland
highwater
Jun 19, 2008, 2:29 PM
Wow. Thanks. I had no idea all those buildings were his.
raisethehammer
Jun 19, 2008, 3:36 PM
amazing....tell Dreschel to shed some crocodile tears over that list.
We really are blessed that the entire historic core hasn't been destroyed with the clowns we've had at city hall and media that has been polluting the minds of readers for decades.
realcity
Jun 19, 2008, 4:15 PM
I saw a pic of the old YMCA, absolutely beautiful! Almost as big a shame as the Birks Building. Does anyone know if it's in those books about old Hamilton buildings.... "missing Hamilton" or something like that. Saw it at Mixed Media once.
raisethehammer
Jun 19, 2008, 4:43 PM
yup, it's in there. It was awesome....as was the old central terminal.
astroblaster
Jun 19, 2008, 5:08 PM
awesome list, realcity
FairHamilton
Jun 20, 2008, 1:23 AM
I saw a pic of the old YMCA, absolutely beautiful! Almost as big a shame as the Birks Building. Does anyone know if it's in those books about old Hamilton buildings.... "missing Hamilton" or something like that. Saw it at Mixed Media once.
My wife had two books she ordered, FOOTSTEPS IN TIME, Exploring Hamilton's Heritage Neighbourhoods Vol 1 & 2 delivered today. I just took a quick look through v1 and it's depressing to see what is now gone.................
Millstone
Jun 20, 2008, 1:49 AM
My wife had two books she ordered, FOOTSTEPS IN TIME, Exploring Hamilton's Heritage Neighbourhoods Vol 1 & 2 delivered today. I just took a quick look through v1 and it's depressing to see what is now gone.................
I'm pretty much interested in all these books, wish I had the money. http://www.canadianheritagebooks.com/page3.html
astroblaster
Jun 20, 2008, 1:55 AM
the Footsteps books are amazing.. i can't get enough of them.
vanished hamilton series is also very cool
I am working on getting the "prints" ones too.. but so far i only have the "prints of king"..
now i'm sort of low on funds
FairHamilton
Jun 20, 2008, 2:01 AM
I'm pretty much interested in all these books, wish I had the money. http://www.canadianheritagebooks.com/page3.html
Christmas and Birthday lists :D
astroblaster
Jun 20, 2008, 2:02 AM
I saw a pic of the old YMCA, absolutely beautiful! Almost as big a shame as the Birks Building. Does anyone know if it's in those books about old Hamilton buildings.... "missing Hamilton" or something like that. Saw it at Mixed Media once.
I don't see it in any of the Vanished Hamilton books
But I just found it in Footsteps volume 1.. page 111
flar
Jun 20, 2008, 2:07 AM
Central library has dozens of books about Hamilton.
matt602
Jun 20, 2008, 2:52 AM
Specifically you'd want to hit up the Special Collections department.
FairHamilton
Jun 20, 2008, 8:14 PM
The building on the northeast corner of Adelaide & Spadina in Toronto is called the Balfour Building. I wonder if there's any connection?
realcity
Jun 21, 2008, 12:56 AM
James Balfour did do some buildings in Toronto, St. Thomas, Detroit and Niagara Falls. He bid on the Toronto City Hall but lost. It's possible that it is his building at Spadina and Adelaide.
Alma College, St. Thomas by James Balfour
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-College-aerial.jpg?t=1214009649
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-College-by-James-Balfour.gif?t=1214009695
http://k43.pbase.com/v3/23/309923/2/46084935.websizedIMG_5888.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/v3/23/309923/2/46084917.websizedIMG_5783.jpg
what a loss -- recently burned down, "demolition by neglect"
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-fire2.jpg?t=1214009749
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-fire.jpg?t=1214009764
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-smoke-creditStThomasTimes-J.jpg?t=1214009783
"Crocodile Tears" Andrew Dreschel? I know you read this.
It was a gorgeous building. Balfouresque design features included, a blend of Gothic Revival and Second Empire, Mansard Roof with gabled dormers, combined with dramatic steep roof pitches on the peaks, variety of textures, brick construction (no steel frame that came later in 19c/20c) with cut stone skirting (usually from Port Credit and brick from Beamsville), keystoning, and tall narrow windows framed with lighter stone and arched tops. It even had mini-flying buttresses, because it didn't have a steel frame and a height like Alma College had would need the support at the lower level. And an attention to details and embellishments without being garish.
This building was on the watch list of Heritage Ontario Buildings for years. It appears the owners finally get rid of it.... the fire was deemed 'suspicious'. It should make a good location for a Best Buy.
http://www.ontarioheritageconnection.org/live/main.php?page=news.200604_a.html
http://lfpress.ca/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?x=articles&p=198846&s=politics
watch it burn on youtube
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6bESrThA7SY&feature=related
realcity
Jun 21, 2008, 12:59 AM
this better not give LIUNA any ideas
FairHamilton
Jun 21, 2008, 2:20 AM
James Balfour did do some buildings in Toronto, St. Thomas, Detroit and Niagara Falls. He bid on the Toronto City Hall but lost. It's possible that it is his building at Spadina and Adelaide.
Alma College, St. Thomas by James Balfour
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-College-aerial.jpg?t=1214009649
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-College-by-James-Balfour.gif?t=1214009695
http://k43.pbase.com/v3/23/309923/2/46084935.websizedIMG_5888.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/v3/23/309923/2/46084917.websizedIMG_5783.jpg
what a loss -- recently burned down, "demolition by neglect"
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-fire2.jpg?t=1214009749
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-fire.jpg?t=1214009764
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/theshawsphotos/cities/Alma-smoke-creditStThomasTimes-J.jpg?t=1214009783
"Crocodile Tears" Andrew Dreschel? I know you read this.
It was a gorgeous building. Balfouresque design features included, a blend of Gothic Revival and Second Empire, Mansard Roof with gabled dormers, combined with dramatic steep roof pitches on the peaks, variety of textures, brick construction (no steel frame that came later in 19c/20c) with cut stone skirting (usually from Port Credit and brick from Beamsville), keystoning, and tall narrow windows framed with lighter stone and arched tops. It even had mini-flying buttresses, because it didn't have a steel frame and a height like Alma College had would need the support at the lower level. And an attention to details and embellishments without being garish.
This building was on the watch list of Heritage Ontario Buildings for years. It appears the owners finally get rid of it.... the fire was deemed 'suspicious'. It should make a good location for a Best Buy.
http://www.ontarioheritageconnection.org/live/main.php?page=news.200604_a.html
http://lfpress.ca/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?x=articles&p=198846&s=politics
watch it burn on youtube
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6bESrThA7SY&feature=related
Very much a tragedy, but I believe they arrested a couple of teens for setting the fire. I won't dispute demolition by neglect, but let's not fuel rumours the owners were responsible for 'arranging' the fire (OK that was my first thought when I heard the news, but simply not true).
realcity
Jun 21, 2008, 2:24 AM
"fuel" being the key word. I don't know how a vacant building of stone and brick burns so much.
flar
Jun 21, 2008, 2:36 AM
Those old buildings are full of wood, all the floors, the roof, doors, stairways, etc. I've seen pictures of a huge fire in a magnificent old school in Hamilton, I forget what it was called, but the building was amazing.
the dude
Jun 21, 2008, 3:38 AM
^hamilton collegiate. corner of hunter and wellington, before the claremont access was built.
itsbryan
Jun 23, 2008, 4:10 PM
Very much a tragedy, but I believe they arrested a couple of teens for setting the fire. I won't dispute demolition by neglect, but let's not fuel rumours the owners were responsible for 'arranging' the fire (OK that was my first thought when I heard the news, but simply not true).
Pictures don't do Alma justice.. it was a must-see. I had the honor of seeing it a more or two before it burned down.. and it was awe-inspiring.
And yes, a 15 and 16 year old were responsible.. which wasn't surprising. When I was there, there were a group of preteens and early teens throwing rocks at the building, and trying to rip off the boards that kept people out.
During the fire, and in the aftermath, a friend of mine watched with a large group of St. Thomas residents as the fire department put out the rest of the embers.. he overheard idiotic teens joking around saying "he's the one who burned it down!" and pointing to his friends. They were also bragging about how they were in it the morning it burned.
And yes, as flar stated, the entire interior was wood. Everything from the staircases, and window frames.. the entire building was gutted, and the wood beginning to decay.. it's a shame, because it was essentially a hollow shell of a building, which would have been ideal for reuse.
fastcarsfreedom
Jun 25, 2008, 3:46 AM
The Alma College fire was an incredible tragedy. My adopted city of Windsor was home to a breathtaking building called St. Mary's Academy which was destroyed in the 1970s by demolition--if you're interested there are some shots online--including--sadly, those of it's implosion.
Interesting that Balfour did work in Detroit--I will have to do some investigating.
fastcarsfreedom
Jun 25, 2008, 3:52 AM
Investigating complete--he's credited by buildingsofdetroit.com as having been responsible for the original home of the forerunner of the Detroit Institute of Arts in 1887--since demolished.
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