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wisla_krakow
07-10-2008, 07:02 AM
praise peak oil! what most here have been preaching for the longest time is finally coming to!

Suburbs feeling the pinch as fuel prices soar

By Helen Chernikoff

NEW YORK, (Reuters) - Ever since the rise of the automobile in the 1950s, the American Dream has featured a home in the suburbs and two cars in the garage.

Now the iconic white picket fence comes with a hefty price tag in the form of the cost of the gasoline needed to drive to work and to the supermarket, and the suburban idyll is under review.

In different parts of the United States, there are signs of change. While home prices in the suburbs have crashed, apartments in city centers are in demand. Home builders across the country are frantically trying to unload land they had intended for new subdivisions. And planners are rethinking how they can meet demand for housing.

One such place is Stapleton, on the site of what used to be Denver's airport. Its developer, real estate company Forest City, puts homes within walking distance of schools and stores while linking them to the workplace by public transportation.

Resident Evelyn Baker says Stapleton appeals to a "cheapskate" side of her nature that favors towing her offspring about in a trailer attached to her bike over paying for gas for her car.

"We're a family of four with two young kids and the obligatory yellow Lab, but we've managed to get by with one car," said Baker, who has lived here since April 2006.

And, with gas prices above $4 a gallon, Baker said her move to Stapleton feels like a smart decision both because of lower day-to-day costs and the durability of her home's value.

"I do feel like my house is retaining its value, and I'm really excited about that," Baker said.

In the suburb of Maricopa, about an hour's drive outside Phoenix, residents have a very different feeling.

Built on former corn and cotton fields, the suburb has grown to number 38,000 people from about 1,500 in 2002, accommodating people who were willing to accept longer commutes in order to get homes at cheaper prices.

These days, Maricopa has been inundated by foreclosures and short sales -- where lenders agree to take a repayment that is lower than the outstanding loan to avoid dealing with a foreclosure, and high gas prices are part of the reason.

"Gas prices put a strain on people. The bulk of people that live here have to work and do have to commute, so obviously it adds to their expenses," said Bill Wasowicz, a realtor with Fortuna Land & Realty in Maricopa.

The town even launched its own bus service, taking residents to work in central Phoenix and home again for $6, but still homes here are hemorrhaging value.

HERE COMES THE NEIGHBORHOOD

Tracy McKelvey and his wife Jan lived in a similar suburb and used to commute two hours each day to their jobs in Phoenix. But, a few years ago, they traded in their three-bedroom, two-garage house in the Phoenix valley for a downtown loft.

Both McKelveys now travel to work by scooter and enjoy restaurants, cafes, sports arenas and shops within walking distance of home, taking advantage of the $2.3 billion that the country's fifth-largest city is spending to build housing, a university campus and a mass transit rail system.

"We save money on gas. It's a good feeling. I haven't sat in a traffic jam for years," Tracy McKelvey said.

As people like the McKelveys take action to shorten their commutes, home builders are fleeing the suburbs, too, sometimes selling land at a loss, even the priciest parcels snapped up at the height of the building boom.

Meritage Homes Corp, the 12th-largest U.S. home builder, has pulled out of many places where people are not buying, said spokesman Brent Anderson.

Where developers can't escape, they're offering unprecedented incentives to move inventory. In May, Michael Crews Development offered to give away a row home valued at $400,000 with the purchase of a $1.6 million luxury home in the upscale city of Escondido, north of San Diego.

A recent survey of 903 brokers affiliated with national real estate chain Coldwell Banker suggests that pressure is building. Almost 80 percent of them said higher fuel costs are increasing their clients' desire to live in cities.

"People rejected cities for 30 years or so but now they're looking again," said John Norquist of Congress for the New Urbanism, a Chicago-based group that promotes walkable development.

Young families, once considered synonymous with suburbs, are increasingly opting to raise urban babies in places like New York.

"Parents recognize that there are good reasons to live in cities," Norquist said. "Walkability, convenience, not having to drive kids everywhere. And gas prices at $4.50 a gallon will accelerate that."

Even smaller cities are getting in on the act. Omaha, Nebraska, and Kansas City, Missouri, are among those revitalizing their downtowns.

Mick Cornett, the mayor of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, said that once the only people who lived in the city's downtown were those who were in jail. "It's a different story today," he said.

And retirees who put their empty nests in the suburbs up for sale are increasingly looking at moving into cities. That shift may get a further boost when the big Baby Boom generation starts turning 65 in 2011.

Experts like Christopher Leinberger, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution and head of the graduate program in real estate development at the University of Michigan, note that people are now willing to pay a premium to live in the city, a reversal from the last 50 years.

"These are not the cyclical changes that recessions cause every few years. These are game-changing structural changes," Leinberger said. "The market is demanding walkable urban product."

The resale value of attached housing, such as condominiums and cooperatives, is appreciating faster than single-family homes, said Arthur Nelson, a director of the Metropolitan Institute at Virginia Tech. In regions where housing is losing value, attached homes are losing value at a lower rate than single-family ones.

"Condos are a much more resilient investment than single-family on the whole, nationwide," he said.

Prices are up 5 percent in Washington's Georgetown neighborhood, an area of upscale townhomes, and down 30 percent on the city's fringe, Leinberger noted.

MIDDLE GROUND

For those who can't afford or don't want to live downtown, but can't afford or don't want to commute to the suburbs, hybrids like Stapleton are literally a middle ground.

Government and home builders are supporting such communities by expanding rail networks and putting housing within walking distance of train stations, said Sam Zimmerman-Bergman of Reconnecting America, a mass transit advocacy organization.

However, Forest City's Ronald Ratner, head of residential development, cautions against overstating the trend, which he says still needs nurturing.

Federal transit spending isn't sufficient to keep pace with the increase in local demand for transit, said Zimmerman-Bergman, although that could change with the reauthorization of the federal transportation bill next year.

On the local level, municipalities whose budgets have taken a hit due to falling property values are struggling to fund transportation needs.

Another obstacle is a bulky permits and approvals process, which becomes increasingly cumbersome the closer a developer gets to a city, and the difficulty this presents for developers.

"In homebuilding, one has to work years ahead in terms of approvals," said Kira McCarron, vice-president of marketing for luxury builder Toll Brothers Inc. "So it isn't possible for any builder to react on a dime in terms of a trend that presents itself today."

But some cities, like Denver, that have either streamlined their review process or provided the necessary transportation infrastructure have found productive partnerships with builders eager to get into hybrid development.

San Mateo, California is another example. A few years ago, that city moved to wean residents off cars and onto trains by allowing housing near its transit hub, which prompted developer Edward Lipkin of EBL&S Development to turn an old department store into what he calls a village.

Station Park Green, slated for completion in 2009, will have 600 residential units in a mix of rental, condos and townhouses; retail including a coffee shop and a small grocer and rail access to San Francisco and San Jose.

"The idea is to eliminate as many of the car-based necessity trips as possible," Lipkin said.

For years, Lipkin was a developer of shopping malls in the classic sprawling suburban style. Then his experience in San Mateo inspired him to reorient his entire business to development along the lines of Station Park Green.

"That was the opportunity to participate in what we felt was an emerging trend," said Lipkin. "We just feel it's the future of development in the United States.

Reuters.com (http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3047989020080710?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=10215&sp=true)

wisla_krakow
07-10-2008, 07:04 AM
and another positive!

"Looptopia" is sign of downtown revival in Chicago

By Andrew Stern

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Bustling with office workers during the day, Chicago's downtown Loop -- a square mile ringed by elevated train tracks -- was deserted at night and on weekends.

At least until recently. Now, new restaurants and shops stay open past the evening exodus, catering to tens of thousands of new residents who are contributing to a downtown renaissance.

Among those opting to live downtown is Marie Verle, 30, a Parisian who teaches French cooking while her husband studies for a business degree at the University of Chicago.

"We prefer to put more money into living than in a car," said Verle, 30, accompanying her two boys to a playground between the Loop and a harbor in Lake Michigan.

"We wanted to live in a big building -- they don't have these in Paris -- and to see the lake, to see the lights."

Chicago, with 3 million people in the city and 5 million more in its far-flung suburbs, is one of several U.S. cities experiencing a downtown revival as people choose shorter commutes over bigger living spaces.

The high price of gas -- for sitting in perpetual traffic jams -- and the high cost of heating and cooling single-family homes are adding fuel to what was already a trend.

Inside the Loop, several of the city's historic skyscrapers have been converted into condominiums for an influx of retirees, students, people tired of long commutes, and Europeans emboldened by the strong euro.

"Downtown is the fastest-growing neighborhood in Chicago," said Ty Tabing, director of the Chicago Loop Alliance, which promotes downtown living with events like an all-night "Looptopia" street festival in early May.

Tabing lives downtown, gets his groceries delivered, hires a car-sharing service to buy necessities and avoids the drudgery of "waiting, especially in cold weather, for that rickety train that's going to have crazy people on it."

To change the perception of downtown as office park, city leaders poured resources into cultural attractions and are trying to repair troubled public schools.

New high-rises have been built on vacant plots or parking lots. Older office buildings that do not have the amenities to command high rents, but which have stupendous views and architectural details, have been rehabilitated.

Magellan Development Group is adding more high-rises to its East Lake Shore "village in the city" wedged between the Loop and a highway along the Lake Michigan shoreline, many with views of the city's popular Millennium Park and the lake.

And two signature buildings, Donald Trump's nearly completed 92-story tower on the Chicago River and the twisting 150-story "Spire" by architect Santiago Calatrava, will add to the supply of luxury digs.

Compared with 1990, downtown residences are projected to more than double by 2010 to 110,000 units, housing 160,000 people and property appraisal firm Appraisal Research Counselors has warned of a possible glut of new apartments.

But the wealthier buyers of these condos, priced at an average of nearly $700,000, tend to be insulated from the foreclosures and tight mortgage market that affect other areas.

"Since the end of 1994 until six months ago, we had no down cycle," said Joel Carlins of Magellan Development Group, which is adding more highrises to its East Lake Shore village. "Naturally, we'll go slower, but we'll still go ahead because we think our location justifies it."

In the developing world, governments are trying to slow urban browth, which has contributed to poverty. But "urban concentration may paradoxically be essential for environmental preservation," George Martine, author of a United Nations report on the topic, said at an international forum on urban planning hosted by Chicago in April.

In Chicago and other cities, the trend toward moving downtown is driven by several factors besides the cost of gas: retirement for some starts earlier and lasts longer, more people have home-based businesses, and households are smaller. Two-thirds of U.S. households did not have children in 2000 compared with one-half in 1960, and nearly three-quarters of households will be childless by 2040.

"Even moderate-sized cities like Omaha or Kansas City have urban revitalization happening in their downtowns. But Chicago is definitely, along with New York City, the champ," said John Norquist of Congress for the New Urbanism, a Chicago-based group that promotes walkable development.

Elaine Bella, 50, is a Chicago condo-dweller whose husband, a doctor, can commute by car, cab or bus. "There's lots of culture, a lot of music, a lot of options: you can go to opera, musicals, theater, good restaurants. It's very safe. It's high quality. We like it very much," she said.

Retiree Barb Harring, 54, watches Chicago's lakefront fireworks displays from her three-bedroom condominium, and her frequent guests can step out for theater, museums, and festivals.

"I could find a cheaper place further away," she said as she walked her dog in a 6-acre park set amid skyscrapers. "But then I thought everyone would have to come down here anyway because that's where they want to go, mostly."

Reuters.com (http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUKN2346507520080710?virtualBrandChannel=10215&sp=true)

Evergrey
07-10-2008, 07:46 AM
while many urban cores are seeing renewed interest... partially spurred by rising fuel prices... I am not convinced that a future of escalating fuel prices will be a boon to cities either... while the sprawl-lands will be rendered completely untenable... the cities may become increasingly dysfunctional due to a collapsing economy and energy shortages... and America's populace... urban, suburban and rural... will become a poorer and more desperate people

While I'll admit to indulging in a bit of Schadenfreude due to the collapsing home values of places like Maricopa, AZ... I fear a grim future for all of us.

urbanactivistTX
07-10-2008, 05:43 PM
while many urban cores are seeing renewed interest... partially spurred by rising fuel prices... I am not convinced that a future of escalating fuel prices will be a boon to cities either... while the sprawl-lands will be rendered completely untenable... the cities may become increasingly dysfunctional due to a collapsing economy and energy shortages... and America's populace... urban, suburban and rural... will become a poorer and more desperate people

While I'll admit to indulging in a bit of Schadenfreude due to the collapsing home values of places like Maricopa, AZ... I fear a grim future for all of us.

Interesting point, but it's ultimately up to us....


The US is at a turning point with two possible outcomes. If we continue to play the blame game until oil prices sag down back under the three dollar mark, we're just delaying an even greater fallout. People will move back to their suburban dream worlds and continue the wasteful hazardous patterns as before. But the economic slump has also given a great alternative. If we choose now to move into our cities and invest in a better transit system, we can create millions of jobs, refresh the market with more capital, and hurl ourselves back out of recession. It's easier said than done of course, but this is definitely the time to do it.

sukwoo
07-10-2008, 06:17 PM
Interesting point, but it's ultimately up to us....


The US is at a turning point with two possible outcomes. If we continue to play the blame game until oil prices sag down back under the three dollar mark, we're just delaying an even greater fallout. People will move back to their suburban dream worlds and continue the wasteful hazardous patterns as before. But the economic slump has also given a great alternative. If we choose now to move into our cities and invest in a better transit system, we can create millions of jobs, refresh the market with more capital, and hurl ourselves back out of recession. It's easier said than done of course, but this is definitely the time to do it.

While the rise in gas prices is hitting Americans hard, we have to remember we're still the wealthiest country in the world. While a future of doom and gloom is a possibility, if we make the correct decisions, we can rest our country on a more sustainable path of growth and prosperity.

miketoronto
07-13-2008, 02:00 AM
While the rise in gas prices is hitting Americans hard, we have to remember we're still the wealthiest country in the world. While a future of doom and gloom is a possibility, if we make the correct decisions, we can rest our country on a more sustainable path of growth and prosperity.

The funny thing is America is considered the wealthiest country in the world(eventhough it is not), however you would never know that. American's spend so much money on transportation and large houses that they have hardly any money left for anything else. That is why American's shop at Walmart.
The car based culture has caused us to not travel as much, not seek out culture as much, eat crappy cheap processed food, etc.

hudkina
07-13-2008, 02:28 AM
Yes, because the Real Canadian Superstore and Wal-Mart Canada don't exist...;)

Reverberation
07-13-2008, 03:10 AM
We will just end up driving electric cars and have homes run on renewable energy sources. Suburbs will be seen as more risky and development will fill in the already established areas.

Adapting what we have is easier than relocating millions of people to the inner city.

Matty
07-13-2008, 03:23 AM
We will just end up driving electric cars and have homes run on renewable energy sources. Suburbs will be seen as more risky and development will fill in the already established areas.

Adapting what we have is easier than relocating millions of people to the inner city.

I imagine the long term trend to be a re-urbanization. Adapting what we have, yes, as we slowly restructure and rebuild. Suburbs simply can't support a highly energy efficient way of life, and city size is going to retract (geographically). Electric cars and solar panels won't be enough.

LouReed
07-13-2008, 03:37 AM
The funny thing is America is considered the wealthiest country in the world(eventhough it is not), however you would never know that. American's spend so much money on transportation and large houses that they have hardly any money left for anything else. That is why American's shop at Walmart.
The car based culture has caused us to not travel as much, not seek out culture as much, eat crappy cheap processed food, etc.

statistically, the US is the wealthiest country in the world, and there are plenty of options and opportunity to not live the lifestyle you described above. many American cities have a stronger urban jolt of life compared to your beloved Toronto.

miketoronto
07-13-2008, 04:27 AM
statistically, the US is the wealthiest country in the world, and there are plenty of options and opportunity to not live the lifestyle you described above. many American cities have a stronger urban jolt of life compared to your beloved Toronto.

Excuse me, but I did not say Canada was utopia. Infact I said nothing about Canada being better than the US in terms of suburbanization and how we live. Canadians are just as bad as Americans in many regards, and also spend a ton of money on cars, and bigger houses, and shop at Walmart, etc.

So I don't know why you guys brought Canada into this.

Also electric cars will not be the answer. We can not generate the amounts of energy that would be needed to fuel millions of cars for every single trip we do. It could cause just as much problems.

TWAK
07-13-2008, 05:38 AM
You guys make it seem easy for a family of four in the suburbs to find a place in the "urban core" easy and just as cheap as a suburban house. Its not so easy to just pick up all your belongings and relocate to a smaller home. What if they work in the suburbs? What if the job is not in some downtown office, but the industrial part of town with no transit?

Policy Wonk
07-13-2008, 08:34 AM
People have to remember that oil prices today are NOT the result of Peak Oil or any particular supply issue - but unchecked, uncapitalized speculation based on paranoid fears of potential supply issues.

Oil could crash harder now than it did in 1986 when the price of oil more than halved in roughly a year.

PhillyRising
07-13-2008, 01:05 PM
People have to remember that oil prices today are NOT the result of Peak Oil or any particular supply issue - but unchecked, uncapitalized speculation based on paranoid fears of potential supply issues.

Oil could crash harder now than it did in 1986 when the price of oil more than halved in roughly a year.

I remember being in Florida on vacation in 1986 and looking at a gas station sign and they were selling regular gas for .65 cents a gallon and wondering how the hell that happened since had been over a dollar a gallon for the first half of the decade. I was in college at the time and didn't drive a car, nor really went near a gas station and had no clue that oil had dropped so much that year.

The Oil Traders need to flogged in public.

miketoronto
07-13-2008, 01:48 PM
You guys make it seem easy for a family of four in the suburbs to find a place in the "urban core" easy and just as cheap as a suburban house. Its not so easy to just pick up all your belongings and relocate to a smaller home. What if they work in the suburbs? What if the job is not in some downtown office, but the industrial part of town with no transit?

It is not about moving all families to the urban core. It is about building sustainable new communities. And if there are no buses to the industrial area, than start running them :)

mhays
07-13-2008, 05:50 PM
People have to remember that oil prices today are NOT the result of Peak Oil or any particular supply issue - but unchecked, uncapitalized speculation based on paranoid fears of potential supply issues.

Oil could crash harder now than it did in 1986 when the price of oil more than halved in roughly a year.

We have to remember? Knowledgeable people are on both sides of that question.

Prices will probably come down this fall, but they tend to rise each summer. I highly doubt a price crash.

waterloowarrior
07-14-2008, 12:15 AM
isn't Luxembourg the richest country in the world?

mhays
07-14-2008, 01:05 AM
At least a few countries could probably say that, depending on what you're counting.

urbanfan89
07-14-2008, 01:32 AM
Oil could crash harder now than it did in 1986 when the price of oil more than halved in roughly a year.

Oil crashed in the mid 1980s because the Saudis pumped more oil. Why would they do this? Because Reagan had struck a deal with them: more oil for modern military equipment.

In the end this caused the Soviet Union to lose huge amounts of revenue and lead to its disintegration. It's doubtful that the Saudis are *able* to pump more than 12.5 mbpd even if they wanted to.

Policy Wonk
07-14-2008, 02:58 AM
There is no need for an injection of new supply because there is no shortage riding supply and demand to higher prices. Oil, gasoline and natural gas inventories are all relatively high. There is 3% more gasoline inventory available today than there was a year ago according to Platts.

Raise the margin requirement for trading in energy futures and the lack of liquidity in the market will kick the uncapitalized speculators to the curb. Since they won't be able to cover the margin requirements and won't be able to borrow money to cover them. But when you can speculate on $100,000 worth of oil with under $5000 in capital there will be rampant speculation. Especially when oil is being seen as a safe investment in a chilling market.

DBR96A
07-14-2008, 04:26 AM
Suburbs will not disappear. Those near highways and rail lines will densify. Those that aren't convenient to either are the ones that I worry about.



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