[williamchung taiwan]

It is a project near President Enterprise Corporation Tower and it is A3. The current high is 195.45m which is 45 floors.

Unfortunately, I do not know what does it look like. The reason is the design change a couple of time. And it is hard to find the picutre.




from http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/viewthread.php?tid=129568&highlight=%B0%EA%AE%F5%B8m%A6a%BCs%B3%F5

by 白

it is the picture of construction site
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/DSC_3625.jpg

[williamchung taiwan]

it is the only picture I can find


2006 years picture
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/2g2_rPUK5wDTdweu_jPfCBbgoramW.jpg

[sungFFman]

Thanks for everything William! =)

Although there aren't too many replies, I'm very sure everyone's grateful for your contribution.

[williamchung taiwan]

Thanks for everything William! =)

Although there aren't too many replies, I'm very sure everyone's grateful for your contribution.

Thanks!! I will keep going!
Back to the project, I really think do they know appearence when I find this picture!

[ed21x]

I definitely appreciate all these new updates :)

That picture looks far taller than 45 stories!

[Razqal]

although i'm glad it's pretty tall, i really hope they change the facade of that building. it looks so brown and dull. and the design looks so dated. :yuck:

[williamchung taiwan]

although i'm glad it's pretty tall, i really hope they change the facade of that building. it looks so brown and dull. and the design looks so dated. :yuck:

Same as me.........
When I frist time to see this picture, I just think " What'd hell !!＂.

[Razqal]

Same as me.........
When I frist time to see this picture, I just think " What'd hell !!＂.


no, not "what'd hell". it's "what THE hell" or slang "what da hell" which is what i think you meant. "what'd" means "what would" just like "I'd" = I would or "we'd" = we would. just a little english lesson for ya!! ;)

[williamchung taiwan]

no, not "what'd hell". it's "what THE hell" or slang "what da hell" which is what i think you meant. "what'd" means "what would" just like "I'd" = I would or "we'd" = we would. just a little english lesson for ya!! ;)

yes!!! Improve my English!:banana: :banana:

[williamchung taiwan]

from http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/viewthread.php?tid=5449&extra=page%3D1&page=43

by bigcity3000

8/13

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/CIMG0839.jpg


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/CIMG0840.jpg

[philip]

Keep us updated. If it is 45 stories tall or taller, it is great. That area really needs some tall buildings other than Taipei 101.

[philip]

By the way, that rendering is highly unlikely to be real. Someone just photoshoped this building on the left to make it look taller:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2051/3143zn.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/2g2_rPUK5wDTdweu_jPfCBbgoramW.jpg

[williamchung taiwan]

By the way, that rendering is highly unlikely to be real. Someone just photoshoped this building on the left to make it look taller:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2051/3143zn.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/2g2_rPUK5wDTdweu_jPfCBbgoramW.jpg

According skyscrapers.cn, the rendering I post is not the final design. The final design is more likely like this rendering!

by linkin0219

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/665cfa7b.jpg

[Razqal]

it doesnt look much better. :sly:

[williamchung taiwan]

it doesnt look much better. :sly:

I know.....
And their badget is only 10 millions US dollars...
how can they build a 45floors building under this badget?
Now, I totally confused, what kind of design can keep the cost within 10 millions?

[williamchung taiwan]

the rendering from google (198m)

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/download.jpg

[Razqal]

so that's the new design?

[williamchung taiwan]

so that's the new design?

I hope so !:sly: :sly:

[Razqal]

at least it's tall. hopefully the cladding will be really nice.

[williamchung taiwan]

at least it's tall. hopefully the cladding will be really nice.

may be it is japanese style....

[williamchung taiwan]

I just find another rendering from skyscrapers.cn.
by linkin029

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/13402725.jpg

[Razqal]

may be it is japanese style....

no i hope it's american style. go USA!!!

[Razqal]

I just find another rendering from skyscrapers.cn.
by linkin029

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/13402725.jpg

it's going to be dull grey like that? doesnt look promising. :slob:

[ed21x]

it looks a little bit more conservative/classy and less tacky than most buildings in Taipei. I definitely like the height.

[williamchung taiwan]

President Enterprise Corporation Tower and President Hotel (President international interchange) are very good building, but not ofr this one.
Maybe we need to wait until clear rendering is come out.

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.cn by coffeemilk1984

This photo sould be within two days.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/0049.jpg

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw
by 苦悶之驅

Nothing else, except nice blue sky

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/President%20Hotel/20-09-08_1410.jpg

[ed21x]

at least there is some activity on the plot... better than last year :) If this project goes through, Taipei would actually have the beginnings of a respectable skyline in xinyi.

one of the side benefits to how horribly cross-strait tourism is doing is that Songshan Airport is still not reporting rises in revenue, so we could potentially see the Airport close down. That could lead to openning up the land between Xinyi and Neihu, and we could finally see a fully developed east side of Taipei.

[williamchung taiwan]

at least there is some activity on the plot... better than last year :) If this project goes through, Taipei would actually have the beginnings of a respectable skyline in xinyi.

one of the side benefits to how horribly cross-strait tourism is doing is that Songshan Airport is still not reporting rises in revenue, so we could potentially see the Airport close down. That could lead to openning up the land between Xinyi and Neihu, and we could finally see a fully developed east side of Taipei.

Hope the government can close down Shongshan Airport after the airport line is completed.

[Razqal]

not very likely. :(

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2008/09/23/2003423979

Ma wants more international flights from Songshan

By Ko Shu-Ling
STAFF REPORTER
Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008, Page 3
President Ma Ying-jeou (馬英九) said yesterday he would like to see Taipei Songshan Airport offer flights to major cities in Northeast Asia. Songshan Airport now operates only domestic flights and flights to China.

Ma said he hoped to see flights connecting Songshan to Tokyo and Seoul, as cutting travel time by avoiding Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport would help the nation’s high-tech industry.

Ma made the remarks while meeting members of the Tsinghua Enterpreneur and Executive Club at the Presidential Office.

Ma said more flights connecting Taipei, Shanghai and Tokyo would benefit the high-tech industries in those cities, adding that part of his election platform was to establish a “golden aviation circle in Northeast Asia [sic].”

Saying that his administration attached great importance to developing the high-tech industry, Ma said he wanted to see more convenient transportation between major Asian cities.

Ma said that many big cities in East Asia had two airports — one domestic and the other international. The domestic airport is often more conveniently located, while the international one is outside of the city limits.

“City airports outside many big cities in Northeast Asia are usually far away from the city and travel time from the airport to the city takes a long time,” he said. “More cities are thinking of making their domestic [centrally located] airports international.”

Tokyo was pushing flights between Haneda airport and Seoul, while Tokyo and Shanghai have begun charter flights between their domestic airports, he said.

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscraper.tw by coffeemilk1984
9/26
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/0067.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/0070.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/0071.jpg

[Razqal]

is there not going to be a parking structure/basement? looks like they are starting construction from street level.

[williamchung taiwan]

The continous walls were fininshed a long long time ago. I don't understand why they excavate again....

[SpeedoPro]

it looks a little bit more conservative/classy and less tacky than most buildings in Taipei. I definitely like the height.

agreed. but still old, boring, and uninspiring. taipei just can't build anything that looks somewhat modern and sleek. :(

[Muji]

No way. A lot of nice stuff has gone up in Neihu technology park, I think. Though sadly none of it is actually downtown.

[Australiasian]

aluminium cladding would be awesome but highly unlikely

[williamchung taiwan]

10/12 by henryliujjv from skyscrapers.tw

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/DSC02018.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/DSC02017.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/DSC02016.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/DSC02022.jpg

[ed21x]

No way. A lot of nice stuff has gone up in Neihu technology park, I think. Though sadly none of it is actually downtown.

if Songsan Airport was removed, Neihu and Xinyi would connect and form one amazing downtown area.

[Australiasian]

if Songsan Airport was removed, Neihu and Xinyi would connect and form one amazing downtown area.

one can only dream that happening. it won't be removed anytime soon. former mayor ma's reason? - to keep taipei competitve by having an airport close by.

[williamchung taiwan]

one can only dream that happening. it won't be removed anytime soon. former mayor ma's reason? - to keep taipei competitve by having an airport close by.

This week, Taipei has a lot of 30+ floors project.

[duabi]

close down songshan to keep taipei city and taoyuan airport competitive! ;)

[williamchung taiwan]

close down songshan to keep taipei city and taoyuan airport competitive! ;)

I think they know that Shong Shan airport still in touble.

[Australiasian]

This week, Taipei has a lot of 30+ floors project.

of coz, it would be nice having more creative highrises in taipei but what taipei really needs is a central park and removing songshan will give us that! let's not forget about noise reduction and the associated perk of a songshan district renewal/new land release when the airport is removed.

i reckon, if taipei just dont have the economic capacity to accommodate super skyscrapers like the ones in hong kong or shanghai then please give us short but architecturally sound buildings!

barcelona, anyone?

[ed21x]

I think they know that Shong Shan airport still in touble.

yup. Ma's entire goal for keeping Songsan open was the hope that it would become profitable once direct flights are oppened from that airport. Ironically, China has put so many restrictions on people flying to taiwan, and we've been instructed to not allow Chinese tourists to view any of our 'pro-democracy' monuments. So in the end, our 3-6 flights a day is not cutting the cheese, nor is it offsetting the decreased profits from the hsr. Considering the restricted flight path from developments all around the airport, I give songsan at most 5 years before it closes.

On the upside, if direct flights are established, Taoyuan Airport could potentially become a major transit hub throughout all of asia, which can only be good for our economy.

[Australiasian]

yup. Ma's entire goal for keeping Songsan open was the hope that it would become profitable once direct flights are oppened from that airport. Ironically, China has put so many restrictions on people flying to taiwan, and we've been instructed to not allow Chinese tourists to view any of our 'pro-democracy' monuments. So in the end, our 3-6 flights a day is not cutting the cheese, nor is it offsetting the decreased profits from the hsr. Considering the restricted flight path from developments all around the airport, I give songsan at most 5 years before it closes.

On the upside, if direct flights are established, Taoyuan Airport could potentially become a major transit hub throughout all of asia, which can only be good for our economy.

transit hub? dont want to discourage you but that aint going to happen with hong kong and macau right next to us. yeah sure we can become a major transit hub in the region if we start building a brand new airport and lower our airport taxes to nil. im not being negative here guys. it is just the truth. becoming a major asia-pacific transit hub has been a government slogan for over 20 years and where has it gotten us? - no way and a dilapidated airport.

[Australiasian]

i just dont understand why ma's still clinging on hopes that having an airport right in the heart of taiwan's biggest city's going to make us competitve? come on man!? i dont see hong kong keeping their kowloon airport just so their city can be competitive.

it just irritates me seeing some irrational decisions being supported by most taipei residents due to some political reasons. i remembered clearly that a few years back a DPP mayor candidate was going to demolish songshan airport for a central park but no we dont really care about your proposals since your political believes are different to mine. everything in taiwan's grossed political.

[williamchung taiwan]

of coz, it would be nice having more creative highrises in taipei but what taipei really needs is a central park and removing songshan will give us that! let's not forget about noise reduction and the associated perk of a songshan district renewal/new land release when the airport is removed.

i reckon, if taipei just dont have the economic capacity to accommodate super skyscrapers like the ones in hong kong or shanghai then please give us short but architecturally sound buildings!

barcelona, anyone?

I just think maybe Taipei city government try to put pressure to Song San airport by introduction building policy.(maybe they never think about that) Many 30 floors building come out because that policy which taipei city government introduce. It's called 促進都市再生2010年臺北好好看. Recently, a lot of companies take this advantage and try to earn more profit by building higher building. Many of them are around 120m to 150m. Recently,from my understanding, the highest one is 42 floors which about 170m.

If Taipei want to be one of the most competitive cities in the world, then they must think about Taoyuan. I think Taipei need to support Taoyuan to pass that trillions dollars of plan, Taiwan Taoyuan International Air City and Taoyuan International Port.

[ed21x]

transit hub? dont want to discourage you but that aint going to happen with hong kong and macau right next to us. yeah sure we can become a major transit hub in the region if we start building a brand new airport and lower our airport taxes to nil. im not being negative here guys. it is just the truth. becoming a major asia-pacific transit hub has been a government slogan for over 20 years and where has it gotten us? - no way and a dilapidated airport.

we were once a major transit hub, and kaohsiung use to be the largest shipping hub in asia. The reason we aren't anymore is because other nations around us have stepped up their effort while we've remained stagnant. However, we do have a geographical advantage over any area you've mentioned, and we can capitalize on it- and the first step is to rennovate and promote Taoyuan Airport. And of course we need direct flights. This is not a political thing, but it is hard not to acknowledge what a big economy china is, and the fact that we are the only nation without direct flights to shanghai isn't helping.

[Razqal]

well being a transit hubs has it's downside too. airplanes are one of the biggest sources of air pollution and taiwan is already polluted enough. and it also causes alot of noise pollution as well.

[duabi]

Taking about hubs... I support the direct flights, but I think our government is not trying hard enough to get more benefits from the direct flights.

In a TW news, a Chinese airline's spokesperson was interviewed. She said Taiwanese could take direct flights to "our Mainland cities then transfer out to other countries"...


btw if you go back and check the old news:
1.
阿扁馬英九 市場走透透
阿扁對萬華提十大承諾 馬檢討松山機場遷建案
記者邱淑宜/台北報導
"國民黨台北市長候選人馬英九今早走訪中山區的濱江市場
，並對中山區發展提出願景，馬英九表示，在他當選後，
將積極檢討松山機場遷建問題，他認為，在高鐵完工後，
松山機場遷建應該可以獲得認同。"
【1998-11-25/聯合晚報/12版/台北都會】

2.
選前利多 拉抬房市行情
"推動松山機場遷建
松山機場遷建，是國民黨台北市長參選人郝龍斌及民進黨台北市長參選人謝長廷不約而同的主張。"
聯合報2006.11.25

news on the "same date" lol
so my prediction: The airport will be closed down on 11/25/2014 ;)

[williamchung taiwan]

馬:盡舉國之力做好桃園航空城






總統馬英九（右）十八日在桃園縣長朱立倫（左）陪同下視察桃園機場免稅店，並且試飲台灣茶葉。（中央社）

　



















































本報記者／桃園報導
　為提升台灣競爭力，總統馬英九昨天視察桃園機場時說出重話，強調桃園航空城計畫是十二項愛台旗艦計畫，整個計畫並非圖利桃園縣，而是圖利全台灣，政府會盡舉全國之力來做好，提升台灣競爭力，如果不好好開發，將愧對台灣這塊土地。


　馬總統昨天視察桃園縣，除了參加石門國小九十週年校慶外，也視察石門水庫，並且與地方鄉鎮市長、民眾等面對面座談，最後前往桃園機場視察相關建設。


　關心航空城等計畫，馬英九總統前往桃園國際機場視察，聽取交通部及民航局等簡報，同時也聽取地方民意代表反映的意見，馬英九總統逐一做筆記，並且逐一來回答。


　馬英九總統首先強調凡事在競選期間提出來的政見，將來會由總統府和行政院，各部會負責四百多項會來檢討，了解一下那些政見是不是變成政策，政策有沒有轉化計畫，計畫有沒有編列預算，務必讓政見落實。


　另外，針對各界最關心的桃園航空城計畫，馬總統不斷強調，航空城計畫不單只是提升交通建設，或只是提升自由貿易港區的運作，而是肩負帶動台灣經濟發展重責大任。




列愛台十二項建設旗艦計畫

　馬英九表示，桃園航空城計畫是愛台十二項建設的旗艦計畫，有帶動台灣整體發展重要任務，希望行政院各部會當作頭等大事來做，用心推動，一定要努力完成，才不會愧對這塊土地，要把握台灣是東亞中心特點。


　馬總統強調，航空城計畫並非圖利桃園縣，而是圖利全台灣，如果因為行政疏失而延宕，對國人是一項損失。


　馬總統指出，台灣各地區的發展條件不同，不一定每個縣市都擁有發展航空城的條件，但他認為，許多公共建設在興建時，必須要注意到實際需要，否則最後變成蚊子館，不但無法收拾局面，也浪費公帑。


　隨後馬總統也實際到免稅商品區視察，受到馬迷粉絲的熱情招呼，馬總統同時呼籲國人為刺激經濟環境，可以將部分規劃用於民生消費。
　
2008/10/18 21:22

[williamchung taiwan]

Hi, everyone!
Here's the correct rendering for this project!
This is kind Taiwanese classical european style!:sly:


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/001-1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/005-2.jpg

[duabi]

It does look like the photoshoped one on the first page except for the roof lol.

[Razqal]

greeeat......another tacky neo-classical european-style brown tower. just what taiwan needs to fill the landscape with more drab brown buildings.

[Australiasian]

Taking about hubs... I support the direct flights, but I think our government is not trying hard enough to get more benefits from the direct flights.

In a TW news, a Chinese airline's spokesperson was interviewed. She said Taiwanese could take direct flights to "our Mainland cities then transfer out to other countries"...


btw if you go back and check the old news:
1.
阿扁馬英九 市場走透透
阿扁對萬華提十大承諾 馬檢討松山機場遷建案
記者邱淑宜/台北報導
"國民黨台北市長候選人馬英九今早走訪中山區的濱江市場
，並對中山區發展提出願景，馬英九表示，在他當選後，
將積極檢討松山機場遷建問題，他認為，在高鐵完工後，
松山機場遷建應該可以獲得認同。"
【1998-11-25/聯合晚報/12版/台北都會】

2.
選前利多 拉抬房市行情
"推動松山機場遷建
松山機場遷建，是國民黨台北市長參選人郝龍斌及民進黨台北市長參選人謝長廷不約而同的主張。"
聯合報2006.11.25

news on the "same date" lol
so my prediction: The airport will be closed down on 11/25/2014 ;)

let's hope so

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw by coffeemilk1984

10/30
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/0088-1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/0085-1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/0084-1.jpg

[ed21x]

might as well go down the list:

1. Tacky/useless Ornamentation (eg. Wings/Neon Signs)- check

2. Pointless Dome- check

3. Neoclassical/faux-roman architecture with pillars- check

4. Inconsistent with Urban context- check

5. Brown/Gray/Concrete Color- check

6. Bathroom Tiles- uncheck

7. Under 20 stories- uncheck

8. Horrible greenery/walkway to building ratio on a single plot- check

9. Building spaced too close together within single plot- uncheck

10. C.Y. Lee design- check?

yeah, it looks like this building scores an 7/10 on the failure scale...

[Razqal]

it's way over 20 stories tho. :P

[williamchung taiwan]

45F for sure!:previous: :previous:

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/0101-1.jpg

[SpeedoPro]

come on gurls, give cathay credit for building something close to 200m.

[williamchung taiwan]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/A3/0147-1.jpg

[Australiasian]

http://tw.f14.yahoofs.com/myper/MVecGpuVAx.HSzsxesjhDGU-/blog/20070203092119513.jpg?TTAKfnJBSgeBffIv

found this rendering online just then. maybe what the building might look like once it is completed.

[williamchung taiwan]

http://tw.f14.yahoofs.com/myper/MVecGpuVAx.HSzsxesjhDGU-/blog/20070203092119513.jpg?TTAKfnJBSgeBffIv

found this rendering online just then. maybe what the building might look like once it is completed.
This one is previous rendering which was about 2 years ago.
I had posted the newest one on page 3 in this thread.

[Australiasian]

thanks william

[williamchung taiwan]

05/03/09
from skyscrapers.tw by coffeemilk1984

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[metroXpress]

I wonder how the traffic is like there? *HINT*

[SpeedoPro]

are those hideous apts the 'view' that awaits the future four seasons hotel guests? :yuck:

[williamchung taiwan]

One of the infromation I get, the client does not like the design.
This project may be change again.

[sungFFman]

Good, cuz the building's hideous! And they should knock down those apartment complex, from one end of eslite bookstore to another feels like crossing from US to Mexico.

[williamchung taiwan]

10/04/09 from skyscrapers.tw
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[williamchung taiwan]

A really good information I just got from skyscrapers.tw a few minutes before!
The design is changed!
I think it is why they stop the construction for such a long time.

New building is designed by 大元事務所. It is the same group which design Kelti Group Headquaters and CSC Headquaters. The new building will be glass curtain wall building.

[Razqal]

you mean artech? http://www.artech-inc.com/

cool i like their work! at least better than the other local architects.

[williamchung taiwan]

you mean artech? http://www.artech-inc.com/

cool i like their work! at least better than the other local architects.

you get it !

[pierre-laurent]

you mean artech? http://www.artech-inc.com/

cool i like their work! at least better than the other local architects.i viewed their site and their work is really not bad!!:yes:

[metroXpress]

Thanks for the link to it...not bad!

[williamchung taiwan]

The current information I get, the height is added to 200m+!:cool:
The previous height is 194.95m......:D

[Norman Y.]

Glad to hear this news!
Hope it will start the construction soon.

[metroXpress]

The current information I get, the height is added to 200m+!:cool:
The previous height is 194.95m......:D

Time to change the title of the thread...who's a mod :cool:

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrpars.tw by c_jack2004

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I'm still waiting the final design of this project, but there is construction work in the site.

[metroXpress]

^ they are finally working on the ground level.

Will the final design be over 200m+

[R@ptor]

Here's a photo I took recently.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2572/4072543678_dc9d1809e7_o.jpg

[Razqal]

doesnt look like it's changed much from a month ago. :sly: