[williamchung taiwan]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/7.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Taipeitwins.jpg





from
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/forum/viewthread.php?tid=89862&extra=page%3D1&page=61

by 白

6/24
Continuous wall 58%

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_0110-1.jpg


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[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.cn
by 白



8/26
continuous wall seen to be completed
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_4211.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_4212.jpg

[Australiasian]

going no where still? the site has been like that for ages guys!

[williamchung taiwan]

going no where still? the site has been like that for ages guys!

There is a MRT beneath the Gate of Taipei which is airport line.

[Razqal]

i hope they keep that little park. and even expand it. the city needs more green open space and trees cuz it's so polluted and dense.

[ed21x]

eh? i live in manhattan right now, feel free to come by if you want to see dense and polluted. after living here, going to taipei is a breath of very fresh air. and besides, have you ever stopped complaining about taiwan?

[Razqal]

eh? i live in manhattan right now, feel free to come by if you want to see dense and polluted. after living here, going to taipei is a breath of very fresh air. and besides, have you ever stopped complaining about taiwan?

i'm originally from nyc too. if you live in manhattan than you should know central park takes up a huge chunk of manhattan and just a subway ride from any part of the island. and there's other squares and smaller parks that dot the island and very well maintained, e.g., madison square park, gramercy park, cloisters, battery park etc. not to mention flushing meadows, brooklyn botanical, bronx botanical, etc. in the other boroughs. and the air in nyc is generally better than in taipei. having those parklands definitely help.

i complain about nyc and los angeles too, btw. :D

[ed21x]

ahh... in that case, as long as every place gets criticized equally :) One thing that I've noticed about Taiwanese people is that they tend to criticize Taiwan disproportionately compared to people from other cities, and there is a general lack of civic pride... although it is getting better now. And yeah, you're right, NYC does have alot of designated parks and nice areas. However, the places that are NOT nice are also dangerous, which is a main factor that makes Taipei (and Taiwan for that matter) appealing. No matter how run down a place is, it is still safe to walk around in. I would take the most run down places of Taipei over the Bronx, Harlem, Long Beach, South Central LA any day of the week.

[williamchung taiwan]

I do not want to say about air or environmentm, but I suppose that New York and Taipei are totally different cities. New York is traditional western style city and Taipei is similar to Japanese cities. It is hard to say which city is better. In some particular areas, for example public transport. Taipei MRT is one the best MRTs in the world. But you can say that New York has one of the most beautiful skylines in the world. It's really just depended on which point you are looking.

Street vendor is an interesting thing. Most Aisan cities have street vandor. In Taiwan, is night market.
Here is a report I find from internet:
http://www.apsa2005.net/FullPapers/PdfFormat/Full%20Paper%20(A-H)/Atsushi%20Deguchi.pdf

[duabi]

I found this in "Urban Design in Cities of Taiwan" page 79

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6643/011wx9.jpg

1. 1984 KMG
2. 1989 Sasaki

Looks like..not much has been done since then lol

[Australiasian]

I found this in "Urban Design in Cities of Taiwan" page 79

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6643/011wx9.jpg

1. 1984 KMG
2. 1989 Sasaki

Looks like..not much has been done since then lol

oh my god, it just shows how grossly inefficient the taiwanese government is!! 20 years down the track and still nothing?

[williamchung taiwan]

Actually, the plan is changed like this
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/f50dd1ad.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/2.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/3.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/4.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/5.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/6.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/7.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/8.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/9.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/990ac9ba.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/1-3.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/2-3.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/3-3.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/4-2.jpg

[williamchung taiwan]

However, the plan is still changing.

[pierre-laurent]

it's time that the dated taipei main station is renovated. whole the urban environment around is evolving...

[jjl]

Wait.. I liked the original tower designs. What the heck is going on?!

[Coyett]

Wait.. I liked the original tower designs. What the heck is going on?!

Nothing going on, the original plan for Maki's towers is still in the works. William's post is not one but actually three completely unrelated projects; Central Park, The Gate of Taipei, and the TDC business center near the corner of Zhongshan. I've listed them according to architect in the "Downtown" thread. ;)

[williamchung taiwan]

Here's detail of central station urban planning (2006)

台北車站特區 E1 E2暫予保留區先期規劃

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Snap1-1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Snap2.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Snap3.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Snap4.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Snap5.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Snap6.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Snap7.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Snap8.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Snap9.jpg

[Razqal]

Are They Going To Build That Gate Of Taipei Already And If So When???????

[Coyett]

Are They Going To Build That Gate Of Taipei Already And If So When???????

Construction of the Gate of Taipei can only begin after the bus station has been relocated to itaipei. My best guess would be sometime in early 2010.

[Australiasian]

hurry up already!

[anyiliang]

Construction of the Gate of Taipei can only begin after the bus station has been relocated to itaipei. My best guess would be sometime in early 2010.

Is iTaipei that building, the one that looks like four?

[williamchung taiwan]

桃園國際機場聯外捷運線ca450b標

臺北車站特定區c1/d1大樓與臺北站共構土木結構及電梯、電扶梯工程順利決標(2008.11.28)



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桃園國際機場聯外捷運線「ca450b標臺北車站特定區c1/d1大樓與臺北站共構土木結構及電梯、電扶梯工程」第二次招標，



於11月21日正式公告發售標案，在今（28）日開標，共有3家廠商參與投標，



由互助營造股份有限公司以新臺幣玖拾參億伍仟捌佰萬元整得標。



機場線ca450b標為臺北站(a1車站)及聯開大樓地面主體工程，位於臺北站特定專用區c1及d1東半街廓基地上，



為地下四層之建築，地下第四層為停車場，地下第三層為桃園機場捷運a1車站之月台層，地下二層、一層為車站大廳層，



其基地上方為兩棟商業聯開大樓，c1街廓大樓為地上56層大樓， D1東半街廓基地大樓為地上76層大樓，

The underground construction which contain Taipei main station and Gate of Taipei is going to start.

[williamchung taiwan]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/68785103-1.jpg

[williamchung taiwan]

11/02/09
from skyscrapers.tw by templer
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/IMG_1795.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/IMG_1801.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/IMG_1795.jpg

[Australiasian]

have they even started laying out foundations?

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/1_zTji198Ycqrt.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/2_sVOxrPflTJBF.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/3_1J81UX5O6FxL.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/4_eoeghNCy4RUh.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/5_oOieMWU0nYhQ.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/6_qPQFvXfMtWko.jpg

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http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/9_3SeUjbj9kYPJ.jpg

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http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/16_Qj5hpYO6TUSa.jpg

[Razqal]

thanks for the new post. are they going to build this sucker already??

[williamchung taiwan]

Still waiting for MRT A1 station complete , the reason is it is part of Gate of Taipei foundation and basement and also the removal of bus interchange in
D1 site which will be relocated in I-Taipie.

[Razqal]

Still waiting for MRT A1 station complete , the reason is it is part of Gate of Taipei foundation and basement and also the removal of bus interchange in
D1 site which will be relocated in I-Taipie.

but isnt gate of taipei right across the street from taipei main station? why do they need another mrt station under gate of taipei?

[ed21x]

but isnt gate of taipei right across the street from taipei main station? why do they need another mrt station under gate of taipei?

A1 refers specifically to the Airport Access MRT stop, which is accessible via underground passage from Taipei Main Station, but will be directly under these towers. I'm assuming they probably ran out of space at TMS, or maybe having a separate area for the Airport Link is better logistically as TMS is already congested and overburdened. Moving the bus hub away from TMS will also do well to remove congestion in that area.

[anyiliang]

but isnt gate of taipei right across the street from taipei main station? why do they need another mrt station under gate of taipei?

It will be just like Hong Kong. In Hong Kong you can take the Express train from the Airport to Central Station on Hong Kong Island. But once you get to Central Station you have to walk under a long tunnel to access the MTR.

[Coyett]

Beimen - Taipei Aiport MRT Terminal -Taipei Main Station

[sungFFman]

Does anyone know when the bus terminal will be moved to iTaipei? Honestly, the current one is horrible.

No air conditioning? You kidding me, feels like walking into a furnace.

[williamchung taiwan]

Does anyone know when the bus terminal will be moved to iTaipei? Honestly, the current one is horrible.

No air conditioning? You kidding me, feels like walking into a furnace.

Sadly, the bus companies find there is problem for circulation of ITaipei. They also find the bus driver is hard to drive the bus inside ITaipei.

[anyiliang]

I was told by a Ho-Hsin Staff member that they should be moving over there in July.

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw by 白

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_8900-2.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_8900.jpg

[Razqal]

cool!!! finally some construction!!

you know something i noticed about construction projects in taiwan: they dont seem to build big holes in the ground but build right on the surface. is that right? dont they need to build foundations below ground and space for a parking garage?

if you check out construction projects in this forum like in new york city, they tend to build huge holes tens of feet below the surface.

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw

These pictures were all taken by 白

The photo which took in 2007.

1.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/1-1.jpg




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http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/12-1.jpg

[williamchung taiwan]

These photos are taken in 2008.


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[williamchung taiwan]

They excavate the site first and dig a couple of holes on it. One of these holes is use to remove underground water. And then they put the continous retaining wall in remain two hole and pour concrete into. I think underground foundation is in process and we can not see from the surface.

(Continous retaining wall is about 50m deep....)

For information, I think we need to ask engineer....

[Razqal]

They excavate the site first and dig a couple of holes on it. One of these holes is use to remove underground water. And then they put the continous retaining wall in remain two hole and pour concrete into. I think underground foundation is in process and we can not see from the surface.

(Continous retaining wall is about 50m deep....)

For information, I think we need to ask engineer....

i dont see how you can build a foundation without building a hole from the surface. usually you just dig a big hole and pour concrete for the retaining walls and floors and then put in the pillars for the structure, etc. like at world trade center new york city:


(look how big and deep this hole is)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706999/large.jpg

[metroXpress]

holy smokes....this is even taller than Vancouver's tallest (197m)

[williamchung taiwan]

i dont see how you can build a foundation without building a hole from the surface. usually you just dig a big hole and pour concrete for the retaining walls and floors and then put in the pillars for the structure, etc. like at world trade center new york city:


(look how big and deep this hole is)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706999/large.jpg

Everything I say in my last respond is depend on these photos I posted, but I not an engineer. I just say what I saw from photos and also some infromation from skyscrapers.tw. And, the A1 station is in process, it is part of the foundation of this twin tower. From this point, I guess the underground construction is still going and we just can not see from surface.

I also hear from skyscrapers.tw, they use some construction tech same as use for tunnel.

Unfortunately, I'm not engineer......
I really think it is better ask engineer staff.
And there are a lot of construction tech, maybe it is one you not often see in Amercia.

[Razqal]

Everything I say in my last respond is depend on these photos I posted, but I not an engineer. I just say what I saw from photos and also some infromation from skyscrapers.tw. And, the A1 station is in process, it is part of the foundation of this twin tower. From this point, I guess the underground construction is still going and we just can not see from surface.

I also hear from skyscrapers.tw, they use some construction tech same as use for tunnel.

Unfortunately, I'm not engineer......
I really think it is better ask engineer staff.
And there are a lot of construction tech, maybe it is one you not often see in Amercia.

okay tank yoo xie xie chop chop!! :cool:

[williamchung taiwan]

okay tank yoo xie xie chop chop!! :cool:
I don't understand what you try to say!:rolleyes:
Is it kind of English?:P

[metroXpress]

okay tank yoo xie xie chop chop!! :cool:

than koo bery mach....I understand!@!:rolleyes:

[Razqal]

I don't understand what you try to say!:rolleyes:
Is it kind of English?:P

me no speaka no engwish. me speaka chingwish!! chop chop!! :haha:

[williamchung taiwan]

from skyscrapers.tw from 白

23/08/09
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_9356.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_9349-1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj12/williamchung7/Taipei%20city/Gate%20of%20taipei/DSC_9349.jpg

[metroXpress]

what a clear view of the site...thanks!

[williamchung taiwan]

The tendering of superstructure for this project still haven't get any tenders come to take. The reason is residentail project have much higher internal rate of return than official project in these ten years. And also most Taiwan big companies are manufacture and IT, they don't need a lot of office space. Economic recession is also affect the rent....
These factors come together result no tenderers.