[omro]

Hi,

Feel free to delete this thread after this question has been answered.

I remember a thread which contained a few photos of big empty buildings, one was a big red brick building, looked like it might have been a school or something, a total shame to have been left unused for something. I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of that thread as I can't find the bugger.

Feel free to PM me the answer if you know it, then it's easier to kill this thread off. Thanks.

[Millstone]

Stinson?

[highwater]

I'm pretty sure Stinson's still in use, and it's not red, so I don't think that's it.

[astroblaster]

federal building on main and caroline

http://www.flickr.com/photos/emangrooving/2348042092/in/photostream/

?

[omro]

federal building on main and caroline

http://www.flickr.com/photos/emangrooving/2348042092/in/photostream/

?

That could be it, though the photo I remember was in this forum I'm sure.

[markbarbera]

You may be thinking of 220 Dundurn, which has its own thread in the "urban issues" discussion thread. Or perhaps the former Camco building which is being renovated as the principle building in McMaster University's Innovation Park, which I believe has a thread in the same section (although the discussion was effectively hijacked as yet another big box good/bad debate).

[raisethehammer]

"big, empty building" in Hamilton??
this thread could go on for pages. Lol.

[FairHamilton]

Was it a large home (at one time)? If so, it could be flar's picture of the house on Wentworth, with the neighbouring empty apartment building.

You can find it on this thread; http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=151749

[omro]

Was it a large home (at one time)? If so, it could be flar's picture of the house on Wentworth, with the neighbouring empty apartment building.

You can find it on this thread; http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=151749

No it wasn't that one, it was that thread which reminded me.

[omro]

Ah ha!

I've found the bugger.

I was showing a friend some of Flar's photo tours, to show him where I'd be moving to and came across the building in the Downtown in Canada's worst major city (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=144966) thread.

This is the building I remember:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/downtown2008/00053.jpg

So where is this building? What was it? Will new life be breathed into it one day?

[matt602]

That's the old Federal building. It's on Main between Caroline and Bay. The Hamilton Motor Products building used to be it's neighbour to the East. It's owned by Darko Vranich who intends to convert it into condo's. He has intended to do that for years, however. It's largely empty and stripped down on the inside, used as hotel furniture storage. Definitely a building with LOTS of unrealized potential.

[coalminecanary]

the official story is that the condo project will not be feasible until they find a major tenant for the main floor - which is a wide open space with high ceilings and marble floors I believe. Not an easy space to fill.

I tried at one point to convince MEC to locate there, but they put their new store in burlington instead, sadly (http://www.mecinhamilton.neenerneet.net/burlingtonbad.html).

But something tells me that vranich is not really that interested in getting the project off the ground. In the end, MEC did not move in simply because Hamilton did not meet their criteria of targeting the Oakville market. BUt during the whole process, the city actually worked really hard to get MEC on side - at one point I think they sent a councillor to speak with MEC directly. Meanwhile, the "developer" never said peep. I don't think he's really trying to fill that first floor, hence the entire building sits empty.

I would like to see a flagship retail location in there - even if it is a value village, it would be better than nothing!

I have more pictures of the old federal building here. (http://www.mecinhamilton.neenerneet.net/fedbuilding.html)

[omro]

Oh so both buildings are owned by the same developer? Surely it costs more to keep it empty than do do something with it? It's a shame, it's a nice building. I remember being struck by it's potential and the waste of just leaving it empty when I first saw it.

[go_leafs_go02]

Haha.

I thought it was slated for demolition, and just for some reason, it wasn't taken down due to who knows what..asbestos? who knows. I thought that due to the big hole out of the back of the building.

[coalminecanary]

that hole was created when hmp came down. i think they were kind of attached somehow?

[omro]

So it's going to ultimately be demolished due to neglect?

[geoff's two cents]

Definitely a building with LOTS of unrealized potential.

Couldn't agree more - Anybody ever considered putting a grocery store in there? Its proximity to the high density Durand neighborhood, high ceilings, and the lack of a good grocery store nearby (within walking distance, with heavy bags) makes it seem like a no-brainer.

That building has irked me since I moved here - Anybody know the precise reason the feds abandoned it in the first place? Such a shame to see it go to waste. . .

Has the city ever taken action on negligent property owners that disfigure the core by letting otherwise sound buildings go to waste? I seem to recall the city of Vancouver taking action in the early 90s on absentee residential landlords who let their properties go to seed - I believe their properties were expropriated if they didn't clean them up in a certain amount of time. . . Now there's a thought!

[geoff's two cents]

By the way, thanks for posting this omro - I, for one, hope the post isn't deleted (though perhaps the name could be changed), as it would be great to brainstorm, rant, etc.

Which brings me to another thought: Has there ever been any organized protest in Hamilton concerning properties (such as the Lister Block and the fed building) that are allowed to go to waste? Any protests, that is, directed against the negligent property owners themselves?

Perhaps LIUNA has its own squad of protest-busting auxiliary police?

[omro]

That building has irked me since I moved here - Anybody know the precise reason the feds abandoned it in the first place? Such a shame to see it go to waste. . .

I agree, total waste. I also wonder why it was abandoned. It would make awesome apartments.

What was the Federal building? Federal what?

[omro]

By the way, thanks for posting this omro - I, for one, hope the post isn't deleted (though perhaps the name could be changed), as it would be great to brainstorm, rant, etc.

Happy to change the name if anyone can suggest a better, assuming I can change the name, if not we can ask Flar or Steeltown nicely if they'll change it.

I started the thread because I didn't know which building I'd seen. Turns out astroblaster was spot on with his/her guess (thanks btw!!), I wasn't initially sure because I hadn't remembered the concrete parts - thought the building was all red brick - it was only when I saw Flar's photo that shows the entire building that my memory clicked back into place.

[go_leafs_go02]

By the way, thanks for posting this omro - I, for one, hope the post isn't deleted (though perhaps the name could be changed), as it would be great to brainstorm, rant, etc.

Which brings me to another thought: Has there ever been any organized protest in Hamilton concerning properties (such as the Lister Block and the fed building) that are allowed to go to waste? Any protests, that is, directed against the negligent property owners themselves?

Perhaps LIUNA has its own squad of protest-busting auxiliary police?
People here honestly don't have pride for their city that way. I'm noticing that everywhere. No one cares about upkeep really. Look at how many weeds are sprouting up EVERYWHERE, sidewalks, curbs, anywhere. It's just been like this for so long, people are just used to it, and seem to be content with the 'status-quo'

I find people do like this city, but they're people who have grown up and lived here their entire life. Of course, there's transplants that see the untapped potential in this city, and live to like it. But yeah, I don't know why there is such apathy in alot of ways in this cities.

[geoff's two cents]

As far as I know, the building was/is the National Revenue Building, and the offices relocated to the newer federal building on Bay St. across from Copps. I could be wrong, but that's my understanding. . . I seem to recall being enlightened on this forum months ago by someone better versed in these matters than I. .

As for new thread title suggestions, perhaps it could read "National Revenue Building | Abandoned"?

[flar]

Have a look at this thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=158495
If there were expropriation for neglected buildings, the city of Hamilton would own more properties than Donald Trump.

[omro]

What's this building?

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/staticvoid/00139.jpg

BTW, is still the right subforum for this topic, now the building has been identified?

[SteelTown]

That's the former Westinghouse headquarters (Canadian).

[omro]

It boggles my mind that these amazing buildings are allowed to be left to rot, what is up with Hamilton's powers that be!:hell:

[astroblaster]

urns out astroblaster was spot on with his/her guess (thanks btw!!), I wasn't initially sure because I hadn't remembered the concrete parts - thought the building was all red brick - it was only when I saw Flar's photo that shows the entire building that my memory clicked back into place.

his. :)

no problem. wish i could have provided better photos at the time.

im glad the mystery is solved now.

[SteelTown]

The problem with Westinghouse building is that it's right next to Siemens and the City rejected a bid to put residential units in that building because of the industrial noise. Only office will likely be approved and that's likely never to happen with that building.

[FairHamilton]

It boggles my mind that these amazing buildings are allowed to be left to rot, what is up with Hamilton's powers that be!:hell:

Great question!!! I think there is change in the air in Hamilton, though unfortunately it's a deep gorge that we need to climb out of after so many years.

A difficult task, but not an impossible one. There's a lot of 'old guard' in Hamilton and they need to be pushed aside.

I think keeping positive momentum, and taking on 'doable' tasks is key. The Guerilla Gardening exercise this past weekend show a task that is doable and "betters" the city. It's something to build on to more and greater issues.

[omro]

his. :)

no problem. wish i could have provided better photos at the time.

im glad the mystery is solved now.

:-) If this had been a competition, you'd have won a prize!

There were no problems with your photos, only my memory and brain. I only saw the building once full on and it wasn't enough of an impression to allow me to recognise the building from the other photos, however now that I can see both, it is clearly the same building.

[omro]

The problem with Westinghouse building is that it's right next to Siemens and the City rejected a bid to put residential units in that building because of the industrial noise. Only office will likely be approved and that's likely never to happen with that building.

Was this originally an office building? Who currently owns it?

If it can only be used as an office building, why not entrust it to a charity for their admin building, say they can have it rent free, as long as they maintain the building, which would keep the building alive and bring new workers to the city. Just a thought.

[astroblaster]

As far as I know, the building was/is the National Revenue Building, and the offices relocated to the newer federal building on Bay St. across from Copps. I could be wrong, but that's my understanding. . . I seem to recall being enlightened on this forum months ago by someone better versed in these matters than I. .


thats the general understanding i have as well, although i'd like to add that i know someone who worked in this building and their office has been moved to the ESC office in the fortinos plaza at upper james & rymal

[IronWarrior]

I agree, total waste. I also wonder why it was abandoned. It would make awesome apartments.

What was the Federal building? Federal what?

It was a goverment office building...if memory serves me correct it closed its doors before 2000? and has been abandoned since, I think you used to go there to get your tax papers, pay parking tickets, stuff basically like that.

[omro]

It was a goverment office building...if memory serves me correct it closed its doors before 2000? and has been abandoned since, I think you used to go there to get your tax papers, pay parking tickets, stuff basically like that.

What was so wrong with that building that the local government decided to move things to another building they owned, or worse built or bought a new building?

[flar]

What's this building?

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/staticvoid/00139.jpg


I'd really like to see something happen with this. I believe this building has a heritage designation. It is in extremely poor condition.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/oddstuff/00129.jpg

That brings me to another thing, Buffalo has a lot of empty buildings, but they (at least the ones downtown) seem to be in much better shape than our empty buildings. They are generally cleaner, more securely boarded up and in decent repair.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/buffalo/DSC_0062.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/buffalo/DSC_0084.jpg

[highwater]

That brings me to another thing, Buffalo has a lot of empty buildings, but they (at least the ones downtown) seem to be in much better shape than our empty buildings. They are generally cleaner, more securely boarded up and in decent repair.

Judging from the pics, it looks like they may have been built to a higher standard in the first place, which helps.

[omro]

So when were these two beasties built?

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/downtown2008/00053.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/oddstuff/00129.jpg

To my mind they're great buildings.

[FairHamilton]

It's been a while since I was last around the Westinghouse Building, but I think it was built just pre-WWI. Sometime around 1912 - 1914.

[FairHamilton]

Judging from the pics, it looks like they may have been built to a higher standard in the first place, which helps.

It seems to me that getting Property Standards enforced in Hamilton is sometimes tougher than pulling teeth.

[steel]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/buffalo/DSC_0084.jpg


This building in Buffalo is not abandoned. It is a parking Garage. It was originally a livery (for horses). The windows are boarded up because the owner has no clue to how much of a treasure this structure is

[MsMe]

I found this info on Westinghouse but not sure which year that particular building was built though.

1897 - First Westinghouse manufacturing operation outside of the United Sates was established in Hamilton, Ontario.

1905 - A second Westinghouse plant is constructed in Hamilton, the early role of this facility was the manufacture of motors and generators of less than 50 horsepower.

[highwater]

Definitely after 1905.

[MsMe]

The style didn't look those ages to me either. The style looks later to me.

[matt602]

There's a time capsule on the front of the building. I can't remember what year it was, however.

[flar]

It was built in 1917. The top two stories were added in 1928.


From Hamilton's Heritage Vol. 5:


Designed by the predecessor of Prack & Prack, architects of the Pigott Building
(1929) and the Lister Block (1923), the building is representative of the
industrial office buildings designed by Canadian architects in the early 20th
century. The Westinghouse head office was an attractive and functional
building designed to accommodate the company’s needs as well as to project a
successful corporate image. The advanced reinforced concrete construction is
expressed in the grid-like composition of the building’s two end sections.
Emphasis is given to the top and bottom floors, through the use of a decorative
stone cornice, string courses, and arched window and door surrounds with
prominent keystones. Another noteworthy feature of the original design was the
suspended ornamental metal canopy over the main entrance doorway
(removed in 1969 or 1970). Decorative plaques between the arched openings
of the first storey feature the Westinghouse initials.

[flar]

I changed the name of this thread to "Big empty buildings"

We can continue to talk about big empty buildings here since there are quite a few.

[omro]

And when was the federal building built? To be honest that actually looks very modern, which is why I'm shocked that it's empty.

[matt602]

Federal building was the 1950's. 1955 or 1951 I believe.

[omro]

Federal building was the 1950's. 1955 or 1951 I believe.

That's a much more attractive building for the 1950s than anywhere in the UK built, our 50's buildings are bloody awful. Grey concrete horror stories.

The mix of brick and cream concrete "stonework" makes that building actually look like something built in a much more modern style. Such a shame it was abandoned. I wonder why.

[astroblaster]

Grey concrete horror stories.

Sounds like Brutalist style. we have a few of those, but I like them.

hamilton place, central library, that building across from st. joes hospital could all be considered Brutalist.

http://www.raisethehammer.org/index.asp?id=097

http://www.ontarioarchitecture.com/Brutalist.htm

[raisethehammer]

That's a much more attractive building for the 1950s than anywhere in the UK built, our 50's buildings are bloody awful. Grey concrete horror stories.

The mix of brick and cream concrete "stonework" makes that building actually look like something built in a much more modern style. Such a shame it was abandoned. I wonder why.

the feds needed more office space and built us that crappy new office building on Bay St north.

[astroblaster]

From Hamilton's Heritage Vol. 5:

WOW, i've looked at some of the LACAC documents, but never opened up volume 5. this is tremendous. what an awesome resource.

Thanks!

[omro]

Well this is unfortunately from the 60s, it's where I went to university, but it was inspired by buildings from the time and was a common style in the late 50s and 60s. I found this photo on movie-locations.com as the site has been used in a number of 60s and 70s film shoots.

http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/c/clockwork_brunel.gif

Grey, drab, ugly, depressing. All of our prospectus photos showed the building through the branches of trees. I believe they've encouraged ivy to grow all over it now.

[matt602]

Looks like Hamilton Place :P

http://www.hecfi.on.ca/hamiltonplace/

[omro]

the feds needed more office space and built us that crappy new office building on Bay St north.

I wonder if they still need all that space and if they've downsized...

Depressing that they'd just abandon the building and waste more public money building somewhere newer and probably uglier.

[IronWarrior]

What was so wrong with that building that the local government decided to move things to another building they owned, or worse built or bought a new building?

You know as much as me....and a new government building was built!! a few years back on Bay Street across from Copps Coliseum, its the 'new' Federal building........while the old one is just left vacant....I know! makes no sense.

[FairHamilton]

You know as much as me....and a new government building was built!! a few years back on Bay Street across from Copps Coliseum, its the 'new' Federal building........while the old one is just left vacant....I know! makes no sense.

SHEILA!!!!!! (yelled like Fred Flintstone would)

[raisethehammer]

WOW, i've looked at some of the LACAC documents, but never opened up volume 5. this is tremendous. what an awesome resource.

Thanks!

where can I find it??

[FairHamilton]

where can I find it??

Want to find it, then apply for the committee; http://www.myhamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyres/D5D33EBB-BCDE-456B-B341-A7BE0A8CBE28/0/HAMILTONMUNICIPALHERITAGE_formerlyLACAC_.pdf

I was disappointed not one post to my thread, http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=158040.

Either those interested applied and wanted to keep it quiet to avoid competition, or this forum is much more talk than action. I honestly don't know which, but I'm quickly formulating an opinion.

[raisethehammer]

thanks for the links. With so many threads on this site, it's easy to miss some.
I'd love to join, but have been invited to join the Gore Park planning committee and have been involved in my community council along with meetings at city hall about LRT. I've got no time for anything else on my plate.

[astroblaster]

I was disappointed not one post to my thread, http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=158040.

Either those interested applied and wanted to keep it quiet to avoid competition, or this forum is much more talk than action. I honestly don't know which, but I'm quickly formulating an opinion.


actually, i looked at this with a lot of interest, but the meeting times don't work for me at all.

Monthly – 3rd or 4th Thursday
12:00 Noon
Meetings are held in Room 207, 2nd Floor
Hamilton Convention Centre

perhaps one day i will be able to join. but for now i'll be on the sidelines.

[highwater]

Want to find it, then apply for the committee; http://www.myhamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyres/D5D33EBB-BCDE-456B-B341-A7BE0A8CBE28/0/HAMILTONMUNICIPALHERITAGE_formerlyLACAC_.pdf

I was disappointed not one post to my thread, http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=158040.

Either those interested applied and wanted to keep it quiet to avoid competition, or this forum is much more talk than action. I honestly don't know which, but I'm quickly formulating an opinion.

I've always had my eye on LACAC sometime down the road when the kids are bigger and my current projects are more established. I actually interviewed for a summer job with the Hamilton LACAC back when they actually had money to hire summer students (I'm that old). I didn't get it. I was a whippersnapper from TO and knew next to nothing about Hamilton at the time. If I'd known then what I know now...:)

[Jon Dalton]

Monthly – 3rd or 4th Thursday
12:00 Noon
Meetings are held in Room 207, 2nd Floor
Hamilton Convention Centre


That's great, unless you happen to WORK during normal work hours!

[FairHamilton]

That's great, unless you happen to WORK during normal work hours!

Unfortunately, I've noticed that setting things such as this during the work day, seems to almost be done by design to limit the type of candidates that apply.

Seems to me that setting the time during the day (and it's done for many city things) would encourage many retirees to be participants on the committees. Not that I have anything against retirees, but different points of view are always welcome.

[hammergirl]

My dad worked in the Westinghouse building for 39 years. He met my mom there.

It was quite the building when it was in use...lots of brass trim and an executive dining room with a very large round wooden table. Breaks my heart to see it abandoned and run down like that.

[omro]

Could someone please create a google map which shows where these buildings are? I haven't a clue where the Westinghouse building is.

Are there other big empty buildings we should be adding to this discussion.

Maybe we should define big to mean something more than 3 floors or more than just a large former family home? Any better ideas for the classification?

[astroblaster]

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=43.260831,-79.858074&spn=0.031628,0.066261&t=h&z=14&msid=107455493689433802702.000458445366ce9870041

[omro]

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=43.260831,-79.858074&spn=0.031628,0.066261&t=h&z=14&msid=107455493689433802702.000458445366ce9870041

Cool map :)

So what other big empty buildings should be added to it?

[astroblaster]

added the dundurn south and royal connaught buildings to the map.

[astroblaster]

Sanatorium hospital brow building

http://historicalhamilton.com/the-mountain/chedoke-hospital-brow-building/

[astroblaster]

Century Manor at the hamilton psychiatric hospital


(don't have my own image of this building available from here, linking to something from the net)


http://hamiltonparanormal.com/centurymanor/century6.jpg (http://hamiltonparanormal.com/centurymanor/century6.jpg)

[FairHamilton]

Lister Block & City Hall could be added.

[astroblaster]

Lister Block & City Hall could be added.

done

[omro]

not sure if this can be done, but can you have the google map also show a photo of each place in a pop up box, where a photo is available?

[matt602]

If you guys want some more:

- Lyric/Century theatre on Mary St., just North of King on the East side.
- Tivoli Theatre auditorium (Hughson just North of Wilson on the West side)
- Lister buildings (not just the Lister Block but also the buildings immediately North in the same block, along Rebecca. LIUNA owns these as well. Surprise, surprise.)
- Firestone (Burlington St just Northeast of Kenilworth intersection, immediately East of National Steel Car)
- Consumers Glass (between Barton, Gage, Lottridge and the CN tracks, nearest to Gage)
- Hamilton Metals (right near the Mac Innovation Park, bordering with Aberdeen at the CP Rail bridge)

There's TONS more, those are just the popular ones. I can provide photos of any of these buildings as well, if requested.

[raisethehammer]

I told you this thread would go on for pages...lol

[astroblaster]

not sure if this can be done, but can you have the google map also show a photo of each place in a pop up box, where a photo is available?

i might be able to do this... either directly in google maps, or with the google maps api on historicalhamilton

i'll look into it tonight

[astroblaster]

ok, adding a pic was pretty easy within google maps itself, so i put pictures under the federal building and city hall now

i have photos of a few of these buildings, but if you want to provide some matt, here's what i would need:

- Tivoli Theatre auditorium
- the other Lister buildings
- Firestone
- Consumers Glass
- Hamilton Metals
- the dundurn south factory building

[astroblaster]

oh.. and please do list more if you can, i'd love to learn about all of these. i will map them all and work on getting photos if nobody has them yet.

[omro]

oh.. and please do list more if you can, i'd love to learn about all of these. i will map them all and work on getting photos if nobody has them yet.

I'm impressed, that's very cool

Isn't there a Mohawk college building that is now vacant or did I misread that from somewhere, as I often do?

[go_leafs_go02]

I'm impressed, that's very cool

Isn't there a Mohawk college building that is now vacant or did I misread that from somewhere, as I often do?
Well..the whole campus (Fennell) should be vacated :sarcasm:

but as for that campus, nope, nothing there is vacant. In fact, we built a brand new building.. supposedly temporary..on top of a parking lot.

Brilliant I say..Brilliant!

[astroblaster]

i think omro might be talking about the wentworth campus near wentworth and barton. i dont know whats up with that building, but i remember a thread mentioning it a few months ago

[go_leafs_go02]

i think omro might be talking about the wentworth campus near wentworth and barton. i dont know whats up with that building, but i remember a thread mentioning it a few months ago
Mohawk has 3 campuses I believe.
One out in stoney Creek, the Fennell one (which I go to) and one out in Brantford.

[omro]

i think omro might be talking about the wentworth campus near wentworth and barton. i dont know whats up with that building, but i remember a thread mentioning it a few months ago

Wentworth Campus Building (http://www.mohawkcollege.ca/Discover/maps/Wentworth.html)

I was under the impression that this building was no longer used, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[SteelTown]

No that's a community centre that Mohawk College runs. Students can volunteer and co-op.

[drpgq]

- Hamilton Metals (right near the Mac Innovation Park, bordering with Aberdeen at the CP Rail bridge)


Are there any plans for this site as eventually part of the Innovation Park?

[SteelTown]

^ Demo.....developer wants to add retail on that land.

[omro]

No that's a community centre that Mohawk College runs. Students can volunteer and co-op.

Phew, that'd have been a waste of a building and no mistake!

[flar]

Hamilton Metals would make a sweet grocery store or market. It shouldn't be torn down. In Baltimore they turned a huge old factory like that into a shopping mall.

[highwater]

Are there any plans for this site as eventually part of the Innovation Park?

That was the hope, but Trinity Developments wants to turn it into big box retail.

[drpgq]

That was the hope, but Trinity Developments wants to turn it into big box retail.

Ah, ok. Now I know what area Trinity is referring to. That's too bad.

[matt602]

ok, adding a pic was pretty easy within google maps itself, so i put pictures under the federal building and city hall now

i have photos of a few of these buildings, but if you want to provide some matt, here's what i would need:

- Tivoli Theatre auditorium
- the other Lister buildings
- Firestone
- Consumers Glass
- Hamilton Metals
- the dundurn south factory building

Tivoli:

(unfortunately the only interior that I've shot, not many of it's fine details are in this shot. I also don't really have an exterior shot because it's honestly not very interesting at all)

http://flickr.com/photos/juggybiv/2414705321/in/set-72157604526634178/

Here's the main "other Lister building", the Thomas building. No interiors because it's a rather boring, stripped out and dangerous shell.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/sugarton/Downtown%20Hamilton/thomas.jpg

Firestone:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/sugarton/UE/firestone-reflections.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/sugarton/UE/Firestone/firestone-may038.jpg

Consumers Glass:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k201/sugarton/UE/1.jpg



I'll try to fill in the blanks as I come across more photos.

[Millstone]

- Lister buildings (not just the Lister Block but also the buildings immediately North in the same block, along Rebecca. LIUNA owns these as well. Surprise, surprise.)

From the roof of my building (shh) you can get a great view of the flooded roofs of these buildings.

[astroblaster]

i've added more photos to the map. thanks matt

[matt602]

From the roof of my building (shh) you can get a great view of the flooded roofs of these buildings.

And similarly I can get a great view into the units in your building if the blinds aren't drawn :P I've gotten a couple of people to stare from their kitchen windows.

The roof of your building however is not something I have experience with. I am interested though. I love roofs.

[omro]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/downtown2008/00053.jpg

Walked past this today, shame it's in such a ratty condition :-(

It actually looks in worse shape today than it does in the photo.

[crhayes]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/downtown2008/00053.jpg

Walked past this today, shame it's in such a ratty condition :-(

It actually looks in worse shape today than it does in the photo.

Actually I was going to ask yesterday, does anyone know who this building is owned by?

[oldcoote]

Actually I was going to ask yesterday, does anyone know who this building is owned by?

Vranich, no?

[crhayes]

Vranich, no?

Do you happen to know if anything is planned for this building? OR are they just holding on to it hoping someone will buy/lease it..?

[FairHamilton]

Vranich, no?

Vranich, yes!