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Evergrey
10-27-2008, 07:48 AM
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Californians float a plan: Return of the zeppelin

By TERENCE CHEA, Associated Press Writer Terence Chea, Associated Press Writer Sat Oct 25, 10:10 pm ET

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The Air Ventures Zeppelin flies over the Golden Gate Bridge to complete its cross-country transit flight with the San Francisco skyline in the background in this view from the Marin Headlands above Sausalito, Calif., Saturday, Oct. 25, 2008. The airship, one of only three currently flying anywhere in the world, is the first Zeppelin to fly in the skies over the U.S. in 71 years. Passenger service on the airship will begin next week at nearby Moffett Field. At right the airship is greeted by the fire boat Phoenix.
(AP Photo/Eric Risberg)

SAN FRANCISCO – Zeppelins, the giant floating airships used to carry passengers and drop bombs until the 1930s, haven't been seen in American skies for more than 70 years.

Now a California company is bringing the iconic aircraft back to the United States, with plans to offer aerial tours of the San Francisco Bay area in a newly built zeppelin. It's one of just three in the world — the others are in Germany and Japan.

Airship Ventures Inc.'s zeppelin arrived in the Bay Area on Saturday, passing over the Golden Gate Bridge en route to its new home at Moffett Field, a former naval air station in Mountain View, about 40 miles south of San Francisco.

Fifteen feet longer than a Boeing 747, the 246-foot Zeppelin NT (New Technology) was built in Hamburg, Germany, and transported by container ship to Beaumont, Texas, before a cross-country flight to California.

While they may look like blimps, zeppelins have rigid internal frames that are covered with a canvas hull.

Starting Friday, Airship Ventures will begin offering rides that provide a bird's-eye view of Napa and Sonoma wine country, the Big Sur coastline, San Francisco and other parts of the Bay Area. The cabin holds 12 passengers and two crew members, and tickets start at $495 per person for an one-hour ride.

"It's a way to see the world in a way that you haven't experienced it before," said Brian Hall, a software entrepreneur who started the company last year with his wife, Alexandra. "In a zeppelin, you're flying low and slow. You're going at a leisurely pace. You're seeing things that you wouldn't see from the road."

Invented by Ferdinand von Zeppelin of Germany in the late 19th century, zeppelins were used for commercial passenger transport and military operations until the start of World War II.

The zeppelin's golden age ended in 1937 when the LZ-129 Hindenburg — the largest airship ever built — caught fire and burst into flames in front of thousands of spectators in Lakehurst, N.J., killing 35 of 97 people on board.

A German company, Zeppelin Luftschifftechnik, began building a new zeppelin about decade ago and has been offering passenger rides since 2001.

While the Hindenburg was fueled by flammable hydrogen, the modern version is kept aloft by nonflammable helium. More than 80,000 passengers have ridden without a safety problem, Hall said.

The Halls came up with the business plan for Airship Ventures about two years ago after Brian, 43, took his first zeppelin ride in Cologne, Germany.

The German company agreed to build another zeppelin so that Airship Ventures could start offering rides from its base at Moffett Field, which has three of the country's 13 remaining airship hangars.

Airship Ventures has ordered two more zeppelins, which take about 18 months to build, and plan to offer tours on the East Coast, most likely from New York and Florida, starting in 2010.

Despite the slumping economy, the company hopes to sell about 15,000 tickets a year in the Bay Area, aiming to attract passengers for special occasions such as birthdays, anniversaries and even marriage proposals.

"In a time when you might feel troubled, it's something you can do that's quite uplifting," Hall said.

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On the Net:

Airship Ventures: http://www.airshipventures.com/

the urban politician
10-27-2008, 01:43 PM
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^ I'm always in favor of bringing um back.. :cool:

northbay
10-27-2008, 03:21 PM
tours of sonoma wine country huh?

they better not spy on me

MolsonExport
10-27-2008, 03:29 PM
can they bring back John Bonham too?

Evergrey
10-27-2008, 11:15 PM
I find the sight of a zeppelin quite sinister... reminds me of the zeppelin raids of World War 1

BTinSF
10-28-2008, 01:35 PM
Zeppelin taking to the skies over Bay Area
George Raine, Chronicle Staff Writer
Tuesday, October 28, 2008

(10-27) 18:00 PDT -- Flying in the world's largest airship is a very quiet, smooth-as-silk experience. The six-cylinder aircraft engines hum unobtrusively, allowing the ship's 12 passengers to chat easily among themselves and the crew in the narrow gondola. Grand vistas can be seen through large windows, some of which can be opened.

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That was the view on Monday from Moffett Field, where a new company called Airship Ventures cranked up its marketing machine to introduce zeppelin rides in the United States after a 71-year hiatus brought on by the Hindenburg disaster in 1937, the onset of World War II and the eclipse of ocean liner-in-the-sky airships by airplanes.

Airship Ventures takes off on Friday with four flights from the Mountain View airfield. It's not for everyone: A one-hour flight from either Moffett or Oakland International Airport is $495 per person, and two hours is $950. The company will start using Charles M. Schulz Sonoma County Airport next month, where a one-hour Wine Country ticket is $525 and two hours $975.

It is, however, a terrific ride. For 30 minutes, a group of media members cruised at 1,350 feet and 34 knots with Katharine Board - the only female zeppelin pilot in the world - at the controls.

The zeppelin lands on a dime, and the lift comes from lighter-than-air helium. [b]This is no blimp. Zeppelins have a light, rigid metal and carbon fiber framework that is covered with a synthetic canvas hull - just waiting to be adorned with your company logo for yet another fee. Blimps do not have internal rigid frames.[/i]

Alas, with the gloomy haze shrouding the Bay Area and visibility of no more than 2 1/2 miles, passengers on the flight had to use their imaginations about the picturesque landmarks and vistas that might have been seen through the windows.

As it was, the 246-foot airship hovered and passed over Moffett Field, offering scenes of FEMA trailers and airplane hangars and a great view of the future offices of Airship Ventures, the Silicon Valley startup that had the audacious idea of leasing one of the three zeppelins in the world, hauling it by ship from Hamburg, Germany, to Beaumont, Texas, and then last week flying it in a six-stop route to its new home at Moffett.

The zeppelin took several passes over the new offices. They were the bachelor officers' quarters of the former Moffett Naval Air Station, complete with swimming pool and bar, now being remodeled.

The idea to lease the airship, manufactured in Germany by Zeppelin Luftschifftechnik GmbH, a modern-day offshoot of the historic company that manufactured the original zeppelins, came to Brian Hall, the founder and CEO of Mark/Space, a software company, and his wife Alexandra Hall, the former executive director and CEO of the Chabot Space & Science Center in Oakland.

They knew that the manufacturer's zeppelin sightseeing operation near Lake Constance, at the borders of Switzerland, Austria and Germany, was successful and that it could be that and more in the Bay Area, which has good weather over 10 to 11 months, compared with seven in Germany, and a desirable demographic.

The German operation is so successful, said Michael Schieschke, chief operating officer of Zeppelin Luftschifftechnik, who was aboard Monday, that the company has a backlog of 10,000 tickets. He thinks the business model will thrive here.

"You have magnificent, ever-changing scenery, and as I flew here I thought, if it can't be done here, I don't know where," he said.

True, if the view includes whales, dolphins, coast, Wine Country and more - something more than the NASA Ames Research Center.

Monday's weather and a tanking economy notwithstanding, it is full-speed ahead for Airship Ventures.

'This is a luxury experience," Hall said aboard the third flight of the day Monday. "It's intended to either be a treat for yourself or loved one. We have companies booking it for their top-selling people, people celebrating wedding anniversaries and birthdays."

One of the Halls' investors, Esther Dyson, said she is so impressed with the plan that she is "about to put in a bit more money to help us through the turbulence."

The first charter customer, on Halloween, is a band called Abney Park, which performs in a genre called steampunk - a meld of fantasy and speculative fiction, or what Hall said is something like "Jules Verne meets the Victorian Age."

The day works for Abney Park, because the band will be in San Jose for a steampunk convention. One of its song's is titled "Airship Pirate," which did give Hall some pause.

"We will have to give them the extra frisking so they don't try to commandeer our ship," said Hall.

Hopefully, it will be clear skies for Abney Park, whose members will be coming in costume. The complete, 12-seat gondola for a one-hour flight out of Moffett or Oakland rents for $5,750. It's $6,100 in Sonoma.

Zeppelin rides

Not a blimp: A zeppelin is a rigid airship developed in the late 1800s by German Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin. Characterized by a covered cylindrical frame supported by internal gas cells, it is different from the more common blimp, which does not have a rigid frame.

Tickets: A one-hour flight on Airship Ventures' zeppelin is priced at $495 per person; two hours is $950.

When and where:

Beginning Friday, Airship Ventures will operate at Moffett Field in Mountain View and Oakland International Airport.

Source: Chronicle research

E-mail George Raine at graine@sfchronicle.com.

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volguus zildrohar
10-28-2008, 08:36 PM
Are dirigible flights far behind?

Attrill
10-29-2008, 05:40 AM
I really like the idea, but at almost $500 for an hour ride I'm not sure they're going to have a lot of success. Especially with the economy in the state it is.


I find the sight of a zeppelin quite sinister... reminds me of the zeppelin raids of World War 1

Oh yeah, I remember being bombed by zeppelins. I was wearing an onion on my belt, it was the fashion at the time...... ;)

The Zeppelin bombing weren't really effective. Compared to the London Blitz and Allied bombing of Germany they were almost quaint.

JDRCRASH
10-30-2008, 12:59 AM
Nah, i'd rather go on a helicopter ride.



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