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mr.x
Nov 10, 2008, 4:07 AM
Leadership hopefuls set eyes on Vancouver
Liberals will vote on its new leader during an upcoming convention

Juliet O'Neill, Canwest News Service
Published: Sunday, November 09, 2008

OTTAWA - Now that the Liberal party has set the ground rules, several potential Liberal leadership candidates plan to announce over the next week their decisions on whether to enter the race to replace Stephane Dion.

Deputy Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff plans to make his bid official after Remembrance Day, joining already declared candidates Bob Rae, a Toronto MP and former premier of Ontario and Dominic LeBlanc, a New Brunswick MP and son of former governor-general Romeo LeBlanc.

Toronto MPs Gerard Kennedy and Martha Hall Findlay, who both ran last time in 2006, and Ottawa MP David McGuinty, brother of the Ontario premier, also are poised to announce this week whether they will run.

The party announced more details of its leadership plan Sunday, setting March 6-March 10 as "super delegate" weekend. That's when grassroots Liberal members elect more than 6,000 delegates to vote for a new leader at an April 29-May 3rd convention in Vancouver, with a leader to be selected on Saturday, May 2nd.

Ex-officio delegates, from MPs and senators, to riding association presidents and 2008 election candidates, also will be eligible to vote. Together with observers and media, the Liberals expect about 10,000 people to attend, a number that Vancouver Mayor Sam Sullivan says will inject between $10 and $15 million into his city's economy.

Everyone who wants to vote for delegates must be a signed member of the Liberal party by 5 p.m. Friday, Feb. 6th. There are 22 delegates allowed from each of 308 ridings, 20 elected and two automatic - the riding president and the candidate from the 2008 election.

Party president Doug Ferguson also told a news conference after a weekend meeting of the 22-member national executive about a plan to build fundraising into the leadership campaign process for the cash-starved party.

While the leadership candidate entry fee is $90,000, a candidate can get a rebate of $25,000 for each 1,000 individuals he or she signs up to the Liberal Victory Fund. The fund requires a minimum $10 monthly contribution, half to the party and half to a riding association.

The Liberals also will take 10 per cent of all money a candidates raises for his or her campaign. They set a ceiling on campaign spending of $1.5 million. That's much less than the $3.4-million ceiling in the 2006 race, though the most anybody spent was $2.5 million.

"The mood was very good," Ferguson said. He said the executive members "totally focused on what's best for the party, not on what's best for any individual leadership candidate." "There was never any discussion about trying to keep people out," he added. "That did not enter into it, whatsoever."

The Quebec wing of the party proposed to exclude from the race candidates who had not repaid their debt from the 2006 race. That would have barred Hall Findlay and Kennedy.


© Canwest News Service





Perhaps at the new convention centre?

djh
Nov 10, 2008, 4:15 AM
Leadership hopefuls set eyes on Vancouver
Liberals will vote on its new leader during an upcoming convention

Juliet O'Neill, Canwest News Service
Published: Sunday, November 09, 2008



Ex-officio delegates, from MPs and senators, to riding association presidents and 2008 election candidates, also will be eligible to vote. Together with observers and media, the Liberals expect about 10,000 people to attend, a number that Vancouver Mayor Sam Sullivan says will inject between $10 and $15 million into his city's economy.



I have question for you. Why is this paragraph important, or even relevant? I notice that the Vancouver Sun regularly makes a comment about any event happening in the city with a reference to how much money it will make for the city. I then see this paragraph highlighted in green, as if to say "this is important".

I'm not nitpicking here. I want to understand why people see the amount of money any gathering of people generates as being important. Personally, iy stinks of very crass commercialism and a reflection of a terribly shallow Vancouver economy, but I would love to hear what others think.

fever
Nov 10, 2008, 5:03 AM
Part of the problem is media concentration and lack of competition, particularly in the newspaper business.

In Metro Vancouver, CanWest Global owns the following, according to this crtc pdf (http://www.crtc.gc.ca/ownership/cht14.pdf) and this website (http://www.yourmedia.ca/library/whose.shtml):
Global BC
Vancouver Sun
Vancouver Province
Vancouver Metro
Burnaby Now
New Westminister Record
(Surrey) The Now Community
Langley Advance
(Abbotsford Times)
Chilliwack Times
Maple Ridge Times
Coquitlam Now
Richmond News
Delta Optimist
Vancouver Courier
North Shore News

The rest are owned by a couple other companies, cbc is cbc, and ctv is bell.

ravman
Nov 10, 2008, 9:33 AM
its a interesting timing, which is right during the prov election... that being said... i think Vcec is the only place that is capable of hosting...

edit... VCEC is booked during then so it may be in that boondoggle...

flight_from_kamakura
Nov 10, 2008, 2:34 PM
it's definitely at the convention centre.

i don't know, i was at the last liberal convention in montreal, and it was a great time. great parties, somewhat fun people, etc.

the amount money generated by the city is important for obvious reasons, but more interesting is the point about the convention occurring a week before the provincial election. myself, i expect the bc liberals to win that one pretty handily (darn!) but still, it'll be interesting to see if gordobot gets a boost from iggy's coronation.

touraccuracy
Nov 10, 2008, 7:52 PM
the provincial and federal liberals aren't one in the same....

and the reason the paragraph is highlighted about how much money the convention will bring in is to make it more relevent in the vancouver section, seeing how it's a national event.

red-paladin
Nov 11, 2008, 4:41 AM
BC Liberals and Feddie Liberals weren't even on speaking terms in the 1990s

djh
Nov 11, 2008, 7:15 AM
the provincial and federal liberals aren't one in the same....

and the reason the paragraph is highlighted about how much money the convention will bring in is to make it more relevent in the vancouver section, seeing how it's a national event.

Point taken.

What irritates me about this is that the journalists who point out how much money the city will generate due to some event are almost sensationalising the story, and also minimising the important part - i.e., the event that is actually occurring which just *happens* to generate tax dollars or whatever for the city.

Case in point: I remember several years ago a group called the Shriners came to Vancouver from all over North America. I'm a Brit and had never heard of the Shriners - nevertheless, all the press stories I saw described how many of these people were coming to the city, how many hotel rooms they would fill, how many meals they would eat, how many tour buses they would occupy, etc., all in all, how much money they would spend and leave behind in Vancouver. After reading all of these stories, I still knew nothing about what a Shriner was - it wasn't until I went online and actually researched what these people were and what charitable good they do did I learn about their organisation. The press just talked about $$$ for Vancouver. Very shallow. And I notice pretty much the same thing with every major event that has come to town ever since, including now, the planned Liberal Convention. It's not Journalism.

MistyMountainHop
Nov 12, 2008, 6:16 AM
myself, i expect the bc liberals to win that one pretty handily (darn!) but still, it'll be interesting to see if gordobot gets a boost from iggy's coronation.

I sure hope Ignatieff doesn't win. I don't want to have our two largest parties led by people who would've sent our troops into Iraq. :hell:



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