[waterloowarrior]

Ashcroft is developing the NE and NW corners of Richmond and Patricia....

http://childfree.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/dsc00229.jpg
http://childfree.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/dsc00230.jpg
http://childfree.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/dscn0213.jpg
http://childfree.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/dscn02122.jpg


At the NE corner is 101 Richmond, a proposed condominium development
http://101richmond.ca/
http://101richmond.ca/registraion_files/101_richmond_logo.jpg

At the NW corner is 119 Richmond, a proposed retirement residence (the building with the circular top)
http://lovewestboro.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/fotenn-meeting-oct08.jpg

http://childfree.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/dscn0214.jpg
this has been appealed to the OMB (http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDetail.aspx?n=PL081616)

pics are from http://childfree.wordpress.com/
http://childfree.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/ashcroft-update-seniors-residence/#more-798



Well, here are a couple shots of 101 Richmond...

Used to be the CT store and other open lots...not it's a couple of holes in the ground...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/Drivesthebeast/DSCF1265.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/Drivesthebeast/DSCF1266.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/Drivesthebeast/DSCF1267.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/Drivesthebeast/DSCF1268.jpg

This was a very busy site when they took the CT store down, which only took a few days actually...I wish I had pics of the demo...I am guessing that this will become a busy site again once they are ready to tie-in the utilities and put a crane in place.

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

This will go a long way to helping bridge the gap between West Wellington Village and Westboro.

[Mille Sabords]

^^ Exactly. Both buildings have good urban bones to them, they are genuine "avenue" buildings.

[Davis137]

This is certainly going to improve the Urbanity of the neighbourhood...

[harls]

This guy (http://garbagehill.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/best-laid-plans-are-ignored-in-ottawa/) is not a fan.

[waterloowarrior]

I like it as well... it's amazing how much time is wasted arguing with the community over buildings that appear to be very appropriate for avenue development. the blog harls links to is referring to the old zoning by-law, which only permits a FSI of 1.0 on the site... that is ridiculous for something on one of Ottawa's mainstreets. I believe the 300 Richmond building the blog refers to had a similar issue.

[Mille Sabords]

This guy (http://garbagehill.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/best-laid-plans-are-ignored-in-ottawa/) is not a fan.

He uses some pretty strong language too. Why is it that there are people who spend so much of themselves being against things? I agree with Waterloowarrior, these two buildings are totally appropriate for their location. With an FSI of 1, someone could cover the entire lot with a single-storey building... or have a 6-storey "mini-tower in a park" or rather "in a parking lot"... which would be exactly the wrong thing on a street like this. Fortunately the FSI dinosaur has been removed from Mainstreets zoning.

[waterloowarrior]

It will also help connect Westboro with West Wellington.... (along with projects like 1433 wellington) 6 storey mini-towers surrounded by parking -what an image!

[Kitchissippi]

I just hope it doesn't turn fugly on the outside like the Opus.

[Mille Sabords]

6 storey mini-towers surrounded by parking -what an image!

Go further west on Richmond and that's what you'll see, except much taller. Mostly 1970's vintage. Some even have retail on the ground floor, then about 20 floors of apartments above, and car access in-between the sidewalk and the retail to link two surface parking lots on either side. That's what FSI will do for you. They look like anomalies from a different age today, but it's only recently that our rules departed from that very model.

[Davis137]

I think before too long, more of Richmond/Wellington will be redeveloped, as well as the West end of Scott Street and Churchill area. It's also only a matter of time before a developer does something with the block between the Scott Street Beer store, and Parkdale...my neighbours told me that a developer wanted to demo that entire block to build high-rise condo's across from Tunney's, and everyone said yes, even the owners of the Alfa Diner. Only people who said no, or wanted too much money was the owners of the tiny dirt/gravel parking lot beside the paved Holland Cross/Beer Store lot. I think it was citipark, and they wanted like 1.5M for a peice of land that was maybe 70 feet wide, and 100 ft deep, so the developer said forget about it.

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

I think before too long, more of Richmond/Wellington will be redeveloped, as well as the West end of Scott Street and Churchill area. It's also only a matter of time before a developer does something with the block between the Scott Street Beer store, and Parkdale...my neighbours told me that a developer wanted to demo that entire block to build high-rise condo's across from Tunney's, and everyone said yes, even the owners of the Alfa Diner. Only people who said no, or wanted too much money was the owners of the tiny dirt/gravel parking lot beside the paved Holland Cross/Beer Store lot. I think it was citipark, and they wanted like 1.5M for a peice of land that was maybe 70 feet wide, and 100 ft deep, so the developer said forget about it.

Wow. Talk about greed.

[Kitchissippi]

The other parcel that is supposed to be developed in the Westboro area is the back lot of the Superstore, facing Byron. When they built that place they had to reserve that portion of the lot for housing development. Of course that may never come to be, they might just wait until the issue is forgotten, then push for a store expansion in the future.

[harls]

One thing's for sure.. that chip truck guy that parks at Patricia is going to make a killing when construction starts.

[Mille Sabords]

Here is a picture of the site from this weekend. Looks like the sales office will be opening soon.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Ottawa/Janvier2009021.jpg

[Davis137]

Beat me to this one too...lol

[waterloowarrior]

101 Richmond Site Plan Application (http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__7JJRWF)

Proposed 6-storey, 100-unit condominium apartment building with commercial units at-grade is to front on Richmond Road with a portion of the building (west side) to face on Patricia Avenue. Vehicular access is proposed from Patricia Avenue and will lead to 121 parking spaces provided on three levels underground. New landscaping is proposed throughout the site.

http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/101Richmondsiteplan.jpg
http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/101richmondelevation.jpg

Harls, can you edit the height from '?m" to '19.0 m' for the first building?

[harls]

ok, done.

[waterloowarrior]

from Ashcroft's site (http://www.ashcroft-homes.com/condos.aspx)

http://www.ashcroft-homes.com/uploads/rendering%20full%20dec.%2019.jpg

[Davis137]

Ummm, if it looks like that...that'll be awesome...

[waterloowarrior]

another render from 101richmond.ca

http://www.101richmond.ca/registraion_files/top_logo_rend.jpg

[cityguy]

Nice addition to the neighborhood.

[waterloowarrior]

119 Richmond goes to the OMB in April
http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDetail.aspx?n=PL081616

[Mille Sabords]

The website is now live and the sales office has opened. The website has pricing. A few more of the images they have online, to outline some of the amenities you will enjoy as a resident of this building:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/Ashcroft101Richmond06.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/Ashcroft101Richmond04.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/Ashcroft101Richmond08.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/Ashcroft101Richmond05.jpg http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/Ashcroft101Richmond07.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/Ashcroft101Richmond01.jpg


It looks like there's a patio for a restaurant or pub on the left of this last image. Good for them if that's the case. I'd be right into having a pub on the ground floor of where I live!

[harls]

The animal bath is very Westboro-esque.

[Davis137]

Two Thumbs up to More Pubs in the Area!

[jcollins]

119 Richmond goes to the OMB in April
http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDetail.aspx?n=PL081616

So the OMB website says that this meeting was supposed to happen on the 15th. From their website I cant tell if a decision was made. Anyone know anything?

[Dado]

:previous:

As if the OMB is going to rule against the developer.

No, they'll get to build their solid 6-storey east-west aligned block on top of a slope that overshadows the neighbourhood to the north without being forced to step it down on the north side or break it up into two buildings to let sunlight through. The OMB only respects the property rights of would-be developers, not those of existing property owners who are living there. You guys criticize the locals for taking it to the OMB, but frankly, what do you expect them to do? They're about to have what for them will be a 6-storey wall with only a 7.5 m setback planted on top of a 1-storey podium (the hillside) go up behind them. This development will basically wipe out the resale value of their homes and permanently overshadow their backyards, and, for much of the year (i.e. winter when it really matters), their houses too.

That's not to say I think the allowed FSI 1.0 is sensible either, but we've gone from only permitting a ~1-2 storey building covering most of the site to a 6-storey building covering most of the site at each floor level (FSI 4.9). Hoping to get something that might be sensible, like FSI 2.5 with a stepping down on the north side, is clearly unreasonable.

Just like down the road at 300 Richmond, what we'll end up with is a large box that more-or-less fills the entire building envelope with little in the way of building articulation or stepping back at upper levels. We're starting to see more of this - the entire building envelope is getting completely filled and the FSI just ignored (not helped of course by unreasonable FSIs in the first place). Yes, yes, I know that FSI can also yield towers-in-the-park, but until someone comes up with something else to prevent big boxes it's about the only reasonable control there is. There is no FSI in residential neighbourhoods where only setbacks and heights control things and look at what we get - monstrosities like that found on Kirchoffer Ave. where a pair of semis went in with each semi in excess of 3000 sq.ft. This is possible because it fills most of the building envelope without FSI to restrict it. That's what having no "FSI dinosaur" gets you.

[Suzie]

Is the OMB case about the condo building, the retirement home or both? The condo building is slated for the abandoned used car lot and the old Canadian Tire gas station (93 and 109 Richmond Rd). The retirement home is planned on the old Canadian Tire store site (119 Richmond Rd). The limited information on the OMB website suggests that the case is about the latter project.

I agree that shadowing is a real issue for the condo building because of the properties on Mailes Avenue, although at the end of the day I’m not sure if an increase in the setback would make much difference. BTW – the excitement about this condo building having a pub is misplaced. What you see in the southwest corner is a coffee shop (according to what Ashcroft said, the building won’t have the ventilation system needed to accommodate a restaurant).

Behind the 119 Richmond Rd site, you have the Canadian Bank Note Company parking lot plus a small commercial building. There should be no issue there (at least for now – the Bank Note site may eventually be redeveloped). I acknowledge though that, during the winter, the retirement home could result in some shadowing on the east side of Patricia and along the western part of Mailes.

[waterloowarrior]

The OMB case in question (http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDetail.aspx?n=PL081616) is about 119 Richmond (retirement home), which is on the NW corner of Patricia/Richmond (101 Richmond is on the NE corner). On the OMB site there is a link to the decision but it doesn't work yet.

There are also appeals for the Richmond Rd/Westboro CDP, which may include the sites (hearing is in May)
http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDetail.aspx?n=PL090029

[waterloowarrior]

As of April 7th, the building was 35% sold out
http://ottawarealestatesmarts.blogspot.com/

[waterloowarrior]

the 119 Richmond OMB decision is up
http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/e-decisions/pl081616-Apr-24-2009.pdf

[bilal074]

Billy, If anyone is interested to buy one of the condos please contact me and i will refer you and help u save 5000$. We each get 5000$ back!

my email is “hamdan at rogers dot com”

...this is not a scam. call the sales center and ask them yourself.

[bilal074]

if anyone is interested to buy one of the condos contact me and i will refer you. by referring you as a buyer i will get 5k back and so will you. so we each get 5000$ back!

my email is “hamdan at rogers dot com” this is not a scam. call the sales center and ask them yourself.

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

You know, we'd be more inclined to beleive you if you didn't post two successive posts about how something "is not a scam".

Introduce yourself, tell us what brought you here, etc. Because right now, my scam/bullshit detectors are flaring up...

[waterloowarrior]

Old Canadian Tire Site Filled In
http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/archive/2009/08/20/old-canadian-tire-site-filled-in.aspx
By KENNETH_GRAY 08-20-2009 COMMENTS(1) THE BULLDOG


Enormous earth-moving trucks were working Thursday to fill in the large foundation hole for a multi-dwelling residence planned for the old Canadian Tire site at Patricia Avenue and Richmond Road in Westboro.

There's no word on why the foundation work is being levelled.

[alexsks]

There's no word on why the foundation work is being levelled.

Bought a unit there this weekend. The reason for the foundation work being leveled at 119 Richmond is to create a space for the sales office. Some time around 1st September the road will be closed down and the building will be moved across to the other side of Patricia avenue by truck.

Groundbreaking at 101 will follow after that!

[Mille Sabords]

Bought a unit there this weekend. The reason for the foundation work being leveled at 119 Richmond is to create a space for the sales office. Some time around 1st September the road will be closed down and the building will be moved across to the other side of Patricia avenue by truck.

Groundbreaking at 101 will follow after that!

Congratulations! It's a nice, smart-looking building. It has a lot of retail space, and that will really do a lot to continue gluing Westboro and Wellington West together.

[Dado]

Bought a unit there this weekend. The reason for the foundation work being leveled at 119 Richmond is to create a space for the sales office. Some time around 1st September the road will be closed down and the building will be moved across to the other side of Patricia avenue by truck.

Weird... they could have saved themselves lots of trouble and just left part of the old parking lot intact for the sales office - or even used the front part of the old building itself until such time as a ground floor unit was ready at 109 Richmond.

[bilal074]

You know, we'd be more inclined to beleive you if you didn't post two successive posts about how something "is not a scam".

Introduce yourself, tell us what brought you here, etc. Because right now, my scam/bullshit detectors are flaring up...

Wow you're fully equipped!! Both a scam and a bullshit detector at once! what about a GPS? maybe an 8 speaker Bose system! then you will be set!

Anyways, I actually found someone and was able to save her 5000$ on her unit just by referring her.

If you were interested all you had to do was use your brains and take some measures to not get scammed. I offered a referral! Never asked anyone to send me 5K to my account in Africa!

[waterloowarrior]

Westboro Seniors Residence Delayed (http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/archive/2009/08/31/westboro-seniors-residence-delayed.aspx)



By Kenneth_Gray (http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/members/Kenneth_5F00_Gray/default.aspx) 08-31-2009 COMMENTS(0) (http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/archive/2009/08/31/westboro-seniors-residence-delayed.aspx#comments) The Bulldog (http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/default.aspx)
Filed under: Westboro (http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/archive/tags/Westboro/default.aspx), City of Ottawa (http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/archive/tags/City+of+Ottawa/default.aspx), Christine Leadman (http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/archive/tags/Christine+Leadman/default.aspx), Ashcroft (http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/bulldog/archive/tags/Ashcroft/default.aspx)


Kitchissippi Councillor Christine Leadman sent this note along concerning the current work at the old Canadian Tire site just west of Island Park Drive on Richmond Road.
Hi Ken,
We have just heard from Ashcroft on their development (filling in the hole) and here is what they have said.
Representatives from Ashcroft homes called about the old Canadian Tire site on Richmond. That site is being back filled so they can move the sales office, currenlty on the eastern side of Patricia where an old gas bar used to be, to the old store site. Ashcroft has decided to delay the retirement home at the Canadian Tire site and instead go ahead with the condos planned for the gas bar site. Construction on the condos will continue this year with the retirement home construction hopefully starting up next year.

Christine

[waterloowarrior]

Here's the sales office on streetview. (http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=westboro,+ottawa,+on&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=46.422473,114.169922&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Westboro,+Ottawa,+Ontario&ll=45.39796,-75.74863&spn=0,359.981976&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=45.39652,-75.743776&panoid=znDmWUnl1-cYBy0aMsT9ZQ&cbp=12,312.26,,0,1.13).. lol at the blurred faces