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ThreeHundred
01-27-2009, 06:06 PM
Simple. What do your buses look like?
Los Angeles Local
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2943952376_5945f5d549_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2943948628_888ae98e6a_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2943948528_f6b4b91019_o.jpg
^ This one has got that gangsta lean. :twoguns:
Metro Library and Archive
Los Angeles Rapid
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2943952246_e23dbcba4a_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2943948396_467999802d_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3010/2943949638_73e4eb1710_o.jpg
Metro Library and Archive
Los Angeles Express
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/2943090581_12a86f2254_o.jpg
Metro Library and Archive
Orange Line
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2943951388_e25f25c6f4_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/2943957854_edc7cae4f6_o.jpg
Metro Library and Archive
Torrance Transit
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/2943106251_8956f2318e_o.jpg
Metro Library and Archive
Pasadena Arts
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2943964822_4ba6e54dd3_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2943964576_59cfb83cda_o.jpg
Metro Library and Archive
Culver City Bus
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2943964056_7ce06a7d52_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3194/2943963916_244fb5d8b5_o.jpg
Metro Library and Archive
Glendale Bee Line
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2943964186_d0034233b7_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/2943963478_a5e9c9e216_o.jpg
Metro Library and Archive
FREKI
01-27-2009, 06:55 PM
Copenhagen buses:
http://i27.tinypic.com/nv3b7d.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/whyyoi.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2lm88jp.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/34xj4t4.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/ejzskz.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2mpy8f9.jpg
Inside
http://i30.tinypic.com/2s60ih5.jpg
Habour bus
http://i42.tinypic.com/16m44j.jpg
staff
01-27-2009, 07:09 PM
What is it with American buses looking like they're straight out of the 70s?
arkhitektor
01-27-2009, 07:30 PM
What is it with American buses looking like they're straight out of the 70s?
Many of them are.
staff
01-27-2009, 07:45 PM
:previous:
But the same design "language" is used for new models too it seems. See this one for example, hardly from the 70s, but the window frames, back lights etc. make it look really dated.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/2943957854_edc7cae4f6_o.jpg
arkhitektor
01-27-2009, 07:54 PM
UTA (Utah Transit Authority) busses (Salt Lake City):
Busses on local routes and ski busses use this livery:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jtylerlloyd/Untitled-87.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/2255591731_13a9d0afc4.jpg
There are still a number of older busses in the old livery around though:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2153/2123350556_ba6afbc116.jpg
The new MAX BRT line has this livery on Van Hool busses:
(This must just be a shot taken for PR because the MAX 35 (BRT) route goes nowhere near Temple Square.)
http://www.busride.com/uploaded/august%202008/utah.jpg
UTA's Express busses are more motorcoach than city bus, and they are dressed like this:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jtylerlloyd/Untitled2-2.jpg
Even though this thread is for busses, I'm going to cheat and share UTA's train livery as well:
TRAX Light rail has a terrible old livery to match how old and boxy the cars themselves look:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/jtylerlloyd/TraxCityskylinecopy1.jpg
FrontRunner commuter rail has a much fresher look that matches the new bus liveries:
http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/4/2/4/3424.1214400081.jpg
BTinSF
01-27-2009, 07:59 PM
What is it with American buses looking like they're straight out of the 70s?
70's design is "in" now.
Anyway:
The "Connected Bus" (free Wi-Fi access, touch-screen maps on the walls and connecting transit information)
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/02/21/ba_futurebus21_038_mac.jpg
Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/21/BA0LV60MP.DTL
Regular old Muni
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/3134093707_20e7e7ce21.jpg?v=0http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/3134916212_8b5d6cecd3.jpg?v=0
Source: http://flickr.com/photos/aquanorak/3134916212/in/photostream/
BTinSF
01-27-2009, 08:04 PM
:previous:
the window frames, back lights etc. make it look really dated.
Some of it may be various safety regulations. The window frames, for example, are mostly rubber gaskets that can be peeled away for emergency exit. The lights I suspect are a maintenance thing--uniform, cheap, easily replaced. US city busses live hard lives. Everything about them needs to be easily and cheaply maintained.
Also, dated is in the eye of the beholder. Frankly, they don't look dated to me in the sense that they don't look like the actual busses we had in the 70s (more glass, boxier, easier access now--there is actually more emphasis on practicality now and less on appearance).
Cirrus
01-27-2009, 08:25 PM
In the Washington, DC area:
Most DC Metrobuses look more or less like this. There are a lot of minor variations, but the white background with two red stripes is the basic livery. It is inspired by DC's flag.
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/metrobus07-9s.jpg
Here's another version that illustrates how some of the different trunk routes have slightly different
paint schemes. Compare the top of this bus with the top of the first one.
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/pikeride03.jpg
Metrobus also has a lot of buses wrapped in this "go green" livery, to advertise transit's environmental friendliness.
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/metrobus03-gogreen.jpg
The most recent order of buses has a new livery, which looks like this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2691920781_c5524c8106.jpg
(Photo by Richard Layman (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rllayman/2691920781/))
MetroExtra, Metrobuses version of limited stop service (similar to the Metro Rapid in LA) looks like this:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/439736738_7a940e8da1.jpg
(Photo by Rob Goodspeed.)
The DC Circulator runs on some key routes in central Washington. When DC's streetcars start running, they will have a similar paint scheme.
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/circulator09-foggybottom.jpg
Arlington County's ART service:
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/art02-35ft.jpg
Fairfax County Connector, sometimes called the ketchup and mustard bus:
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/fairfax_connector01.jpg
Montgomery County Ride-On. There's also a green version:
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/rideon-blue.jpg
There are bunch of smaller agencies, but those are the main ones.
Cirrus
01-27-2009, 08:28 PM
Boulder puts a unique livery on all its trunk routes. Here are a few of them:
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/skip01.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/jump2.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/hop1.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/bolt2.jpg
In addition the SKIP, JUMP, HOP and BOLT (pictured), there are also routes called the LEAP, BOUND, DASH and STAMPEDE.
VivaLFuego
01-27-2009, 08:57 PM
At one time, Chicago's livery consisted of Mercury Green, Croydon Cream, and Swamp Holley Orange.
I guess it was too interesting, since now we're Red, White, & Blue.
Cirrus
01-27-2009, 09:00 PM
Here is the Bolt, my favorite of the many intercity bus operators along the American East Coast. $35 round trip between DC and NY.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/BoltBus_Prevost_0807_in_NYC.jpg/800px-BoltBus_Prevost_0807_in_NYC.jpg
(Photo from wiki)
Megabus is also very popular, though I like Bolt better.
http://www.thenewyorkcitytraveler.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/megabus.jpg
(Photo by The New York City Traveler.)
The famous Chinatown buses tend to just be plain white.
Old livery:
http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/images/e/e2/Thunder_Bay_Transit_135-a.JPG (http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Thunder_Bay_Transit_135-a.JPG)
New livery:
http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/images/a/af/Thunder_Bay_Transit_152-a.jpg (http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Thunder_Bay_Transit_152-a.jpg)
I prefer the old one. The new one is pretty messed up. It's supposed to be our logo:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/Thunder_bay_logo.png
(R) Corporation of the City of Thunder Bay
You can kinda see what they wanted to achieve with the new livery but you can also see that they failed. Give me 20 minutes in Illustrator and I could make it better. :) But they didn't do that, so they missed out.
In Canada, there was a real hate-on for new looking buses. The GMC NewLook (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_New_Look_bus) was manufactured in Canada for several years because the Classic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_(transit_bus)) was too "crazy futuristic". Flush windows are available on North American built transit buses but they cost extra because the mechanics involved in making them pop off in emergencies is different. All bus windows except for those that don't have seats beside them must come cleanly off in the event of an emergency so that people can get out of the bus as quickly as possible. The chunky rear lights are also a cheaper option, Thunder Bay actually pays for smaller ones:
http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/images/0/09/Thunder_Bay_Transit_160-a.jpg (http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Thunder_Bay_Transit_160-a.jpg)
A little extra and harder to replace but they look better.
And we do have some new looking buses that are just starting to come out:
http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/images/1/17/Toronto_Transit_Commission_1555-a.jpg (http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Toronto_Transit_Commission_1555-a.jpg)
A TTC Orion VII NG, Orion is owned by Daimler I think. It has flush windows and a streamlined front. This is the standard low floor bus from the company. NewFlyer has redesigned it's front as well but I think that's still an optional feature. It's cheaper to get the older design and we don't care too much if our buses look like they're from Europe 2015 or not.
Thunder Bay's buses are NovaBus LFSs. NovaBus is owned by Volvo and the design is based on European buses. It was the most futuristic bus on the continent when it came out. :P
arkhitektor
01-27-2009, 09:36 PM
So far, I like LA's livery the most.
Its simple, but not boring and I like that Local, Rapid and Express routes all have their own color. Also, at least from the pics posted above, there are no advertisements on any of them, which helps keep a streamlined look.
It also seems like it can be applied uniformly to both old and new busses. From what we've seen so far, it looks like a lot of agencies get a new liverly every time they get a new order of vehicles. This tends to create a rather haphazard look across the fleet. The LA liverly on the other hand, looks just as good on older vehicles as it does on new ones:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2943952246_e23dbcba4a_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2943948396_467999802d_o.jpg
Cirrus
01-27-2009, 09:38 PM
Oh! How could I forget! I've actually gotten to design a bus livery in real life.
This is the existing City of Fairfax CUE bus:
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/cuebus01.jpg
CUE is a small system with just a couple of routes, so I didn't bother to list it earlier (there are dozens of bus operators in the DC area). I was part of a 4-person team that designed the new paint scheme for CUE's next order. I didn't get everything I wanted (the maintenance guy want lots of white so they wouldn't have to work as hard to maintain the paint, for example, while I wanted no white), but what we came up with turned out OK.
Here it is:
http://beyonddc.com/images/photos/transit/bus/CUEAug01Revision.png
No actual buses yet, but when they're delivered next year, this is what they'll look like.
dimondpark
01-27-2009, 09:41 PM
AC Transit in Oakland and the East Bay
http://www.streetcarmike.com/actransit/actransit_vanhool2159_route97_decoto_1_jun012007_crop.jpg
http://www.hydrogenassociation.org/media/images/transportation/buses/acTransit_busInslee.jpg
Many lines into DT SF use these buses...
http://www.motorbussociety.org/conventn/05spr/ACTransit6065.jpg
They have Wi Fi
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03tSerXepZbyo/610x.jpg
ThreeHundred
01-27-2009, 11:52 PM
Here is the Suntran in Tucson, Arizona. I'm thinking that everytime they got a new order of buses, they changed their livery. None of the buses have a uniform look aside from the three colors of their logo (white, red, and yellow).
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2078/2374245503_7f2150d185_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2282/2374245511_d0617249df_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2188/2222648238_568a276e27.jpg?v=0
KevinFromTexas
01-28-2009, 12:42 AM
Capital Metro Express Bus
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/3153073252_2c71e99c4d.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3153073252/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/3153068724_eee3009613.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3153068724/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2985930022_971fdc9a15.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2985930022/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/3153072660_8956a835dd.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3153072660/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/2955638729_49095dcba1.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2955638729/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3067/3060547388_c6597ddf8a.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3060547388/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/3152235239_9939b290a3.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3152235239/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/2985930004_dfa9d827d5.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2985930004/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/3153071344_066a48e20e.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3153071344/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/3153072012_3df064a9e8.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3153072012/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/3152234613_6493e387ea.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3152234613/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2985929998_e1f4fd45da.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2985929998/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3282/2957404452_342d608f87.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2957404452/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2991044344_b1b42c1c61.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2991044344/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/2914783547_b49c88348a.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2914783547/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/3153067586_093dfa1afa.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3153067586/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2955638725_3178999587.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2955638725/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2955638723_967e14a6f5.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2955638723/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2914796181_95da95571d.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2914796181/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3130/2914795897_8213c80191.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2914795897/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2915640516_a16d96f2e4.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2915640516/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3210/2915636460_85613fa39c.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2915636460/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
Capital Metro's Downtown Dillo. These are free to ride.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2955638709_6551381f95.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2955638709/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
For the handicapped.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3131/3153069288_69a9bc17a0.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/3153069288/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
Capital Metro's University of Texas buses. These are actually operated by a different company than the city line.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2915641470_a90f8519a5_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2915641470/sizes/o/in/set-72157612128965163/
Texas State University shuttle. These run from Austin to San Marcos to carry students back and forth.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/2914832707_8f5137f4b0.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/2914832707/sizes/m/in/set-72157612128965163/
Cool set of photos here by Metrobus on Flickr of many cities.
http://flickr.com/photos/27884592@N07/sets/72157612128965163/
Austin55
01-28-2009, 01:38 AM
LOL@ the driver in the 2nd to last picture!! :haha:
My city is too cheap for buses, so we use these (well there still buses)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/HCS_bus49.JPG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HCS_bus49.JPG
Its Sad :(
KevinFromTexas
01-28-2009, 02:10 AM
San Antonio's VIA Transit.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/2756786129_96c279c27b_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/29423660@N07/2756786129/sizes/o/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2751684680_1b4d2463b3.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/29423660@N07/2751684680/sizes/m/in/set-72157606692287313/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/2756786355_b5873876d3_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/29423660@N07/2756786355/sizes/o/in/set-72157606692287313/
San Antonio's downtown trolley.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3254/2977660833_af60636111_o.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/29423660@N07/2977660833/sizes/o/
Cirrus
01-28-2009, 02:56 AM
I hate fake trolleys. Any city that uses them is immediately lame, IMO.
That includes Alexandria.
Minato Ku
01-28-2009, 03:23 AM
There is sevaral compagnies that operate in Paris urban area, anyway a single deserve Paris and the inner suburbs.
The green livery of RATP
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/DSC01816.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/DSC06659.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/DSC01953.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/RATP_38_Porte_d%27Orl%C3%A9ans.JPG/800px-RATP_38_Porte_d%27Orl%C3%A9ans.JPG
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RATP_38_Porte_d%27Orl%C3%A9ans.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/GX_317_GPL_de_la_ligne_139_de_la_RATP.jpg/800px-GX_317_GPL_de_la_ligne_139_de_la_RATP.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GX_317_GPL_de_la_ligne_139_de_la_RATP.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Bus183_ManLionscity_rouget.JPG/800px-Bus183_ManLionscity_rouget.JPG
_ManLionscity_rouget.JPG"]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bus183_ManLionscity_rouget.JPG (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bus183[SIZE="1)[/SIZE]
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/DSC05644.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Tvm_creteiluniversite2_versStmaur.jpg/800px-Tvm_creteiluniversite2_versStmaur.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tvm_creteiluniversite2_versStmaur.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/DSC01431.jpg
KevinFromTexas
01-28-2009, 03:24 AM
^The ones in Austin are NOT tourist traps though. They actually are handy around downtown, whereas the ones in San Antonio drag you around to all the attractions. And they're never passed off as being "trolleys" or streetcarish.
Our buses actually come from a company in Ireland, and the new commuter rail cars for our commuter rail system are from Switerzland.
electricron
01-28-2009, 05:30 AM
Dart's buses livery in Dallas:
DART NABI Bus
http://www.dart.org/images/newsroom/preview/NABIBus1.jpg
http://www.dart.org/images/newsroom/preview/NABIBus2.jpg
DART NovaBus
http://www.dart.org/images/guide-bus.jpg
Fleet composition
NovaBUS (1998, 1999, 2000, 2002) Diesel: 403
NovaBUS (1998, 1999, 2002) LNG: 183
NABI (2004) Diesel: 80
Champion <30' (2000, 2001) 76
mersar
01-28-2009, 05:44 AM
Heres a selection of Calgary's liveries:
Classic two-tone blue livery (only 1 bus left with this one):
http://barp.ca/bus/alberta/ct/gm/ct1980t6h5307n/1046.jpg
1990's three-stripe:
http://www.compscience.info/public/images/2008/ct7001-sept16-1.jpg
Most of the D40LF fleet, this single D40, all the GM Classics and all but the one fish bowls are in this one
http://www.compscience.info/public/images/ctrain-aug21-1.jpg
And most of the U2 and SD160 LRT fleet (except for SD160's 2233-2272)
New red and silver:
http://www.compscience.info/public/images/2008/ct6010-mar13-1.jpg
All D60LFR's, and D40LFR's (except for new units which are in service in plain white currently) as well as the last order of D40LF's
http://www.compscience.info/public/images/2008/ct1604-sept16-1.jpg
EZ Rider's
http://www.compscience.info/public/images/ctrain2251-sept14-1.jpg
And SD160 LRV's
Of course, most recent additions to the fleet recently has done time like:
http://www.compscience.info/public/images/2008/ct6xxx-mar13-1.jpg
http://www.compscience.info/public/images/2008/ct8048-may1-1.jpg
Usually for a few weeks or months until they can get them through the shop to get the colors done.
pj3000
01-28-2009, 06:30 AM
Erie Metropolitan transit Authority (EMTA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/EMTA_Gillig_0718.jpg/800px-EMTA_Gillig_0718.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/EMTA_New_Flyer_9972.jpg/800px-EMTA_New_Flyer_9972.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/EMTA_Orion_II_0082.jpg/800px-EMTA_Orion_II_0082.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/EMTA_Bayliner_3.jpg/800px-EMTA_Bayliner_3.jpg
I hate these things. Cheesy. Free though from the city's bayfront to downtown.
BTinSF
01-28-2009, 07:10 AM
For you guys who don't know your town's historic livery (all courtesy http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/index.html ):
Philadelphia Suburban
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1007/images/1007-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1007/images/1007-240p-01.jpg
Philadelphia, PA (Postwar)
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1055/images/1055-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1055/images/1055-240p-01.jpg
Los Angeles Railways
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1052/images/1052-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1052/images/1052-240p-01.jpg
Los Angeles Transit Lines
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1080/images/1080-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1080/images/1080-240p-01.jpg
Pacific Electric (LA)
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1061/images/1061-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1061/images/1061-240p-01.jpg
Brooklyn, NY
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1053/images/1053-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1053/images/1053-240p-01.jpg
Kansas City, KS
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1056/images/1056-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1056/images/1056-240p-01.jpg
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1057/images/1057-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1057/images/1057-240p-01.jpg
Chicago, IL
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1058/images/1058-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1058/images/1058-240p-01.jpg
Boston Elevated Railway
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1059/images/1059-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1059/images/1059-240p-01.jpg
Louisville, KY
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1062/images/1062-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1062/images/1062-240p-01.jpg
Baltimore, MD
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1063/images/1063-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1063/images/1063-240p-01.jpg
Newark, NJ
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1070/images/1070-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1070/images/1070-240p-01.jpg
Twin City Rapid (Minneapolis-St. Paul)
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1071/images/1071-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1071/images/1071-240p-01.jpg
Mexico City, Mexico
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1072/images/1072-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1072/images/1072-240p-01.jpg
El Paso-Juarez
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1073/images/1073-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1073/images/1073-240p-01.jpg
Toronto
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1074/images/1074-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1074/images/1074-240p-01.jpg
Cleveland, OH
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1075/images/1075-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1075/images/1075-240p-03.jpg
Washington, DC
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1076/images/1076-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1076/images/1076-240p-01.jpg
Birmingham, AL
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1077/images/1077-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1077/images/1077-240p-01.jpg
San Diego, CA
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1078/images/1078-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1078/images/1078-240p-01.jpg
Detroit, MI
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1079/images/1079-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1079/images/1079-240p-01.jpg
San Francisco, CA
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1050/images/1050-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1050/images/1050-240p-01.jpg
These are all trolleys in service with historic trolley fleet of San Francisco's F line.
BTinSF
01-28-2009, 07:17 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/EMTA_Bayliner_3.jpg/800px-EMTA_Bayliner_3.jpg
That's obscene.
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/cable/cal/images/cal-01.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/cable/powell/images/powell-01.jpg
Source: http://www.streetcar.org
pj3000
01-28-2009, 07:46 AM
^ Yeah, I know. It's too bad that these things are all over the country.
Cirrus
01-28-2009, 02:14 PM
The problem with the fake trolleys, even the ones with useful routes, is that they give off the impression that transit isn't something to be taken seriously as a contemporary form of transportation. They say "this is a cutesy thing to do for fun, but for goodness sake don't use it if you really need to get somewhere".
They play into the false perceptions spread by the likes of O'Toole and Cox. They are counterproductive.
VivaLFuego
01-28-2009, 03:27 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/EMTA_Bayliner_3.jpg/800px-EMTA_Bayliner_3.jpg
What a trainwreck.
I'm with Cirrus. Ye Olde Quainte Heritage Trolleye gives the idea that it's an amusement park ride, simulating for the kiddies how grampa got around before he made it in life and left the wretched slums of the city.
pj3000
01-28-2009, 04:48 PM
The problem with the fake trolleys, even the ones with useful routes, is that they give off the impression that transit isn't something to be taken seriously as a contemporary form of transportation. They say "this is a cutesy thing to do for fun, but for goodness sake don't use it if you really need to get somewhere".
They play into the false perceptions spread by the likes of O'Toole and Cox. They are counterproductive.
What a trainwreck.
I'm with Cirrus. Ye Olde Quainte Heritage Trolleye gives the idea that it's an amusement park ride, simulating for the kiddies how grampa got around before he made it in life and left the wretched slums of the city.
I agree 100%. I almost didn't even want to post the photo, but I figured itwould spur good discussion. I've tried to explain as much regarding the counterproductve nature of the ridiculous "trolleys" to friends and they act like I'm taking it too seriously and that I need to lighten up. I dislike them for the reasons you both mentioned, plus I think they look like cheap crap.
nick_taylor
01-28-2009, 07:25 PM
Buses in London tend to come in one main colour: red. However as there are so many bus operators in London, they add a slight variant to the bottom of the vehicle chassis
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/186/438542114_f053ec61c0_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1034/1408933650_f4ba8ba1e4_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3438/3233620161_f8335d102e_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3526/3234446830_1a07eb7b13_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3443/3233615631_40e7f4f51d_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3474/3233608153_9689635b47_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3426/3234467280_04673f109e_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3514/3233607163_db02f0d288_o.jpg
theWatusi
01-28-2009, 08:29 PM
Bus
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2778/dsc02130ml3.jpg
Trolleys
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/467350682_7db7888046.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2227/2444634110_5d03d7910c.jpg?v=0
High Speedline Trolleys
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2038/1808525573_8693afb00d.jpg?v=0
Broad Street Line Cars
http://www.mocpages.com/user_images/11074/1206806872_SPLASH.jpg
Market Frankford Line Cars
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper882/stills/4191b99a6d36b-17-1.jpg
Regional Rail Cars
Silverliners
http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/4/1/8/6418.1071816900.jpg
"Bombers"
http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/5/6/1/8561.1227051112.jpg
Cirrus
01-28-2009, 09:05 PM
If folks want to show off their trains, let's create a separate thread. This is for BUSES.
Justin10000
01-28-2009, 10:02 PM
What a trainwreck.
I'm with Cirrus. Ye Olde Quainte Heritage Trolleye gives the idea that it's an amusement park ride, simulating for the kiddies how grampa got around before he made it in life and left the wretched slums of the city.
It's overkill. Why the faux wood paneling? What a disgrace.
train_bike
01-29-2009, 06:50 PM
Kansas City, KS
http://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1056/images/1056-illo-580p.jpghttp://www.streetcar.org/mim/streetcars/fleet/pcc/1056/images/1056-240p-01.jpg
...That's Kansas City, MO
;)
Here's our two bus types:
our fancy "MAX" BRT line (not many dedicated lanes... so not very "rapid"):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/141317545_6ee96ac853.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/2554177061_b1186e231e.jpg
and here's our standard buses:
standard paint job on a shorter one:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2955606291_42d542590d.jpg
usually they're covered in advertising:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/2506418588_d98447b7b8_o.jpg
and hybrid vehicles for dial-a-ride services:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/114/298954895_bc3156349d.jpg?v=0
seaskyfan
01-29-2009, 06:54 PM
Man I hate that stupid "bus wrap" advertising.
train_bike
01-29-2009, 06:58 PM
It's worst when that bus-wrap advertising is for a car dealership. :yuck:
Strange Meat
01-29-2009, 07:35 PM
http://unknownspiritsco.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/9100.jpg
RTD bus, Denver (and the route I'm always on, to boot.)
http://lib.colostate.edu/publicwiki/images/3/37/16th_street_mall_shuttle.jpg
Tourists on the mall ride.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/40706049_ec460e4869.jpg?v=0
hammersklavier
01-29-2009, 07:46 PM
You forgot trolleybuses, Wats. We actually have some now!
All SEPTA buses come in the same livery. You seen one, you seen them all.
Cirrus
01-29-2009, 08:10 PM
Oh now I actually like ad wraps.
Money for the agency + more color = everybody wins.
I don't really get the anti-ad thing so many people have going on. IMO every blank wall in the city should have a billboard.
seaskyfan
01-29-2009, 08:38 PM
Oh now I actually like ad wraps.
Money for the agency + more color = everybody wins.
I don't really get the anti-ad thing so many people have going on. IMO every blank wall in the city should have a billboard.
I generally support transit advertising but I think blocking the windows is completely outrageous.
Billboards are visual pollution, in my opinion.
Strange Meat
01-29-2009, 09:40 PM
Oh now I actually like ad wraps.
Money for the agency + more color = everybody wins.
I don't really get the anti-ad thing so many people have going on. IMO every blank wall in the city should have a billboard.
I'd rather it be art, say, pay Banksy to do a bunch of work. Advertisements are teh suck.
My city used to have the Robin's Donuts Bus and the Taco Time Bus. They were wrapped for a couple years. They aren't anymore. :(
Old livery for Port Arthur Transit buses:
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/alltime/pics/portarthur-116gmnl2-luke.jpg (http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/alltime/thunder-bay-on.html)
Trolleys, used from 1948 to 1972
http://www.trolleybuses.net/pta/jpg/can_m_pta_brill_210_newpaint_rpurdy.jpg (http://www.trolleybuses.net/pta/htm/can_h_pta_brill_210_newpaint_rpurdy.htm)
The white and green with yellow western text paint job that they used after Thunder Bay was formed in 1970. They had this for only two years. The diesel buses used this into the mid 1980s, when they switched to the supercool dashy stripe. You can see one of the fishbowls on the left.
http://www.trolleybuses.net/pta/jpg/can_m_pta_restored_03_jirwin.jpg (http://www.trolleybuses.net/pta/htm/can_h_pta_restored_03_jirwin.htm)
Several of the trolleys have been preserved and are sitting at the bus barns, no one really knows what to do with them. I think they should put them on a tourist line on the waterfront once the development there is finished. They're not wheelchair accessible but they're part of our history and nice to look at. :)
http://www.trolleybuses.net/pta/jpg/can_m_ftw_brill_43_simpsonmiles_19680922_ss.jpg (http://www.trolleybuses.net/pta/htm/can_h_ftw_brill_43_simpsonmiles_19680922_ss.htm)
A Fort William Transit brill bus heading up my street.
http://www.trolleybuses.net/pta/jpg/can_m_pta_brill_210_ftwilliamnorthernloop_19690921_jt.jpg (http://www.trolleybuses.net/pta/htm/can_h_pta_brill_210_ftwilliamnorthernloop_19690921_jt.htm)
A Port Arthur Transit bus at the interchange area in Intercity. Whenever the two cities got into a fight, they'd stop interlining buses between each other so you would have to get off of one system and onto the other here. :rolleyes: For much of their history, each city had a route that went to the other city without having to transfer. The route, Mainline, still exists today, and is based on streetcar lines from 1892.
More here (http://www.trolleybuses.net/pta/pta.htm).
Cirrus
01-30-2009, 12:22 AM
I generally support transit advertising but I think blocking the windows is completely outrageous. Have you ever actually ridden a wrapped bus? The wrap isn't solid. It's sort of like a chain link fence. You can see through it just fine.
It makes the bus a bit darker, it acts like window tint in the summer, so it's nice and cool inside. Buses without window tint are really hot in summer.
Some of our buses have tint and air conditioning. It's very nice. :)
Ayreonaut
01-30-2009, 01:16 AM
Fancy.
SouthJersey7
01-30-2009, 01:21 AM
NJ Transit buses. All the city buses in the state, except for smaller county and private agencies, are run by NJ Transit and use the same color scheme. I actually ride these quite regularly.
There's old ones...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2299535468_61122b8912.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/
http://www.davemackey.com/njt/gallery/3711.jpg
http://www.davemackey.com/
http://www.motorbussociety.org/conventn/05fall/NJT8008atCamdenWRTC.jpg
http://www.motorbussociety.org/
and new ones:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/NJ_Transit_Nova_Bus_RTS_82VN_1587.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/NJ_Transit_Nova_RTS_1188.jpg
both from http://upload.wikimedia.org/
This is cool, I want one! :banana:
http://www.collect-corner.net/Flxible%20NJ%20Transit%20a.jpg
http://www.collect-corner.net/
seaskyfan
01-30-2009, 01:22 AM
Have you ever actually ridden a wrapped bus? The wrap isn't solid. It's sort of like a chain link fence. You can see through it just fine.
I have ridden on a wrapped bus - multiple times before they got rid of most of them here (Sound Transit still has some, King County Metro has discontinued them for now). It was annoying to look through the mesh (more like a mesh t-shirt than a chain link fence) during the day - it was very difficult to see out of it at night particularly when it was raining. The wrap also made the interior of the bus darker and made the whole bus riding experience more claustrophobic. I think whatever genius decided that bus windows were available for rent should have his/her house covered in the crap.
Probably did, some of us like the nice dark cool buses. I really don't care for the ones that left in every bit of light out there, it's just as bad when you can't see out one window because of glare from another.
KevinFromTexas
01-30-2009, 03:12 AM
Make sure to credit the photographers with a link to where you found the photos, otherwise your post will be deleted. Thanks.
KevinFromTexas
01-30-2009, 03:19 AM
Oh now I actually like ad wraps.
Money for the agency + more color = everybody wins.
I don't really get the anti-ad thing so many people have going on. IMO every blank wall in the city should have a billboard.
Totally. I'd rather see buses rolling around with ads on them than god awful 100 foot tall billboards any day. The company gets advertising and the transit system gets some extra dollars. And now when I look back to our old buses in the days without advertising, they looked boring. Plus some of the ads on buses can be really creative.
JMancuso
01-30-2009, 03:23 AM
http://www.pbase.com/mancusoj/image/24657004.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/mancusoj/image/34177598.jpg
ThreeHundred
02-04-2009, 06:29 PM
^ Is that what they call 'tippin on 44's?'
Busy Bee
02-04-2009, 06:34 PM
That's what they call someone who should be shot.
Cirrus
02-04-2009, 07:26 PM
Oh yeah, that's the special Compensator Edition of the Escalade.
Seriously though, that just makes me laugh at the dweeb who drives it. The Escalade is not in any way a badass car and cannot be turned into one with big wheels and the pickup option. I don't even want to shoot this loser. My normal rage for people who drive unnecessarily large cars is turned to pity for this guy, who obviously has absolutely no clue about his own retardedness.
deasine
02-04-2009, 07:44 PM
Vancouver TransLink
Trolley Bus: New Flyer
New Livery:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4725/articulatedtrolleyinchion2.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.pngSFUVancouver's photo posted on SSP
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/236/articulatedtrolleyoncomcw1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.pngSFUVancouver's photo posted on SSP
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1483/articulatedtrolleyinterrf8.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.pngSFUVancouver's photo posted on SSP
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/9941/rushhourartictrolleysmakb3.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.pngSFUVancouver's photo posted on SSP
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4957/p1000813xz0.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.pngMy Photo posted on SSP
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/210/cl003lt9.png
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.pngMy Photo posted on SSP
Old Livery/Buses:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1397/572582698_3ce51b4e57.jpg?v=0
Photo posted by Dusty2Trails on Flickr
Note: These buses have been all sold to Argentina
Highway Express Bus Coaches: Orion
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7831/cl083bz9.png
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.pngMy Photo posted on SSP
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6669/cl082lf8.png
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.pngMy Photo posted on SSP
Old Livery:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1150/1325104507_f47b5e4088.jpg
Photo by stephen Rees postedo n stephen Rees Blog
Note: Old Highway Bus Coach Livery is just white space instead of grey.
Articulated Buses: New Flyer
New Livery:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/deasine/SDdPfO0AbjI/AAAAAAAACYg/GcP84K6qMD4/Untitled.jpg?imgmax=800
Photo taken by Bill Wong posted on TransLink's Gallery
Old Livery:
http://stephenrees.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/translink-r8076-d60lf-on-98-b-line-richmond-bc-2007_0708.jpg
Photo taken by Stephen Rees on Stephen Rees Blog
Note: This livery is only used on B-Lines. Older generation B-Line buses using the same design except with a red stripe instead of a yellow one.
CNG Buses: New Flyer
http://stephenrees.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/translink-p3354-port-coquitlam-bc-2006_1031.jpg
Photo by Stephen Rees posted on Stephen Rees Blog
http://media.nowpublic.net/images//98/7/98775c122ba0f9020689d1fff50e90f9.jpg
Photo by Stephen Rees posted on NowPublic
Low Floor Buses: New Flyer
New Livery:
http://luther.ca/photos/abbotsford/bus-aldergove.png
Photo by Delirius posted on Liquid This! Blog
Old Livery:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_c0RkemXZLVg/SHAIfwobCTI/AAAAAAAAAR8/bIDHPqC2L9g/DSC07533.JPG
Posted by Lokesh.K.Raj on Picasa
Low Floor Buses: Nova Bus
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2323/2166560895_5f1441512f.jpg?v=1201946572
Photo by BuckyHermet posted on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2386/2231795339_fab185dab2.jpg?v=1201943784
Photo by BuckyHermet posted on Flickr
Community Shuttles: Ford
New Livery:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1183/1167307446_f9bb3e688c.jpg
Posted on Just A Gwai Loh
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1422/1062931460_26f2cf5c05.jpg?v=1201947901
Posted by BuckyHermit on Flickr
Old Livery:
http://www.janesellshomes.ca/images/jane-bus.jpg
Posted by Jane Langton on Jamessellhomes
http://www.trek.ubc.ca/programs/community_shuttle/imgs/shuttlebus.jpg
Posted on TREK UBC
JMancuso
02-04-2009, 07:44 PM
lol. i took that pic 5 years ago (my only one hosted online with a metro bus in it) and i still see that thing around this area every so often.
jcchii
02-05-2009, 02:57 AM
chicago buses are being taken over by advertising wrap.
my line is about 50-50 these days
FREKI
02-05-2009, 04:31 AM
Are there no double deckers at all in the US/Canada?
If no any reason why not?
seaskyfan
02-05-2009, 04:41 AM
Are there no double deckers at all in the US/Canada?
If no any reason why not?
Community Transit which serves Snohomish County north of Seattle (including a lot of routes to and from Downtown Seattle) has one in service and 23 more on order. They call it the "DoubleTall" - a play on the local coffee obsession.
http://www.commtrans.org/Projects/DoubleTall.cfm
According to their info the only other place in the US that is using double deckers is Las Vegas.
JMancuso
02-05-2009, 04:49 AM
I would imagine double deckers are either too expensive or too tall or both or simply not a north american phenomenon. we have lots of bendy buses though.
deasine
02-05-2009, 05:34 AM
Are there no double deckers at all in the US/Canada?
If no any reason why not?
Victoria, BC uses double deckers too
staff
02-05-2009, 07:37 AM
Are there no double deckers at all in the US/Canada?
If no any reason why not?
I think the reason double deckers are used in certain cities are the width of streets and general street pattern. It would be impossible to run articulated buses on certain stretches in old town Copenhagen or through parts of London's medieval streets for example. Articulated buses are probably cheaper to both acquire and maintain (I have no idea about this though).
Cirrus
02-05-2009, 02:44 PM
^
Correct. Since most American and Canadian cities have grids of streets rather than the tight jumbles of European streets, articulated buses are easier to use than double decker buses.
There are only a handful of cities in the US or Canada with areas of European-style medieval-type street networks. New York, Boston and Washington in the States, and probably only Quebec in Canada. Even then, in all cases the area in question is relatively small.
hammersklavier
02-05-2009, 02:53 PM
I have seen double-decker tourist buses here in Philadelphia...but that's more like a touristy gimmick, like the Ride the Ducks thing (OMG they are so godawfully annoying with their quacking!). There are no double-decker buses in the Philadelphia transit system (SEPTA) whatsoever (although there are plenty of articulated or bendy ones).
chiguy123
02-12-2009, 02:33 AM
Anyone know why the CTA ordered the new New Flyers with the old front instead of the new one? I think they are going to look dated sooner because of it...
Here are the main buses currently used in Chicago:
These are the newest and are currently being delivered, 60' New Flyer Articulated Hybrids:
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww271/crewkid19/newflyerartic.jpg
40' New Flyers (almost all of them are new):
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww271/crewkid19/newflyer.jpg
60' NABI Articulated buses (have been unreliable and have suspension issues, but look good IMO):
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww271/crewkid19/nabi.jpg
40' Novabus (kinda goofy looking I think):
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww271/crewkid19/goodnovaaa.jpg
40' Flxible (oldest in service, only high floor buses left in the CTA):
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww271/crewkid19/flxible.jpg
The older Novabuses look really really happy. The new design with smaller headlights look more mature and serious.
Busy Bee
02-12-2009, 02:50 AM
Ohh yeah! Still the best...
http://www.busdrawings.com/Transit/illinois/chicago/1976t8h5307a/9228.jpg
http://www.busdrawings.com/Transit/illinois/chicago/1982manartic/7220.jpg
A nice pastel colour. Just like Winnipeg's previous design. It was also replaced with an uninspired, uniconic blue stripe.
Busy Bee
02-12-2009, 03:20 AM
Here's another...
http://forum.chicagobus.org/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=903
chicagobus.org
Metro Transit (Halifax/Dartmouth, Canada) has had maybe 4 different liveries since it was created in 1981.
The earliest:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/0453.jpg
Next, my personal favourite. Blue/green stripes, nice typeface, and a little green swish that served as the MT logo.
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/hmt211.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/hmt887.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/hmt701.jpg
Next, the short-lived blue/yellow stripes.
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/HMT-1019.jpg
Current livery:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/Metro_Transit_979_new_livery.jpg
Current ferry livery:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/Halifax_ferry.jpg
All photos credited to barp.ca, except for the last two, which are from Wikipedia
ThreeHundred
02-17-2009, 05:31 PM
Tucson just released new drawings of the new SunTran buses. As well as the new logo.
http://www.rtamobility.com/images/stories/pdfs/sun/SunTran.jpg
http://www.rtamobility.com/images/stories/pdfs/sun/SunExpress.jpg
http://www.rtamobility.com/images/stories/pdfs/sun/SunConnect.jpg
http://www.rtamobility.com/images/stories/pdfs/sun/SunVan.jpg
http://www.rtamobility.com/images/stories/pdfs/sun/SunRideshare.jpg
I think they look pretty cool.
Busy Bee
02-18-2009, 12:40 AM
They're OK. I'm not a big fan of using gray on transit vehicles.
urbanactivistTX
03-16-2009, 09:05 PM
I was wondering... what are all of the North American cities that have some form of BRT?? I'd love to see them.
I took some recent pics of Houston area busses..
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm53/wayne2k33/janufeb1099.jpg?t=1237169472
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm53/wayne2k33/janufeb1014.jpg?t=1237169794
Cirrus
03-16-2009, 10:01 PM
I think the Tuscon scheme is pretty sharp. I MUCH prefer gray to white as a background color.
I'm not from San Francisco, but I have a lot of pictures of the transit there. Here are some of its buses. I don't *think* the different colors mean anything, but it's possible I'm wrong.
The first one (grey with red) is my favorite. Not a fan or the orange and white.
http://beyonddc.com/galleries2/2009SF/11Transit/images/f000_7226.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/galleries2/2009SF/11Transit/images/f100_6905.jpg
http://beyonddc.com/galleries2/2009SF/11Transit/images/f100_7114.jpg
Jarrod
03-16-2009, 10:19 PM
Are there no double deckers at all in the US/Canada?
If no any reason why not?
Victoria, BC uses them since the streets are narrow and it's too hard for the articulated to get around the corners. I think that Kelowna, BC also has double decker buses
Mobius57
03-17-2009, 12:10 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2988808115_62cd0189f2.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3085/3234263375_d02f966910.jpg?v=0
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1051/3165282954_f1a2b096ae.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/3137345942_cb26ed691e.jpg?v=0
Krases
03-17-2009, 04:04 AM
Las Vegas recently acquired about 130 double Decker buses. I see them all the time now and often times they are stuffed full of people.
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr226/KrasesSkyscraper/4deuce.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr226/KrasesSkyscraper/Gwen-709751.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr226/KrasesSkyscraper/IMGP1381.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr226/KrasesSkyscraper/las_vegas_cat_bus.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr226/KrasesSkyscraper/USAbyTimHall-TheDeuce.jpg
rockyi
03-21-2009, 04:12 PM
Are there no double deckers at all in the US/Canada?
If no any reason why not?
Speaking on behalf of my metro, we have no double deckers because we simply have too many low railroad overpasses that do this kind of damage.
http://www.uniquedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/truck-eating-bridge.jpg
The latest doubledecker design with 3 entrances.
The yellow color is typical for all Berlin buses.
http://www.fontblog.de/wp-content/bvg_bus.jpg
http://www.stadtbus2.de/nachrichten/n_foto_0802_man-1.jpg
Justin10000
03-22-2009, 01:45 PM
Victoria, BC uses them since the streets are narrow and it's too hard for the articulated to get around the corners. I think that Kelowna, BC also has double decker buses
Go Transit also uses them in the Toronto Area, and megabuses use a double decker on some of it's Toronto-New York runs.
SHOFEAR
03-23-2009, 03:29 AM
Most routes are serviced by these
http://www.barp.ca/bus/ets/ets2002d40lf/4326.jpg
Some routes are still serviced by these. Including most trolley routes.
http://www.barp.ca/bus/ets/ets1976t6h5307n/0647.jpg
These old ones occasionally get pulled out for park and ride for big events.
http://www.barp.ca/bus/ets/ets1975t6h5307n/ets372.jpg
this thing just looks retarded
http://barp.ca/bus/alberta/ets/2007glavaleasyon/IMG_2806.JPG
Krases
03-23-2009, 04:10 AM
:previous: Its even apologizing because it looks so retarded.
I think the old CAT bus color scheme here in Vegas is pretty retarded. Some of the buses still have it. Its like the late 80's are attacking.
Cirrus
03-23-2009, 04:25 AM
megabuses use a double decker on some of it's Toronto-New York runsMegabus uses them all over. Double deckers are fairly common in the coach industry.
DJ.SURF.LFS
03-23-2009, 06:52 PM
Double deckers are fairly common in the coach industry.
in north america, not really.
Cirrus
03-23-2009, 09:11 PM
Er, I live in North America and see them all the time.
TampAGS
03-28-2009, 09:50 AM
From Tampa...
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HARTline (Hillsborough Area Regional Transit - Hillsborough County, Florida)
Old Livery (currently being phased out gradually):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/HART_bus_9.JPG/800px-HART_bus_9.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/HARTline_Bus_4.jpg
New Livery:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/12/HART_2015_new_livery_2.JPG/800px-HART_2015_new_livery_2.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ef/HART_bus_2221.JPG/800px-HART_bus_2221.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/HART_2015_new_livery.JPG/800px-HART_2015_new_livery.JPG
New Livery for Commuter Express route:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5a/HART_Commuter_Express_Bus.jpg/800px-HART_Commuter_Express_Bus.jpg
Above images from Wikipedia user Wslupecki (public domain)
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Note from moderation: Nice photos below, but this thread is for BUSES.
From TampAGS: Sorry, I did not mean to get ahead of myself (or the thread).
I was simply going by the examples set earlier in this thread by several posts which remain unedited and include ferries, LRV's and other rail, streetcars, etc., the photos of which continue to display as they had when originally posted.
TECO Line Streetcar System
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/2669427294_d1960ed419_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/2669429508_484f34715d_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/2668608773_feae9c0d1e_o.jpg
Flickr user James Willamor: Some rights reserved (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/deed.en)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2647558262_3f4c3e348a_b.jpg
Flickr user dklimke: Some Rights Reserved (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/deed.en)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2293/1770849934_47beb154e8.jpg
Flickr user Gilbert R.: Some Rights Reserved ( "http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed.en")
Open-Air "Breezer" Car:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3448/3247912756_aa5546ac53.jpg
Flickr user Viewoftheworld: Some Rights Reserved (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/deed.en)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Tecostreetcar.jpg
Wikipedia user TheCustomOfLife (public domain)
Interior:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/2847067542_19bc08a1c3.jpg?v=0]
Flickr user Ezhar/Ingmar: Some Rights Reserved (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/29399005_11ef9c47a4.jpg
Flickr user trainman74: Some Rights Reserved (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/deed.en)
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Tampa International Airport
Long-Term Parking Garage Monorail:
World's first fully computer-controlled monorail system, and first system to incorporate active switches.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/I-275/664276-Tampa_International_Airport-Tampa.jpg
Photobucket user I-275
Airside/Landside People Mover:
(In operation since 1971 - first automated people mover used by an airport)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/TPA_people_mover.jpg
Copyright James G. Howes (Wikipedia user JGHowes)
There are 2 major bus companies in Hong Kong
1.
KMB (Kowloon Motor Bus).
Since 1933, it has been serving Hong Kong.
It has 3,933 buses and about 12,000 staff, and carry about 2.7 million passengers each day on 399 routes
Its routes mainly cover Kowloon and New Territories of Hong Kong
http://www.kmb.hk/chi/profile/kingdom/images/image004.jpg
KMB is the first franchised bus company to have put Euro IV double-deckers into service in Hong Kong
http://www.kmb.hk/chi/environmental/images/en_3.gif
More than 70% of the buses have installed TV
http://www.kmb.hk/chi/profile/tech/images/image004.jpg
Hong Kong's first air-conditioned passenger waiting lounge is situated at the Route 42C bus terminus at Lam Tin Bus Terminus.
http://www.kmb.hk/eng/next/news/service/image/news3q02/p2002101001_4.jpg
Cyber Bus Stop ( around 20% of bus stop)
http://www.kmb.hk/eng/profile/tech/images/inter_busstop.jpg
Solar-Powered Informative Bus Shelter(10%)
http://www.kmb.hk/eng/profile/tech/images/image002.jpg
normal bus stop(40%)
http://static.flickr.com/1048/1047963185_1bbe206710.jpg
old bus stop(30%)
http://static.flickr.com/3109/2503500925_eee629fd58.jpg
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2.
Citybus & NWFB
The information of it is quite similar to the KMB, so I will only post some pic.
www.elvisip.com/thk/nwfb/6000/6029.jpg
bus stop
johnchan.phychembio.com/simshop/bus/nwfb.png
Distill3d
04-02-2009, 01:28 AM
double decker in Victoria BC:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/starfcuk/vicbus.jpg
mersar
04-02-2009, 03:30 AM
I like the new BC transit livery better then the old:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/kmb2e/double%20decker%20in%20North%20America/IMG_1716.jpg
kmb2e (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v411/kmb2e/) on photobucket (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v411/kmb2e/double%20decker%20in%20North%20America/?action=view¤t=IMG_1675.jpg)
I'd say it does look better on the single level buses though, the white space on the new double deckers is a bit off.
GO's livery on their double deckers isn't bad though:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/kmb2e/8002.jpg?t=1238643222
kmb2e (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v411/kmb2e/) on photobucket (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v411/kmb2e/?action=view¤t=8002.jpg)
Distill3d
04-02-2009, 07:50 AM
^ i'm not sure that i agree that the new livery is better. the second deck of the bus looks like it was an after thought. more space for advertising i suppose, but still for transit, plain white = boring
rmcconnell
04-02-2009, 11:34 PM
I'm surprised that nobody's included buses from my hometown yet... although New York's buses really aren't that interesting with respect to color schemes. The current blue stripe on a white base is based on a design from the late 1970s which has changed very little up to this day:
http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/tn/239.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/239.jpg) http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/tn/3821.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/3821.jpg)
It actually looks decent on the newest Orion hybrid buses -- I guess that's because of the exterior frameless windows which make the bus look a bit "sleeker".
In 2008, the MTA unveiled "Select Bus Service" (basically a half-baked "bus rapid transit" idea) on the Bx12 route, which necessitated its own color scheme to differentiate "select" buses from ordinary ones. Unfortunately, it didn't come out very well -- just a confused collection of blue waves and "+" symbols, with an oversized MTA logo (so nobody's confused as to who operates the bus, I guess...?)
http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/tn/5747.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/5747.jpg)
Although up until a few years ago, there were a number of private bus companies operating in New York City, each with their own unique color scheme. But they've all been absorbed into the MTA, with all buses either repainted into the traditional blue and white or retired.
http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/tn/687.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/687.jpg) http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/tn/7164.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/mta/bus/7164.jpg) http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/gbl/tn/246.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/gbl/246.jpg) http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/tcc/tn/2144-2.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/tcc/2144-2.jpg) http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/tcc/tn/765.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/tcc/765.jpg) http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/nybs/tn/1620.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/nybs/1620.jpg) http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/jbi/tn/3701.jpg (http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/jbi/3701.jpg)
Photos are my own; click to enlarge.
I go to college in Los Angeles, and I'm much more impressed with the Los Angeles Metro's choice of color schemes -- their livery is simple, yet it stands out. But that's just my opinion.
Busy Bee
04-03-2009, 01:22 AM
For me, not much beats the classy dark blue/light blue (navy/sky blue?) NYCTA scheme of the 70's/early 80's. Just plain handsome. Love those hubs!
http://www.railfanwindow.com/gallery2/d/130789-2/DSC_8009a.jpg
Flxible
Distill3d
04-03-2009, 09:10 PM
http://rmcconnell.com/transit/ny/gbl/246.jpg
those buses look so cool and modern. they certainly don't look like the boxes on wheels most buses resemble.
Cirrus
04-03-2009, 09:35 PM
^
I like that model too, but ironically enough it's decades old.
DENrising
04-04-2009, 08:49 PM
Are there no double deckers at all in the US/Canada?
If no any reason why not?
Las Vegas has the "Deuce"
http://www.rtcsouthernnevada.com/transit/Deuce/index.cfm
LMich
04-05-2009, 10:48 AM
Capital Area Transportation Authority (CATA): Lansing, Michigan, USA
http://www.cata.org/Portals/0/images/CATA-Home-Billboard1.jpg
CATA.org (http://www.cata.org/)
UrbTransPlanner
04-05-2009, 03:40 PM
I was wondering... what are all of the North American cities that have some form of BRT?? I'd love to see them.
I took some recent pics of Houston area busses..
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm53/wayne2k33/janufeb1099.jpg?t=1237169472
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm53/wayne2k33/janufeb1014.jpg?t=1237169794
You know, there's some REALLY nice new hybrids on the street. METRO is buying 100 new hybrids a year, but the newest ones are extremely nice. I've ridden the first issue--higher seat backs w/ upholstery. Much quieter inside too.
EDIT: Here's a sample of the first set of hybrids ordered;
http://images.quickblogcast.com/69589-61000/MHOU.jpg
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