[Alpha]

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Official sources:
Unofficial sources: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernmeldeturm_Hochoberndorf

Building Name: Fernmeldeturm Hochoberndorf
Native Name:
Other Names: Sender Deggendorf
Coordinates: 48°52'41"N 12°59'37"E
Address: Hochoberndorf
City: Grafling
Postal Code: 94539
State/Province: Bavaria
Country: Germany
Official Building Website URL:
Skyscrapers.com (Emporis.info) URL:
Architect:
Interesting Facts/Records (in own words): Lattice tower used for radio relay links, FM-broadcasting
and before introduction of DVB-T for TV broadcasting ( Sender Deggendorf)

Owner and operator: Deutsche Telekom AG

Picture: http://www.dxradio-ffm.de/web//Hochoberndorf_X.jpeg

Heights--

PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCES FOR HEIGHTS, OTHERWISE WE WILL ASSUME THEY ARE ESTIMATES.
- antenna: 83 metres
- spire:
- roof:
- top floor:
- other heights:

Current Building Status (Built, Proposed, Canceled, Destroyed, etc...): Built

Construction Dates--
- started:
- finished:
- destroyed:


Above ground floors:
Below ground floors:
Floor-to-floor height:
Gross Floor area:
Elevator count:
Unit count: 1

Structure Type(s): Tower
Building Use(s): Communication
Building Style(s):
Building Materials: Steel
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City Name: Grafling
Native Name:
State/Province: Bavaria
Country: Germany
Population: 2798
Population Source & Year: http://www.destatis.de/cgi-bin/druckansicht_gvsuche.pl?2009219131610.htm (2007)
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[M.K.]

There is no way this tower is in Grafling, it is located near Hochoberndorf. Please Alpha, try to put your structures, requesting in the correct geographical position, because you are continuing making wrongly. I told you already to consult Google Earth or Maps for better precision.

Grafling is 2.33 km away when Hochoberndorf is nearby only 0.2 km. And not only that, many other villages are between Grafling like Artzing, Unterprechhausen, Wühn and so on. And please do not tell me about administrative, while all those villages are equally in size belonging to Degeendorf area, also Grafling that is the most far away in north.

So please correct your entry request. Just because it does not have population source in web, does not mean you have to chose whatever village which has population source. We insert structures in a geographical, first, and also administrative, second, cities or villages. You know that.

[Alpha]

On http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafling you can read that
the following villages belong to Grafling

Alberting, Arzting, Bergern, Eidsberg, Endbogen, Engelsburgsried, Giggenberg, Grasslingsberg, Großtiefenbach, Grub, Hirschberg, Hochoberndorf, Kleintiefenbach, Mühlen, Oberprechhausen, Paußing, Petraching, Rohrmünz, Unterprechhausen, Wühn and Wühnried

So my posting is correct. A small village is often a part of a larger community. Not only in Germany.

[M.K.]

We all know Alpha that you edit a lot Wikipedia. So Wikipedia is easy to be edited from everyone and Wikipedia is not an official source.

No it is wrong, if you see precisely in Google Maps you will see that Garfling is complete away where this tower is located, has absolute nothing to do with the geografical location. If you want to be included then Hochoberndorf is the most proximity.

I will not include in this way anymore. Everytime you put too less sources, normally only wikimapia where the links really do not work and wikipedia is not official for SSP, you know that.

The minimum we require is precision in the geographic location. Everytime with the coordinates I take an attention in Google Earth and realise you put locations too far away.

There is no sense because a 'dorf' village is in the near but belongs administative to a 500 km away big city, just because there is no other bigger city nearby, is really not a good argument. If it would be so then Itaipú Dam for example does not belong to Paraguay and Paraná but just to Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro because its headquarters are in Sao Paulo and is the main city which receives the eletricity? No I am sorry this time, you are wrong. :sly:

Here community does count less as geographical location. And the community this tower belongs is Hochoberndorf. If it is not so, why do you put the name this tower as Tower of Hochoberndorf = Fermeldeturm Hochoberndorf? You are trying to manipulate just to give a population. I told you already, if you do not have population, it is ok, I told you already, but it must be precise.

[Artemco]

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=82860

[M.K.]

I deleted cause it was in wrong city. I lived in Bavaria for more than 10 years to know there is no possibility this tower is in this village. If you want to be included, please correct the village. It is important for Alpha to understand requesting in correct way.

[Alpha]

Grafling is the correct village. Hochoberndorf is a part of Grafling, although it looks like an idependent village. You cannot find in the database of http://www.destatis.de/gv/suche_gv2000.htm any data of Hochoberndorf as it as part of an other community in this case Grafling. In fact only such cities can be posted as cities in Germany for which data are given in http://www.destatis.de/gv/suche_gv2000.htm . Other villages are part of other communities.

[M.K.]

No it is not. Please see at Google Earth and google Maps, You are totally wrong. Destatis is very imprecise about that, because it is a small village. This village does not have more than 50 people, just that.

I will not include in Grafling, because it is wrong. I do in the right way. Please next time try to make correct. http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=82915

Du bist Sturr wenn du so denkst. Du mußte andere Meinungen akzeptieren. Das wäre korrekter von dir.