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rocketphish
Mar 22, 2009, 4:00 AM
It looks like Domicile is delaying the Second Avenue West development (804-824 Bronson):

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Lessons+down+sizing/1412429/story.html


Lessons in down-sizing

Domicile redesigns sexy penthouse, waits on market to launch ambitious Glebe project

By Sheila Brady, The Ottawa Citizen, March 21, 2009

David Chick is a prudent fellow, a veteran real estate lawyer turned developer who is looking for signs the economy is warming up before launching an ambitious four-storey condo in the Glebe. He's hoping the brick condo project, Second Avenue West, will be introduced in May. There are more than 400 names on a priority list, waiting to see the plans and price tags.

"It's a new reality," says Chick, who left the prestigious legal firm of Nelligan O'Brien Payne to sign on as senior vice-president at Domicile three years ago.

"It was the biggest decision in my life and it's a real challenge," says Chick, who worked with Domicile president John Doran for many years before taking over as the firm's exec in charge of negotiating land purchases, financing, design and marketing. "I love it, but it's a bit scary now."

Chick joined Domicile, shortly before the company launched G, an upscale glass and brick condo on Bank Street beside Central Park.

The economy was healthy in March 2007, and Domicile thought it had a golden site for young professionals and boomers who wanted condo living in the heart of the Glebe.

Turns out G's smaller condos sold well, many to young professionals, but the larger two-storey condos costing between $700,000 and $1 million couldn't find buyers. "We thought the market would eat up a building in the exclusive Glebe," says Chick. "There were no nibbles."

So Domicile shifted gears and redesigned the top floor. Now there are four condos left in the glass and brick building, including a slick two-bedroom penthouse model that opened earlier this month.

To decorate the model, Doran called on his old buddy Alan Gratias, who with his partner Joanie Hilborn had combined bright colours, old pine and Philippe Stark's Ghost chair in Domicile's model townhomes at Merrion Square on Breezehill Avenue last spring.

The Ghost chair and pine furniture are now part of a new urban story overlooking Bank Street. Gratias and Hilborn added a leather sectional sofa, a glass dining room table, lots of good art for the walls that stretch up 12 feet, and sophisticated blinds that soften light streaming through the large windows.

The pair, who own an art gallery and farm overlooking Lake Ontario, wanted to create an Ottawa version of a New York City artist's loft. There are funky sculptures and, if you look closely, photographs of Gratias, Hilborn and their beloved dog Roger.

The master bedroom is a sophisticated affair, combining a dark brown bed from Phillip van Leeuwen and art of young girl and a bluebird, while the second bedroom is set up as a getaway for a teenager, but could just as easily be a home office. There is a flat-screen television over the fireplace and a galley kitchen set on an angle. The penthouse also has access to a deck overlooking Bank Street and Central Park to the west.

The 1,175-square-foot model penthouse is priced at $537,000, says Chick, adding they will sell it if there is a buyer.

"In this market, we will set up another model in the building." There are two other penthouse condos priced at $582,200 and $638,400 and a smaller, two-bedroom condo on the second floor for $466,300.

Domicile is one of the city's leading boutique condo builders, introducing a pair of traditional red brick condos on Cooper Street in the late 1990s, then getting edgy by turning an old government building on Argyle Avenue into funky, industrial condos in 2000. The company moved into Westboro with upscale industrial brick buildings and spread out to townhomes and condos near Dow's Lake and Overbrook.

Domicile is now finalizing plans and pricing for Second Avenue West, its four-storey brick condo that will sit on the west side of Bronson Avenue, directly across from Second Avenue.

"It is a new reality," repeats Chick, who has learned pricing and design lessons since G was introduced. The economy has changed dramatically in the past several months and he is crunching numbers, trying to keep prices down as much as possible.

It's also key to keep a lid on condo fees, but the building will have a board room, a detailed lobby and a fitness room. "We want to concentrate on a good building envelope and offer designs that will stand the test of time," says Chick.

Ottawa architect Rod Lahey designed the 70-unit building, which has a central core that steps back from Bronson. The condos will be smaller than those on Bank Street, likely averaging 850 square feet, with an even split between one- and two-bedrooms.

"The economy over the last few months has affected our business, and we feel that people are going to accept slightly smaller living spaces to keep track of rising costs. They also want to be smart about being green," says Chick, noting that right now boomers are holding back on trading in their houses for condos. "They are not feeling as urgent a need to do this. The economy has hurt their pensions and they have also been hit in expectations of their home's value and ability to sell."

In addition to watching the economy, Chick is waiting for warmer weather and the spring market when the majority of people thinking about moving take the next step and buy.

"We have all the approvals and we are aware this is the only condo likely on the horizon in the area," says Chick. "We feel confident we will be launching in May, and the market will be there for this site."

Sheila Brady is the Citizen's Homes Editor. You can reach her at sbrady@thecitizen.canwest.com.


and here's a small sketch that accompanied the article:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/3664581631_318d72a59a_o_d.jpg

kwoldtimer
Mar 22, 2009, 1:42 PM
It looks like Domicile is delaying the Second Avenue West development (804-824 Bronson):


.... Ottawa architect Rod Lahey designed the 70-unit building, which has a central core that steps back from Bronson. The condos will be smaller than those on Bank Street, likely averaging 850 square feet, with an even split between one- and two-bedrooms.

"The economy over the last few months has affected our business, and we feel that people are going to accept slightly smaller living spaces to keep track of rising costs. ....


and here's a small sketch that accompanied the article:

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/0/5/5/3/3/1/webimg/244160144_o.jpg

I have very high regard for Domicile and if they already have 400 people on their waiting list I suspect that they have (again) accurately judged their target market, but 850 sq ft on Bronson (west side at that!) doesn't seem to me to have a high "lifestyle" factor. It will be interesting to see how the units are priced in the current slow condo market.

hackunion
Mar 23, 2009, 3:23 AM
I take the 4 down Bronson every day and I've seen the Domicile sign up for a while at this location, but won't some of the houses need to be demolished at Bronson and 2nd in order to build this thing?

PS - 1000, woo!

kingcobra
Mar 23, 2009, 4:10 PM
I have a brochure of this proposed condominium. I will scan and post it here tonight.

Mille Sabords
Mar 31, 2009, 5:10 PM
Here are a couple of shots of the site as it is today (pictures mine):

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/OttawaMarch2009001.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/OttawaMarch2009002.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/OttawaMarch2009004.jpg

It's too bad to have to lose those old homes, especially since the replacement building doesn't have anything to tie it better to the street (not only no retail, but also a "core that steps back from Bronson" according to the article. Long way to go before this can really become a genuine main street.

Mille Sabords
May 15, 2009, 1:03 AM
I registered for updates on their website a while ago and was rewarded with an e-mail announcing the opening of their sales on June 11th. Here is the rendering that goes with it:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/CortinaFan/Condos/DomicileSecondAveWest02.jpg

You know, I look at it and it's a pleasant enough building for a residential street. I'm not sure it's such a great fit on a street like Bronson. Sure, it's a pretty residential stretch of Bronson, but the design of this building, with the lay-by, the hedgerow etc., strengthens that status instead of moving toward a more Mainstreet-ish vocabulary.

AuxTown
May 15, 2009, 1:23 AM
I feel like Bronson has too many cars going too fast on it for it to be comfortable for pedestrians....or for residences to be close to the street for that matter. I think they are trying to separate these condos from the street both physically and symbolically (with that hedge) for that reason. Any road construction along Bronson seems to be solidifying it as a street for getting places and not a street to go to. Bank is not far away and will continue to be the main street for the Centretown, the Glebe, and Old Ottawa South. Meanwhile, these condos look great, they fit in really well with the Glasgow next door, and there's nothing wrong with having 5-6x the current population density on that site.

kwoldtimer
May 15, 2009, 1:46 AM
Sure, it's a pretty residential stretch of Bronson, but the design of this building, with the lay-by, the hedgerow etc., strengthens that status instead of moving toward a more Mainstreet-ish vocabulary.

I think that is precisely the intent. That stretch is resolutely residential, despite the quasi-expressway that Bronson has become (did the City learn absolutely nothing from King Edward :shrug: ).

Mille Sabords
May 15, 2009, 1:26 PM
I feel like Bronson has too many cars going too fast on it for it to be comfortable for pedestrians....or for residences to be close to the street for that matter. I think they are trying to separate these condos from the street both physically and symbolically (with that hedge) for that reason. Any road construction along Bronson seems to be solidifying it as a street for getting places and not a street to go to. Bank is not far away and will continue to be the main street for the Centretown, the Glebe, and Old Ottawa South. Meanwhile, these condos look great, they fit in really well with the Glasgow next door, and there's nothing wrong with having 5-6x the current population density on that site.

Yes, that's the point, and that's why this project looks like it does. I simply deplore the fact that with every passing project, Bronson's highway status is solidified a little more. Charlesfort missed a great opportunity to have even one coffee shop on the ground level, and they have even less excuse because The Glasgow is within a small commercial hub that could easily consolidate (and indeed should, if we want to avoid having it whither away). Domicile's site is tougher for mixed use, yes, and the extra density is welcome, yes. And the Traditional Mainstreet does end at Carling, so there's really nothing to criticize aside from a wish that things eventually move south on Bronson, one block at a time.

Kitchissippi
May 15, 2009, 1:39 PM
What really needs to be done on Bronson between Carling and the Canal is to change the peceived scale of the street by adding bike lanes and wider sidewalks with pedestrian-scale lamps and street furniture. These visual clues are subliminal signals to drivers that they do not have full priority on the street. Presently, the streetlamps are too high and the sidewalks are cracked and narrow, which is a sign of neglect and tells drivers the "nobody walks there so I can speed".

Ryersonian
May 15, 2009, 2:21 PM
What really needs to be done on Bronson between Carling and the Canal is to change the peceived scale of the street by adding bike lanes and wider sidewalks with pedestrian-scale lamps and street furniture. These visual clues are subliminal signals to drivers that they do not have full priority on the street. Presently, the streetlamps are too high and the sidewalks are cracked and narrow, which is a sign of neglect and tells drivers the "nobody walks there so I can speed".

Can I hear an AMEN! This is an absoultley brilliant and astute comment.

Mille Sabords
May 15, 2009, 4:49 PM
Amen, brother.

waterloowarrior
May 15, 2009, 11:12 PM
There's an RFQ out on MERX that may be of interest
http://www.merx.com/English/SUPPLIER_Menu.Asp?WCE=Show&TAB=1&PORTAL=MERX&State=7&id=173630&FED_ONLY=0&hcode=dBMptaAdOGPoy7hFXwrjKA%3d%3d

Request for Qualifications - Bronson Avenue (Queen Street to Rideau Canal) Road, Sewer and Watermain

Addendum No. 1 has been issued.

Reconstruction

Preliminary and Detail Design and Tender Documents

The City of Ottawa, Infrastructure Branch is seeking proposals to provide professional engineering services to conduct preliminary and detailed design and tender documents for Bronson Avenue (Queen Street to Rideau Canal) Road, Sewer and Watermain Reconstruction.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT:

Colleen Gorman
Purchasing Officer
Supply Management Branch
Tel: (613) 580-2424 Ext: 25829

The proposal MUST be received NO LATER than 3:00 p.m. local time, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 at the following location:

City of Ottawa
Supply Management Branch
100 Constellation Crescent, 4th Floor West Tower
Nepean, Ontario K2G 6J8

The Procurement of goods specified in this bid document is subject to the provisions of the Agreement on Internal Trade (AIT) and the Ontario-Quebec Procurement Agreement (OQPA).

All information submitted in response to this RFQ is subject to the provisions of the Municipal Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.

waterloowarrior
Jun 13, 2009, 10:16 PM
There was an ad today in the paper, I guess it must have just launched this weekend.. here are a few renders I found from http://susanlynmcgregor.blogspot.com/

http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/2avefina.jpg

http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/2ndave.jpg

http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/secaveFinalView1-5.jpg

hackunion
Jun 14, 2009, 2:00 AM
bleh... but I guess it fits in somewhat with the context.

hackunion
Jun 14, 2009, 2:03 AM
by the way, how are they New York inspired..? maybe they meant Schenectady, New York.

citizen j
Jun 14, 2009, 3:22 AM
Precisely what I was thinking. Not New York. Maybe an early 21st-century pastiche of early 20th-century Los Angeles with the little faux-Mediterranean party hats playing the role of architectural shorthand. It's not horrible; but it could address the street much, MUCH better (as some of you have already pointed out).

Mille Sabords
Jun 14, 2009, 5:44 PM
It's the type of minimum attention to aesthetics that rates a contented shrug and nothing more. It's definitely not one of the shitboxes we're known for, but neither is it a new definition of beautiful. :rolleyes:

Ryersonian
Jun 15, 2009, 12:48 PM
Precisely what I was thinking. Not New York. Maybe an early 21st-century pastiche of early 20th-century Los Angeles with the little faux-Mediterranean party hats playing the role of architectural shorthand. It's not horrible; but it could address the street much, MUCH better (as some of you have already pointed out).


"faux-Mediterranean party hats" one of the funniest lines i've seen on here...and there have been quite a few

rocketphish
Jun 16, 2009, 2:51 AM
Domicile's website for Second Avenue West is now up and running, with specs, prices and floorplans:
http://www.domicile.ca/saw

Here's the ground floor plan:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3332/3630551201_5f200105c6_o_d.gif

waterloowarrior
Jun 17, 2009, 3:43 AM
If I counted this up right, they have 23/71 units 'conditionally sold', or around 32% as of June 15

citizen j
Jun 17, 2009, 3:53 AM
"faux-Mediterranean party hats" one of the funniest lines i've seen on here...and there have been quite a few

Gracias. I do what I can.

ikerrin
Jun 17, 2009, 11:16 PM
http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/2avefina.jpg



Is it just me, or does this place look a bit like an Arizona retirement home. Its not ugly, but it just doesn't look like it fits. I sort of expect there to be tennis courts and a pool out back.

AuxTown
Jun 17, 2009, 11:23 PM
It's not gonna win any awards, but I think it's clean, classy, and it fits in well with The Glasgow just down the road: http://www.charlesfort.ca/glasgow/exteriors.php

Deez
Jun 18, 2009, 1:01 AM
Is it just me, or does this place look a bit like an Arizona retirement home. Its not ugly, but it just doesn't look like it fits. I sort of expect there to be tennis courts and a pool out back.

Haha...I was going to say the same thing, substituting Florida for Arizona. Maybe they'll throw some palm trees in for good measure.

umbria27
Jun 18, 2009, 6:12 PM
Ugh. I had hoped for something better. I think I've seen this design out on the wasteland of Montreal Rd past Blair.

Still, I think my greatest disappointment is that they are knocking down the brick doubles that linked the west side of Bronson to the Glebe. Is it too late to ask them to move just a few hundred metres North to obliterate those white brick abominations next door?

rakerman
Jul 12, 2009, 8:00 PM
The usual Citizen fluff article, but it's interesting to see prices per square foot for condos are continuing to stay high. Also $29,500 for parking is the highest I've seen so far.

Revitalizing Bronson Avenue (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Revitalizing+Bronson+Avenue/1781211/story.html)

kwoldtimer
Jul 12, 2009, 10:19 PM
The usual Citizen fluff article, but it's interesting to see prices per square foot for condos are continuing to stay high. Also $29,500 for parking is the highest I've seen so far.

Revitalizing Bronson Avenue (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Revitalizing+Bronson+Avenue/1781211/story.html)

Fluff indeed - it would be nice to see a more critical review of new developments rather than just an extended real estate advertisement. Re the appearance and especially the roofline - is it accidental or is it intended as a nod to Noffke? I see a hint of the Champagne Baths on King Edward, but then I have a vivid imagination ;)

waterloowarrior
May 19, 2010, 1:18 AM
According to their website, the development is 70% sold and construction is underway
http://www.domicile.ca/saw/pdf/saw_pricelist.pdf

citizen4829
May 20, 2010, 12:22 AM
:uhh: The usual Citizen fluff article, but it's interesting to see prices per square foot for condos are continuing to stay high. Also $29,500 for parking is the highest I've seen so far.


Revitalizing Bronson Avenue (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Revitalizing+Bronson+Avenue/1781211/story.html)

Charlesfort is charging $30,000 at The Continental in Westboro.

McC
May 20, 2010, 2:26 PM
About a month ago I saw a truck and crew from Habitat for Humanity's ReStore on site, I presume they were reclaiming materials from the old brick homes that are soon to be replaced by this development.

umbria27
Aug 11, 2010, 4:08 PM
The existing houses have been demolished now. Real excavations can't be far off.

Davis137
Aug 12, 2010, 11:26 PM
They've been cutting down the trees and removing the root systems and everything from the site...I'm sure they are going to hoard and then excavate by the end of August.

ThaLoveDocta
Nov 16, 2010, 1:39 PM
Thought I'd give y'all an update as i was out taking a few shots the last few weeks.
Looks like they're finished blasting, and have poured some subgrade structural work.

There are 8 units remaining.
1 x 691sqft 1 bed + 1 bath
2 x 801sqft 1 bed + 1 bath + den
2 x 801sqft 2 bed + 2 bath
3 x 961sqft 2 bed + 2 bath

Prices have jumped on the upper level units to as high as 420k w/parking.

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG00037-20101017-1417.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG00065-20101031-1724.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG00102-20101114-1044.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG00103-20101114-1044.jpg


First occupancy is currently slated for April. Total by end of May
Looks like they might be tight to make those dates...

ThaLoveDocta
Jan 14, 2011, 1:36 PM
Owners have received notice that occupancy has been pushed back to November/December 2011, conditional upon completion of the roof.

Very little has happened on site for over a month now.

5 units remaining.
92% Sold.

Photos to follow this weekend.

Davis137
Jan 15, 2011, 4:28 AM
Ummm, a lot has happened on that lot recently...it was only a freshly dug pit a month ago, and now they have a large portion of the foundations done, and some of the building is at grade, with portions of the 1st floor now visable from the street when driving by...

ThaLoveDocta
Jan 18, 2011, 3:36 PM
Ummm, a lot has happened on that lot recently...it was only a freshly dug pit a month ago, and now they have a large portion of the foundations done, and some of the building is at grade, with portions of the 1st floor now visible from the street when driving by...

Yes you are quite right, no question significant progress has been made. And temp. power has been installed this week.
However many of those foundations have been in place since mid December. and they are only in place on 70% of the footprint, the other 30% has not yet been fully excavated.

I did notice in a drive by yesterday that forms have been stripped, and the rough grade backfill in the front courtyard has begun.
No above grade work has begun, nor has the ground floor slab has been poured, about 40% of the exterior slab (parking roof to be outside the building footprint) has been poured and partially covered.

Also, an interesting observation, the ground floor slab appears to be elevated about 5 ' from grade at the south end putting first floor residents feet at about eye level of surrounding buildings ground floors. By my math, (3 x 9' ceilings, and 1 x 10' ceiling) the top two floors of SAW will view at or above the top of the neighbouring buildings to the south and east.


TLD

ps forgot to take photos... soon.

pps still not sure how December make sense... 4 storey wood framed building should go up very quickly once the subgrade work is complete.

Luker
Jan 18, 2011, 4:58 PM
Well its a rather big property, like stonework lofts on scott st, the time frame doesn't seem unreasonable for complete finishings. Even the multi-unit infills on Churchill for instance has bene quick at about a year to complete, or on Booth where it has been even longer, although it was woodframe and steel construction...

ThaLoveDocta
Jan 31, 2011, 5:03 PM
5 units remaining (+2 cond. sold) .... ranging from:
1bed,1bath+den (2nd flr) (~385k)
to 2bed, 2 bath, (2nd flr) (~400k)
to 2 bed 2 bath (4th flr) (~427k)
Parking incl.

Some new photos from January 23rd…
Ramp has been excavated, and most of the remaining GFS is formed. Bronson was shut down to 1 lane for the day to facilitate this excavation.
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110123-00018.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110122-00013.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110122-00010.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110122-00014.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110122-00012.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110122-00011.jpg
And January 30th
It seems they’ve moved their trailer underground, and framers are now on site. Ext. GFS at rear is poured nearly all the way to the back corner. Elevated interior slab poured about 80%.
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110130-00024.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110130-00025.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110130-00026.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110130-00027.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110130-00028.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110130-00029.jpg


The first above grade wall. Looks like the ground floor is almost at the same level as the next building’s second floor.
This is great news for those who purchased on the south facing top floors. They'll have a great view of the lake, glebe, ottawa south, and the new stadium.
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG00115-20110130-1624.jpg

citizen4829
Feb 9, 2011, 12:38 AM
Wondering if this thread shoud be changed to 'Under Construction"? U/C

ThaLoveDocta
Feb 10, 2011, 9:08 PM
Wondering if this thread shoud be changed to 'Under Construction"? U/C

That might seem prudent...

Latest updates February 10th:
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110210-00042.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110210-00043.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110210-00045.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110210-00047.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110210-00048.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110210-00050.jpg

sidman
Feb 10, 2011, 11:31 PM
I drove by yesterday and couldn't help but realize how close the first floor is to the road. It looked like it was about 8 feet from Bronson--hardly any setback.

ThaLoveDocta
Feb 11, 2011, 1:52 PM
I drove by yesterday and couldn't help but realize how close the first floor is to the road. It looked like it was about 8 feet from Bronson--hardly any setback.

I think it's more like 20ft but yes, it does seem very close.
I'll be curious to see how far the courtyard steps back - only the end units approach the road.
Would have been nice to see more greenspace between the sidewalk and the livingroom!

ThaLoveDocta
Feb 28, 2011, 2:14 PM
Latest updates February 26th:
Crappy day for photos...

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110210-00064.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110225-00065.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110225-00066.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110225-00069.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110225-00070.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110225-00071.jpg

Backyards elevated above adjacent parking/building ... or separated by a landscape wall - remains to be seen.
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110225-00074.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110225-00077.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110225-00080.jpg

citizen4829
Mar 1, 2011, 12:39 AM
I think it's more like 20ft but yes, it does seem very close.
I'll be curious to see how far the courtyard steps back - only the end units approach the road.
Would have been nice to see more greenspace between the sidewalk and the livingroom!

Condo owners on the first floor at street level will have quite a bit of traffic noise for sure....This is a wood frame building and Bronson is an extremely busy four lane with lots of bus and truck traffic. I pass by those end units every day and I could hit them with a Timmy's cup very easily. :yuck:

ThaLoveDocta
Apr 6, 2011, 6:18 PM
End of March
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/Ottawa-20110403-00112.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/Ottawa-20110403-00113.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/Ottawa-20110403-00114.jpg



1st week of April...
Structural steel on site and being erected. :cheers:
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/Ottawa-20110406-00118.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/Ottawa-20110406-00119.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/Ottawa-20110406-00120.jpg

citizen4829
Apr 8, 2011, 1:01 AM
Wondering if this thread should be changed to 'Under Construction"? U/C

On second thought----let's keep it in 'Proposed' until the first condo owners move in. :haha:

ThaLoveDocta
May 13, 2011, 12:25 PM
I don't have photos this morning, as my camera wouldn't take while running by last night, but here's the latest...


South side framed to 4th storey ceiling.
North side framed to 2nd storey ceiling/3rd floor.
Entrance steel in place, and framed around.
Elevator steel underway, significant work remains.
South face masonry veneer and stone work underway (thankfully not that ugly a$s yellow from the renderings, it's nearly the exact colour of the Charlesfort building up the street)


Next Steps:
Frame North side upper floors, frame roof, continue masonry and stonework, pour remaining exterior concrete, complete elevator structure, and begin glazing work.

ThaLoveDocta
May 31, 2011, 6:44 PM
A quick update as i ran by yesterday...
Running by at rush hour makes it tough not to have cars in the shots.

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/Ottawa-20110530-00173.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/Ottawa-20110530-00174.jpg
http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/Ottawa-20110530-00175.jpg

South, and South West faces - masonry nearly complete to top of 4th floor. Masonry at South end, (East and West faces) to follow.
Steel work appears complete at front canopy
Aluminum window mullions 30% complete. Expect glazing to follow in a few weeks.
Roof/Parapet framed at south end, plywood decking underway.



Note: Purchasers are now finalizing their change items for all framing, mechanical and electrical issues.

OttawaGuy
Jun 6, 2011, 4:26 PM
I have no sense of progress - are things moving along in a timely manner from what you see?

ThaLoveDocta
Jun 6, 2011, 5:29 PM
I have no sense of progress - are things moving along in a timely manner from what you see?

Still hinges heavily on when they get weathertight.
Need roof completion, and glass panes pretty soon.

I'd say they're close to pace for December, but it's still very early, and there're a lot of trades who still have to get started...

ThaLoveDocta
Jul 8, 2011, 4:14 PM
Sorry about the shitty photos again... never seem to have anything but a BB with me...

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110703-00214.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110703-00215.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110703-00216.jpg

http://www.thalovedocta.com/images/images/Second%20Ave%20West/IMG-20110703-00218.jpg

South & S.West Elevation - Masonry complete.
East Elevation - Masonry 40% complete
Aluminum Mullions - Complete.
Glazing underway.
Roofing underway.


I'm going for a pre-boarding inspection in 2 weeks.

OttawaGuy
Jul 11, 2011, 9:04 PM
Great progress, looking good! Thanks for the pics

OttawaGuy
Jul 11, 2011, 9:14 PM
By the way, what is a "pre-boarding inspection"?

Jamaican-Phoenix
Jul 11, 2011, 11:01 PM
I think this thread title should be changed from "Proposed" to "U/C".

AuxTown
Jul 12, 2011, 5:48 AM
By the way, what is a "pre-boarding inspection"?

I thought that is what they do in airports?
I think he means frame walk possibly.

Davis137
Jul 13, 2011, 2:01 AM
Pity, it blocks the view of that older little apartment building behind it now...

ThaLoveDocta
Jul 13, 2011, 12:47 PM
By the way, what is a "pre-boarding inspection"?

I thought that is what they do in airports?
I think he means frame walk possibly.

Yes that's what i'm talking about.
Pre-Boarding... before the wall board is hung.
How many others are doing this?

Pity, it blocks the view of that older little apartment building behind it now...

You mean the kings daughters and sons apartments? A shame that ugly little building next door hasn't been razed yet. It's an eyesore.

AuxTown
Jul 13, 2011, 3:24 PM
Yes that's what i'm talking about.
Pre-Boarding... before the wall board is hung.
How many others are doing this?


Anyone buying a single family home, town home, or wood frame condo should be offered a frame walk. If not, they should demand one.

OttawaGuy
Jul 23, 2011, 4:27 PM
Domicile pushed occupany dates yet again...middle of February now...what a bloody joke

reidjr
Jul 23, 2011, 4:43 PM
Domicile pushed occupany dates yet again...middle of February now...what a bloody joke

When was the occupany dates before it got pushed back?

OttawaGuy
Jul 23, 2011, 10:37 PM
"Originally" the occupancy date was to be March 2011 (we all knew that wasnt gonna happen). After that, it was December 2011...now February 2012. Not impressed at all

Mille Sabords
Jul 26, 2011, 1:50 AM
Moderator - this one should be marked "under construction".

ThaLoveDocta
Jul 26, 2011, 3:26 PM
"Originally" the occupancy date was to be March 2011 (we all knew that wasnt gonna happen). After that, it was December 2011...now February 2012. Not impressed at all

I saw this just this weekend as well.

Originally May for the top floors, then late December (moving at Christmas - convenient:koko:) and now late February for the top floors.

I must admit this last one surprised me a little, the envelope was coming along well, interior rough in nearing completion and framing walkthroughs underway. I'm not sure 2.5 nearly 3 months of additional time is warrented.

I will be drafting a formal response to this one.

OttawaGuy
Jul 27, 2011, 12:18 AM
I plan to email David Chick, as this has gotten excessive - I'm sure there are many irritated future occupants who are dramatically put out by this, not only in terms of a place to stay, but also in terms of issues with mortgage rates that were only being held up until one of two previous occupancy dates.

This cannot be helping their brand

ThaLoveDocta
Dec 7, 2011, 8:55 PM
Any of the new occupants have any input on how things went with their move in?

I believe the 1st and 2nd floors were moving in this week and next.

OttawaGuy
Dec 9, 2011, 1:09 AM
I have a friend moving into a first-floor unit and she advised me that her move-in date was Feb 1st - I'm Feb 13th for the 3rd floor

Davis137
Dec 9, 2011, 2:00 PM
Perhaps there were some unforseen design flaws or something that needs amending?

OttawaGuy
Dec 9, 2011, 4:40 PM
Apparently the reason the dates were pushed so far ahead way back when was due to either roof or garage issues (I dont recall which) that put them behind schedule by a few months. By the sounds of it, everyone will be moved by the end of February.

ThaLoveDocta
Dec 9, 2011, 4:48 PM
Apparently the reason the dates were pushed so far ahead way back when was due to either roof or garage issues (I dont recall which) that put them behind schedule by a few months. By the sounds of it, everyone will be moved by the end of February.

4th floor is the 22nd of Feb - or at least some of them are.
Going to be a busy month in the building.

Anyone know what if any units are left for sale?

OttawaGuy
Dec 12, 2011, 3:37 PM
Website says "3" still available, but that was an older update so who knows now. Very interested to see how many units go up for sale after occupancy and what the premium over purchase price people will be asking - thoughts?

OttawaGuy
Jan 15, 2012, 9:55 PM
Please, don't everyone chime in with your opinions all at once :D

Davis137
Jan 16, 2012, 3:31 PM
It's starting to look half decent on the exterior now...

rendereduseful
Jan 16, 2012, 9:36 PM
Just heard Domicile talking on CBC Radio about the sculpture at the entrance of the building. Interesting history. I agree with Davis137... building looks pretty good from the outside. Wonder what the units will look like inside.

nredding
Mar 15, 2012, 1:16 PM
A lot of units in this building are showing up on kijjiji and other sites for rent. Considering the relatively small number of units, I guess a lot were bought by investors rather than by people who want to live there.

ThaLoveDocta
Apr 9, 2012, 12:10 PM
A lot of units in this building are showing up on kijjiji and other sites for rent. Considering the relatively small number of units, I guess a lot were bought by investors rather than by people who want to live there.

Condo corp turned over to board of directors late march.
Approx 6-7 rental units, the remainder appear owner occupied for the time being.

waterloowarrior
Nov 28, 2012, 11:38 PM
May 2012 streetview http://goo.gl/maps/SZD8Y