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LMich
Oct 18, 2003, 3:17 AM
Well, I've drawn another angle of my hometowns tallest building. It's a 45/45 angle showing the other towers also. I drew it on my laptop and when I submitted it here on the PC it looks a little faded, but it still came out decent. I am going to add the antenna later, but I really don't have any idea how tall it is so...

New http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3523&drawingID=18324 oldhttp://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3523&drawingID=12084

FRED
Oct 18, 2003, 5:09 AM
both are really nice !!!

Buck
Oct 19, 2003, 12:02 AM
Very good, L!!

LMich
Oct 19, 2003, 12:25 AM
Could someone put this in the primary? I didn't want it to replace my older version, but I do want it in the primary.

Buck
Oct 19, 2003, 7:43 PM
I put it in primary for you, but why didn't you? You are an editor...

LMich
Oct 19, 2003, 7:47 PM
Apparently, my editing powers only allow me to approve buildings I make. Maybe, I should be promoted. :)

dnast
Oct 20, 2003, 5:20 AM
Looks great!

John Hinds
Oct 20, 2003, 8:28 AM
It shouldn't be in the primary because it shows less than 1/3rd of the tower and the smaller towers already have their own other diagrams.

Buck
Oct 20, 2003, 1:07 PM
Good point.

LMich
Oct 20, 2003, 4:25 PM
I see your point, Jonny. I personally thought that the diagram needed a little change, and it never hurts to let a new diagram have the spot for awhile considering how long the other drawing held it.

Plus, if that's the case than I shouldn't have even drawn the other towers on the other one, since after all, they are all individual and seperate buildings. It's one of those things Dylan is still trying to work out.

John Hinds
Oct 20, 2003, 7:07 PM
Another problem is that even though its a nice drawing people who dont know Detroits skyline that well might think there are only only 3 towers in the complex, with the middle one having a round top.

You forgot the antenna in the new drawing.

Anyway, isn't the buildings glass black/brown like the smaller towers?
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/637/319rencenter.jpg

Kirk
Oct 20, 2003, 7:16 PM
I always believed that in a case like this, the smaller towers shouldn't be in the same diagram...until we have a proper "project" system to support it. Those are really quite separate buildings.

LMich
Oct 20, 2003, 8:05 PM
Well, then someone can change the diagram back to my very first drawing of the main tower which doesn't include all of the others.

Jonny, due to reflection off the river and the sky the tower appears to have a different looking facade during certain times of the day. I choose to color my glass blue because I like how it looks during that time of the day. The same could be said for the westin Peachtree in Atlanta. People just choose to color it blue since that's what it reflects during most of the day.

BTW, the glass of the smaller towers is actually different and darker than that of the actual hotel tower. Though, not as much as I've shown.

John Hinds
Oct 20, 2003, 9:37 PM
Ok.
I never noticed how blue the river is in that photo.
It looks like a boat full of blue ink has crashed. :D

LMich
Oct 20, 2003, 10:48 PM
Yeah, the river is a very clear river. Here are some more shots showing the RenCen as I've drawn it:

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files_transfer/6/2002/03/143592.jpg

http://www.skyscrapers.com/files_transfer/6/2002/01/139474.jpg

BTW, as I had said earlier, I plan to put more detail into my new drawing, but I thought for the time being that this new one would suffice and be a change for the diagram. The reason I held off on the antenna is because we don't know the height of it, and I didn't want to have to estimate it again, but it looks like I might have to.

Sulley
Oct 21, 2003, 12:45 AM
Why do some of the windows on the Marriott not have any tint on them? Weeeird. :uhh:

Another reason why the Westin Peachtree owns the RenCen. :yes: :D j/k ;)

LMich
Oct 22, 2003, 12:20 AM
How do you guys like this one? It was done by Mike S. and currently resides in the primary spot.
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3523&drawingID=18454

Here's my biased (I admit it) opinion on it. I like the glass effect and the shadows, but the clouds appear to be a little overdone, and the color of it is off a bit. I've never seen in look like that. Also, a base needs to be added. I've seen too many people just put a ring around the base of this building and call it a day when the full base needs to be exposed. I'm sorry to be so critical, and I'll try and improve my drawing to make it look even better and more realitic than it currently does.

Sulley
Oct 22, 2003, 12:32 AM
I've never seen super-swirly clouds like that before, either.

Born Pure Philly
Oct 22, 2003, 12:50 AM
I don't think mikes does the building justice. It's too dark and the clouds aren't supposed to be like that.

Sulley
Oct 22, 2003, 12:54 AM
Is it just me, or is everyone trying to draw like SPE now?

Not that his drawings are bad (they aren't) but we all need our own individuality!

James Raymond
Oct 22, 2003, 12:55 AM
I can tell you one thing. None of the drawings have an antenna that's the correct height. Look at the pick posted by Jonny 5. Compared to the rest of the building, the antennas (?) in all the drawings are too tall (if they have an antenna on them, of course).

Mike S.
Oct 23, 2003, 12:57 AM
About the clouds: Since the building is a cylinder, 1 cloud would not stretch across the whole surface of the facade unless it is a really humungous cloud. They are supposed to look more vertical than horizontal.
I was not able to get any good pictures of the base of this building. If anybody would like to supply me with some, I would be happy to add a proper base.
Also, SPE does not 'own' dark shadows and very prominent clouds! Just because our styles of drawing are similar does not mean I am trying to draw like him.

LMich
Oct 23, 2003, 1:14 AM
Yeah, I'll defend Mike here, he was the originator of that style before SPE even came here. I'll try and see what I can do about some base photos for you. I still think that everything just looks a little out of place and messy, though. Not trying to be mean, but this tower is much more defined, clean cut, and crisp.

Mike S.
Oct 23, 2003, 1:20 AM
Thank you! If you do find me some photos of the base, I will try to fix the other things you mentioned as well, like the messiness and the clouds.

Mike S.
Oct 23, 2003, 1:32 AM
Thank you! If you do find me some photos of the base, I will try to fix the other things you mentioned as well, like the messiness and the clouds.

Naptown
Oct 24, 2003, 9:16 PM
I like the new one, but for some reason, this one: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=3523&drawingID=12084 looks more realistic. :tup: