[AUM]

I am not a huge Ric McIver fan but I will give him credit for supporting Race City Motorsports.

I urge you all to contact your alderman and get them to support Race City and avoid its closure. For one it will keep racing off the streets. Secondly for anyone who has been there for any events will know it supports the SE communities and also supports people from various age groups.

Albeit it is not the best facility in the world, but it serves its purpose and it provides a sanctionned place for people to race that keeps it off city streets.

Perhaps instead of expanding Shepards Landfill the city go look into better waste management like, Edmonton, Halifax, Vancouver for examples.

Cheers!

[Wooster]

Agreed, I'd like to see Race City kept open.

[Vascilli]

....No no no no no. I always wanted to take up the Volvo I'd eventually have (S60/V70 R, 350hp+) and have some fun. Where would I go if it's closed?

[AUM]

Just got an e-mail back from John Mar that he has supported race city.

+1 for Mar.

[Calgarian]

I agree that Race City should stay open if we aren't going to get a new facility. It's in a good location, far from homes (though you can still hear it), and it keep most street racing off the street.

[Bigtime]

Although I don't care about it I can see how it makes sense to keep it open.

Wow, Mar actually decided to make a decision on something. I'm shocked!

[AUM]

I agree that Race City should stay open if we aren't going to get a new facility. It's in a good location, far from homes (though you can still hear it), and it keep most street racing off the street.

^^^
That would be my dream project to work on a new race facility.....oh to have dreams....lol.

[korzym]

I am not a huge Ric McIver fan but I will give him credit for supporting Race City Motorsports.

I urge you all to contact your alderman and get them to support Race City and avoid its closure. For one it will keep racing off the streets. Secondly for anyone who has been there for any events will know it supports the SE communities and also supports people from various age groups.

Albeit it is not the best facility in the world, but it serves its purpose and it provides a sanctionned place for people to race that keeps it off city streets.

Perhaps instead of expanding Shepards Landfill the city go look into better waste management like, Edmonton, Halifax, Vancouver for examples.

Cheers!

Oh so this is what people mean when they say "It's ok to have the **** taxed out of us, its going to help our fellow citizens"

I CALL B.S.

Everyone gets plundered so a small, absolutely minute portion of the population gets a benefit: SPECIAL INTERESTS. If you want to make unsafe decisions on public roads, be ready to face the consequences like a man: be it jail, lawsuits, or death. We don't need to spend millions of dollars for a bunch of babies that can't use common sense on our roads.

Your not exactly coming to the public asking for money to help starving children. Your "cause" is bogus. Spend money for a few deranged lunatics to drive safe. Wow - sounds like a terrorist's tactic, do this and this or else

[AUM]

Oh so this is what people mean when they say "It's ok to have the **** taxed out of us, its going to help our fellow citizens"

I CALL B.S.

Everyone gets plundered so a small, absolutely minute portion of the population gets a benefit: SPECIAL INTERESTS. If you want to make unsafe decisions on public roads, be ready to face the consequences like a man: be it jail, lawsuits, or death. We don't need to spend millions of dollars for a bunch of babies that can't use common sense on our roads.

How is it BS to provide a place for enthusiasts to enjoy their sport. It is no different than providing parks for kids to play so they are not on the street or bike paths so riders have a palce to enjoy.

A lot of the people that work there do so as volunteers and are not paid for their time. As well Mackenzie pays rent for the land, not taxpayers, so maybe get your facts together before you go off on people. I'm not going to comment any further as it is obvious you are just ranting without having any factual support to your argument.

[Calgarian]

Oh so this is what people mean when they say "It's ok to have the **** taxed out of us, its going to help our fellow citizens"

I CALL B.S.

Everyone gets plundered so a small, absolutely minute portion of the population gets a benefit: SPECIAL INTERESTS. If you want to make unsafe decisions on public roads, be ready to face the consequences like a man: be it jail, lawsuits, or death. We don't need to spend millions of dollars for a bunch of babies that can't use common sense on our roads.

Your not exactly coming to the public asking for money to help starving children. Your "cause" is bogus. Spend money for a few deranged lunatics to drive safe. Wow - sounds like a terrorist's tactic, do this and this or else

There are a lot of events that are held there that aren't just for street racers you know.

[Calgarian]

^^^
That would be my dream project to work on a new race facility.....oh to have dreams....lol.

Calgary needs a Nurburgring!

Seriously though, that would be a sweet project to work on, maybe if we did build a new facility we can steal the Indy from Edmonton.

[korzym]

How is it BS to provide a place for enthusiasts to enjoy their sport. It is no different than providing parks for kids to play so they are not on the street or bike paths so riders have a palce to enjoy.
Provide it for yourself, if the market can't support it, hit the road and drive to a track thats respectable, you are a driving enthusiast after all, no?

A lot of the people that work there do so as volunteers and are not paid for their time. As well Mackenzie pays rent for the land, not taxpayers, so maybe get your facts together before you go off on people. I'm not going to comment any further as it is obvious you are just ranting without having any factual support to your argument.

Wow direct attack at me, that works all the time right?

And pound for pound, if your so smart as you say you are, the money that gets taken from citizens in the form of tax, is better off in the hands of citizens. Money spent on this race track is discretionary, and therefore if a citizen were able to retain that amount of tax for this, it would be spent on goods/services that pertain to the betterment of any particular citizen. That means business' that meet their needs, and yes surprise they employ people as well, will see that money.

Your a special interest, like I said fuel up your car, get your map out, and drive out to a decent track if your so dedicated. You might be able to take a greyhound bus out of town, I hear their leaving as well.

And yes, thanks for raising this issue on the forum, my alderman has received an angry email about this to not support it.

[AUM]

Provide it for yourself, if the market can't support it, hit the road and drive to a track thats respectable, you are a driving enthusiast after all, no?



Wow direct attack at me, that works all the time right?

And pound for pound, if your so smart as you say you are, the money that gets taken from citizens in the form of tax, is better off in the hands of citizens. Money spent on this race track is discretionary, and therefore if a citizen were able to retain that amount of tax for this, it would be spent on goods/services that pertain to the betterment of any particular citizen. That means business' that meet their needs, and yes surprise they employ people as well, will see that money.

Your a special interest, like I said fuel up your car, get your map out, and drive out to a decent track if your so dedicated. You might be able to take a greyhound bus out of town, I hear their leaving as well.

And yes, thanks for raising this issue on the forum, my alderman has received an angry email about this to not support it.

Not a direct attack, but as it was mentionned and if you had of looked up Race City before attacking my comments you would see that there is other events held at this facility.

Again no one is asking for money for this facility. They are voting to extend the lease, which was originally allowed till 2025 but the city needs room to expand the landfill. Therefore the vote is to allow the OWNER - Art Mackenzie to have his lease extended to 2015.

I never spoke of being smarter than anyone in my comments. I merely stated that you should do some research before attacking others. Like I said this is not paid for by tax payers, the owner pays rent on the land, the employees are volunteers for the most part. All enthusiasts pay for use of the track. The city does not financially support this nor does your tax money. That is why I got frustrated with your comments, because you attacked my comments, without doing some research on the facility and how it is funded.

My comments on buidling a new facility is based on the notion of private development...no where in my comments did I presume or expect the city to fund such a facility. They are generally for the most part private developemts.

[AUM]

Calgary needs a Nurburgring!

Seriously though, that would be a sweet project to work on, maybe if we did build a new facility we can steal the Indy from Edmonton.

Totally, I have been to the track when the car makers are doing test of new models. Neat to see all the new cars before they are out. For the amount of exotics in this city it would definitely get use!

[Coldrsx]

....No no no no no. I always wanted to take up the Volvo I'd eventually have (S60/V70 R, 350hp+) and have some fun. Where would I go if it's closed?

Here... i run on it every 3 weeks.

http://www.stratotech.ca/

However with that said losing Racecity would be a huge loss to western canadian motorsports. I had the pleasure of doing a lapping day 3 weeks ago.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/coldrsx/DSC_0674-1.jpg

http://api.photoshop.com/home_6cf3dda318be40229eabf06873efcde5/adobe-px-assets/b4fd467d4e5c427eb63ff5e29eec76d5

[AUM]

^^^Nice ColdRSX!!!!

[Bigtime]

I wonder if my accountant has taken his GTR to Race City yet? He would take his Subaru there over the last few years.

[wmp.dll]

Today was the vote for Race City and we won. 8-7 in favor of keeping Race City open. :banana:

[AUM]

^^^I just saw that!!!! That rocks. I sent Alderman Mar a e-mail saying thanks for his support!!!! Too bad Bronco!

[earl69]

Great news!! McIver will get my vote when he runs for mayor and Brian Pinhead Pincott will never get another vote from me!

Bronconnier looked extremely angry after the end of that!

[Calgarian]

Now they just need to re-pave the damn track, I hear there are potholes everywhere. Apparently Bronco is pissed that it is going to stay.

[CorporateWhore]

What's the reason for wanting it shut down?

[Calgarian]

They were planning on expanding the landfill to where Race City is.

[Vascilli]

They can build a new landfill here in the Southwest. I'll work there.

[Bigtime]

McIver playing hypocrite yet again:

We do things every day that have a cost and why do we do them? We do them because it makes our city better.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Stang]

Does anyone know when the land is supposedly required for the landfill?

If it isn't needed immediately or in the next few years, why not allow Race City to lease it until it is needed? Will it not generate more revenue for taxpayers than a vacant lot?

I do, however, think that Race City should be considering a permanent location. The nature of leases is that they do end at some point, so they may as well be prepared by preemptively starting to think about a new location.

[frinkprof]

McIver playing hypocrite yet again:



:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:I saw that too. Pretty rich coming from the guy who is supposedly watching the budget like a hawk.

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Good news for race city altogether, and I can get behind that even though I'm not an automotive enthusiast.

What pisses me off though is the talk of people streetracing more and putting people at risk if it were to close down. By that same logic, it's a good thing there aren't any shooting ranges, archery clubs or kickboxing gyms that might close down, else these people start carrying out their hobbies in public.

[Vascilli]

I saw that too. Pretty rich coming from the guy who is supposedly watching the budget like a hawk.

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Good news for race city altogether, and I can get behind that even though I'm not an automotive enthusiast.

What pisses me off though is the talk of people streetracing more and putting people at risk if it were to close down. By that same logic, it's a good thing there aren't any shooting ranges, archery clubs or kickboxing gyms that might close down, else these people start carrying out their hobbies in public.

Yeah, most people that street race could care less if it closes or not.

I wouldn't mind more shooting ranges though, it takes me forever to get to mine.

[Calgarian]

I call bullshit on that guys, I know quite a few people who use Race City on a regular basis, and if it weren't for the track some of them would likely race on city streets.

[frinkprof]

^Until they received one or both of the following:

1. Fine

2. Loss of demerits/license

[Calgarian]

^Until they received one or both of the following:

1. Fine

2. Loss of demerits/license

True, but that's beside the point.

Cars and tuning are a big part of our culture (how else could The Fast and the Furious be so successful), and we should provide a safe venue for those who wish to indulge in it, that's all I'm saying.

[frinkprof]

True, but that's beside the point.
I agree. Tell that to the Race City proponents (yes I know, not all were saying this) who are/were using the "more racing on city streets" line as an argument.

(how else could The Fast and the Furious be so successful)Couldn't have been the acting.

we should provide a safe venue for those who wish to indulge in it, that's all I'm saying.No argument there, which is why I support the decision (as I said earlier).

[wmp.dll]

We do need to find a permanent location for Race City. Finding that much spare land is a problem though.

[mersar]

Land isn't the only problem though. Just the money to build a new track and the related venues is easily into the 8 figures. I believe they had figured somewhere north of $25M

[Calgarian]

I agree. Tell that to the Race City proponents (yes I know, not all were saying this) who are/were using the "more racing on city streets" line as an argument.
I agree with those people, closing the track would result in more street racing. The law doesn't mean much to some people and is only a deterrent when they get caught, and even then...

Couldn't have been the acting.
or the storyline. Hot girls and nice cars are good enough for a 4 film franchise.

Wasn't there plans for a race track at Mallzac?

[srperrycgy]

:previous: Yeah, but for horses and not cars.

[AUM]

I call bullshit on that guys, I know quite a few people who use Race City on a regular basis, and if it weren't for the track some of them would likely race on city streets.

I agree with Calgarian. The track is in use pretty much 7 days a week throughout the spring summer months. Whether it be for carclubs, race events, they have even done new car tests there with car magazines. Not to mention concerts like Vans Warped Tour.

Having a safe and sanctionned place for automotive enthusiasts to push the cars to the limits, in my opinion, is a great thing. Even with race city there are still those who will choose the streets. But without it I would almost guarantee it would be far worse.

Here is a great article from SE Calgary News:

http://www.secalgarynews.com/featured/video-fight-over-race-city-heats-up-in-anticipation-of-mondays-council-vote-to-save-race-track/

I do hope that a new facility will be developed when the lease does finally expire. There is and will always be a need for a facility like these as long as people love their cars.