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le calmar
09-16-2009, 07:04 PM
Since I couldn't find a thread about this, I decided to start a new one. So this is about transit in your city, the projects, the present, the future, updates...

In Montreal there are 4 major projects on the way.




1. The métro 20 km expansion. An announcement was made today by the government.


MONTREAL – The Quebec government will announce a major extension of the métro network Wednesday through Laval, Longueuil and parts of Montreal.

Transport Minister Julie Boulet has scheduled a press conference for Wednesday afternoon at the Berri-UQÀM métro station, and Montreal Mayor Gérald Tremblay, Laval Mayor Gilles Vaillancourt and Longueuil Mayor Claude Gladu will also be there.

A media invitation said there will be an important announcement about the métro. While the press attachés for Boulet and the mayors would not say more, a source told The Gazette that Boulet has accepted an agreement by the three mayors to extend the métro by about 20 kilometres.

“The métro will be extended,” said the source, who spoke on condition that no name be used. “I just don’t know the details about what has been accepted and what the time frame is.”

Last winter, Boulet asked the Montreal region’s three principal mayors to identify a common goal to improve transport infrastructure. Several weeks ago, the mayors came to an agreement about how the métro should be extended, and presented it to her.

According to the plan, the Blue Line would be prolonged east by five kilometres with stations in St. Léonard and Anjou. The Orange Line would stretch by six kilometres from Côte Vertu to the Bois Franc area at the north end of the island, and then to Laval, where additional stations would be added before a loop is completed with the Montmorency terminal. The métro’s Yellow Line would extend eight kilometres to five new stations in Longueuil, including the Pierre Boucher Hospital and Cégep Édouard Montpetit.

The agreement calls for the métro extension to be completed over a period of 10 to 15 years.

The provincial government will pay the cost of new tunnels and new métro cars, estimated at more than $3 billion. Municipalities would be on the hook for the transit systems’ operating costs and some of the cost overruns.

On hearing the news about a métro extension, Jean Léveillé, president of the transit advocacy group Transport 2000 Quebec, said he was overjoyed.

“Bravo Madame la ministre,” Leveillé said. “We’re always in favour of extending the métro. It means more service and will result in more users of public transit.”

At Wednesday’s news conference, Boulet is expected to outline a time frame of when the project will be completed.

Construction of the Blue Line extension could begin as early as next spring, however.

André Lavallée, the vice-chairman of Montreal’s executive committee, recently told La Presse that the Quebec government would like to get the extension project under way as quickly as possible.

“This project has already been well researched and it could be launched very quickly,” Lavallée said.

“It’s exactly the kind of project the Quebec government is looking for, because it could help to restart the economy.”

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...703/story.html


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6876/image6l.png
amt.qc.ca

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/www.montrealgazette.com/news/métro+network+extended/1997703/1997702.bin?size=620x400










2. The East commute to Mascouche -under construction-


http://www.amt.qc.ca/grandsprojets/traindelest/images/Description_juin08.jpg
amt.qc.ca









3. The Montreal tramway


I couldn't find an english version... The plain orange lines show what would be the first phase, the dotted lines show the expansions in the future. We hear a lot about this project right now.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1884/image5ei.png
http://ville.montreal.qc.ca/









4. The LRT to airport


We should see it in 4 or 5 years... A brand-new train station is already built in the airport new terminal.

We don't know which one of these 2 options will be chosen yet
http://img.src.ca/2009/08/17/352x198/090817tracee-navette-ferroviaire_6.jpg
src.ca






The other projects:




The LRT to Brossard via Champlain Bridge (we probably won't see it in a near future)



Tramway in Longueuil



Trolleybus lines in Laval

http://media.metronews.ca/images/64/70/39b6be1c4aeba213cce8f25effee.jpeg


http://media.metronews.topscms.com/images/f3/87/5a3daf844d1b8879ca2616619fc4.jpeg
metronews.ca

MolsonExport
09-16-2009, 07:26 PM
Wow, if all those plans come to fruition (of course, many won't). But it is very exciting nevertheless. I remember plans for the white line metro (under Pie IX) in the 1980s, and extension of the yellow line northwest from Berri to (new station on St. Laurent) to terminate at McGill. Also, the blue line was to go all the way to the Galleries d'Anjou, and quite possibly, into NDG in the West. Then, there was to be a monorail along the ice bridge, adjacent to the Champlain bridge.

feepa
09-16-2009, 07:48 PM
From Lightrail at connect2edmonton.ca

http://members.shaw.ca/david.marlor/edm02.jpg

http://connect2edmonton.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=14378

Bedford_DJ
09-16-2009, 08:02 PM
Metro Transit has a lot of plans but no action plan.

But it breaks down like this;

- New Fast Ferry is proposed to connect the Water St Terminal with Bedford with an approximate 20 minute ride.

- New Community Transit in Sambro was just started last month. It connects the Sambro Loop to South Centre Mall.

- MetroX Phase I just commenced service from Abemarle St to Upper Tantallon. Its a commuter-focused express bus using the suburban freeways to get in town.

- Expansions of the existing MetroLink service is expected to be in Clayton Park and Spryfield by 2012.

- Next Summer the MetroX service is expected to start service to the Airport. :)

frinkprof
09-17-2009, 01:41 AM
Calgary

Existing + Funded Projects (Completion 2014):

http://members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary/CTMap9-20-06-2009.jpg

Existing + Funded Projects + Unfunded Projects (15-20 years):

http://members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary/CTMapFuture-12052009-2.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary/Future%20Downtown%20LRT-05-13-2009.jpg

All images courtesy Steve Perry at http://members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary

edmontonenthusiast
09-17-2009, 01:58 AM
Feepa nailed most of it. The new lines after the NAIT LRT line though will be using low floor tracks n' trains instead of high floor.

Also we have new LRT cars, here are pictures:

OLD:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/148497199_0d238eb967.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/one42chrisp/148497199/sizes/m/in/set-72057594111804268/

NEW:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2453/3550136982_ac07166096.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/one42chrisp/3550136982/sizes/m/in/set-72057594111804268/

mersar
09-17-2009, 04:47 AM
And Calgary will be getting more LRV's (37 ordered, possibly may be increased to 60) by 2012 that are the same style as the ones Edmonton recently bought, as well as they are starting to retrofit the existing SD160's with AC units and the plan is to also add a plastic skirt around the top to hide the ugly mechanical boxes on top

srperrycgy
09-17-2009, 07:05 AM
Thanks for posting my maps, mersar. :tup:

mersar
09-17-2009, 08:02 AM
I didn't :P Frink did

srperrycgy
09-17-2009, 11:08 AM
Crap.....I can't read. :ahhh:

Those Montreal proposals sure look interesting....I read the CBC story about it and the commenters were complaining about the West Island getting left behind.

The Chemist
09-17-2009, 01:44 PM
I know this is the Canada section, but maybe some of you may be interesed in the fastest growing Metro system in the world - the Shanghai Metro. :) Here's a map that will be current as of May 2010.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2426/3929029054_49e62bc95d_b.jpg

The overall length of the system is currently 246km on 8 lines, and will reach 408km on 12 lines by May 2010. It will reach over 500km on 14(?) lines by 2012, and over 900km on at least 20 lines by 2020. Extensions and new lines under construction to be opened by next year:

Line 7 (new line) - Qihua Road - Huamu Road, 35km, opening by end of December; (extension), Qihua Road-Meilanhu, 10km, opening by May 2010.
Line 9 (extension) - Yishan Road - Central Yanggao Road, 14.5km, opening by end of December
Line 10 (new line) - New Jiangwan City - Hongqiao Railway Station, 36km, opening by May 1st, 2010.
Line 11 (new line) - Branched line, total 45km, opening by end of December
Line 2 (2 extensions) - extension west from Songhong Road to Xujing, including Hongqiao Airport, 8km; extension east from Zhangjiang Hi-Tech park to Pudong Airport, 30km, both open by May 2010.

Current daily ridership is over 3.5 million, with over 1 million passengers on both lines 1 and 2. I'd expect ridership will reach at least 4.5 million per day when the new lines open by next year. The most amazing thing I can think of about the Shanghai Metro is the fact that prior to 1994, Shanghai had NO metro at all, so all of this has been built in little over 15 years! Just mind boggling.

le calmar
09-17-2009, 03:26 PM
^ The density in West Island is insufficient, expanding the metro there would just be unecessary. West Islanders complain a lot about that, but the fact is the East is much denser.

Rico Rommheim
09-17-2009, 03:55 PM
^ The density in West Island is insufficient, expanding the metro there would just be unecessary. West Islanders complain a lot about that, but the fact is the East is much denser.

True. In any event, most west islanders use their cars, an inefficient and sporadic metro wouldnt help.


BUT


I still think that instead of an LRT to the airport we ought to build a metro out there. A metro line out to dorval wouldnt just make things faster but tourists wouldnt have to be subjected to seeing the expansive ugliness that is the ride out to the airport. Plus a metro line out there would potentially increase density.


A tram in Longueuil and Laval? Sure, whatever.

Acajack
09-17-2009, 04:17 PM
True. In any event, most west islanders use their cars, an inefficient and sporadic metro wouldnt help.




Yes, the West Island is sprawling suburbia - difficult to service by métro.

But one should not confuse the West Island with the west end of Montreal, much of which is quite dense and does not have either métro nor commuter train service. A large urban area west of the Angrignon métro station on the green line is unserved, as is virtually the entire area west of the Autoroute Décarie (15), which is also quite dense.

Rico Rommheim
09-17-2009, 04:56 PM
But one should not confuse the West Island with the west end of Montreal, much of which is quite dense and does not have either métro nor commuter train service. A large urban area west of the Angrignon métro station on the green line is unserved, as is virtually the entire area west of the Autoroute Décarie (15), which is also quite dense.

which is exactly why I am in favour of metro expansion out to dorval. Its stupid that the blue lines ends where it does. Its impractical and quite arbitrary, if not vindictive.


THAT being said, the announcement is great news and I'm not complaining in any way!

miketoronto
09-17-2009, 10:26 PM
The West Island is is for the most part just like parts of suburban Toronto that have subway service.

I am sure it would get well used if it is built, and the only reason transit ridership is low out there, is because the transit service is not that good. If people have to wait an hour for a bus it is no wonder they are driving.

le calmar
09-17-2009, 11:49 PM
^ The service to West Island is not that bad... The 211 bus from Dorval to downtown runs every 10 mins, up to every 4-5 minutes in rush hours... Sure it sucks in rush hours though.

The train to Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue has the highest frequency in all Montreal with service every 20 min in rush hours, service all day long with (almost) one train per hour in both directions, service on week-ends all day long... Sure it sucks compared to european cities IMO, but the fact is the service in West Island is not THAT catastrophic. I agree the metro should be extended to the airport, or at least to Côte-Saint-Luc or Montreal-West where the density would justify it. The problem is the huge industrial zone between these neighbourhoods and the airport. There would be a 6 km-long stretch with no stops in the metro (at the cost of 900M$), but I guess it's not the end of the world if you get a connection to the airport. By the way, the yellow line in Longueuil will probably connect to St-Hubert airport.

miketoronto
09-18-2009, 12:27 AM
The majority of bus routes in the West Island only operate at 30-60 minute intravals, and many end very early in the evening, and the ones that do run late only do so till about 11PM or midnight. With a handfull operating later.

I think the Metro should be extended to Fairview Pointe Clair. Look how popular the express bus between the Metro and Fairview is. I think that speaks to the need for a rapid transit expansion to the west. And if not by Metro than by busway or something.

Halifax Hillbilly
09-18-2009, 01:30 AM
Exciting Metro expansion in Montreal, but what's the plan for the Laval loop of the Orange line - none of the maps show any new Laval stations and that looks to be quite a long loop through the suburbs. Was this expansion needed politically to bring Laval on board so that other projects could move forward at the regional level?

miketoronto
09-18-2009, 02:14 AM
Overall I think Canadian cities have been doing a great job for the most part in expanding basic service over the last couple years.

Halifax has started with commuter express buses, as has St. John. St. John also just redid their whole route network, and expanded service hours, even started a 10 min high frequency route, etc.

These kinds of expansions are almost unheard of in U.S. areas.

The fact that Canadian cities both small and large are trying to make transit more viable is good.

le calmar
09-18-2009, 02:46 AM
Exciting Metro expansion in Montreal, but what's the plan for the Laval loop of the Orange line - none of the maps show any new Laval stations and that looks to be quite a long loop through the suburbs. Was this expansion needed politically to bring Laval on board so that other projects could move forward at the regional level?

The stations in grey have already been the object of studies and that's why they are shown on the map. The remaining stations are still unknown, but from what we can see on the plan, the orange-line loop will include a station in le Carrefour Laval (the northernmost point), the largest mall in Quebec. Rolland-Therrien on the yellow line was supposed to be the terminal station of the new expansion, but the mayor of Longueuil decided to go ahead with a proposition to extend it all the way to St-Hubert airport... We don't know if it is going to happen yet, but that would change all lot of things... An aiport with a metro connection 15 min away from downtown!

MTLskyline
09-18-2009, 05:22 AM
The Montreal Metro expansion would give the system 79-80 stations (11-12 new stations) and a system length of approximately 85km (up 20km).

However, I think extending the blue line west is also important. There is no real metro stop in NDG (Sherbrooke St. West of Decarie). No metro stop at Concordia's Loyola Campus in western NDG/Montreal West.

The green line should extend into LaSalle or even Lachine.

There should also be a metro stop on Nun's Island, and maybe a tramway to the western part of the south shore: Brossard, Saint-Lambert, Greenfield Park and Saint-Hubert.

raggedy13
09-18-2009, 06:32 AM
I'm surprised nobody has posted anything about Vancouver's system yet. There are a ton of transit junkies in the Vancouver sub-forum. Anywho, I'll try to sum up some of the current highlights.

A month ago, the long-awaited Canada Line opened linking downtown Vancouver with the suburb of Richmond and YVR.

It is the light blue line. It appears this image leaves out 2 planned future stations as well (one more on Sea Island and one more in Richmond).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Vancouver_SkyTrain_Map.svg/800px-Vancouver_SkyTrain_Map.svg.png
From Wikipedia... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Vancouver_SkyTrain_Map.svg/800px-Vancouver_SkyTrain_Map.svg.png

And some of my pics from a few weeks back:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3835989926_d05e0b3ac2_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3421/3836015018_52838abb7b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2518/3835242441_e6d8d7c262_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/3835206829_503f7b795d_b.jpg

newflyer
09-18-2009, 06:33 AM
I know this is the Canada section, but maybe some of you may be interesed in the fastest growing Metro system in the world - the Shanghai Metro. :) Here's a map that will be current as of May 2010.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2426/3929029054_49e62bc95d_b.jpg

The overall length of the system is currently 246km on 8 lines, and will reach 408km on 12 lines by May 2010. It will reach over 500km on 14(?) lines by 2012, and over 900km on at least 20 lines by 2020. Extensions and new lines under construction to be opened by next year:

Line 7 (new line) - Qihua Road - Huamu Road, 35km, opening by end of December; (extension), Qihua Road-Meilanhu, 10km, opening by May 2010.
Line 9 (extension) - Yishan Road - Central Yanggao Road, 14.5km, opening by end of December
Line 10 (new line) - New Jiangwan City - Hongqiao Railway Station, 36km, opening by May 1st, 2010.
Line 11 (new line) - Branched line, total 45km, opening by end of December
Line 2 (2 extensions) - extension west from Songhong Road to Xujing, including Hongqiao Airport, 8km; extension east from Zhangjiang Hi-Tech park to Pudong Airport, 30km, both open by May 2010.

Current daily ridership is over 3.5 million, with over 1 million passengers on both lines 1 and 2. I'd expect ridership will reach at least 4.5 million per day when the new lines open by next year. The most amazing thing I can think of about the Shanghai Metro is the fact that prior to 1994, Shanghai had NO metro at all, so all of this has been built in little over 15 years! Just mind boggling.

That is amazing... especially considering how quickly it was built up. :tup:

Thanks for sharing.

vid
09-18-2009, 06:47 AM
Thunder Bay Transit is the best public transit system of any city on Lake Superior!

Which really isn't saying much... There is just no vision for mass transit from our municipal leaders, but there is demand for it. A lot of people support, at the very least, an express bus between Port Arthur and Fort William. (We used to have it, but the area got too developed and it is now a full service route.)

By public transit, it takes 30 minutes to travel 5 kilometres from one downtown to the other. It takes 8 minutes to travel this distance by car, and 15 to 20 to travel it by bike, to give you an idea of what is going on here. (In off peak times the bus can usually travel between the cores in 20 minutes, but it is very tight, and in the early evening and on Sunday they have to run two buses at a time to meet demand.)

Why is the Canada line light blue? I thought it was going to be red?

raggedy13
09-18-2009, 06:52 AM
Another potentially significant transit plan for Vancouver in the near future is the downtown streetcar. The City has already built/upgraded a short demonstration line for the 2010 Olympics where it will be showcased and its popularity will be gauged. The demonstration line will mostly run down an old rail ROW but other sections would run down streets, in medians, etc.

http://pricetags.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/p5140119.jpg?w=426&h=287
From Price Tags (http://pricetags.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/coming-attractions-false-creek-streetcar/)

Also, a few new Bombardier trams have been borrowed from Brussels' system to run during the Olympics, along with some historic trams which have been running along the route during the summer for a few years already.

Brussels' trams:
http://www.railway-technology.com/contractor_images/bombardier/1-Brussels-metro.jpg
From railway-technology.com (http://www.railway-technology.com/contractors/metro/bombardier/bombardier1.html)

This is the current proposed routing for the first few phases. Future additions that have been conceived include expansion down Granville Street, east into the False Creek Flats, and west to the Arbutus rail corridor where it could conceivably be brought at least as far south as Kerrisdale.
http://pricetags.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/streetcar_map.jpg
from Price Tags (http://pricetags.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/coming-attractions-false-creek-streetcar/)

raggedy13
09-18-2009, 07:04 AM
Another SkyTrain line that is supposed to start construction in a year is the Evergreen Line which will connect the Millennium Line in Burnaby with the northeast suburbs of Port Moody and Coquitlam. The planning for it is essentially complete but the project is currently facing funding issues. It is expected to be completed in 2014 and will be 11 km with 6 stations (2 additional stations are currently under review).

http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/documents/Maps_Graphics/ObliqueAlignment_Feb%2019.jpg
http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/

http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/documents/Maps_Graphics/AlignmentMap.jpg
http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/route_and_stations.htm

http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/documents/Maps_Graphics/transit_map_sm.jpg
http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/facts.htm

Brandon716
09-18-2009, 08:34 AM
Nice job on the Canada Line, I still think of the gaping hole in Granville back in 2007 when I was in Vancouver, and it seems to have opened in breakneck speed.

Rumors
09-19-2009, 02:48 AM
I really don't think the West Island needs a Metro line, most driveways have four or five high end vehicles sitting in them. There's a lot of money in that section of the city, and most people just jump on a commuter train, or take the Mercedes to the office. ;)

Acajack
09-19-2009, 03:23 AM
The West Island is is for the most part just like parts of suburban Toronto that have subway service.



Inner west end areas like Hampstead, Côte-St-Luc and Montréal-West are somewhat like the areas of Toronto (within the 416) that you describe.

But the true West Island is further out than that and is more similar to a place like Mississauga in urban structure.

Rico Rommheim
09-19-2009, 03:46 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2426/3929029054_49e62bc95d_b.jpg

Mind crippling just to look at! Wow!


I remeber the first time I took the London tube. IMPOSSIBLE. Forget it. even the locals carried around maps. And crowded. It was a fascinating experience.

Rumors
09-19-2009, 03:50 AM
Inner west end areas like Hampstead, Côte-St-Luc and Montréal-West are somewhat like the areas of Toronto (within the 416) that you describe.

But the true West Island is further out than that and is more similar to a place like Mississauga in urban structure.

Yes. :yes:

Ayreonaut
09-19-2009, 04:07 AM
I remeber the first time I took the London tube. IMPOSSIBLE. Forget it. even the locals carried around maps. And crowded. It was a fascinating experience.

The Tube is my favourite system that I've used so far.

O-Town Hockey
09-19-2009, 04:53 AM
The Paris Metro was cheap, efficient, surprisingly clean, and easy to use. It's my favorite so far.

http://www.eurofyi.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/metro-paris.gif

Ayreonaut
09-19-2009, 05:01 AM
Paris and NYC are my second and third favourites.

The Chemist
09-19-2009, 09:37 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2426/3929029054_49e62bc95d_b.jpg

Mind crippling just to look at! Wow!


I remeber the first time I took the London tube. IMPOSSIBLE. Forget it. even the locals carried around maps. And crowded. It was a fascinating experience.

Yeah, the Underground is a great system too, and the map is just iconic. A great map can make even the most complex system easy to get around. For me, though, I think that even complex systems can be easy if you know which line you're starting at, which line you're ending at, and where you have to interchange.

Imitation surely is the sincerest form of flattery, and given the number of imitators of the original Underground map (the Shanghai Metro map is just one of dozens) there's a clear winner in the 'best metro map in the world' category.

London, Beijing, and Shanghai are the only 3 'big' metro systems I've used, and of them I'd put Shanghai and London in a tie for first (the high cost of the Tube knocks it down a couple of notches for me) with Beijing a rather distant 3rd.

401_King
09-19-2009, 04:51 PM
meh...was in shanghai last month. its too new, people there dont know how to use the subway properly IMO

nothing in the world can touch Tokyos subway/Train system. its ridiculously on another level than any other city.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayhan/3876805234/sizes/l/

The Chemist
09-19-2009, 10:28 PM
meh...was in shanghai last month. its too new, people there dont know how to use the subway properly IMO



What's wrong with a subway system being 'too new'?

And what exactly do you mean by 'don't know how to use the subway properly'? I ride the Metro every day, and I don't notice any signs of people not knowing how to use it.

MTLskyline
09-20-2009, 02:46 AM
Inner west end areas like Hampstead, Côte-St-Luc and Montréal-West are somewhat like the areas of Toronto (within the 416) that you describe.

But the true West Island is further out than that and is more similar to a place like Mississauga in urban structure.

Yeah, the West Island doesn't even have sidewalks (or even curbs) for the most part (nor do they want them)! There's still farmland out there!

http://www.westislandchronicle.com/imgs/dynamique/articles/gros/5_stop_sign_3.jpg


Bryan Barbieri, a Creswell Street resident of 28 years, has expressed strong opposition to the sidewalk proposed for Creswell between St. Charles Boulevard and Epping Road. "The proposal to install sidewalks is a permanent and irreversible action and an urban-jungle concept that violates the essential character of our tranquil, green community," said Barbieri.
http://www.westislandchronicle.com/article-235919-No-calm-over-Beaconsfield-traffic-proposals.html

MolsonExport
09-20-2009, 03:01 AM
^my old neighborhood in the waste island. And Barbieri is my old boss at Concordia U. I must say, that I am disappointed in his statement. He is actually quite a nice guy, othewise.

MolsonExport
09-20-2009, 03:05 AM
Inner west end areas like Hampstead, Côte-St-Luc and Montréal-West are somewhat like the areas of Toronto (within the 416) that you describe.

But the true West Island is further out than that and is more similar to a place like Mississauga in urban structure.

Having grown up in the Waste, I beg to differ. the mississauga of Quebec is undoubtedly Laval. The west island is older....much more like North York.

SFUVancouver
09-20-2009, 03:22 AM
Vancouver's next SkyTrain line will be the Evergreen Line. Here is a recent update, undoubtably released by the Province to counter criticism that the project has entirely stalled due to our budget crisis.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3952/evergreen1.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4488/evergreen2.png
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5906/evergreen3.png

MolsonExport
09-20-2009, 03:27 AM
\i don't like that photo. the barnet highway sucks shit, and is always packed with cars...at least during daylight hours.

-ex Vancouverite.

vid
09-20-2009, 04:20 AM
No ditches, though. The neighbourhood I grew up in was part of a separate, small township before 1970 and they didn't have storm water or sewage, so everything went into ditches beside the road. Some were six feet deep. School buses occasionally drove through them while turning, which is very scary, but they never tipped over in my experience. (I'm sure it happened.) No back alleys, either, but the neighbourhood was from the 1910s. The main opposition to sidewalks here isn't that they ruin the feel of the street but because the city charges a tax (something like 0.00006% or so) on lots with a sidewalk in front.

miketoronto
09-20-2009, 01:21 PM
For how suburban it is, the West Island seems very pro transit. I noticed the local West Island newspaper has a bunch of stories on how the West Island wants Metro service, wants better bus service, etc.

Rumors
09-20-2009, 04:22 PM
So how suburban it is, the West Island seems very pro transit. I noticed the local West Island newspaper has a bunch of stories on how the West Island wants Metro service, wants better bus service, etc.

Please read post # 29. :yes:

Kilgore Trout
09-20-2009, 07:30 PM
since montreal has been covered, might as well chip in with what's going on here in hong kong. two new stations have opened in the past couple of months and five more will open in another couple of years. a few new lines are also in the planning stages. this is a map of the current metro system.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Hong_Kong_Railway_Route_Map_en.svg/646px-Hong_Kong_Railway_Route_Map_en.svg.png

Colin
09-21-2009, 12:23 AM
since montreal has been covered, might as well chip in with what's going on here in hong kong. two new stations have opened in the past couple of months and five more will open in another couple of years. a few new lines are also in the planning stages. this is a map of the current metro system.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Hong_Kong_Railway_Route_Map_en.svg/646px-Hong_Kong_Railway_Route_Map_en.svg.png

I loved the MTR! It was clean, efficient, and who doesn't love the Octopus card?

Wooster
09-21-2009, 01:48 AM
Hong Kong's MTR is phenomenal. Really the most usable metro in the world. I just wish it went to the other side of Hong Kong Island to places like Stanley.



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