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thager
Jan 13, 2010, 7:05 AM
there making a new canada monoply game and you can vote for the city's you want on the game, go to http://www.monopolyvote.ca/en_CA/world

Distill3d
Jan 13, 2010, 7:39 AM
Nice!

When all is said and done, Toronto and Montreal will be Park Place and Board Walk. Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver will be Pacific, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania Avenues.

Slug
Jan 13, 2010, 7:45 AM
and who will get the coveted Baltic Avenue crown? My money is on Thunder Bay or Fort McMurray :haha:

Yume-sama
Jan 13, 2010, 7:56 AM
Nice!

When all is said and done, Toronto and Montreal will be Park Place and Board Walk. Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver will be Pacific, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania Avenues.

Not necessarily. Look at World Monopoly. Somehow Montreal is Board Walk and cities like Tokyo, and New York are some of the cheapest you can buy :P

Don't be shocked to see Winnipeg as Board Walk! :tup: :haha:

Distill3d
Jan 13, 2010, 8:32 AM
and who will get the coveted Baltic Avenue crown? My money is on Thunder Bay or Fort McMurray :haha:

Surrey BC gets my vote.

Distill3d
Jan 13, 2010, 8:34 AM
Not necessarily. Look at World Monopoly. Somehow Montreal is Board Walk and cities like Tokyo, and New York are some of the cheapest you can buy :P

Don't be shocked to see Winnipeg as Board Walk! :tup: :haha:

That would be shocking, maybe not specifically surprising, but shocking.

I'm kind of tossed up with the Boardwalk prediction though. Montreal, Toronto, or Vancouver could easily take it. I just figure Vancouver would be "Pacific Avenue" for obvious reasons.

vid
Jan 13, 2010, 11:29 AM
and who will get the coveted Baltic Avenue crown? My money is on Thunder Bay or Fort McMurray :haha:

Oooh, Baltic Avenue is too rich fer us. :(

MolsonExport
Jan 13, 2010, 1:46 PM
monoply sounds like a brand of cheap toilet paper.

Presswood
Jan 13, 2010, 3:39 PM
So far there's a lot of Quebec cities on the leaderboard :cool:
You guys in the ROC better start voting or you'll hardly recognize your Canadian board :haha: !!

sdimedru
Jan 13, 2010, 5:42 PM
Kawartha Lakes?

vid
Jan 13, 2010, 5:47 PM
It's a "city" of 75,000 between Oshawa and Peterborough. I'm not entirely sure why they call it a city, it is more of a regional municipality. Chartham-Kent and Nanticoke are also "cities".

Distill3d
Jan 13, 2010, 6:15 PM
and who will get the coveted Baltic Avenue crown? My money is on Thunder Bay or Fort McMurray :haha:

I just actually remembered something, Fort McMurray isn't a city. Its a regional district.

mylesmalley
Jan 13, 2010, 6:40 PM
It's listed as Wood Buffalo on the monopoly site.

Distill3d
Jan 13, 2010, 6:45 PM
^That would make sense

matt602
Jan 13, 2010, 6:59 PM
Hamilton gets the Free Parking space. Plenty of empty lots downtown for it.

SKYSTHELIMIT
Jan 13, 2010, 8:02 PM
Hamilton gets the Free Parking space. Plenty of empty lots downtown for it.

And if your token is the little car don't land on Winnipeg cause it will be stolen.:D

Boreal
Jan 13, 2010, 8:11 PM
I'm assuming there is no jail in Canadian monopoly. You go directly to a 3-turn detention, upon which the bank pays you $50.

waterloowarrior
Jan 13, 2010, 8:28 PM
Income Tax: Pay 46 percent

Chance: Advance token to nearest Utility. Throw dice and pay owner a total ten times the amount thrown. If the utility is Hydro Quebec then the owner will subsidize five times the amount thrown.

Chance: Take a ride on the VIA railroad – if you pass a CP or CN railroad, then skip two turns to let the freight trains go by.

Also in the Canadian version, you only need two rolls to get out of jail instead of three, due to statutory release laws

Dmajackson
Jan 14, 2010, 12:19 AM
WTF Moncton is doing better than Halifax? Somethings wrong there ...

I feel like an idiot asking this but where exactly is the leader (Saint-Jean)?

Anyways I got my three faves voted for; The Fax Machine, Monctonia, and The Ville (du Quebec).

WhipperSnapper
Jan 14, 2010, 12:34 AM
I feel like an idiot asking this but where exactly is the leader (Saint-Jean)?


Idiot? It's a small town outside Montreal. Good choice for number one, IMO. Gotta give props to the hometown though. Barrie, Orangeville, and Halton Hills get my vote.

MolsonExport
Jan 14, 2010, 2:35 AM
where is the love for Hay River?

Distill3d
Jan 14, 2010, 2:36 AM
where is the love for Hay River?

Where? :shrug:
:haha:

Vaillant
Jan 14, 2010, 3:52 AM
i voted for Montréal, Laval, Québec and Brossard

francely57
Jan 14, 2010, 4:53 AM
The top 6 is all QC and AB right now.

vid
Jan 14, 2010, 5:27 AM
Hay River should be on the board. It has a taller building than Thunder Bay!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2104/2092946147_e108884fa1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottclouthier/2092946147/)
©Scott Clouthier (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottclouthier/)

If you think this is impressive, half the population of Whittier, Alaska lives in this building (http://www.terragalleria.com/america/alaska/whittier/picture.alas37233.html).

Bigtime
Jan 14, 2010, 3:22 PM
Thanks to Ice Pilots on History (http://www.icepilots.com/) I now know all about exciting places like Hay River, Norman Wells and Tulita! :tup:

I see Calgary has climbed into #3 position. Probably due to our mayor playing Mr. Moneybags yesterday:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4HRtTKLCLYc/S04XI9s2IKI/AAAAAAAAALs/zzzX8LL7HnQ/s1600/monopoly2
Link (http://www.calgarycitynews.com/2010/01/calgary-vies-for-monopolys-prime-real.html)

240glt
Jan 14, 2010, 4:23 PM
^ He looks like a greasy oil tycoon. How fitting.


I have a freind who flew for Buffalo for years... what a sketchy operation that was.

-Harlington-
Jan 14, 2010, 5:02 PM
i voted for halifax, im sure it'll be on ther probly as something odd though like jail or railroad :/
oh well we have a monopoly dedicated just for halifax so you can have the canada one :tup:

RTA
Jan 14, 2010, 5:09 PM
^ They have a Monopoly for everything these days.

"Monopoly: Pokemon Edition! Gotta Catch 'em All!"

Back in my day, all we had was wood-burning Monopoly.

RTD
Jan 14, 2010, 6:50 PM
I like how they have Prince George, BC. located where Cranbrook, BC is located on their map of cities, hehe.

Dmajackson
Jan 14, 2010, 8:57 PM
i voted for halifax, im sure it'll be on ther probly as something odd though like jail or railroad :/
oh well we have a monopoly dedicated just for halifax so you can have the canada one :tup:

I own that one. :)

In the last Canada edition Halifax had the three light blue areas (Barrington, SGR, University Ave). We still beat St. John's though. :haha:

frinkprof
Jan 15, 2010, 12:03 AM
I own that one. :)

In the last Canada edition Halifax had the three light blue areas (Barrington, SGR, University Ave). We still beat St. John's though. :haha:If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was set up to go east to west. The cheap dark purples were the furthest east (I believe George Street in St. John's was Baltic), and the most expensive, the dark blues, were from the west (I believe Robson Street was Boardwalk). MacLeod Trail and Jasper Avenue (Calgary and Edmonton, respectively) were the greens I think. Pretty sure Winnipeg's Portage Ave. was a yellow, and Toronto's Yonge Street was a red.

Dmajackson
Jan 15, 2010, 12:18 AM
If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was set up to go east to west. The cheap dark purples were the furthest east (I believe George Street in St. John's was Baltic), and the most expensive, the dark blues, were from the west (I believe Robson Street was Boardwalk). MacLeod Trail and Jasper Avenue (Calgary and Edmonton, respectively) were the greens I think. Pretty sure Winnipeg's Portage Ave. was a yellow, and Toronto's Yonge Street was a red.

This time to get back at Vancouver they should make it west-east.

That way either St. John's (Water Street) or Halifax (Spring Garden Road) would be Boardwalk.

Coral Builder
Jan 15, 2010, 1:23 AM
In descending order, as we round the board from boardwalk down to baltic, the following would be my votes.
1. Rosedale
2. Westmount

3. Bridle Path
4. Forest Hill
5. Rockliffe Park

6. Shaughnessy
7. West Vancouver
8. The Uplands

9. Upper Mount Royal
10. Tuxedo
11. Oakville

12. South End
13. Glenora
14. Ancaster

15. Outremont
16. Yorkville
17. Whistler

18. Bayview
19. Old Quebec
20. Charlottetown

21. St. Henri
22. Scarborough

thager
Jan 15, 2010, 5:19 AM
In descending order, as we round the board from boardwalk down to baltic, the following would be my votes.
1. Rosedale
2. Westmount

3. Bridle Path
4. Forest Hill
5. Rockliffe Park

6. Shaughnessy
7. West Vancouver
8. The Uplands

9. Upper Mount Royal
10. Tuxedo
11. Oakville

12. South End
13. Glenora
14. Ancaster

15. Outremont
16. Yorkville
17. Whistler

18. Bayview
19. Old Quebec
20. Charlottetown

21. St. Henri
22. Scarborough

hey did you know there are 3 provinces between b.c. and ontario.

just for that i hope it turns to be calgary-boardwalk and saskatoon - park place.

dsim249
Jan 15, 2010, 5:23 AM
hey did you know there are 3 provinces between b.c. and ontario.

just for that i hope it turns to be calgary-boardwalk and saskatoon - park place.

:haha: :haha:
I second that motion!

thager
Jan 15, 2010, 5:25 AM
just checked the votes and calgary is #1

dleung
Jan 15, 2010, 5:34 AM
Lol, If I were to do one of Vancouver it will be like as follows. Not necessarily ranked by prestige/wealth, since geographically-related neighbourhoods are grouped together, so different neighbourhoods within the same colour may be drastically disparate, but each colour as a whole is presumably better than the next.

OLD MONEY
▇ - Shaughnessy
▇ - Quilchena

WEST VAN
▇ - British Properties
▇ - Altamont
▇ - Lighthouse Park

WEST SIDE
▇ - West Point Grey
▇ - Kitsilano
▇ - Dunbar

DOWNTOWN
▇ - Coal Harbour
▇ - Gastown
▇ - False Creek

SOUTH SIDE
▇ - South Granville
▇ - Kerrisdale
▇ - Marpole

EAST SIDE
▇ - Mount Pleasant
▇ - Cambie
▇ - East Hastings

SOUTH OF FRASER
▇ - Broadmoor
▇ - Steveston
▇ - White Rock

SURREY
▇ - Hamilton
▇ - Whalley

MolsonExport
Jan 15, 2010, 4:43 PM
Whalley in (as) the Crackhouses. I like it. Worked in Whalley for 3 years back in the eighties, just across from Surrey City Centre. I miss the methadone clinics and pawn shops of East Whalley Ringworm road.

Dmajackson
Jan 15, 2010, 8:49 PM
hey did you know there are 3 provinces between b.c. and ontario.

just for that i hope it turns to be calgary-boardwalk and saskatoon - park place.

And there's three other provinces east of Quebec? (And btw why did you choose Charr'town?)

Habanero
Jan 15, 2010, 9:49 PM
I just looked at the voting, and Toronto is in the middle of the pack. they must pro-rate the voting, otherwise Toronto with it's sheer numbers would easily take #1.

francely57
Jan 18, 2010, 12:53 AM
^ Not necessarily.
You can vote every day... if people in Toronto don't care (or don't know) about the monopoly voting, only a few thousand will actually vote regularly. Smaller cities can easily beat TO if thousands really take the time to vote very regularly and make all their friends vote.


St-Jean is back on top (5.2%)

St-Jean-sur-Richelieu vs Calgary is such a weird confrontation :haha:

MolsonExport
Jan 18, 2010, 1:51 PM
^john versus gary.

Riise
Jan 18, 2010, 2:27 PM
I'm surprised voting allegiances and pacts have yet to emerge. You know, if you get the inhabitants of your city to vote for mine, I'll get mine to vote for your's. It's not enforceable but probably a risk some would be willing to take.

waterloowarrior
Feb 4, 2010, 6:45 AM
they took away the leaderboard. they still have the wildcard leaderboard up though.



#1 Banff #11 Coaticook
#2 Cornwall #12 Stratford
#3 Kenora #13 Jasper
#4 Beauceville #14 Burlington
#5 Niagara Falls #15 Repentigny
#6 Moose Jaw #16 Dauphin
#7 Corner Brook #17 Dryden
#8 Waterloo #18 Timmins
#9 Matan #19 Vernon
#10 Victoriaville #20 Cambridge

MolsonExport
Feb 4, 2010, 2:20 PM
^this is a board that I will not buy. Some scenic places, but mostly second-, third-, or fourth-rate cities. Coaticook for Boardwalk, anyone? Dryden for Marvin Gardens?

I've always liked Moose Jaw though

Ayreonaut
Feb 4, 2010, 2:48 PM
As he said, those are wildcard cities, few of them will be on the board.

vid
Feb 4, 2010, 7:33 PM
None of them should be on the board. Cornwall as Park Place would be funny.

Deepstar
Feb 4, 2010, 8:11 PM
I believe two wildcard cities get on the board. Where on the board, I don't know.

Banff for Boardwalk!

Ayreonaut
Feb 4, 2010, 8:24 PM
I could see Banff and Niagara Falls on the board.

Big Sky
Feb 16, 2010, 5:17 AM
I could see Banff and Niagara Falls on the board.

Niagara Falls and Banff are the two wildcard places that should be on the board, but it looks like Beauceville Que (wtf??), has some kind of local campaign going. It's in the lead!

http://www.monopolyvote.ca/en_CA/world/leaders

harls
Feb 16, 2010, 2:17 PM
I wonder if the board has already been made, and this contest is just a marketing campaign designed to drum up interest in buying the game.

man I'm cynical without my morning coffee..

RTA
Feb 16, 2010, 3:57 PM
^ I've thought that as well. You have to think that they would be pretty stupid to leave off any of the major cities (and lose out on pretty much that entire market in the process), even though several of the big cities were trailing so low, they were off the leaderboard completely. Hiding the leaderboard in the last week of voting only raises my suspicions that all the major cities will somehow "miraculously" have been voted up and onto the board in the final days.

MolsonExport
Feb 16, 2010, 5:08 PM
^hey, waterloo makes the top ten list! :D




RIM! OPEN-TEXT!!

Surrealplaces
Feb 16, 2010, 5:21 PM
I wonder if the board has already been made, and this contest is just a marketing campaign designed to drum up interest in buying the game.

man I'm cynical without my morning coffee..

I was thinking the same thing. This morning I voted for Niagara Falls and Banff, and saw that the banner on Monopoly's site shows Banff and Niagara Falls. It would be kind of ironic if they weren't on the board.

WhipperSnapper
Feb 16, 2010, 5:25 PM
My only interest is if they will produce a Canadian addition sans Toronto who likely did not make the cut.

Deepstar
Feb 17, 2010, 3:37 PM
^ I've thought that as well. You have to think that they would be pretty stupid to leave off any of the major cities (and lose out on pretty much that entire market in the process), even though several of the big cities were trailing so low, they were off the leaderboard completely. Hiding the leaderboard in the last week of voting only raises my suspicions that all the major cities will somehow "miraculously" have been voted up and onto the board in the final days.

They've done that again, which leads me to think the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if Banff and Niagara Falls miraculously end up on the board. With all due respect to places like Beauceville, Moosejaw and Victoriaville, if I'm the one choosing the places, I'm putting Niagara Falls and Banff on.

bulliver
Mar 2, 2010, 11:54 PM
Reviving this thread because I have a bit of an interesting personal involvement, and I would like to get some opinions.

Now way back before Christmas I was contacted by a fellow named Russell Challenger, who runs a graphic design company that was hired by Hasbro to design the gameboard. He basically asked me if I would be interested in allowing Hasbro to aquire the rights to use the following photo of Edmonton City Hall to use for the Edmonton square on the gameboard:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2801/4032830357_53d0a6e4ea_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/badcomputer/4032830357/)

Now, he specifically mentioned 'compensation' if the image was selected, and I told him I was tentatively willing to entertain the notion depending on details. He then said he would pass on my information to Hasbro to contact me directly. I promptly forgot about the whole thing until I recieved a call this morning from the 'Brand Manager' of Hasbro, who emailed me a legal document for me to sign and return giving them the rights to use the image.

So: I read this document, and they basically want non-exclusive rights to the image for free. The document mentions "good and valuable promotional consideration" whatever that means. I have emailed back asking for clarification on the matter...but I am not hopeful.

I guess my question to you all is...do you think it's worth giving away the image solely for the warm fuzzy feeling I get from having my photo used on the gameboard? I get the feeling if a balk and ask for any money they'll basically tell me to piss off and use some other photo of Edmonton taken by someone who thinks it's worth it...

What would you do?

Ayreonaut
Mar 3, 2010, 12:12 AM
I'd probably allow them to use it, that would be pretty badass.

cdnklc
Mar 3, 2010, 12:28 AM
Reviving this thread because I have a bit of an interesting personal involvement, and I would like to get some opinions.

Now way back before Christmas I was contacted by a fellow named Russell Challenger, who runs a graphic design company that was hired by Hasbro to design the gameboard. He basically asked me if I would be interested in allowing Hasbro to aquire the rights to use the following photo of Edmonton City Hall to use for the Edmonton square on the gameboard:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2801/4032830357_53d0a6e4ea_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/badcomputer/4032830357/)

Now, he specifically mentioned 'compensation' if the image was selected, and I told him I was tentatively willing to entertain the notion depending on details. He then said he would pass on my information to Hasbro to contact me directly. I promptly forgot about the whole thing until I recieved a call this morning from the 'Brand Manager' of Hasbro, who emailed me a legal document for me to sign and return giving them the rights to use the image.

So: I read this document, and they basically want non-exclusive rights to the image for free. The document mentions "good and valuable promotional consideration" whatever that means. I have emailed back asking for clarification on the matter...but I am not hopeful.

I guess my question to you all is...do you think it's worth giving away the image solely for the warm fuzzy feeling I get from having my photo used on the gameboard? I get the feeling if a balk and ask for any money they'll basically tell me to piss off and use some other photo of Edmonton taken by someone who thinks it's worth it...

What would you do?

i would probably grant them the non-exclusive rights...

i would also try and limit their use of the image (or at least find out how and where else it will be used) and restrict its use to being placed on the board, on the box and on any advertising material promoting same and in no other manner without your consent.

i would also try to ensure that you retain the right to notify others of and to promote the fact that the image they are using is your image. from a self-promotion/marketing perspective, that would seem to be worth more than "just being badass" and would have more potential marketing value over time than what you might be able to get simply selling them the right to use it.

i would also ask for some comp copies of the game and any other material that might contain your image.

initial thoughts anyway - hope they help.

flar
Mar 3, 2010, 12:35 AM
It's a corporation, they're in it for the money. I'd make them pay, but they may just go with someone else's photo in that case.

vid
Mar 3, 2010, 2:23 AM
If it was my photo, I'd upload it to Wikimedia Commons under public domain and let them and anyone else use it. If they aren't going to pay me for a particular photo, no one should have to pay for it.

TR_Tower
Mar 3, 2010, 3:35 AM
I'd forgo any possible dough for the pride and privilege of having the photo used ... and damned fine photo it is !!!

bulliver
Mar 3, 2010, 4:02 AM
Thanks for the opinions everyone.

I agree, it is pretty 'badass' and I am quite thrilled that they would pick my shot.

The legalise makes it quite clear they require the right to use the shot edited or unedited, for any purpose whatsover, for the rest of time. It did mention they will only use it for Monopoly itself.

@vid...not sure I'm following your reasoning. Hasbro doesn't want to pay so nobody should have to? I should mention that this shot, like all my shots, is licensed CC-BA-SA for commercial or noncommercial use. Hasbro is is clearly unwilling to comply with the attribution clause, and they are certainly not willing to make any edits they make downloadable to the public under the same license, the points they would have to address to use the picture for free.

I've taken over 2500 shots now, and they are all licensed permissably. I really don't think I am being greedy to expect some cash if they are unwilling to comply with the conditions of the creative-commons license. All I have ever really asked for is credit for my work...and Hasbro seems to not want to provide it.

@TR_Tower...Thank you. You have pretty much touched upon the root of my dilemma. I agree with the pride, but I am unsure there is any privelage. Is it a privelage to give away your work for free? To a huge company that has the resources to pay for it? When said company is set to make large sums of money on the game?

Keep in mind I don't really give a rat's ass about monopoly. And if they don't even toss in some comp copies I'll be out of pocket just to enjoy my own work...

---
Anyway...I'm going to wait for Hasbro's response before I make any decision. I appreciate the input.

RTA
Mar 3, 2010, 4:06 AM
I had a similar situation to this a while ago. I guess it really depends on how you feel about the photo and its value to you: Is it (and by extension your skills and talent as a photographer) worth enough to you that you feel you deserve to be compensated for it monetarily, or is it more worth it to you to have the (possible) promotion (the wording IS sketchy there...) or at least the bragging rights?

Keeping in mind of course that if you ask for money, they will probably just move on to the next best photo they could find and try the same.

At least they took the time to contact you and seem to have a basic understanding of your rights and of licensing. Can't say the same for AOL Money, who still won't return my calls over improper use of one of my photos...

Coldrsx
Mar 3, 2010, 4:52 AM
100% ask for compensation as any professional photographer would do and any self respecting graphic designer would recognize as industry standard.

giallo
Mar 3, 2010, 5:19 AM
^Agreed.

Hasbro is a big company that can easily give you some bones for the photo. Actually, it's pretty insulting that they didn't even offer you anything at all except for 'credit'. F*ck credit. Seriously. This is just another case of a big company trying to get something for nothing. Basically all they are doing is changing the names and PHOTOS to try and sell the same product to people who already own the previous board. The amount of money invested in this project is nil. Most of their advertising is done through this 'Vote for you city' online promotion. It costs them next to nothing, yet they still try and stiff the photographers.

If it was me, I'd tell them to piss off.

harls
Mar 3, 2010, 2:00 PM
^Agreed.

Hasbro is a big company that can easily give you some bones for the photo. Actually, it's pretty insulting that they didn't even offer you anything at all except for 'credit'. F*ck credit. Seriously. This is just another case of a big company trying to get something for nothing. Basically all they are doing is changing the names and PHOTOS to try and sell the same product to people who already own the previous board. The amount of money invested in this project is nil. Most of their advertising is done through this 'Vote for you city' online promotion. It costs them next to nothing, yet they still try and stiff the photographers.

If it was me, I'd tell them to piss off.

Agree 100%.

MolsonExport
Mar 3, 2010, 2:39 PM
^Agreed.

Hasbro is a big company that can easily give you some bones for the photo. Actually, it's pretty insulting that they didn't even offer you anything at all except for 'credit'. F*ck credit. Seriously. This is just another case of a big company trying to get something for nothing. Basically all they are doing is changing the names and PHOTOS to try and sell the same product to people who already own the previous board. The amount of money invested in this project is nil. Most of their advertising is done through this 'Vote for you city' online promotion. It costs them next to nothing, yet they still try and stiff the photographers.

If it was me, I'd tell them to piss off.

I agree 100%. In lieu of money, HAsbro is trying to pay with flattery (ass-gassery)...in fact, it would seem like Hasbro thinks they are doing you a favor, by publishing your artwork gratis.

HomeInMyShoes
Mar 3, 2010, 3:02 PM
Now way back before Christmas I was contacted by a fellow named Russell Challenger, who runs a graphic design company that was hired by Hasbro to design the gameboard. He basically asked me if I would be interested in allowing Hasbro to aquire the rights to use the following photo of Edmonton City Hall to use for the Edmonton square on the gameboard:

Now, he specifically mentioned 'compensation' if the image was selected, and I told him I was tentatively willing to entertain the notion depending on details. He then said he would pass on my information to Hasbro to contact me directly. I promptly forgot about the whole thing until I recieved a call this morning from the 'Brand Manager' of Hasbro, who emailed me a legal document for me to sign and return giving them the rights to use the image.

So: I read this document, and they basically want non-exclusive rights to the image for free. The document mentions "good and valuable promotional consideration" whatever that means. I have emailed back asking for clarification on the matter...but I am not hopeful.

I guess my question to you all is...do you think it's worth giving away the image solely for the warm fuzzy feeling I get from having my photo used on the gameboard? I get the feeling if a balk and ask for any money they'll basically tell me to piss off and use some other photo of Edmonton taken by someone who thinks it's worth it...

What would you do?

I'd tell them to go [excuse the language] fuck themselves. Seriously. Gigantic company wanting exclusive rights to an image for nothing. Serious BULLSHIT.

For sure, they wll try and find some other sucker. If it was just usage, and you retain the rights then I'd actually be torn on what my decision would be. But exclusive is not a freebie. Seriously.

Corporations are garbage and Hasbro has just been added to my list of companies not to buy products from if I can help it.

bulliver
Mar 3, 2010, 6:02 PM
Hey, thanks again for the input folks. I'm just waiting for her call at the moment...

@giallo and cold...the thing is I am not a professional, just a hobbiest. That said, I do value my work.

@HIMS...It is in fact non-exclusive rights that they want, hence why I am torn on this.

Deepstar
Mar 3, 2010, 6:19 PM
Hey, thanks again for the input folks. I'm just waiting for her call at the moment...

@giallo and cold...the thing is I am not a professional, just a hobbiest. That said, I do value my work.

@HIMS...It is in fact non-exclusive rights that they want, hence why I am torn on this.

Maybe PM SSP member, Surrealplaces. He was involved in some copyright issue with Paramount Pictures a while back.

cdnklc
Mar 3, 2010, 9:07 PM
Hey, thanks again for the input folks. I'm just waiting for her call at the moment...

@giallo and cold...the thing is I am not a professional, just a hobbiest. That said, I do value my work.

@HIMS...It is in fact non-exclusive rights that they want, hence why I am torn on this.

if i could give you two scenarios that might add some perspective for you...

you are looking to get a contract for a photo-shoot... you present your work which as you note has to date all been done "by a hobbyist". or you can present your work including a feature shot acquired (albeit for little or no cash compensation) by hasbro for use on the exclusive canadian edition of monopoly.

which "pitch" is more readily saleable by you as well as being more purchasable by the other party (who may well have to report to others and be able to justify their selection to someone who might not understand or appreciate photograpy on its own)?

i'm not sure if you should be looking at this as giving away your work (which some seem to think would be the case albeit for a single photograph for a specific use) or as your investing in the marketability of your work (which constitutes much more than a single photograph).

Spoolmak
Mar 3, 2010, 9:47 PM
When are the results released?

bulliver
Mar 3, 2010, 10:26 PM
All right, well! I am happy to say I have finally sold my first shot! After a bit of negotiation I have settled for a modest sum and a comp copy of the game.

I want to thank you all for encouraging me to stand up and ask for some cash, which I did.

@cdnklc...you know, I very much agree with you, and I think this will be good for my 'portfolio', but I found it very hard to swallow the fact that they didn't even want to give me credit on the game itself, which may make it difficult for me to even convince others the shot is in fact mine.

@Spoolmak...The website is down, and only displays 'Check for the game summer of 2010'. I guess the are not going to release the results until the game itself is released.

Thanks again everybody, I am quite pleased with the outcome...

CMD UW
Mar 4, 2010, 4:31 AM
I think that you should be 'reasonably' compensated in some manner. They are using your image in a product that they plan to profit from. Why should you just let it go for free.

EDIT: Sounds like you struck a deal. Good for you man, a win-win for both parties.

francely57
Mar 4, 2010, 4:48 AM
Well done, bulliver!


'Check for the game summer of 2010'
Do you guys think St-Jean-sur-Richelieu and/or Chatham-Kent could still somehow be on the board???

MolsonExport
Mar 4, 2010, 2:12 PM
I'm Ok with St.-Jean-sur Richelieu, but Chatham-Kent? It is one of those horrid mega municipalities of which 99% is boring farmland, and the other 1% is rather like Zanesville, Ohio (i.e., some declining medium-sized city of the midwest)

flar
Mar 4, 2010, 3:21 PM
I'm Ok with St.-Jean-sur Richelieu, but Chatham-Kent? It is one of those horrid mega municipalities of which 99% is boring farmland, and the other 1% is rather like Zanesville, Ohio (i.e., some declining medium-sized city of the midwest)

Come on man, Chatham-Kent includes places like Bothwell, Tilbury and Duart, not to mention Morpeth.

cdnklc
Mar 4, 2010, 4:34 PM
Come on man, Chatham-Kent includes places like Bothwell, Tilbury and Duart, not to mention Morpeth.

bothwell, tilbury and duart? morpeth? sounds like a setting for the next chapter of the dark tower or an upcoming harry potter. ducking already... :)

cdnklc
Mar 4, 2010, 4:37 PM
All right, well! I am happy to say I have finally sold my first shot! After a bit of negotiation I have settled for a modest sum and a comp copy of the game.
...
congratulations... although we are all still hoping that you will continue to post some of your work now that you are a professional and no longer just a hobbyist. :)

MolsonExport
Mar 4, 2010, 4:53 PM
How could I forget Morpeth? The population is 200...actually 2200 if you count the zoo (Greenview Aviaries)

bulliver
Mar 5, 2010, 5:17 PM
congratulations... although we are all still hoping that you will continue to post some of your work now that you are a professional and no longer just a hobbyist. :)

Ha ha! Thanks cdnklc and everyone! I most certainly will keep posting my stuff. Assuming I ever get near a skyscraper again :(

Ayreonaut
Mar 5, 2010, 6:25 PM
I most certainly will keep posting my stuff. Assuming I ever get near a skyscraper again :(

Either way, your recent stuff from Penticton has been great too.

waterloowarrior
Jun 22, 2010, 3:58 PM
"GO" Canada! Hasbro celebrates 75 years of MONOPOLY this Canada Day with an all new edition created by Canadians! (http://newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/June2010/22/c7212.html)
The world's favorite family game brand announces the 22 cities elected by fans across Canada to appear on new MONOPOLY: Canada Edition game board

TORONTO, June 22 /CNW Telbec/ - The results are in! After passionate campaigns across the country and more than one million votes from MONOPOLY fans from Kelowna to Kawartha Lakes, 22 of Canada's favourite cities now have a home on the new MONOPOLY: Canada Edition game board. Chatham-Kent, Ontario now represents the coveted Boardwalk spot, with Saint-Jean-Sur Richelieu Quebec capturing Park Place to round out the prestigious dark blue property group in the popular game invented by Charles Darrow in 1935.

"We are thrilled to celebrate Canada Day with this new all-Canadian edition of the world's favorite family game brand featuring cities voted by Canadians!" said Michelle Sinclair, Brand Manager of Games & Puzzles for toy and game-maker Hasbro Canada. "We hope that Canadian MONOPOLY fans will enjoy playing on a game board that includes an interesting mix of our cities featuring all of the dynamic cultures, sights and history of this country."

Votes were cast during a six-week period in early 2010. The first four weeks of voting determined 20 of the 22 cities featured in the game, picked from 65 pre-selected cities based on the population size of the province in which they resided. The remaining two spots were reserved for a wildcard vote for any city across Canada. Ten cities with the most nominations for the wildcard faced off for two weeks in February 2010 and Beauceville, Quebec and Banff, Alberta earned the brown property spaces on the game board, traditionally occupied by Baltic Avenue and Mediterranean Avenue.

Celebrating Great Canadian Cities

The following 22 cities earned spots on the MONOPOLY: Canada Edition game board, and are listed with the highest rent properties first:

- Dark Blue: Chatham-Kent, Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu
- Green: Calgary, Sarnia, Edmonton
- Yellow: Windsor, Quebec City, Trois-Rivieres
- Red: Medicine Hat, Gatineau, Shawinigan
- Orange: Kawartha Lakes, Chilliwack, Montreal
- Magenta: Kelowna, North Bay, St. John's
- Light Blue: Ottawa, Toronto, Vancouver
- Brown: Beauceville, Banff

Along with the 22 property spaces featuring great Canadian cities, the game will include updated Chance and Community Chest cards that highlight events and culturally relevant scenarios from Canada. Players may take flight at the International Balloon Festival in Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, skate along the Rideau Canal in Ottawa or win big at the casinos in Niagara Falls. The new MONOPOLY: Canada Edition also features an Electronic Banking unit with cards instead of cash. Players can collect rent and buy their favourite Canadian cities with the touch of a button!

Today, the MONOPOLY brand provides entertainment experiences for players around the world. Whether they play the board game, digital or online games, or participate in casino or lottery gaming, there is a MONOPOLY experience to fit every lifestyle. Stemming from the strategic alliance between Hasbro and Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: ERTS), EA has created digital versions of MONOPOLY which are available for download for mobile phones or free online at www.Pogo.com. MONOPOLY is also available for console gaming systems, including the Nintendo Wii(TM), Xbox 360(TM), PlayStation(R)2 and PLAYSTATION(R).

The new MONOPOLY: Canada Edition will be available in stores across the country, in both English and French on June 28th, 2010 for an approximate retail price of $39.99. For more information please visit www.hasbro.ca.

PoscStudent
Jun 22, 2010, 4:29 PM
Toronto actually made it on in the end, before the lsit disappeared they weren't on it. I don't believe Vancouver was either.

While I'm glad St. John's made it on the board, the only Atlantic Canadian city on it, I'm disappointed it didn't do a bit better for a while it was in the top 5 and I think went has high as maybe 3 but that's it it's only a game.

SHOFEAR
Jun 22, 2010, 4:34 PM
RTD is going to go on a hunger strike.

MolsonExport
Jun 22, 2010, 4:52 PM
Dark Blue: Chatham-Kent, Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu

But of course! Everyone would agree that C-K is the epitomy of Boardwalk while SJ is a dead ringer for Park place.

waterloowarrior
Jun 22, 2010, 5:01 PM
Atlantic provinces - 7% of population, 5% of properties (1/22)
Central Canada - 62% of population, 64% of properties (14/22)
West - 31% of population, 32% of properties (7/22)
Territories - 0.3% of population, 0% of properties (0/22)

freeweed
Jun 22, 2010, 5:26 PM
I have to display my western ignorance here; before today I had never even heard of Chatham-Kent. The English versions, I've been to. But in Canada?

So here I am thinking "wow, stupid westerner, you know nothing about the east, clearly it's a big and important city in Ontario, you should get out more". Maybe it's not a huge city, but some tiny enclave full of the richest Canadians, that everyone in Ontario knows about and I've just never heard of. Fire up Wikipedia...

Nope. It's about as notable as Kenora or Wawa.

I assume the Quebec city on Park Place is similarly insignificant, but maybe I'm wrong there. Too lazy to keep Googling stuff all day.

This game is a farce. A funny one, but still a farce. I guess on the bright side, it might introduce some kids to places they've never heard of before.

PS: do Ontarians folks pronounce it the proper, British way? Chat-am, as opposed to how it first looked to my heathen eyes, Chath-am. My British friends all called me "American" for saying THAT the first time. :haha:

Biff
Jun 22, 2010, 5:40 PM
I have to say, i am kind of a geography buff and would like to think i know of a lot of places but....Chatham-Kent, Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, Shawinigan, Kawartha Lakes and Beauceville i can honestly say i have never heard of before.

francely57
Jun 22, 2010, 5:47 PM
I have to say, i am kind of a geography buff and would like to think i know of a lot of places but....Chatham-Kent, Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, Shawinigan, Kawartha Lakes and Beauceville i can honestly say i have never heard of before.

Never heard of Shawinigan? it's Jean Chrétien's hood!

St-Jean-sur-Richelieu (pop 90,000) is a few km southeast of MTL, and it will likely become part of Greater Montreal in the next few years.

flar
Jun 22, 2010, 5:59 PM
Chatham-Kent isn't even a city. It's the former county of Kent, about 99% farmland and maybe a dozen small towns.

Ayreonaut
Jun 22, 2010, 6:19 PM
They should have just gone by population. Toronto and Montreal being Boardwalk and Park Place, etc. Obviously people are dumb and shouldn't have a say.

freeweed
Jun 22, 2010, 6:24 PM
They should have just gone by population. Toronto and Montreal being Boardwalk and Park Place, etc. Obviously people are dumb and shouldn't have a say.

Yeah, as fun as the voting idea was, I think I agree with you.

Calgary is the only city I can think of that fell "close" to what you're proposing. We'd be in the green section at any rate along with Vancouver and Ottawa.

PoscStudent
Jun 22, 2010, 6:42 PM
They should have just gone by population. Toronto and Montreal being Boardwalk and Park Place, etc. Obviously people are dumb and shouldn't have a say.

If they had almost all the cities would have been in Ontario, as well it was done a few years ago kind of like that except they had all the provinces represented and the board started in Newfoundland and Labrador and went to British Columbia.

As well Torontonians obviously didn't give a shit where they placed, if thy did they would have voted, so they don't really deserve to be in first place.

240glt
Jun 22, 2010, 6:46 PM
I like how people are getting all uptight about where certain places ended up on the board. Honest to god, who cares ?

Ayreonaut
Jun 22, 2010, 7:02 PM
If they had almost all the cities would have been in Ontario, as well it was done a few years ago kind of like that except they had all the provinces represented and the board started in Newfoundland and Labrador and went to British Columbia.


Eight would have been from Ontario. Not much change from what it is.


- Dark Blue: Toronto, Montreal
- Green: Vancouver, Calgary, Ottawa
- Yellow: Edmonton, Quebec City, Winnipeg
- Red: Hamilton, London, Kitchener
- Orange: St. Catharines, Halifax, Oshawa
- Magenta: Victoria, Windsor, Saskatoon
- Light Blue: Regina, Sherbrooke, St. John's
- Brown: Barrie, Kelowna

Ayreonaut
Jun 22, 2010, 7:04 PM
I like how people are getting all uptight about where certain places ended up on the board. Honest to god, who cares ?

I don't care so much where places are, but what places are on the board. It seems ridiculous not to have Winnipeg, Hamilton, or Halifax on there.

freeweed
Jun 22, 2010, 7:22 PM
I like how people are getting all uptight about where certain places ended up on the board. Honest to god, who cares ?

Um, that's the whole point of this thread? To discuss this?



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