[Pandemonious]

The standings are so close it is crazy. Look at NHL standings by entire league. Look up at Caps at #6 and then look way down at Blackhawks pretty far down there look how similar their records really are. esp. considering total goals scored... this season has a huge pack of solid teams. This is like the playoffs already. Really exciting for most all teams in tbe league. :cheers:

[Yume-sama]

When you show them to your grandkids in 30 years and they say "wow you were at the game!?" you can say "Naw, sat that one out, would have had to park three (holding up 3 fingers for full effect) blocks away! But aren't the tickets cool?"

Nah, I'll say I went and walked three blocks uphill in both directions.

[Nicko999]

It's going to be discustingly ugly tommorow.:uhh:

BTW-Brian Gionta is now the only Habs player to have played in all 60 games. Ironically, he's also the smallest (second smallest in the NHL). Small players are though!;)

[SpikePhanta]

How is it going to be ugly?

Vancouver isn't the goon type of team, we have no fighters :P

[Nicko999]

Vancouver is the best team in the NHL at home and the Habs sucks in Western Canada (or on the road in general)

Last season in Vancouver: 7-1 loss
2008-2009: 4-2 loss in Vancouver

We'll see what happens but I'm not feeling confident with this team on the road.

At the Bell Centre on the other hand, we play like Stanley Cup contenders with 44 pts at home. We're the second best team in the NHL after the Canucks (47 pts) at home.

[freeweed]

BTW-Brian Gionta is now the only Habs player to have played in all 60 games. Ironically, he's also the smallest (second smallest in the NHL). Small players are though!;)

Calgary is in a similar boat with only 6 guys, and we've had hardly any injuries this season. However damn near every player was a healthy scratch at one point or another, so very few complete seasons. :haha:

[freeweed]

How is it going to be ugly?

Vancouver isn't the goon type of team, we have no fighters :P

Dirty players can make for just as ugly a game, even without fighting.

Mind you I think a goodly amount of Van's cheapshot artists are injured right now, so Burrows will have to shoulder the load.

[frinkprof]

Vancouver is the best team in the NHL at home and the Habs sucks in Western Canada (or on the road in general)The entire Eastern Conference sucks against the Western Conference.

Last year the Eastern Conference consisted of one excellent team (Washington), while the rest were mediocre or downright terrible. 4 Eastern playoff teams (Ottawa, Boston, Montreal, Philadelphia) would not have made the playoffs last year if they were in the West. This year is a little different, but the East is still much worse than the West.

Looking at league standings as of today, 4 of the worst 5 and 7 of the worst 9 teams in the league belong to the Eastern Conference.

I'm sure the story may be different in a few years, but that's just the way it is right now.

[freeweed]

I'm sure the story may be different in a few years, but that's just the way it is right now.

It feels like it's been this way for decades now, but that can't possibly be true, can it?

Anyone have a quick way to determine points per conference over the past 30 years or so? Or some other measure...

[frinkprof]

^No real quick way. All the season standings are on the NHL.com website going back 90+ years, so it would just be a matter of running those numbers.

Either way, speaking about the last couple years the west is quite a bit different than the east. I would say there's only one truly terrible team in the west (oilers), while the east has 4 legitimately terrible clubs (Islanders, Leafs, Senators, Devils). Switch out Senators and Devils this year for Panthers and Lightning last year. I think the playoff race and just general competitiveness in any single game is a lot different if there's only one team you can reasonably expect to have an easy time playing, compared to 3-5 in the East.

The playoff race is just so much tighter in the west, and even the teams that end up in 9th and 10th are really competitive clubs.

I've wondered for awhile now what it would be like if Detroit were moved to the Eastern Conference.

[The_Architect]

The entire Eastern Conference sucks against the Western Conference.

Last year the Eastern Conference consisted of one excellent team (Washington), while the rest were mediocre or downright terrible. 4 Eastern playoff teams (Ottawa, Boston, Montreal, Philadelphia) would not have made the playoffs last year if they were in the West. This year is a little different, but the East is still much worse than the West.

Looking at league standings as of today, 4 of the worst 5 and 7 of the worst 9 teams in the league belong to the Eastern Conference.

I'm sure the story may be different in a few years, but that's just the way it is right now.

I find it funny how you call the Leafs a truly terrible club, then say "the entire Eastern Conference sucks against the West".

You know that "terrible club" is 7-6-1 against the west right? ;)

[SHOFEAR]

[QUOTE=LeftCoaster;5172272]my oh my... just in a league of their own.

[QUOTE]

a down syndrome league.

[LeftCoaster]

^ Awesome joke...?

Mind you I think a goodly amount of Van's cheapshot artists are injured right now, so Burrows will have to shoulder the load.

Who exactly are Van's cheapshot artists? Burrows only cheapshots come out of his mouth, he's too big a pussy to do anything physical.

[frinkprof]

I find it funny how you call the Leafs a truly terrible clubHow else would you or anyone else classify the Leafs in this season and last? They are a bottom 5 club in the league. In a 30 team league, is it really that much of a reach to call the poorest-showing ~15% of teams terrible? The Leafs are terrible this year. They were terrible last year. That is not a stretch, and I'm amazed that anyone would find it such a funny thing to say.

Now, if only there were some way of giving these currently-terrible teams a fighting chance to be competitive in the future. Some sort of systematic method of giving these teams an exclusive right to add the best of the young up-and-coming hockey players to their team so as to improve their chances of being more competitive in the future. Something almost resembling a draft. Surely the management of these teams would even have the foresight to reasonably predict their chances of winning in upcoming seasons and use this draft as a means to improve themselves rather than, and I'm really reaching here, trading away those draft picks, especially for other players who won't appreciably improve their chances at being competitive.


then say "the entire Eastern Conference sucks against the West".

You know that "terrible club" is 7-6-1 against the west right? ;)Uh oh. One game over .500. Better watch out for this dominating team.

The generalization rings true if you compare the East vs. the West.

[freeweed]

Screw the draft, Toronto should be more than capable of building a successful team through free agency. The claim is that players usually want to play there over such backwoods cities as Calgary or Edmonton, so they should have no issue attracting top-notch experienced talent. Heck, pre-cap even the Rangers managed to buy a championship, and they're the worst team in NHL history by most measures.

I know their drafting strategy of late certainly ain't helping, but there's no reason the Leaves shouldn't be able to manage at least a season or two above .500 this decade. Free agency is huge these days.

[The_Architect]

How else would you or anyone else classify the Leafs in this season and last? They are a bottom 5 club in the league. In a 30 team league, is it really that much of a reach to call the poorest-showing ~15% of teams terrible? The Leafs are terrible this year. They were terrible last year. That is not a stretch, and I'm amazed that anyone would find it such a funny thing to say.

Now, if only there were some way of giving these currently-terrible teams a fighting chance to be competitive in the future. Some sort of systematic method of giving these teams an exclusive right to add the best of the young up-and-coming hockey players to their team so as to improve their chances of being more competitive in the future. Something almost resembling a draft. Surely the management of these teams would even have the foresight to reasonably predict their chances of winning in upcoming seasons and use this draft as a means to improve themselves rather than, and I'm really reaching here, trading away those draft picks, especially for other players who won't appreciably improve their chances at being competitive.


Uh oh. One game over .500. Better watch out for this dominating team.

The generalization rings true if you compare the East vs. the West.

You took my comment out of context.. I wasn't saying I resent calling the Leafs terrible, I said ...and then talking about how the east sucks vs the west. I was just giving an example of a terrible club with a +500 record against the "harder conference" when they don't even have a .500 record overall.
I'm not denying that the Leafs were a terrible club last year, and a bad one this year (I wouldn't say terrible this year, they were just 6 points out after all, the Ottawa Senators are terrible), just that obviously the entire east isn't terrible vs the west, which is what was said.

[freeweed]

This is an odd one.. Hagman was placed on waivers yesterday and cleared today. But I haven't really seen any news on this.

Yet another of Calgary's ex-Leaves turns out to be complete shit (big surprise). I guess we can take solace in the fact that Phaneuf imploded even more spectacularly than the worst pessimist would have thought? :haha:

Next up (and last, if my count is correct): Matt Stajan retires to start up a sewing circle.

Hmm, maybe I've answered my own question as to why Toronto is having such a hard time lately. I remember when Stajan, Hagman and to a lesser degree White were the "future of the franchise" down there, according to many commentators.

[You Need A Thneed]

It should be stated that even though Hagman went through waivers unclaimed, doesn't mean that he has no trade value. Teams that are too close to the cap or at the 50 player contract limit may have wanted him, but couldn't claim him. Those teams would want to send a player back with some salary so that the salary cap and/or the contract limit work out.

Right now, a third of the league couldn't have put in a claim on Hagman even if they wanted to, simply because of cap space. The contract limit rule might have prevented some more.

Calgary traded for Huselius a few years ago just after he cleared waivers - as one example.

[Ayreonaut]

I wonder what the reason(s) is/are. I like Hagman.

[reidjr]

Screw the draft, Toronto should be more than capable of building a successful team through free agency. The claim is that players usually want to play there over such backwoods cities as Calgary or Edmonton, so they should have no issue attracting top-notch experienced talent. Heck, pre-cap even the Rangers managed to buy a championship, and they're the worst team in NHL history by most measures.

I know their drafting strategy of late certainly ain't helping, but there's no reason the Leaves shouldn't be able to manage at least a season or two above .500 this decade. Free agency is huge these days.

Very few teams have success just going a free agent route it just does not work any more that way in the nhl.Yes the rangers pre cap bought a team and won however look at the teams that have won post cap most have been real good at drafting and having a good farm system.Post cap you really can just buy a team like the rangers and others did pre cap sure you maybe a ok team will you be a serious contender no.

[freeweed]

I wonder what the reason(s) is/are. I like Hagman.

Complete underperformance. He's really fun to watch on the ice but just never puts the puck in nearly enough considering his apparent skill.

He's much like Husselius in that way. And also going the same way.

[Nicko999]

Since November 30, 2000 the Habs are 0-7-1 in Vancouver!!!

The Canucks are also 6-0-1 vs Eastern teams at home this season.

Roberto Luongo is also 11-0-3 at home in his last 14 games.

It doesn't look good for the Habs.:(

[Yume-sama]

Complete underperformance. He's really fun to watch on the ice but just never puts the puck in nearly enough considering his apparent skill.

He's much like Husselius in that way. And also going the same way.

I'd much rather have Huselius in general.

[Nicko999]

The entire Eastern Conference sucks against the Western Conference.

Last year the Eastern Conference consisted of one excellent team (Washington), while the rest were mediocre or downright terrible. 4 Eastern playoff teams (Ottawa, Boston, Montreal, Philadelphia) would not have made the playoffs last year if they were in the West. This year is a little different, but the East is still much worse than the West.

Looking at league standings as of today, 4 of the worst 5 and 7 of the worst 9 teams in the league belong to the Eastern Conference.

I'm sure the story may be different in a few years, but that's just the way it is right now.

That's why two Eastern Conference teams (Rangers and Habs) did shut down the Canucks. The only other team to do so is the Wild.

The worst teams are in the East, but the top 6 (or top 7) in the Eastern Conference is solid.


EDIT: I'm sorry Canucks but the best team in the NHL is in the East.

[Yume-sama]

I dunno, the 15th team in the West seems to have a very good chance of beating the 1st place team in the East on a consistent basis.

The East plays so different... it doesn't match well with a more defensive minded conference.

That's why New Jersey always was able to succeed. Philly and Boston are the only two East teams I can think of who likely wouldn't completely fail.

[Nicko999]

Either way, speaking about the last couple years the west is quite a bit different than the east. I would say there's only one truly terrible team in the west (oilers), while the east has 4 legitimately terrible clubs (Islanders, Leafs, Senators, Devils). Switch out Senators and Devils this year for Panthers and Lightning last year. I think the playoff race and just general competitiveness in any single game is a lot different if there's only one team you can reasonably expect to have an easy time playing, compared to 3-5 in the East.


Someone has no idea what's happening right now. The Devils have something like 2 or 3 regulaton losses in their last 25 games!

BY FAR the best team in the NHL right now. If they somehow manages to sneak into the playoffs they can do damage.

[LeftCoaster]

I find most of my friends from Montreal consistently over rate the Devils. Something about Brodeur always beating the habs seems eched in their memory. :cool:

Not that I am taking away from the Devils current run, but lets be serious, they are not an 18-2 calibre team, this is just long run statistics bringing the team back to where they should be which is slightly above 500.


EDIT: I'm sorry Canucks but the best team in the NHL is in the East.

I dont know how you can say philly is better when the Canucks are first in goals for, first in lowest goals against and have the best power play in the league, have the best record in the league and far better goal tending... by exactly what metric is philly better? The "you have played them more so they seem better metric"?

[You Need A Thneed]

Someone has no idea what's happening right now. The Devils have something like 2 or 3 regulaton losses in their last 25 games!

BY FAR the best team in the NHL right now. If they somehow manages to sneak into the playoffs they can do damage.

NJ is 14-1-2 in their last 17, immediately before that stretch, they had won only 1 of 11, and 2 of 16.
Calgary is 13-2-3 in their last 18.

Hardly "By FAR" the best team in the NHL right now. Lets also not forget that the Devils are still dead last in the league in goals for per game, and there's only one other team that is even close to them (ottawa).

Sports club stats had NJ still at only a 4% chance of them making the playoffs, though with another good 10 game stretch that will increase quite a bit.

[Flamesrule]

Yeah, I'd say Flames are the best in the West, and if not the best in the league. They are now 4th in scoring when they were in the bottom.

[Ayreonaut]

6th in GF, 7th in GF/G, but yeah, still an impressive turnaround.

[Nicko999]

I find most of my friends from Montreal consistently over rate the Devils. Something about Brodeur always beating the habs seems eched in their memory. :cool:

Not that I am taking away from the Devils current run, but lets be serious, they are not an 18-2 calibre team, this is just long run statistics bringing the team back to where they should be which is slightly above 500.



I dont know how you can say philly is better when the Canucks are first in goals for, first in lowest goals against and have the best power play in the league, have the best record in the league and far better goal tending... by exactly what metric is philly better? The "you have played them more so they seem better metric"?

Philly has 39 wins in 59 games
Vancouver has 38 wins in 60 games

Vancouver has the more superstars like the Sedins and Kesler but Philly has the depth. Comes playoff time, great defensive teams can shut down a few players but not the entire team.

Vancouver has 8 players with 10+ goals
Philadelphia has 9 players with 10+ goals
Vancouver has 2 players with 20+ goals
Philadephia has 3 players with 20+ goals
Vancouver has 2 players with 30+ goals

+ Philly has Pronger.

[Yume-sama]

Great game between Bruins and Flames. Too bad the Flames couldn't pull even.

I definitely wouldn't complain if this was a Stanley Cup Final preview :D

[Some guy]

Philly has 39 wins in 59 games
Vancouver has 38 wins in 60 games

Vancouver has the more superstars like the Sedins and Kesler but Philly has the depth. Comes playoff time, great defensive teams can shut down a few players but not the entire team.

Vancouver has 8 players with 10+ goals
Philadelphia has 9 players with 10+ goals
Vancouver has 2 players with 20+ goals
Philadephia has 3 players with 20+ goals
Vancouver has 2 players with 30+ goals

+ Philly has Pronger.

Don't forget, Vancouver beat Philly 6-2 when they played back in December.

[Nicko999]

Nice... a regulation win in Vancouver!!!;)

That was a typical Habs win, take a lot of penalties and make your life harder and eventually win by a goal with some awesome saves by Price.

[SpikePhanta]

Great game to watch, canucks woke up late, and had to face great Price!

Also some nicko saying the canucks have less depth? Yes we have a problematic 4th line, but our 1-3 lines, defence core (when healthy) and goal tending are pretty deep.

[Nicko999]

Great game to watch, canucks woke up late, and had to face great Price!

Also some nicko saying the canucks have less depth? Yes we have a problematic 4th line, but our 1-3 lines, defence core (when healthy) and goal tending are pretty deep.

That's just my opinion but we all agree both teams are the favorites to win the East and West.

[The_Architect]

That's just my opinion but we all agree both teams are the favorites to win the East and West.

Wait what team is the favourite to win the East??

[freeweed]

Wait what team is the favourite to win the East??

Toronto.

*filler*

[SpikePhanta]

Wait what team is the favourite to win the East??

He's replying to my post which itself was a response comparing Philly and Vancouver...

[The_Architect]

He's replying to my post which itself was a response comparing Philly and Vancouver...

Okay that makes sense.. I thought he was referring to the Habs.
I was thinking uhhh.. did Philly and Boston forfeit the season or something? :haha:

[Nicko999]

Okay that makes sense.. I thought he was referring to the Habs.
I was thinking uhhh.. did Philly and Boston forfeit the season or something? :haha:

Boston doesn't scare me... we are probably the only team in the NHL that can solve Tim Thomas.:P

In 3 games against him we scored 13 goals in 116 shots. That'a .888 sv % and a 4.28 GAA.

And what about that Eastern Conference?:D
The Habs, a Eastern Conference team, have now defeated the Canucks in regulation more often than any other team(tied with Anaheim, St-Louis and Minnesota).

The Flames couldn't solve Tim Thomas.

The Devils won a 8th straight game by shutting down the Dallas Stars.

All road wins.:tup:

[Ayreonaut]

The Devils won a 8th straight game by shutting down the Dallas Stars.

That's not much of an accomplishment, everybody's shutting down the Stars.

Phoenix goes for 9 straight tonight against the Bolts, and hopefully the Pens can take down the Sharks.
Every game is so damn important in the West right now. The Battle of LA is tonight too, I just hope it doesn't go to OT.

[Nicko999]

That's not much of an accomplishment, everybody's shutting down the Stars.

Phoenix goes for 9 straight tonight against the Bolts, and hopefully the Pens can take down the Sharks.
Every game is so damn important in the West right now. The Battle of LA is tonight too, I just hope it doesn't go to OT.

7-0 for the East after 28 minutes.;)

http://bit.ly/eswqzP

[BretttheRiderFan]

Tampa Bay-Phoenix hockey games are just sins against the human race

[mintzilla]

Tampa Bay-Phoenix hockey games are just sins against the human race

I agree with you but have to also add that any game involving Minnesota is also a sin!

[Yume-sama]

Minnesota is proof that Gary Bettman's theories of needing more goals, and excitement, to attract American hockey fans is way wrong!

And stupid Penguins, blowing their lead to the Sharks to lose in OT.

[Some guy]

A little bit of a late notification, but Tom Cruise watched the Vancouver-Montreal game on tuesday from a booth. I heard they are shooting Mission Impossible 4 in Richmond and Downtown.

Pretty sure he was cheering for the Canucks. ;)

[Yume-sama]

Tom's been in town shooting MI4 for a few months now. This thread has a few set pictures from what they've done outside (most is in studio :()
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=157672&page=5

He's staying on his own floor at the new Fairmont Pacific Rim :)

[freeweed]

A little bit of a late notification, but Tom Cruise watched the Vancouver-Montreal game on tuesday from a booth. I heard they are shooting Mission Impossible 4 in Richmond and Downtown.

Pretty sure he was cheering for the Canucks. ;)

He was more likely cheering for Xenu.

[Coldrsx]

We Want The Cup

[freeweed]

Kovalev for a 7th round pick. Yeah, that guy isn't a complete piece of shit or anything. :rolleyes:

[Yume-sama]

I'm surprised it was Pittsburgh and not Montreal.

[freeweed]

I'm surprised it was Pittsburgh and not Montreal.

Yeah, they would have given a 3rd rounder at least.

[Calgarian]

We Want The Cup

Just blow a couple more seasons, get more top draft picks and the cup is yours.

[The_Architect]

Just blow a couple more seasons, get more top draft picks and the cup is yours.

Islanders fans say what up.

[freeweed]

Islanders fans say what up.

Their cup drought isn't even 30 years yet! Heck, they're not much worse than the Flames.

[The_Architect]

Their cup drought isn't even 30 years yet! Heck, they're not much worse than the Flames.

I meant that they have tanked for a while and still are at the bottom of the league.

[Nicko999]

Brent Sopel and Nigel Dawes for Ben Maxwell + a 4th round pick!!!

Really? I don't get it! The Habs now have 11 D-men (+ injuries of course).

[freeweed]

Apparently the Habs organization has made a formal complaint to the NHL that the anthem was not sung in French during the Heritage Classic. I only wish I was kidding about this.

Let the flamewar begin! I'll start: dear Montreal - which other 28 cities sing the anthem in French? Ottawa that I'm aware of.

[Flamesrule]

Apparently the Habs organization has made a formal complaint to the NHL that the anthem was not sung in French during the Heritage Classic. I only wish I was kidding about this.

Let the flamewar begin! I'll start: dear Montreal - which other 28 cities sing the anthem in French? Ottawa that I'm aware of.

They should get over it. It's been 4 days since the Heritage. Besides, what good is it for the Habs organization to complain about that?

[Yume-sama]

They should get over it. It's been 4 days since the Heritage. Besides, what good is it for the Habs organization to complain about that?

It was in the Sun today and Paul Brandt b-slapped them back by replying saying he's proud to live in a free country where he can sing however he wants, and signed it Paul Rennée Brandt.

[BretttheRiderFan]

It was in the Sun today and Paul Brandt b-slapped them back by replying saying he's proud to live in a free country where he can sing however he wants, and signed it Paul Rennée Brandt.

Yeah no kidding

It's shit like this that gives Quebec a negative image in the minds of many ROCers

[Reesonov]

Apparently the Habs organization has made a formal complaint to the NHL that the anthem was not sung in French during the Heritage Classic. I only wish I was kidding about this.

Let the flamewar begin! I'll start: dear Montreal - which other 28 cities sing the anthem in French? Ottawa that I'm aware of.

Frankly, I think its a perfectly valid complaint. It was, if nothing else, a missed opportunity (especially considering the Habs were the visiting team) to celebrate Canada's francophone history and culture, which of course makes the Canadian experience unique, diverse, and far more interesting.

I don't understand how people can see it any differently than that.

[freeweed]

Frankly, I think its a perfectly valid complaint. It was, if nothing else, a missed opportunity (especially considering the Habs were the visiting team) to celebrate Canada's francophone history and culture, which of course makes the Canadian experience unique, diverse, and far more interesting.

I don't understand how people can see it any differently than that.

Because we don't sing the anthem in French at any other game?

I mean, I get what you're saying, but you could apply that logic to everything. Why not sing it in French at every game? Why not just broadcast French songs on the street? They're all missed opportunities in that sense.

I will say one thing - I'd personally LOVE for our teams to bring in other singers who can sing in a multitude of languages from time to time. How cool would it be to have a Canucks game where someone sings our anthem translated into Mandarin, or a Jets game in Tagalog, or something like that?

But I won't file a formal complaint at the league asking for it.

[Nicko999]

Tonight was a TYPICAL Habs game!

We scored the first goal and controlled the game before taking numerous penalties that ruined the game for us. We took 8 minor penalties .

Also some idiotic coaching by Martin... putting Old tonight when he knows the first home game after a long road trip is difficult to win.
Well... Old ended up playing 13 minutes before being pulled out. Wasn't too much of a break for Price. The funniest thing is that we actually ''won'' the game with Price in nets.:haha:

Playing Pouliot 6 minutes, Desharnais 8 minutes and Pacioretty 14 minutes is another reason why I can't stand Martin.

[Elmira Guy]

Great game Leafs!!!

[SpikePhanta]

Horrible reffing in the canucks game, and lol to St Louis commentators.

[Darkoshvilli]

The refs handed the leafs the game.

[Denscity]

Vancouver 87 points.

[Bassic Lab]

Because we don't sing the anthem in French at any other game?

I mean, I get what you're saying, but you could apply that logic to everything. Why not sing it in French at every game? Why not just broadcast French songs on the street? They're all missed opportunities in that sense.

I will say one thing - I'd personally LOVE for our teams to bring in other singers who can sing in a multitude of languages from time to time. How cool would it be to have a Canucks game where someone sings our anthem translated into Mandarin, or a Jets game in Tagalog, or something like that?

But I won't file a formal complaint at the league asking for it.

I did hear the anthem sung in Cree once at a game.

I think it would make sense to sing the bilingual anthem for games involving Montreal/Ottawa and another Canadian team. It wouldn't be about the relevancy of French in other parts of Canada or to say something about the history of Canada. It would be for the same reason the American anthem is sung when a game involves American teams, to show respect for the other city.

[The_Architect]

The refs handed the leafs the game.

Lol this post was about as much of a surprise as snow in Winnipeg.

There were equal amount of bad penalties in the game for both teams, did you watch the second period? The refs handed the Habs that period at least.

The Leafs won because they played better, Jesus Christ get over it.

[Mister F]

Lol this post was about as much of a surprise as snow in Winnipeg.

There were equal amount of bad penalties in the game, did you watch the second period? The refs handed the Habs that period at least.

The Leafs won because they played better, Jesus Christ get over it.
lol...a Canadiens fan complaining about the refs? Say it ain't so!

I'm finally getting excited about the future of the Leafs, especially after the recent trades. If this bunch of kids can step up and make a run for the playoffs now, think of what they'll be doing in 3 or 4 years. Now if only the Kessel line can keep up this pace instead of falling into the usual streak-slump pattern.

[Darkoshvilli]

I know what I saw, no point in arguing over it.

[The_Architect]

I know what I saw, no point in arguing over it.

The homer goggles are fogging up a bit. You should clean them.

[Bigtime]

Calgary Flames Trying To Keep Fact That They're A Hockey Team From Landlord

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/calgary-flames-trying-to-keep-fact-that-theyre-a-h,19317/

[The_Architect]

:haha:

tencharacters

[SHOFEAR]

Because we don't sing the anthem in French at any other game?

I mean, I get what you're saying, but you could apply that logic to everything. Why not sing it in French at every game? Why not just broadcast French songs on the street? They're all missed opportunities in that sense.

I will say one thing - I'd personally LOVE for our teams to bring in other singers who can sing in a multitude of languages from time to time. How cool would it be to have a Canucks game where someone sings our anthem translated into Mandarin, or a Jets game in Tagalog, or something like that?

But I won't file a formal complaint at the league asking for it.

From my quick search on Youtube it appears montreal doesn't sing the anthems in English when english teams are in town....A double standard when in comes to Quebec...???

[Reesonov]

^ Really? I'm very surprised by that. Indeed, I would have imagined that the Canadian anthem would be sung in both english and french at every Habs home game (just based on the very bilingual nature of that city).

Anyway, I would like to see the anthem sung in both english and french every time it is sung frankly, whether it is in Quebec or the ROC (not just at hockey games).

[reidjr]

lol...a Canadiens fan complaining about the refs? Say it ain't so!

I'm finally getting excited about the future of the Leafs, especially after the recent trades. If this bunch of kids can step up and make a run for the playoffs now, think of what they'll be doing in 3 or 4 years. Now if only the Kessel line can keep up this pace instead of falling into the usual streak-slump pattern.

While yes its good to be excited but don't get to excited the leafs have a history of trading young player and letting them walk as a ufa.For the leaf fans sake i hope there smart and don't make panic moves for now but i have a feeling 4 points out they may make a trade that sees a young player or 2 leaving.

[freeweed]

From my quick search on Youtube it appears montreal doesn't sing the anthems in English when english teams are in town....A double standard when in comes to Quebec...???

I'm pretty sure Ole is a Spanish word.

[The_Architect]

I'm pretty sure Ole is a Spanish word.

:haha: x2

[Darkoshvilli]

From my quick search on Youtube it appears montreal doesn't sing the anthems in English when english teams are in town....A double standard when in comes to Quebec...???

Don't make crap up. The anthem is sung half french half english every single game.

[frinkprof]

lol...a Canadiens fan complaining about the refs? Say it ain't so!

I'm finally getting excited about the future of the Leafs, especially after the recent trades. If this bunch of kids can step up and make a run for the playoffs now, think of what they'll be doing in 3 or 4 years. Now if only the Kessel line can keep up this pace instead of falling into the usual streak-slump pattern.The Leafs won't make the playoffs. They've been in sell mode for awhile now sending away Kaberle, Versteeg, Beauchemin and possibly more to contenders for picks and prospects. Really it's kind of funny how the media and fans hang on every word of Burke's, like when he says "we're still chasing a playoff spot" he's actually serious. All the real contenders are gearing up for the playoffs and will leave the Leafs in their dust once the trade deadline is over.

I will give Burke credit though for changing his direction and finally doing a rebuild right. Unfortunately they'll still be paying for the Kessel deal for at least another year with the division rival Bruins again using the Leafs' high first round pick in the upcoming draft. They have picked up a couple first rounders, but those will likely reside in the 25-30 range, which likely won't amount to much this year. Personally I want Toronto's pick (now belonging to Boston) to win the lottery this year, having the Bruins pick first overall so that the Leafs organization can suffer the maximum embarrassment for the Kessel deal.

[The_Architect]

The entire thing is ridiculous..
If Bill 101 is legal, then a non-bilingual province on the other side of the country doesn't have to sing the anthem in french.
Same bullshit applied back when Quebec was wining about the opening ceremonies to the Olympics, when everything was said in French before English, and it STILL wasn't "French enough".. :koko:

[Jay in Cowtown]

The entire thing is ridiculous..
If Bill 101 is legal, then a non-bilingual province on the other side of the country doesn't have to sing the anthem in french.


Exactly!

Oh sure, it probably would have been a nice gesture to throw some french words in, but it sure as hell didn't hurt my feelings. :D What's next... is one of the 17 Versus viewers going to file a complaint about the 41'000 people screaming C & Red during the Star Spangled Banner? :haha:

anyways... big game against San Jose tonight, we need the W!

[theman23]

The Leafs won't make the playoffs. They've been in sell mode for awhile now sending away Kaberle, Versteeg, Beauchemin and possibly more to contenders for picks and prospects. Really it's kind of funny how the media and fans hang on every word of Burke's, like when he says "we're still chasing a playoff spot" he's actually serious. All the real contenders are gearing up for the playoffs and will leave the Leafs in their dust once the trade deadline is over.

I will give Burke credit though for changing his direction and finally doing a rebuild right. Unfortunately they'll still be paying for the Kessel deal for at least another year with the division rival Bruins again using the Leafs' high first round pick in the upcoming draft. They have picked up a couple first rounders, but those will likely reside in the 25-30 range, which likely won't amount to much this year. Personally I want Toronto's pick (now belonging to Boston) to win the lottery this year, having the Bruins pick first overall so that the Leafs organization can suffer the maximum embarrassment for the Kessel deal.

:haha:
No way Bruins are picking first this year. Leafs are 4 points out with 20 games left to play. This team is in the playoff race.

[freeweed]

What's next... is one of the 17 Versus viewers going to file a complaint about the 41'000 people screaming C & Red during the Star Spangled Banner? :haha:

This is, hands down, my FAVOURITE part of Flames games this season. Do folks outside of Calgary even know what we're talking about? :D

[Calgarian]

This is, hands down, my FAVOURITE part of Flames games this season. Do folks outside of Calgary even know what we're talking about? :D

Too bad we copied Dallas.

Should be a good game tonight, here's hoping the Flames can keep up their winning ways.

[freeweed]

Too bad we copied Dallas.

That's part of what makes it so great. It's a bit of mockery rolled into the cheering.

[bulliver]

This is, hands down, my FAVOURITE part of Flames games this season. Do folks outside of Calgary even know what we're talking about? :D

I do, but then I get to see a lot of Flames games on Sportsnet West...

[Elmira Guy]

The refs handed the leafs the game.

Of course they did! Isn't that the reason every time the Habs lose any game?

Oh wait. There's also; the ice was in bad shape, the pre-game meal was undercooked ...

[reidjr]

The Leafs won't make the playoffs. They've been in sell mode for awhile now sending away Kaberle, Versteeg, Beauchemin and possibly more to contenders for picks and prospects. Really it's kind of funny how the media and fans hang on every word of Burke's, like when he says "we're still chasing a playoff spot" he's actually serious. All the real contenders are gearing up for the playoffs and will leave the Leafs in their dust once the trade deadline is over.

I will give Burke credit though for changing his direction and finally doing a rebuild right. Unfortunately they'll still be paying for the Kessel deal for at least another year with the division rival Bruins again using the Leafs' high first round pick in the upcoming draft. They have picked up a couple first rounders, but those will likely reside in the 25-30 range, which likely won't amount to much this year. Personally I want Toronto's pick (now belonging to Boston) to win the lottery this year, having the Bruins pick first overall so that the Leafs organization can suffer the maximum embarrassment for the Kessel deal.

I think the leafs will make the play offs as for doing the rebuild right time will tell very few teams have had success the way the leafs have gone.

[Darkoshvilli]

Of course they did! Isn't that the reason every time the Habs lose any game?

Nah, just happens more often when we play you.

[-Harlington-]

that montreal toronto game last night was one of the worst refereed games ive seen in a very long time

bad calls and non calls for both teams but mostly against montreal


also, i predicted at the start of the year that the leafs would end up in ninth, i stand by that prediction

[The_Architect]

Nah, just happens more often when we play you.

Pretty sure the fact that you lose to us is why the "refs" are to blame every time.

For anyone not a Habs fan, that game was poorly officiated against both teams.

[Darkoshvilli]

bad calls and non calls for both teams but mostly against montreal
Glad im not the only one who can see here.

[Flamesrule]

I watched the game, and by the looks of it both teams got bad calls.


Come on, it seems like every time the Habs win, the refs give them the game, but when they lose, it's the refs fault?

They aren't Peewee refs.

[frinkprof]

:haha:
No way Bruins are picking first this year. Leafs are 4 points out with 20 games left to play. This team is in the playoff race.

I think the leafs will make the play offs as for doing the rebuild right time will tell very few teams have had success the way the leafs have gone.The Leafs won't make the playoffs and they (or at least their pick) will probably end up in the draft lottery. They have traded away most of the veteran talent they had. You don't make the playoffs with guys like Tyler Bozak, Tim Brent, Joey Crabb and Keith Aulie taking regular shifts every night.

[Coldrsx]

"Tyler Bozak, Tim Brent, Joey Crabb and Keith Aulie"

I can honestly say I have never heard these names before

[frinkprof]

"Tyler Bozak, Tim Brent, Joey Crabb and Keith Aulie"

I can honestly say I have never heard these names beforeHow could you not? They're currently living the dream playing for Canada's team.