[Nicko999]

Boston-Montreal tonight... we remember what happened last game!!!

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[Nicko999]

well it looks like PK Subban messed up Brad Marchand's brain... really hard.

Of course the Bruins are angels... after all they continue punching even when the opponent is down. REALLY CLASSY!

“They like to get in and shoot their mouths of and then when you hit them they’ll dive down and fall easy,” Marchand said of the Canadiens, who lead the season series between the teams 3-1.

Well okay, then.

And if the Habs or their fans are upset about the treatment reserved for non-combatants Jaroslav Spacek and Tom Pyatt, who found themselves tangling with beefier Boston opponents in the final stages of that game.

“They stir the pot, and they got what they deserved . . . whatever anyone’s mad about, they can suck it up, it’s not our fault,” said Marchand, who also loosed a few verbal barbs at his old World Junior teammate P.K. Subban, saying “he just likes to take runs at guys”

You got what you deserve too POS!!!
-_BStkVC_zQ

[Nicko999]

Chara has to be suspended FOR THE SEASON...

Criminal charges will follow... Pacioretty still unconscious on the ice after 10 min.

That was one of the dirtiest play IN NHL HISTORY!!! Very close with Bertuzzi.

EDIT: From CKAC, Pacioretty regained consciousness during the ambulance ride to the hospital.
What a relief!!!

[ErickMontreal]

Don Cherry will be glad of it, same goes with Milbury.

Those clowns will find a proper way to discredit Pacioretty.

[artvandelay]

Not really an illegal hit per se, it's not Chara's fault that there's extra glass there. Hopefully Pacioretty makes a speedy recovery, but if that hit is anywhere else on the ice it's totally fine.

Here's a video:
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[Yume-sama]

Yeah, that really wasn't a dirty / hard hit at all. Unfortunate to happen, but probably only a game misconduct because it happened to a Hab.

With something that dumb even being there I'm surprised it hasn't happened many times before.

Bit of an over reaction, Mr. Nicko :P Hard to compare it to Bertuzzi when there's no malicious intent, and it was barely a hit.

I actually fail to see how it's even a penalty at all. A 5 minute major for "interference" lol wat.

[Darkoshvilli]

Hopefully Pacs will be ok. And hopefully Chara doesn't leave town in one piece. Wishful thinking, I know. I'd throw a rock at the fucker myself if I saw him.

[-Harlington-]

The only dirty part was the interference, the puck was nowhere near the play

and the hit itself was unnecessary and excessive

he just might not have been able to slow down, maybe a game or two suspension if that.

[Darkoshvilli]

Gotta love Lucic looking for a fight with 1 minute left after seeing an opposing player nearly die. What do they feed these maniacs in Boston?

[Reesonov]

Really hope that Pacioretty has a full and quick recovery. I'm a Habs fan and I honestly don't seen anything on that replay from which to infer an intent to injure. Just as easily explained by stupidity on Chara's part (not paying attention to the fact that puck was gone, not realizing where he was along the boards...). No real "similar fact evidence" from Chara's past to infer that he is that type of player, no?

[MrOilers]

Chara's hit was interference at worst. It just happened at a spot where the glass and boards get all weird and can't-spell-his-name hit them hard and awkwardly. I hope he's ok, but there shouldn't be a suspension here.

There was no boarding, no charging, and no roughing (he barely hit him, more directed him). Both were skating a full speed, kind of a bang-bang play.

Reckless? Yeah. You have to be careful in that area of the boards. Suspension worthy? I don't think so. If it happened on the other side of the ice, it would've been a nothing play.

[Denscity]

Vancouver ot winner! 95 points!!

[You Need A Thneed]

Yeah, it was interference, but there shouldn't be a suspension. Hope paccioretty is fine.

[Some guy]

Vancouver ot winner! 95 points!!

And the Sedins combined for 6 points!:banana: You know what that means . . . :upload_71700:

[Nicko999]

Call me crazy but I think he did on purpose...

Remember this play back in January? Pacioretty pushed Chara after scoring the OT winner.
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He didn't see the glass, really? He's fucking looking in that direction.
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I don't care what you guys say... Chara should be suspended for a long, long time.
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[NetMapel]

I have to say, after watching the highlight video on TSN, that looks like a pretty malicious push by Chara. Hard to believe that he didn't know about the extra glass there. Plus, there seems to be some history between the two players...

[The Chemist]

I have to say, after watching the highlight video on TSN, that looks like a pretty malicious push by Chara. Hard to believe that he didn't know about the extra glass there. Plus, there seems to be some history between the two players...

I agree. It looked pretty vicious to me. Chara better get suspended for it, especially given what happened between those two in a previous game, suggesting malicious intent.

[Nicko999]

I dare anyone to say he didn't see the stantion...

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/592/254939843.jpg

[Reesonov]

^ That photo is certainly looks like damning evidence. However, I don't think its very fair to be honest. That play happened very quickly. That photo might give one the impression that Chara was focused on the stantion for a long period of time, when in fact it may have only been for that one instant that the photo was taken (and clearly when it was already too late). I don't know. I just don't think that photo is conclusive of anything. I'm glad that I'm not the one who has to decide on how to discipline Chara for that play.

[Bassic Lab]

^ That photo is certainly looks like damning evidence. However, I don't think its very fair to be honest. That play happened very quickly. That photo might give one the impression that Chara was focused on the stantion for a long period of time, when in fact it may have only been for that one instant that the photo was taken (and clearly when it was already too late). I don't know. I just don't think that photo is conclusive of anything. I'm glad that I'm not the one who has to decide on how to discipline Chara for that play.

Yeah, from what I've seen it looks like Chara hit Pacioretty when he should not have and in a manner he should not have. That said, I'm not sure if there was an intent to injure as he did. It would probably be too much to say with certainty that he meant to drive Pacioretty's head into the stantion. Some kind of punishment is called for but I just don't know what degree.

[mr.John]

Anyone remember the strike a few years back? when you had players acting like they were all brothers, what's happened since? how many dirty checks into the boards have we seen, not only are these goons out to injure their fellow players but they're actually trying to end their careers...welcome to Bettman's NHL the biggest joke in professional sports, PS where's Sidney Crosby

[You Need A Thneed]

I dare anyone to say he didn't see the stantion...

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/592/254939843.jpg

He didn't see the stanchion. It's a quick moving game, plus he's not thinking about how he's in the one rink in the league that has a different glass setup right at that part of the ice.

[SHOFEAR]

Holy shit. That Hab got LIT up.

[Yume-sama]

He didn't see the stanchion. It's a quick moving game, plus he's not thinking about how he's in the one rink in the league that has a different glass setup right at that part of the ice.

Pretty much this.

There will PROBABLY be a suspension based on two primary factors;

1) Who it was against
2) The outcome

But really, there's nothing even suspension worthy about it. It's a questionable penalty, even. It was not even a hit, it was barely even a push.

It was a play that happens dozens of times per game along the boards~

[-Harlington-]

Update on Max Pacioretty



Wednesday, 09.03.2011 / 12:30 PM / News


MONTREAL – Jacques Martin met with the Montreal media after practice on Wednesday to give an update on Max Pacioretty’s condition after the young winger left Tuesday’s game following a hit by Zdneo Chara.

“Max Pacioretty has a severe concussion, as well as a fracture of the fourth cervical vertebrae, but it's not displaced,” explained Martin. “Max will remain at the hospital for further observation. There will be no other prognosis for the time being, but he will obviously be out indefinitely. The most important thing for our organization right now is Max’s recovery. We will continue following recommendations from the doctors and of course, Max and his immediate family would appreciate privacy in this matter.”

[MrOilers]

This is one of my biggest pet peeves regarding the NHL...Cooke hits Savard in the temple with his elbow and nothing results, yet non-intent incidents like this tend to get cracked down on.

I am fine with a 2 game suspension just to tell players to be careful in that area of the ice. Like I said earlier, if that exact same bump happened 4 feet in either direction, nothing would've happened. Really, both players made a good hockey play, but it happened near the worst possible area on the boards.

[Bigtime]

No fine or suspension for Chara:

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357209

What's the over/under on Montreal rioting? Next game versus Boston is the 24th (in Boston). That could be very interesting.

[You Need A Thneed]

No fine or suspension for Chara.

What's the over/under on Montreal rioting? Next game versus Boston is the 24th. That could be very interesting.

I think it depends on the Canadiens organization. They could easily diffuse everything by stating that they didn't thin the hit was dirty.

[MrOilers]

I imagine that next time Boston and Montreal play, Chara will have to fight someone.

I'm hoping Subban pulls the short straw.

[SHOFEAR]

whoa. The NHL got this right.

[ErickMontreal]

This is a bush league decision.

Any wonder why NHL is ranked between high-school cricket and middle school curling down south!

[Nicko999]

Wow, just realized how dumb some people are (two people I won't name)...

Let's see how you react when this happens to Eberle next time.
OMG... Eberle's career is over!!! That was sooo exciting to see.:no:

And people really think it was accidental?:haha: We're talking about the BOSTON BRUINS... the dirtiest team in NHL history BY FAR!!!

They don't win games... they try to injure the opponent to get an advantage. They are also the biggest cheaters in the NHL (Colin Campbell, Gregory Campbell).

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A few reasons why the hit was NOT accidental

1. Those kind of things might happen accidentely a few times a year. However, strange it has to happen against the Bruins.
2. It happened with 15 seconds left to the period... of course the game we already over. Why doesn't this happens at 1-0 or even 2-0?
3. Out of the 40 players... IT WAS CHARA AND PACIORETTY. Chara went after Pacioretty back in January.

Add those things together and it's not a coincidence, it's a criminal offense.

[Nicko999]

MONTREAL -- A push in January came to a shove in March. And for a few minutes on Tuesday night, there were some in the stunned crowd of 21,273 that thought Montreal Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty might be dead.

The result is that the 22-year-old is in the hospital with a severe concussion and a non-displaced cervical fracture of the fourth vertebra. In this glum 2010-11 NHL season, there is a concussion that actually represents good news.

On the seventh anniversary of Todd Bertuzzi's criminal assault on Steve Moore -- if you are of fan or symmetry, you will recall that Moore, who never played hockey again, sustained a concussion and non-displaced fractures of the third and fourth cervical vertebrae -- Boston Bruins defenseman Zdeno Chara shoved Pacioretty into the padded stanchion that separates the benches in the Bell Centre. Pacioretty's head hit what Canadiens goalie Carey Price would later call "the turnbuckle," and Pacioretty snapped backward, falling to the ice like a Raggedy Ann doll. The puck was not even in the same postal code at this particularly horrifying moment, having skittered 60 feet ahead of the play into the Montreal offensive zone with about 16 seconds left in the second period.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_farber/03/09/max.pacioretty.zdeno.chara.hit/index.html#ixzz1G8u22sNr

[Yume-sama]

I'm really shocked the NHL had the balls to not do anything, with all of Montreal playing it up like it's the worst thing to ever happen, despite the fact it was a nothing play with an unfortunate ending.

But would 2 - 3 games even be enough to appease them? Probably not.

They did get it right. It's unfortunate it ended the way it did, but it was *not* a suspendable play, it was barely even a penalty.

And yes, Pacioretty had just 2.5 seconds before *played* the puck, so that's a bit of a lie that it was nowhere near him. He didn't have it, but he was the last player to touch it.

And since you excel in selective bolding and are holding his word up to be some sort of authority, let me bold a passage from further down the article :P

This was exactly the kind of play that occurs in every game -- a defenseman, beaten by a stride, trying to ride a forward off the puck

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_farber/03/09/max.pacioretty.zdeno.chara.hit/index.html#ixzz1G8y29ZZx

[Urban_Genius]

It was an dumb, careless play on Chara's part. Not malicious, but the end result was very bad obviously. You need to be smarter than that if you're Chara. And yes, he knew exactly where and what he was doing.

[MrOilers]

Most fans get really pissed when one of their players nearly gets decapitated. But objectively, this play was a freak accident involving someone who is a stand up guy who doesn't need to be punished.

And the only part of the play that made it illegal was that it was interference.

As an Oilers fan I have no dog in this fight. I'm just calling it exactly as I see it.

[Ayreonaut]

Definitely nothing worthy of suspension. Not at all surprised by the exorbitant overreaction by a certain Habs fan though. It was a dangerous play, but very likely unintentional; I'm on the 'NHL got it right' side.

[SHOFEAR]

Most fans get really pissed when one of their players nearly gets decapitated. But objectively, this play was a freak accident involving someone who is a stand up guy who doesn't need to be punished.

And the only part of the play that made it illegal was that it was interference.

As an Oilers fan I have no dog in this fight. I'm just calling it exactly as I see it.



It's like when Marchment got checked into an open door in Dallas's bench in 97 or 98. When you look at it subjectively, it's unfortunate, not dirty.


am I seeing that right though....Nobody stood up and challenged Chara after? Just about any significant hit (clean or dirty) now leads to a scrap now...nothing?

[Yume-sama]

Do the Habs even have an enforcer? The biggest man on the ice was Scott Gomez :P

[LeftCoaster]

Good for the NHL, for once they made the right call.

[-Harlington-]

I think a one or two game suspension should have been in order to address the carelessness and slight stupidity
I doubt it was intentional but he should be punished in a small way

[Ayreonaut]

I think a one or two game suspension should have been in order to address the carelessness and slight stupidity
I doubt it was intentional but he should be punished in a small way

I wouldn't have argued that, but the calls for a rest-of-season suspension are a bit much.

[Alexcaban]

Definitely nothing worthy of suspension. Not at all surprised by the exorbitant overreaction by a certain Habs fan though. It was a dangerous play, but very likely unintentional; I'm on the 'NHL got it right' side.

I bet you'd be think differently if it was a player on your team that got his head smashed in the boards.

The point is this type of play should not be allowed in the game and the NHL not giving punishments for this is like saying they want it to happen until some dies.

[MrOilers]

The point is this type of play should not be allowed in the game and the NHL not giving punishments for this is like saying they want it to happen until some dies.

What "type of play"?

Just look at the replay. Chara isn't even looking at the boards, the divider, or the player. He's following where the puck is going, and he just tried to rub the guy into the boards and take him out of the play. If the league disallows that play, then they might as well outlaw all body contact.

The outcome was absolutely awful, no question. But I'd say the penalty and game misconduct was punishment enough.

[feepa]

how the NHL figured out the suspension / lack there of one

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[Ayreonaut]

I bet you'd be think differently if it was a player on your team that got his head smashed in the boards.

The point is this type of play should not be allowed in the game and the NHL not giving punishments for this is like saying they want it to happen until some dies.

Langkow may never play again, maybe we should ban slap shots while we're at it. :rolleyes:

[Nicko999]

There is a difference between an old guy who has 2 or 3 years left of hockey and a 22 years old kid who played like a power forward (which we haven't had in years).

Aside from the obvious concern for the health of a young man that turned 22 on Nov. 20, the loss of Pacioretty will have major consequences for the Canadiens on the ice.

In his last 20 games, Pacioretty had 11 goals and 6 assists to lead the Canadiens in both goals and points over that span.

"He added another dimension to our team," Martin said. "It wasn't only his speed, but he played a very direct game. He did very good work around the net and in front of the goalie. He was strong on our power play. But it gives an opportunity to someone else in our lineup to seize that chance.

If this is allowed, let's eliminate all players from the opposing teams and let's just pretend: "We didn't see the divider". That would be great!!!

“It makes your guts hurt,” goaltender Carey Price said. “I’m pretty sure (Chara) was aware. If you look at the replay, it happened kind of slowly. He took three or four strides for it to happen. That’s a lot of time to see what’s going to happen.

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/Shock+pain+Habs+dressing+room+over+Pacioretty/4412710/story.html#ixzz1G9XE5PAi

[LeftCoaster]

So its ok to injure an old guy, but not a young habs prospect?

You dont even attempt to hide your bias do you?

[Alexcaban]

What "type of play"?

Just look at the replay. Chara isn't even looking at the boards, the divider, or the player. He's following where the puck is going, and he just tried to rub the guy into the boards and take him out of the play. If the league disallows that play, then they might as well outlaw all body contact.

The outcome was absolutely awful, no question. But I'd say the penalty and game misconduct was punishment enough.

What type of play:haha::haha: lord you are just precious. Head injuries!

Chara had pushed Pacioretty's face right toward the glass partition! If it were a check, or a block, then this could have been just simply an interference call, but he used his HAND to push Pacioretty's face.

[Nicko999]

Yes, I am heavily bias on that hit because it's Chara and the Boston Bruins!

Pacioretty laughing at Chara's face and giving him a shove in an awesome habs comeback: check!

Chara going after Pacioretty the following game, showing some anger towards him: check!

Pacioretty laying some nice hits in a game where the bruins have no chance of coming back: check

Chara is not upset and doesn't want to punish Pacioretty at all: um..... check

I hope that's a joke?
Twitter: HabsWatch
Pacioretty's career now in danger. Broken neck (C4-C5). If not for the excellent response by medical staff, could've been paralyzed

[Yume-sama]

lol I find it funny that in the very post before this happened you were relishing the fact that PK Subban went after Brad Marchand, and you said that the "little POS deserved it".

Then, you chain together a series of completely unrelated incidents at the time to create some form of intent to injure where there clearly was none.

Forever amusing :P

I would say the video you posted (which is below, in case you forgot) shows far more intent to injure on PK Subban's part (as he is purposely lining him up for a huge hit) than anything Chara did.

-_BStkVC_zQ

But in the end, both plays are legal, aren't they~

I'm pretty sure no matter the division rivals you could pull together an event *somewhere* that shows why someone may want to purposely hurt someone. Doesn't make it true, or anything more than imagined.

[Nicko999]

I think you're not understanding the difference between a good clean hit and a potentially deadly push.

[Yume-sama]

Any hit is potentially deadly. What if Marchand hit his head on the ice :P?

At least you came around to admitting it was a "push" and not a vicious hit.

Anyways, it really doesn't matter anymore. Hopefully Pacioretty recovers, and it doesn't happen to anyone again.

[Jay in Cowtown]

What's the over/under on Montreal rioting?

Rock bands getting too fucked up to go on stage makes those people riot... so probably pretty good. :D

Just saw "the hit" by the way... it gave me a headache just watching it!

[Nicko999]

This a quote from Colin Campbell back in 2010 when suspending Ovechkin.

"If you cause a player to be injured, then you have to be responsible for the play that you're involved in."

Judging by Pacioretty's injuries, season ending suspension isn't overreacting at all.

[Yume-sama]

Well, Colin Campbell didn't make the decision here, and that would be a dangerous precedent to set.

You'd no longer be allowed to hit, or shoot a puck. How many people get broken bones because of slapshots? Should we suspend players who shoot pucks?

Responsibility can mean different things. He received a 5 minute major (probably 3 minutes too much), and had to have a call with the league.

So yes, he was held responsible for the interference on the play, which is the only illegal act he committed in the eyes of all of the league officials, on ice and off.

[freeweed]

Chara has to be suspended FOR THE SEASON...

Criminal charges will follow... Pacioretty still unconscious on the ice after 10 min.

That was one of the dirtiest play IN NHL HISTORY!!! Very close with Bertuzzi.

Posted for sheer hilarity value.

If Max wasn't injured at all, no one in their right mind would even be thinking the word "suspension", let alone "criminal charges". Seriously, wtf? Bertuzzi was a pre-meditated, obvious attempt to pretty much beat the shit out of a guy. Chara was doing what players have done in every single NHL game in history, wiping a guy out along the boards. They were nowhere near the stanchion as they first approached it and it was only really, really shitty luck that he even got injured, let alone this badly. 6 inches in either direction and this wouldn't have even been a penalty most nights.

But wow, did I ever need a good hard laugh today (just finally catching up on SSP), thanks for providing it! :haha:

[freeweed]

You'd no longer be allowed to hit, or shoot a puck. How many people get broken bones because of slapshots? Should we suspend players who shoot pucks?

One and done. No further comment on this issue is really useful, because this is exactly it - you CANNOT officiate solely based on injuries. It's just sheer stupidity to even think that way. What's next, suspending guys who cause injury during practice? Or who hurt their own players? Because both happen all the time (hello, Ian White!).

Edit: thanks to feepa for posting that, it's one of my favourite hockey jokes of all time (Damn it, Pronger! makes me laugh every time). Also, I should point out that I'm far from a Chara fan. I've always said the guy is a bit too goony for my liking. I watched him for years when he played for the Sens and he pissed me off more often than not. I always wondered when he'd be called on the carpet for his style of play - although a lot of it has to do with his sheer size: things he does end up much worse than your average player doing it. Then again, I also remember him getting into a fight with LeCavlier (of all people!) many years ago and Chara very deliberately held his punch. He's most certainly NOT the type of guy to go out and take pleasure in hurting other players.

[Nicko999]

But what if Pacioretty dies on the ice? Chara is still the innocent guy? A stronger impact and Chara is charged with murder and never plays in the NHL again!

Oups I shot someone but it was only an accident.:rolleyes:

"I thought it was a dirty play. I thought he knew exactly what he was doing," said Vancouver Canucks forward Tanner Glass. "It's unfortunate that a player got hurt that way."

"I think if you poll 700 NHL players, a good majority are going to say he knows exactly what he was doing and he knows the turnbuckle's there."

[Yume-sama]

lol continuing this discussion is pointless. Pacioretty is alive, be happy about it.

[LeftCoaster]

But what if Pacioretty dies on the ice? Chara is still the innocent guy? A stronger impact and Chara is charged with murder and never plays in the NHL again!

Oups I shot someone but an accident.:rolleyes:

Your ability to draw an analogy or reason rationally is so poor. Please promise me you will never persue a career in law.

[Coldrsx]

Go oil... Get that pick!

[Nicko999]

Yea, it's been such a relief the see reports he able to move after he regained consciousness. The habs have class unlike a certain team that makes me want to vomit.

Let's win every single remaining game for Pacioretty. We showed yesterday we had more speed, more skill and more heart.

And :haha: to those who wants to see Subban fight. We're without Makov, Gorges, Spacek and now Pacioretty.

Would the Flames want to see Regehr fight if Bouwmeester, Babchuk and Giordano were out?

We just have to use our speed and we'll be very hard to beat. 5 straight wins now... undefeated since the Sopel trade.:D

[Ayreonaut]

Would the Flames want to see Regehr fight if Bouwmeester, Babchuk and Giordano were out?


Regehr isn't a rookie mouthpiece, what reason would people have to want him to fight?

[MrOilers]

But what if Pacioretty dies on the ice? Chara is still the innocent guy?

Chara is not innocent. He received a penalty and got ejected from the game (probably because the refs knew someone on the Habs would Bertuzzi him if he was allowed on the ice again).

And if Pacioretty got killed on that play, it would be an even larger tragedy. But players sustain serious injuries all the time. And injury doesn't determine whether the play deserves a suspension or not.

It was an interference penalty, but it was not a dirty play. The only people who think it is seem to be Habs fans. But they are like that.

[Nicko999]

Chara is not innocent. He received a penalty and got ejected from the game (probably because the refs knew someone on the Habs would Bertuzzi him if he was allowed on the ice again).

And if Pacioretty got killed on that play, it would be an even larger tragedy. But players sustain serious injuries all the time. And injury doesn't determine whether the play deserves a suspension or not.

It was an interference penalty, but it was not a dirty play. The only people who think it is seem to be Habs fans. But they are like that.

Really?

I would give him five games. Clearly interference and reckless to hit him there. I don't think their was intent to injure, but I am a Bruins fan.

Bruins fan hoping for a chara suspension. What a dumb dirty play. Disgusting.

Rangers fan
Absolutely brutal, Pacioretty could be paralyzed and I wouldn't be surprised. Chara is going to get a really long suspension.

Bruins fan
Chara definitely should be suspended for that hit.

Flyers fan
No, only Boston fans are who cares. Having seen the hit, it reminds me way to much of what happened to Brad Marsh, and I hope Chara never plays another hockey game again.

Dude, from a SENS fan living in Vancouver, that was a ****ing brutally dirty play. It's just an opinion mind you but damn, if Chara wasn't aware that the stanchion was right there, he's moron.

and can continue but I won't...
Bottom line is that's a the dirtiest hit I've seen and Chara will never play another game in Montreal(unless he hires several body guards).

AS LONG AS THE MONTREAL CANADIENS EXIST, THE BOSTON BRUINS WILL NEVER EVER WIN A STANLEY CUP.

[Yume-sama]

lol whatever helps you sleep at night.

[ErickMontreal]

It was an interference penalty, but it was not a dirty play. The only people who think it is seem to be Habs fans. But they are like that.


Zdeno Chara hit on Max Pacioretty difficult to defend
By Tony Massarotti, Boston.com Staff, March 9, 2011 07:37 AM
BOSTON GLOBE

Let us begin with the simple fact that Zdeno Chara had every intention of running Max Pacioretty into, as Carey Price called it "the turnbuckle." What Chara did not expect was for Pacioretty to clip the glass the way he did, his head struck at such a frightening angle that Pacioretty was carried away on a stretcher..

http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/massarotti/

[Nicko999]

PACIORETTY TELLS TSN HE IS 'DISGUSTED' AT LACK OF SUSPENSION

Montreal Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty spoke to TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie from his hospital room on Wednesday evening about the injury that he suffered against the Boston Bruins on Tuesday night.

"I am upset and disgusted that the league didn't think enough of (the hit) to suspend him," Pacioretty told TSN. "I'm not mad for myself, I'm mad because if other players see a hit like that and think it's okay, they won't be suspended, then other players will get hurt like I got hurt."

"It's been an emotional day. I saw the video for the first time this morning. You see the hit, I've got a fractured vertebrae, I'm in hospital and I thought the league would do something, a little something. I'm not talking a big number, I don't know, one game, two games, three games...whatever, but something to show that it's not right."

"I heard (Chara) said he didn't mean to do it. I felt he did mean to do it. I would feel better if he said he made a mistake and that he was sorry for doing that, I could forgive that, but I guess he's talking about how I jumped up or something."

"I believe he was trying to guide my head into the turnbuckle. We all know where the turnbuckle is. It wasn't a head shot like a lot of head shots we see but I do feel he targeted my head into the turnbuckle."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357316

[Yume-sama]

I'm sure he is, but he should keep his mouth shut about it. Savard, Bergeron, etc. kept quiet about a hit that actually had some malicious intent.

[SpikePhanta]

Hopefully his play isn't affected, we lost the real naslund when Moore hit him, which of course led to the incident we all know of.

[Yume-sama]

Hopefully his play isn't affected, we lost the real naslund when Moore hit him, which of course led to the incident we all know of.

I wonder how many Habs would have to jump on Chara's back to bring him down~

[Ayreonaut]

I wonder how many Habs would have to jump on Chara's back to bring him down~

Given the size of the team, probably the third and fourth lines.

[Yume-sama]

Oh look. Another first NHL goal against the Flames tonight.

[Ayreonaut]

Ah, I should have known not to get too excited about a 3-goal lead.

[Yume-sama]

BTW for context in the situation, Johnson was not suspended or fined for this hit on Ryan Smyth which actually had, by far, more intent.

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Not intent to injure, but, intent to actually hit the guy.

[Ayreonaut]

OMG! Johnson should have been suspended for life!!!1111!!1!!!1!

[MichaelS]

OMG! Johnson should have been suspended for life!!!1111!!1!!!1!

Or charged with attempted murder! :rolleyes:

[Ayreonaut]

God, is Dallas trying to get to OT again? Every time I see the results of a Stars game it was a 3-pointer.

[Yume-sama]

The boards in Dallas are ridiculous. As is the ref getting in the way of a clearing 7 times tonight.

[mr.John]

I'm sure he is, but he should keep his mouth shut about it. Savard, Bergeron, etc. kept quiet about a hit that actually had some malicious intent.

I wonder if you were lying on a hospital bed with a broken neck you would be shooting off your mouth tough guy

[Yume-sama]

Probably, instead of picking up the phone to whine to Bob McKenzie. Wait until he reads Bobs article in which he says he doesn't think it was a "dirty" hit.

Another 3 point game :( Dallas and Flames in OT.

[Ayreonaut]

Well at least we got the extra point.

[freeweed]

But what if Pacioretty dies on the ice? Chara is still the innocent guy?

Yes. Unless you honestly think Ian White should have been charged with murder if Langkow died from a slapshot to the neck. INJURIES, SOMETIMES SERIOUS, HAPPEN FROM INNOCENT PLAYS.

[Yume-sama]

Sick goal by Ribeiro :P Since when is he good.

Nice to see Flames win again. Sucks Stars got a point. Sucks even more we have to play Coyotes tomorrow!!

[freeweed]

AS LONG AS THE MONTREAL CANADIENS EXIST, THE BOSTON BRUINS WILL NEVER EVER WIN A STANLEY CUP.

You've just cemented my pick for team to root for in the East, thanks! :tup: :haha:

[freeweed]

Sick win for the Flames. This entire run started with a S/O winner in Dallas, and continues with another. The team is now 1 point away from a guaranteed .500 season - nowhere near in the playoffs yet, but MILES beyond where I thought they'd end up.

PS: Is there something screwy with the new code on SSP? Some kind of Javascript or something keeps locking up my browser for several seconds whenever I type in the text box. Not happening on any other site that I can see.

[The_Architect]

Wow no internet for 2 days and I come back to this..
Though the extra reading was pretty funny.. :haha:

The incident was unfortunate, but not dirty. Reckless, if anything, and interference. He got exactly what he deserved (Chara), and doesn't deserve a suspension, let alone a rest-of-season and criminal charges..

But of course habs fans need to do their typical overreaction to anything against their team, especially when it was Boston (who is definitely not the dirtiest in the NHL). Pretty sure if it was a hit by a Habs player on a Boston player (if any habs player could hit, that is), it wouldn't have been suspension worthy at all, in fact it probably would have been OMFG TEH BEST HIT EVAR! POS!

Hope he is okay and will recover, but the NHL surprisingly made the right move with this one..

[The_Architect]

You've just cemented my pick for team to root for in the East, thanks! :tup: :haha:

x 2! :haha:

[Some guy]

how the NHL figured out the suspension / lack there of one

http://thepuckdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/4093950458_03e4645497_o1.gif

The last 5 or so pages have been very sad and gritty so I decided to repost this. I cried from laughter when I first read it.

[MrOilers]

Really?

I take it back. It's not only Habs fans who think it was a dirty hit.

Just the vast majority of people who think it was a bad hit are Habs fans... and a few others here and there agree.

[Reesonov]

As I've said, I think its difficult to say that Chara intended to injure Pacioretty. That being said, I completely understand why Habs fans are upset. Any fanbase would be.

[GoflamesGo]

Someone shoudl start a poll. Was the Chara hit a suspendable offence?

[Yume-sama]

If we were to believe polls conducted by the NHL, every Canadien would be on the all star team.

Why you think they had to disable fan voting this year and do it this way :P

[Nicko999]

Well, the Chara/Pacioretty incident overshadowed a big game coming up tommorow... against the St-Louis and Halak.

From now on, it's win every game for Max!!!

[Flamesrule]

lol, you believe that the Canadiens are the best team in the league, don't you Nicko?


Also, I think the hit was fine, of course, he didn't mean to him him in the Stachion, and besides the check itself was dirty. The only penalty he could get was a interference call, but even that you can argue that it wasn't a interference call.

[reidjr]

I understand habs fans beeing upset but calling 911 which alot did do come on get a grip.

[SHOFEAR]

I'm going to have to dig up my old Bruins jersey from my parents basement and stick Chara's name on the back.

[The_Architect]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hysteria

[Calgarian]

Chara got exactly what he deserved, he was simply angling Pacioretty out, and unfortunately Paccioretty's head hit the stanchion. Hockey is a physical sport, and when you get checked into the boards, sometimes you hit the glass, sometimes you go over the boards, sometimes you catch the door, and sometimes you catch the end stanchion. There's no way to avoid something like this unless you take the boards out, and we all know that isn't going to happen.