[freeweed]

I really hope the Flames make it into the 8th and final playoff spot. They'd be easy pickings for the Canucks.

I kinda do to. I remember what happened last time these 2 teams met in the playoffs (first round, too). :banana:

[jlousa]

Guys don't feed the troll.

[The_Architect]

Sweet, did this double his numbers for the year? :haha:

Seriously though, I typed this comment and then had to check. He so far has 7. Yes, 7. :haha:

I'm only really posting because at last night's Flames game there was a guy in a Phaneuf jersey, except he had taken white tape and written the words "sucks" under his name. :haha:

You'd probably see the same with Stajan jerseys here, except nobody buys Stajan jerseys.. :haha:

Seriously though, Phaneuf didn't have a good start, and then was sidelined by his leg injury, and took a bit of time to recover from it.. But, like the Leafs in general, he's been playing a LOT better since the all-star break, and has really grown into his role as captain on the team.

Quite the far cry from "locker room poison", eh? ;)

[The_Architect]

Guys don't feed the troll.

Who's the troll?

[giallo]

^ That Canucks troll that has been coming back again and again under 170 different aliases to try and bait Flames fans. Seriously, I think the guy has some mental issues. Either that or he's without any friends and really, really lonely.

Anyway, fantastic comeback by the Canucks. They manhandled the Avs in the last two periods. It was super fun to watch.

[LeftCoaster]

First team to clinch a playoff spot, and they did it by winning the division... in mid March. :cheers::cheers:

Hey Nikko, you still think the Flyers are the best team in hockey?

[Nicko999]

Yeah, we all know what happened the last time we underestimated the flames.
_________

http://www.winnipegsun.com/sports/hockey/2011/03/15/17633366.html


:( bad news, first getting traded then this, also opinions of habs fas?

Can't find the video on Youtube but I saw the hit on TV... it looked dirty so I'm perfectly fine with the 10 games suspension.

Looks like the AHL has more guts than the NHL.

I'm sick of all those headshots, hits from behind and dirty plays.

[Nicko999]

First team to clinch a playoff spot, and they did it by winning the division... in mid March. :cheers::cheers:

Hey Nikko, you still think the Flyers are the best team in hockey?

The Flyers have more depth but it's currently hard to argue against the Canucks... the Sedins are taking this team to another level.

Good to see Lapierre score (assisted by Higgins).:tup: He could be extremely useful come playoffs time.:P

Those faces during the playoffs last year were priceless.:haha:

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[Flamesrule]

^ That Canucks troll that has been coming back again and again under 170 different aliases to try and bait Flames fans. Seriously, I think the guy has some mental issues. Either that or he's without any friends and really, really lonely.

Anyway, fantastic comeback by the Canucks. They manhandled the Avs in the last two periods. It was super fun to watch.

Sconadian?

I missed his return? Oh well, I say Flames will finish in 7th-8th place, but it all leads up to the last game I say.

[Calgarian]

Daymond Langkow started practicing with the team this week, good to see him getting back into shape, it would be great if the Flames made the playoffs and he could start in the playoffs. I figured his career was over for sure.

[Ayreonaut]

Back down into 9th for now.

Phaneuf has definitely picked his game up; sure he only has 7 goals, but six of those have come in the new year.

[Jay in Cowtown]

I kinda do to. I remember what happened last time these 2 teams met in the playoffs (first round, too). :banana:

This Canucks team actually has a goalie and some big defencemen, unlike in '04. If the Flames made the playoffs the Canucks are the last team I'd want them to meet in the first round!

It's sad, but I really noticed how important Morrison is to the top line on this team watching those last 3 games. Tanguay's looking for Iginla again instead of shooting, and Iginla has been invisible with 2 guys on his ass constantly. Also the team seems to have forgotten how to break out and pass in the neutral zone... which was giving them so much success before this slide!

[caltrane74]

The Toronto Star has front page news on their website everyday, that the Leafs will make the playoffs, or they have a chance to make the playoff. The funny thing is, they never say which year they expect the leafs to make the playoffs.

[freeweed]

It's sad, but I really noticed how important Morrison is to the top line on this team watching those last 3 games. Tanguay's looking for Iginla again instead of shooting, and Iginla has been invisible with 2 guys on his ass constantly. Also the team seems to have forgotten how to break out and pass in the neutral zone... which was giving them so much success before this slide!

Yeah, who would have thought back in September that Morrison is the lynchpin of this team. But it's true - they're floundering without him.

I hope like hell he's back soon. Any word on how long they expect him gone?

[MrOilers]

Nice to se Patioretty up and about after that nasty injury.

Although does anyone find it a little odd that he became "symptom free" from that "severe concussion" awful fast? I don't know... it took Crosby a couple of months, and I don't think they ever labeled his as "severe". Can't really overemphasize the severity fractured vertebrae though.

But the fact that he only has to wait for his bones to heal now makes the insane reaction from Toilet Seat fans that much more pathetic.


By the way, look at the Habs fans cheer when Gill does the exact same thing as Chara:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHHMZkpvw6c

Hal Gill should be cellmates with Chara. :)

[Yume-sama]

It's amazing how fast a broken neck and severe concussion can heal when they're made up or severely over stated on the morning of the disciplinary hearing.

I'm not saying he wasn't hurt, but it's a virtual certainty the extent of his injury was COMPLETELY overblown.

You can't be "over" a severe concussion in a week (he probably had a headache :P). Your neck can't heal in 3, and you shouldn't be expected on ice in April.

The Habs organization almost looks as disgusting as their fans for playing up his impending death, now.

And now since they didn't succeed in getting what they wanted, oh look, he'll be back in 3 weeks lol

This is why the NHL could never hand out "injury based" suspensions. Teams will lie.

A severe concussion should have put him out for at least as long as Savard / Bergeron (a year) and the vertebrae, at least as long as Langkow (a year).

Hell, if you have a bad ankle sprain you're out for at least 6 months.

[Darkoshvilli]

Instead of being happy that the guy is healing so well, you guys go on with that load of bullshit. Shows a lot about you, really does.

But yeah, Pacioretty is made out of kryptonite. I hope they're not rushing him though.

[Yume-sama]

It's a load of truth.

I'm happy he's getting better. Although it's becoming blatantly obvious there wasn't all THAT much to get better from.

If we freaked out and rioted every time a third line player was going to be out about a month...

Mainly stroked by the organization shamelessly claiming he's practically dead.

[Smooth]

Yeah, who would have thought back in September that Morrison is the lynchpin of this team. But it's true - they're floundering without him.

I hope like hell he's back soon. Any word on how long they expect him gone?

Sounds similar to when Morrison was on the Westcoast Express line with Bertuzzi & Nazlund. He didn't get much love then either.

[Jay in Cowtown]

It's amazing how fast a broken neck and severe concussion can heal when they're made up or severely over stated on the morning of the disciplinary hearing.

I'm not saying he wasn't hurt, but it's a virtual certainty the extent of his injury was COMPLETELY overblown.

You can't be "over" a severe concussion in a week (he probably had a headache :P). Your neck can't heal in 3, and you shouldn't be expected on ice in April.

The Habs organization almost looks as disgusting as their fans for playing up his impending death, now.

And now since they didn't succeed in getting what they wanted, oh look, he'll be back in 3 weeks lol

This is why the NHL could never hand out "injury based" suspensions. Teams will lie.

A severe concussion should have put him out for at least as long as Savard / Bergeron (a year) and the vertebrae, at least as long as Langkow (a year).

Hell, if you have a bad ankle sprain you're out for at least 6 months.

LMFAO!!! even though you were probably just intending on keeping the shitstorm going on this thread with that post... it still didn't have a word of bullshit in it! :tup:

[Yume-sama]

LMFAO!!! even though you were probably just intending on keeping the shitstorm going on this thread with that post... it still didn't have a word of bullshit in it! :tup:

Well, I'm certainly not the only one noticing. This makes the whole Habs organization look *very* bad.

They'll never be believed again the next time they claim one of their players is nearly dead and will never play again, conveniently before the NHL is to meet and decide on a suspension of the player who supposedly nearly killed and forced in to retirement one of their players. Who really only had a headache and a pretty sore back.

It's just a medical fact that he could *not* have had any of what they claimed he did, if they expect his recovery time is about 1 month.

The Leafs' Armstrong is set to miss longer with a broken *toe*.

[freeweed]

Great news for the Habs (and, of course Max himself). Too bad they had to create an entire circus around this. I bet Max is almost embarrassed about the whole thing.

Speaking of injuries that are actually very serious, Langkow is skating and taking hits. He may actually return for the playoffs (if we make it). THAT is an incredible recovery. I was sure his career was over. Very few players that are out for a full year ever come back, especially 34 year olds.

[Yume-sama]

I'm curious how much Langkow could contribute. Glad to see he's back, now that *was* a scary career threatening injury.

I'd be happier to welcome him back if his salary wasn't so inexplicably high.

[freeweed]

I'm curious how much Langkow could contribute. Glad to see he's back, now that *was* a scary career threatening injury.

I'd be happier to welcome him back if his salary wasn't so inexplicably high.

His salary makes sense if you compare him to the Jokinens and Stajans and Kotaliks. :haha:

Remember, Langs was shaping up to be a consistent 25-30 goal centre before the injury bug bit him. I don't think his salary is out of line compared to similar players around the league.

[Yume-sama]

Well, perhaps not. But from what I recall, he was only a "technical" first line centre because we had nothing better (and likely still don't).

And he couldn't win a faceoff. Like ever.

The Flames FO% actually hasn't sucked so noticeably bad this year. At least in key zones at key times.

[lubicon]

Yeah, other than against Anaheim we didn't really lose ground last night. Dallas and Nashville both lost in regulation.
The Flames still control their own fate; plenty of winnable games left (we play StL again too), and some crucial nights against California teams.

Gotta disagree with you on this one. Every team they are battling with for the final spot has 2 games in hand and the Flames are sitting 9th as of this morning. They are going to have to almost win out AND hope for some help. Not looking good.

[Ayreonaut]

Gotta disagree with you on this one. Every team they are battling with for the final spot has 2 games in hand and the Flames are sitting 9th as of this morning. They are going to have to almost win out AND hope for some help. Not looking good.

Two of our games are against Anaheim, and five are against the bottom three teams in the conference.
Winning those games would put Calgary in a very good position. The only team they can't directly affect is Nashville, so we will need some help keeping them down.

[Yume-sama]

We have two against Anaheim, Colorado, and Edmonton.

The Flames pretty much have to take advantage of that and win all 6.

I bet we lose to the Oilers somehow.

[Ayreonaut]

I know it's a cliche, but taking it one at a time really is the best thing to do.

Tonight's game is against an Avs team that is 1-17-2 in their last 20.

[Yume-sama]

And Stewart really was the only Flames killer on that team :D

[Nicko999]

It's a load of truth.

I'm happy he's getting better. Although it's becoming blatantly obvious there wasn't all THAT much to get better from.

If we freaked out and rioted every time a third line player was going to be out about a month...

Mainly stroked by the organization shamelessly claiming he's practically dead.

Pacioretty a third line player???:haha: 14 goals in 37 games. Had he played all Habs games, he would be in the NHL top 30 in goal scoring and the BEST Hab goal scorer.

Thanks for the :haha: though.

[Yume-sama]

Just because Brendan Morrison is a first line centre on the Flames doesn't mean he'd be a first line centre on 29 other teams.

Just saying :P

I highly doubt Pacioretty will ever be a 40 goal scorer.

If you score 2 goals in the first game, you're probably not going to score 164.

[Nicko999]

It's amazing how fast a broken neck and severe concussion can heal when they're made up or severely over stated on the morning of the disciplinary hearing.

I'm not saying he wasn't hurt, but it's a virtual certainty the extent of his injury was COMPLETELY overblown.

You can't be "over" a severe concussion in a week (he probably had a headache :P). Your neck can't heal in 3, and you shouldn't be expected on ice in April.

The Habs organization almost looks as disgusting as their fans for playing up his impending death, now.

And now since they didn't succeed in getting what they wanted, oh look, he'll be back in 3 weeks lol

This is why the NHL could never hand out "injury based" suspensions. Teams will lie.

A severe concussion should have put him out for at least as long as Savard / Bergeron (a year) and the vertebrae, at least as long as Langkow (a year).

Hell, if you have a bad ankle sprain you're out for at least 6 months.

Another :haha:post... The fact he was unconscious for a few minutes means it's a severe concussion.
Take a look at the link: Grade 3= severe concussion
http://tbi.unl.edu/savedTBI/sports/grades.html

Plus Pacioretty didn't comeback and play a game while he had a concussion like Crosby and Perron did.

And some players are just thougher than others... Aaron Rodgers had a concussion but he only missed a week or 2 if I remember correctly.

Bouwmeester has played what now... 500 consecutive games? On the other hand, we have Sami Salo or Marian Gaborik who have always been injured since they started played hockey.

Some players heal faster... some don't. Just the way nature is.

[Yume-sama]

Sorry, but a severe concussion does not recover fully in 1 week, or even a few months. Even if you're "tough".

Savard, Lindros etc. couldn't even *walk* for weeks, let alone go sit in the pressbox 1 week later and cheer on the team in a loud building.

There's only two options. The Habs lied (or grossly mis-represented the nature of his injury, if you prefer) or they're setting the stage to force him back early.

Neither option is that pretty, but one of them is true.

In the end it doesn't matter. He's getting better, and now everyone knows how dis-honest the Habs are.

And when he's back and scoring those goals in the playoffs, nobody will care anymore.

[Nicko999]

Just because Brendan Morrison is a first line centre on the Flames doesn't mean he'd be a first line centre on 29 other teams.

Just saying :P

I highly doubt Pacioretty will ever be a 40 goal scorer.

If you score 2 goals in the first game, you're probably not going to score 164.

Do you realize Pacioretty has more PP goals than Iginla even though he played 35 less games than Jarome?

I am not saying he will score 40 goals but the potential is there for 30-35 goals a year. Definately not a third liner.:haha:

[Yume-sama]

Considering the majority of the Habs offense comes on the PP, I'm not surprised their players score more PP goals :P

Did you know Brad Marchand has more shorthanded goals than like 500 players combined?

*waits for you to tell me the exact % of goals the Habs score on the PP*

[freeweed]

Good editorial on headshots. (http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Editorial+Bettman+need+zero+tolerance+head+hits/4452216/story.html)

I'm more and more agreeing with this, or at least recognizing that it's where this is going to end up within a few short years. No contact to the head, regardless of reason.

Of course, with a 6'9" frame, Chara will have to retire from the league. I don't think it's actually POSSIBLE for him to hit someone and not make contact with their head. Unless he's only allowed to hipcheck or something. :haha:

[Nicko999]

Still... Pacioretty leads the Habs in PP goals having played only 37 games.

Yes, we score a lot of goals on the PP but those goals come from Pacs nonetheless.

[Jay in Cowtown]

Two of our games are against Anaheim, and five are against the bottom three teams in the conference.
Winning those games would put Calgary in a very good position. The only team they can't directly affect is Nashville, so we will need some help keeping them down.

I totally expected the Flames losing that game in Phoenix and Saturday against Vancouver, the one I thought they'd win was Phoenix at home on Tuesday. So in my projection now they have to take at least 3 points outta the 3 California games, where before I was thinking 1 OT loss point of 6...

Colorado - W
Anaheim - W
LA - L
San Jose - OTL
Oilers - W
Anaheim - OTL
St. Louis - W
Colorado - W
Oilers - W
Vancouver - OTL (if Vancouver sits half their lineup)

[Yume-sama]

If Vancouver could officially eliminate the Flames I'd think they would try.

Of course it's always possible they'd prefer to play us in the playoffs. Who could blame them.

I mean, now that David Moss is out!! :P

[Nicko999]

The stuff I read on the previous page is pathetic... First of all: when a player is unconscious on the ice, it is classified as a severe concussion. Grade 1 and 2 concussions don't cause unconsciousness.

http://bit.ly/f8RqyE

This what I got from a medicine site:
Recovery from concussion: It takes considerable time and energy for the brain to correct this chemical imbalance. Changes in the brain start to resolve immediately, but the recovery time seems to vary. The time depends not only on the severity of the blow, but also on how many previous concussions a person has had.
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=13166

[Nicko999]

Speaking of injuries... Plekanec, Halpern and now Gill (flu) will miss tonight's game. :jester:

So we'll play without 9 regulars tonight.:haha:

The lineup looks amazing.:P

Moen-Gomez-Gionta
Cammalleri-Eller-Kostitsyn
Pouliot-Desharnais-White
Dawes-Pyatt-Palushaj

Hamrlik-Wisniewski
Mara-Subban
Picard-Weber

Price

40% of the team comes from Hamilton (or should be there). Needless to say I don't expect a win tonight. I feel bad for Price.:(

[Calgarian]

The stuff I read on the previous page is pathetic... First of all: when a player is unconscious on the ice, it is classified as a severe concussion. Grade 1 and 2 concussions don't cause unconsciousness.

http://bit.ly/f8RqyE

This what I got from a medicine site:

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=13166

This is a fair enough post. I think he got rocked, but the concussion seems overstated however. People do get knocked out without getting a concussion, keep that in mind.

Either way, great news to hear he is making a speedy recovery, sounds like the Habs could really use him right about now.

If the Flames lose tonight, their season is done, there's no way they can win the rest of their games (which is basically what they would need to do).

[Darkoshvilli]

Price and the Hamilton Bulldogs manage defeat the 3rd place Bolts in the SO where Price stopped Stamkos and St Louis.

[Ayreonaut]

No help from Boston tonight. :hell:

[Nicko999]

No help from Boston tonight. :hell:

Actually I'll change the smiley...:tup:

[SpikePhanta]

Seems like another Boston-Montreal playoff series...

[mintzilla]

flames are lucky they have the easiest schedule for the last couple games

[Nicko999]

The youth of the Montreal Canadiens is really fun to watch this year.:)

That 2007 NHL draft was something for us...:P A "perfect" draft if you ask me (when we exclude McDonagh at 12th overall):).

Lars Eller: 1st round, 13th overall (by St-Louis)... thank you Halak
Max Pacioretty: 1st round, 22nd overall
PK Subban: 2nd round, 43th overall
Aaron Palushaj: 2nd, 44th overall (by St-Louis)... from the D'Agostini trade.
Yannick Weber: 3rd, 73rd overall

All those players are currently with the team.:tup:

[freeweed]

flames are lucky they have the easiest schedule for the last couple games

Yeah, the Oilers and Canucks are pretty much the worst teams in the league this year.

[freeweed]

So, when do the criminal charges against LeCavalier get filed?

[freeweed]

Speaking of silly hockey things, I just realized that Crosby has missed like 30 games this season, and yet the Pens are kicking serious ass. From the way some talk about Crosby (perpetual MVP candidate, best player ever, team is nothing without him), I figured the team for sure would tank and they'd be getting the top draft pick.

Anyone have the W-L records for with and without Sid in the lineup?

[Darkoshvilli]

Seems like another Boston-Montreal playoff series...

You can actually hear the state of NE shaking in their boots. :D

[Ayreonaut]

Speaking of silly hockey things, I just realized that Crosby has missed like 30 games this season, and yet the Pens are kicking serious ass. From the way some talk about Crosby (perpetual MVP candidate, best player ever, team is nothing without him), I figured the team for sure would tank and they'd be getting the top draft pick.

Anyone have the W-L records for with and without Sid in the lineup?

No Malkin either. Pretty scary if they had both those guys.

[Ayreonaut]

You can actually hear the state of NE shaking in their boots. :D

It would be a damn good series, as long as the focus is kept on hockey rather than past events.

[jigglysquishy]

The Flames still have a shot. They have 3 gimme games(Oilers,Avalanche) , 3 semi-hard games (Blues, Ducks) and 3 hard games (Canucks, Kings, Sharks). If they win all 3 gimme games and 3 of the other 6 games that'll put them at 95 points i.e. playoff position.

[SpikePhanta]

Vancouver, Calgary and LA have the easiest schedule coming up.
good for vancouver, would be good to have D.Sedin to win Art Ross.
Presidents is added bonus too :D

[Urban_Genius]

Speaking of silly hockey things, I just realized that Crosby has missed like 30 games this season, and yet the Pens are kicking serious ass. From the way some talk about Crosby (perpetual MVP candidate, best player ever, team is nothing without him), I figured the team for sure would tank and they'd be getting the top draft pick.

Anyone have the W-L records for with and without Sid in the lineup?


They're a very under-rated team. Dan Bylsma is a really good coach in my opinion and doesn't get enough praise (far superior than Bruce Boudreau for example). Marc-Andre Fleury is one of the best goalies in the league in my opinion, he's really improved in the last 3 seasons. Jordan Staal is a top 2 centre on any other NHL team. Kris Letang has taken his game to the next level too.

I expect Crosby to still play this season, and if he does they could be scary.
Hopefully we see another Pittsburgh-Philadelphia series. Maybe the best rivalry going..

[SpikePhanta]

ESPN TROPHY TRACKER
http://espn.go.com/nhl/trophytracker


HART MEMORIAL TROPHY
1. Daniel Sedin
2. Jonathan Toews
3. Carey Price
4. Steven Stamkos
5. Anze Kopitar


ART ROSS TROPHY
1. Daniel Sedin
2. Steven Stamkos
3. Henrik Sedin
4. Martin St. Louis
5. Corey Perry


MAURICE RICHARD TROPHY
1. Steven Stamkos
2. Daniel Sedin
3. Corey Perry
4. Ryan Kesler
5. Patrick Sharp


VEZINA TROPHY
1. Tim Thomas
2. Roberto Luongo
3. Carey Price
4. Pekka Rinne
5. Henrik Lundqvist


WILLIAM M JENNINGS TROPHY
1. Pekka Rinne
2. Tim Thomas
3. Roberto Luongo
4. Jonathan Quick
5. Marc-Andre Fleury


JAMES NORRIS MEMORIAL TROPHY
1. Keith Yandle
2. Christian Ehrhoff
3. Lubomir Visnovsky
4. Kris Letang
5. Nicklas Lidstrom


CALDER MEMORIAL TROPHY
1. Logan Couture
2. John Carlson
3. Jeff Skinner
4. Corey Crawford
5. Michael Grabner


JACK ADAMS TROPHY
1. Alain Vigneault
2. Peter Laviolette
3. Mike Babcock
4. Guy Boucher
5. Dan Bylsma
I think Lemaire and Bylsma should be considered for Jack Adams the most.

[Darkoshvilli]

It would be a damn good series, as long as the focus is kept on hockey rather than past events.

I don't think there will be any non-sense going on, its the playoffs after all.

[Ayreonaut]

I don't think there will be any non-sense going on, its the playoffs after all.

True, if either team lets anything like that get to them they'd come out on the losing end.

[-Harlington-]

15-10-5 without crosby

[Nicko999]

I think Lemaire and Bylsma should be considered for Jack Adams the most.

Carey Price should be ahead of Toews (but maybe I'm a bit bias:)) in the Hart race...

He is leading the NHL in wins while his team will play without 9 regulars for a second straight game.
BTW-The 34 wins by Price this season are the most by any Habs goalie since Patrick Roy in 1994.:tup:

EDIT: The Avalance was eliminated from the playoffs race (officially) so this means only 28 teams are left (5 Canadians) battling for the Cup.

[LeftCoaster]

Wow, does someone want to message the Habs and remind them the game is on tonight? Jeez my fantasy team is getting decimated right now.

[Nicko999]

LOL, we sure miss our 9 regulars today...:haha:

First time this season Price is pulled out of a game but it really isn't his fault.

[Nicko999]

Well at least we never gave up... but yeah the first period was pathetic. It's the first time this season we allow 5 goals in one period.

But considering our injuries and the fact the Rangers are fighting to stay in the playoff race... the loss was expect.

Also kudos to Tortorella... he completely outcoached Martin. He knew we had 9 regulars missing so he exploited the Picard-Weber pair. Needless to say I had a headache watching those 2 tonight.:no:

[Some guy]

Not a good night for the Habs . . . not a good night for the Canucks either. There goes the winning streak. :pissed:

[p78hub]

officiating was awful, but even then, burrows didn't deserve a 5-minute major AND a game misconduct.

[Surrealplaces]

I'm sure the Montreal journalists will do what they can to help Price win.

Carey Price should be ahead of Toews (but maybe I'm a bit bias:)) in the Hart race...

He is leading the NHL in wins while his team will play without 9 regulars for a second straight game.
BTW-The 34 wins by Price this season are the most by any Habs goalie since Patrick Roy in 1994.:tup:

[Surrealplaces]

flames are lucky they have the easiest schedule for the last couple games

I wouldn't call it lucky...they've already played the tough teams.

Besides, it isn't really an easy schedule.....yes they play the Oilers, but when Edmonton plays Calgary, they aren't the usual Oilers. If Edmonton played every game like they do against the Flames they might still be in chasing a playoff spot.

[Yume-sama]

I always thought the opposite. If Calgary played down to the level of the Oilers every game they'd be getting a lotto pick, too. :P

[Nicko999]

I'm sure the Montreal journalists will do what they can to help Price win.

Of course...:rolleyes: Iginla didn't win in 2002 because the Flames missed the playoffs... while Theodore was carrying the team on his back.

During the 01-02 season, Theodore had a .931 sv % while the second best goalie was Patrick Roy with a .925 sv %.

The Habs only had 6 players with more than 10 goals that year.

You cannot win MVP if your team misses the playoffs (unless you're Gretzky or Lemieux).

[Ayreonaut]

Well I don't think Chicago will miss the playoffs, so I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

[Habanero]

No, it was because of an asshole homer from Montreal who didn't put Iggy even in the top ten candidates for MVP. If he had of, Iggy and Theodore would have been tied on points, but Iggy would have won on more first place votes. Yes more first place votes. In other words there were other journalists outside of Calgary who thought he should have been the MVP.

In case you're not aware of how the voting is done, the journalists don't just pick one candidate they pick 10.

Of course...:rolleyes: Iginla didn't win in 2002 because the Flames missed the playoffs... while Theodore was carrying the team on his back.

[The_Architect]

Kaberle has his awaited return to Toronto tonight!
I really honestly hope he gets a standing ovation a la Sundin.. He deserves it for sure.

If anyone boos him I will be embarrassed for them as a Leafs fan, and they should be escorted from the building. Guy's a class act.

[Nicko999]

Leafs... please WIN!:)

[Nicko999]

No, it was because of an asshole homer from Montreal who didn't put Iggy even in the top ten candidates for MVP. If he had of, Iggy and Theodore would have been tied on points, but Iggy would have won on more first place votes. Yes more first place votes. In other words there were other journalists outside of Calgary who thought he should have been the MVP.

In case you're not aware of how the voting is done, the journalists don't just pick one candidate they pick 10.

And some homer Calgary journalists didn't pick Theodore either.;)
http://bit.ly/gDKUlf
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/stories/2002-06-20-awards-totals.htm

Theodore was on 58 ballots while Iginla was on 61.

If one journalist didn't put Iginla in his top 5 then 3 journalists didn't put Theodore in their ballots.

[Surrealplaces]

That's correct. They were tied on points but, but Theodore had more first place votes for the tie breaker.

One correction though, from what I've heard no Calgary journalists left Theodore off of their list.

And some homer Calgary journalists didn't pick Theodore either.;)
http://bit.ly/gDKUlf
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/stories/2002-06-20-awards-totals.htm

Theodore was on 58 ballots while Iginla was on 61.

If one journalist didn't put Iginla in his top 5 then 3 journalists didn't put Theodore in their ballots.

[Nicko999]

That's correct. They were tied on points but, but Theodore had more first place votes for the tie breaker.

One correction though, from what I've heard no Calgary journalists left Theodore off of their list.

Is that a rumour or an actual fact? I tried my best searching for info but couldn't find anything.

Anyway, thank you Leafs!!!:tup: Good job on booing Chara as well!

[Nicko999]

Only Gill back for tonight's game...:rolleyes:

It's the perfect time to get a week off but instead it's one of our busiest period of the season. We have 5 games in 8 nights coming up.

Seriously though, I am started to get worried about Plekanec. I guess the Habs will have to find a new iron man. It's the first in his career he has missed 2 consecutive games (3 tonight).:(

[Nicko999]

Boston, Edmonton and Montreal are the only teams in the NHL that have 4 rookies with more than 10 pts this season.

If only Pacioretty was considering a rookie...:haha:

The quality of youngsters we have is a reason as to why we keep winning with all those injuries... that and Carey Price.;)

[The_Architect]

Well it looks like Matt Cooke once again proved he doesn't give a shit about the well being of other players, has no respect for anyone, and doesn't learn.
1-1 tie game and he runs Ryan McDonagh and delivers a blindside elbow to the head, while not even looking at the puck. The fact that this POS wears the 'A' for that team is a disgrace and a black mark on the organization.

This guy needs to be taught a lesson, double digit suspension and possibly a fine to the organization. I'll be waiting for Mario's statement.

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[Yume-sama]

At least it resulted in 2 Rangers PP goals in 11 second.

Pierre thinks he should get 8 games. I bet he gets a $2500 fine :D

McDonagh was actually fine, too, and assisted on the 4 - 2 goal in the last minute of the third~

Is he technically a repeat offender if the NHL didn't actually suspend him for the Savard hit?

[The_Architect]

At least it resulted in 2 Rangers PP goals in 11 second.

Pierre thinks he should get 8 games. I bet he gets a $2500 fine :D

McDonagh was actually fine, too, and assisted on the 4 - 2 goal in the last minute of the third~

Is he technically a repeat offender if the NHL didn't actually suspend him for the Savard hit?

He was suspended for the hit on Tyutin.

And it doesn't matter that McDonagh was fine, it's the principle of it and the fact that Matt Cooke has shown he shows no respect for any other player and goes out of his way to injure them. He needs to be stopped before he ends another career.

[Ayreonaut]

Pierre thinks he should get 8 games. I bet he gets a $2500 fine :D


That may have been true if this hit happened a month ago, but in the wake of the Chara incident, I'm sure he'll get some games here.

[Yume-sama]

I dunno, Hornqvist was fined $2500 for taking off Tyler Seguin's earlobe (literally lol) with a flying elbow that earned him a 5 minute major :P

Which is pretty much equivalent to any of us getting a late fee at Blockbusters.

Don't worry, though. They stitched Seguin's ear back on.

[Ayreonaut]

But if the league wants to make an example of anyone, why not Cooke?

[Flamesrule]

Wow.

Since it is already 3-0 for the Ducks, I'd say the Flames playoff chances are over.

[Yume-sama]

Yeah. Too bad we won't be experiencing Spring weather in Calgary until mid-June, and we'll have no Flames to watch to get through it.

And now awaiting on Nicko to post endlessly about his hero PK Subban getting a hat trick.

[Ayreonaut]

3 goals on what, 4 shots? Terrible. The good thing is that they're not even halfway through the first yet, hopefully they can come back.

[Flamesrule]

Kipper should have had 2 out of those 3 goals. The second goal trickled in, and Perry just tapped it in, the third goal, was a point shot, no tip.

[jigglysquishy]

Don't give up hope yet. 3-1 going into the 2nd is still a winnable game.

Holy shit at the Habs. 8-1? Damn

[Nicko999]

Yeah. Too bad we won't be experiencing Spring weather in Calgary until mid-June, and we'll have no Flames to watch to get through it.

And now awaiting on Nicko to post endlessly about his hero PK Subban getting a hat trick.

The biggest surprise was seeing Ryan White with a Gordie Howe hat trick...:sly:

Subban is so skilled that it was just a question of time before his first hat trick.

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Even Auld had an assist tonight.:haha:

[Flamesrule]

Suban is skilled at a offensive defenseman, while he is useless at being a defensive defenseman.

[Ayreonaut]

Suban is skilled at a offensive defenseman, while he is useless at being a defensive defenseman.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Most of the criticism towards Subban on this site has little to do with his actual play (most of us say it's just too early to put him with the likes of Orr and Coffey), but rather towards the man-crush Nicko seems to have on him. That said, good for him; getting a trick as a d-man is quite the accomplishment.

[Nicko999]

PK Subban is the first rookie defenseman in Habs history to score a Hattrick.

Last Hattrick by a Habs rookie? Oleg Petrov in 1993

PK Subban in the record books now.:P

Also from TSN
Subban is also the first defenceman to record a hat trick against the Wild.

The loss was the most lopsided in Wild history

[Ayreonaut]

Tie game!

Big early leads are nothing these days. The Flames have been involved in plenty of large comebacks this season (both sides of them).

Damn, I wish I could be watching this game; 4-3 Calgary now and the shots are 34-20.

[Yume-sama]

Pretty big comeback by the Flames so far, not that I completely discounted them :D lol

Hopefully they can hang on now.

[Yume-sama]

Fricken Bourque and his stupidly timed penalties.

[Ayreonaut]

Wouldn't be a Flames game without that late tying goal.