The_Architect
Oct 27, 2010, 4:41 AM
I'll let you guys have your fun for a few more weeks until they start sucking again.
BTW-I just saw Toronto's third goal, Giguere tripped the Florida player a few seconds before Kessel scored. That's 2 goals that shouldn't count.
Now (like a typical Montrealer), you're just searching for something to complain about.
That goal was fantastic, Kessel is fantastic, the Leafs have a playoff team this year (better than the Habs actually), so go back into your cave where you sit and wish it was 1993 every day...
Darkoshvilli
Oct 27, 2010, 4:48 AM
You just lost all credibility with that post. Even theman will admit the habs are better.
Calgarian
Oct 27, 2010, 4:49 AM
Good to see the Flames learned to defend a lead :rolleyes:
That was a very entertaining game though, something we didn't get much of in the BoA last season. The Oilers showed a ton of inexperience in the first 2 periods, they were brutal in their own end, Morrison looks like a great pickup, why did Vancouver not keep him? he would have worked out great for them on the 3rd or 4th line.
ZeDgE
Oct 27, 2010, 5:04 AM
Was at the game in the nose bleeds. Very entertaining game. We definetly let up in the third and Kipper let in a softie by Eberle. Made it interesting though.
freeweed
Oct 27, 2010, 5:27 AM
Im cringing as I watch it right now...
As much as I dislike anything and everything flames....I gotta say I feel bad for
you guys having Peter Loubardias as the play by play on sportsnet
Really? I listen to a LOT of different broadcasts (gotta love satellite) and he's one of the most energetic, engaging guys doing it today. Hell, he's 1000x better than just about everyone on CBC (Bob Cole isn't dead yet?!?), and 10,000,000x better than half of TSN (someone, ANYONE, please shoot Pierre).
He's no Kielback, but no one will ever be.
freeweed
Oct 27, 2010, 5:29 AM
Hear hear! *cough* Brett Hull *cough*
Yeah, that Leaf non-call was bad, but shit - watch any Detroit game played in the past decade or so. Every single game Holmstrom gets away with several of those. I'd personally put an asterisk next to most of their recent success.
Besides, it's a known fact that "Original 6" teams (whatever that even means these days, we've had more than 6 teams for much longer than we ever did 6) have always been favoured when it comes to reffing. It'll be another generation before that stupidity finally dies.
bulliver
Oct 27, 2010, 5:55 AM
Really? I listen to a LOT of different broadcasts (gotta love satellite) and he's one of the most energetic, engaging guys doing it today. Hell, he's 1000x better than just about everyone on CBC (Bob Cole isn't dead yet?!?), and 10,000,000x better than half of TSN (someone, ANYONE, please shoot Pierre).
He's no Kielback, but no one will ever be.
Ha ha, funny how everyone has different tastes. I love McGuire. Sure he's obnoxious, but man does he know hockey. I learn a lot from him, he knows every player, their parents, where they were born, where they played midget, where they played junior, who their college roommates were, what they had for dinner....
He actual gives useful, informative colour, unlike most who just keep repeating the same old hackneyed BS.
freeweed
Oct 27, 2010, 6:09 AM
Ha ha, funny how everyone has different tastes. I love McGuire. Sure he's obnoxious, but man does he know hockey. I learn a lot from him, he knows every player, their parents, where they were born, where they played midget, where they played junior, who their college roommates were, what they had for dinner....
He actual gives useful, informative colour, unlike most who just keep repeating the same old hackneyed BS.
I'll admit he'd kill me in a game of Trivial Pursuit, but his tastes and mine in terms of talent are diametrically opposed. Plus he just says such stupid things all the time. And he'd love to suck Marty Turco's ballsack, based on evidence so far.
He's a lot like Millbury. Another "those who can't do, do commentary" hockey expert. Entertaining to be sure, just not what I want to hear for 3 hours straight. McGuire would be ever so much more tolerable if he was just an intermission panel guy.
But yeah, a lot of it is a matter of taste. I much prefer people who don't forcibly come off as experts all the time. McGuire just tries to hard to impress.
Flamesrule
Oct 27, 2010, 10:22 AM
It seems like a Very exciting game for the Flames. Though I didn't the game, how can the Flames keep a 4-0 lead, but lose a 4-1 in less than 20 minutes?
Anway I'm happy either way.
caltrane74
Oct 27, 2010, 12:40 PM
K.E.S.S.E.L Thats all you need to know!
Coldrsx
Oct 27, 2010, 2:31 PM
Entertaining if not frustrating BOA... but seriously, it looked like we were in the WHL last night for the 1st two.
Jay in Cowtown
Oct 27, 2010, 2:59 PM
how can the Flames keep a 4-0 lead, but lose a 4-1 in less than 20 minutes?
Stupid defensive mistakes as a result of being lazy with a big lead.
Irregardless, this team is playing well together and figuring out there's more than just one guy that can score. Iginla will become more of a threat now that the weight of this teams offence is coming off his shoulders... you watch!
freeweed
Oct 27, 2010, 3:31 PM
It ain't gonna last, but Calgary is #2 in the league right now.
caltrane74
Oct 27, 2010, 3:36 PM
game in hand, game in hand.. game in hand..
Jay in Cowtown
Oct 27, 2010, 3:49 PM
Holy Christ, we know already!
Is it me, or is Leaf Nation beginning to crawl out of whatever rocks they've been hiding under for the past 8 years? :haha:
theman23
Oct 27, 2010, 5:14 PM
So that slash on Colby Armstrong that wasnt called last night? Hes out for 4-6 weeks because of it. Yet another call missed by both Nicko and the refs.
B-b-b-ut the refs are biased!!!
Calgarian
Oct 27, 2010, 5:27 PM
Haha, Phaneuf is already a -5 on the season.
I predict that Toronto will start playing more to their calibre and will quickly fall down the standings.
caltrane74
Oct 27, 2010, 5:34 PM
two words! NAZEM KADRI
When the going gets rough, we're gonna bring him up. And that will be death for you guys. No doubt.
Flamesrule
Oct 27, 2010, 7:31 PM
yeah! I beat touraccuracy!
Anyway for the Flames, this is a BIG movement from last year. Lets hope they can keep it up.
Yume-sama
Oct 27, 2010, 7:44 PM
yeah! I beat touraccuracy!
Anyway for the Flames, this is a BIG movement from last year. Lets hope they can keep it up.
Weren't the Flames #1 in the NW with a double digit point lead on Vancouver until about Christmas last year?
Of course, that was mostly due to the fact that Iginla had his one good month of the year in November, last year. 15 or 16 goals that month...
Flamesrule
Oct 27, 2010, 7:49 PM
Weren't the Flames #1 in the NW with a double digit point lead on Vancouver until about Christmas last year?
Of course, that was mostly due to the fact that Iginla had his one good month of the year in November, last year. 15 or 16 goals that month...
I thought things were getting worse in mid November, but maybe not.;)
MrOilers
Oct 27, 2010, 8:11 PM
Calgary's just building up their typical early season points which will solidify their 9th place spot in the conference right after their horrid mid-season slump.
Last night I liked the way the Oilers didn't quit, even though they literally handed Calgary that 3 goal lead. The giveaways were BAD, but this Oilers team is already more inspirational to watch than last year's squad.
I predict that next year, the Oilers will leapfrog Calgary in the standings to finish 9th instead of the Flames (Calgary will finish 10th, and will have no draft picks because Sutter traded them all to get Phaneuf back from Toronto).
Flamesrule
Oct 27, 2010, 8:15 PM
Calgary's just building up their typical early season points which will solidify their 9th place spot in the conference right after their horrid mid-season slump.
Last night I liked the way the Oilers didn't quit, even though they literally handed Calgary that 3 goal lead. The giveaways were BAD, but this Oilers team is already more inspirational to watch than last year's squad.
I predict that next year, the Oilers will leapfrog Calgary in the standings to finish 9th instead of the Flames (Calgary will finish 10th, and will have no draft picks because Sutter traded them all to get Phaneuf back from Toronto).
Wait so let me get this straight? You think Edmonton will be higher than the flames, and be 9th in the standings? i expect them to be 11th or lower since they have young guys on their teams.
oh and from the recent years Flames have done terrible in November.
freeweed
Oct 27, 2010, 8:28 PM
Flames were 7-2-1 in their first 10 last year (which is better than their start this year, even if we win tomorrow). 10-2-2 in November as well. So yeah, they led the division for quite a while before completely imploding in December and January. The rest of the season was pretty much forgettable.
Riise
Oct 27, 2010, 8:41 PM
Really? I listen to a LOT of different broadcasts (gotta love satellite) and he's one of the most energetic, engaging guys doing it today. Hell, he's 1000x better than just about everyone on CBC (Bob Cole isn't dead yet?!?), and 10,000,000x better than half of TSN (someone, ANYONE, please shoot Pierre).
And that was 'some kind of' post by Freeweed...
Hahaha! I caught the first half of the game on a German feed last night and after I realized it was the Sportsnet video feed and it would be the Calgary crew I prayed for German audio. While Lombo might seem like a nice guy and bring a bit of energy, I can't stand his voice and style.
The true turning point in last night's game was when I had to switch to the Russian feed with a Russian commentator. Oddly enough, he had no emotion what so ever. It made every goal a bit surreal, I didn't know if it was a replay or offside.
I actually like McGuire, him and the TSN crew have good chemistry.
MrOilers
Oct 27, 2010, 9:19 PM
Wait so let me get this straight? You think Edmonton will be higher than the flames, and be 9th in the standings? i expect them to be 11th or lower since they have young guys on their teams.
Next season. Not this season.
But who the hell really knows with sports, right? :)
Yume-sama
Oct 27, 2010, 9:24 PM
Flames were 7-2-1 in their first 10 last year (which is better than their start this year, even if we win tomorrow). 10-2-2 in November as well. So yeah, they led the division for quite a while before completely imploding in December and January. The rest of the season was pretty much forgettable.
Ahh, yeah. October and November were great months.
The Flames looked like Stanley Cup contenders, and Jarome was on pace to win the Rocket Richard.
How things changed... with him only scoring twice in the final 20 games and all :P
Calgarian
Oct 27, 2010, 9:58 PM
Gotta love the Flames, they're a model of consistency...
Nicko999
Oct 27, 2010, 11:34 PM
Now (like a typical Torontonian), you're just searching for something to complain about.
That goal was fantastic, Cammalleri is fantastic, the Habs have a playoff team this year (better than the Leafs actually), so go back into your cave where you sit and wish it was 1967 every day...
Corrected that for you.;)
freeweed
Oct 27, 2010, 11:55 PM
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/92679/leafsabomination_large.jpg
My favourite book cover ever. At least the price is right.
The_Architect
Oct 28, 2010, 12:05 AM
Say whatever you'd like, doesn't change the fact that head-to-head, the Leafs would win that tiebreaker..
I'll actually help with your insults you haven't CHANGED since 1967 and add "Plan the parade!"
We're used to fans of worse teams hating on us, it doesn't even affect us in any way, just provides entertainment..
habfanman
Oct 28, 2010, 12:37 AM
Say whatever you'd like, doesn't change the fact that head-to-head, the Leafs would win that tiebreaker..
I'll actually help with your insults you haven't CHANGED since 1967 and add "Plan the parade!"
We're used to fans of worse teams hating on us, it doesn't even affect us in any way, just provides entertainment..
Oh leaf fans. Singing the same song decade after decade. Still sucking decade after decade..
All time record, Habs vs leafs:
Regular season GP 703 W 332 L 276 T 88 MTL, OTL 5 SOL 2, TOR OTL 4 SOL 5
(so if the leafs win the next 56 in a row..)
Playoffs are worse: GP 71 W 42 L 29
Keep repeating the same old, same old leafers! Good for a laugh every year!
Ayreonaut
Oct 28, 2010, 12:43 AM
We're used to fans of worse teams hating on us, it doesn't even affect us in any way, just provides entertainment..
Don't worry, fans in AHL cities (except probably Hershey) are just jealous of the Leafs' talent.
freeweed
Oct 28, 2010, 1:03 AM
We're used to fans of worse teams hating on us
Worse teams than the Leaves?
... Atlanta? Florida?
I'm at a loss here.
Ayreonaut
Oct 28, 2010, 1:56 AM
I just assumed he meant Hamilton, Albany, Oklahoma City, etc.
theman23
Oct 28, 2010, 1:57 AM
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/92679/leafsabomination_large.jpg
My favourite book cover ever. At least the price is right.
At least the price is right? You just said its your favourite book cover ever.
freeweed
Oct 28, 2010, 2:00 AM
At least the price is right? You just said its your favourite book cover ever.
Well, the rest of it is just a bit over the top. But the price - pure comedic gold. Let's face it, most hockey literature is rather... dry.
Of course, in another 50 years it will be hard to sell a book at that price and make any sort of profit, what with inflation and all. Maybe it will have to be $1967.00.
theman23
Oct 28, 2010, 2:03 AM
Well, the rest of it is just a bit over the top. But the price - pure comedic gold. Let's face it, most hockey literature is rather... dry.
Of course, in another 50 years it will be hard to sell a book at that price and make any sort of profit, what with inflation and all. Maybe it will have to be $1967.00.
I hear the price is going up to $20.11 this summer.
freeweed
Oct 28, 2010, 2:25 AM
I hear the price is going up to $20.11 this summer.
That would have to be on a different book though. :P
Well, unless Torontonians would be embarrassed about winning the cup.
Darkoshvilli
Oct 28, 2010, 3:37 AM
Habs win again, Price leads the league in wins. Lots of crow eating going on right now.
Nicko999
Oct 28, 2010, 4:14 AM
It doesn't matter what excuses you make, the Leafs are still in first place.
Leafs fans can now go hide!
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1219/scr1288238716.png
http://bit.ly/bkCYEM
http://bit.ly/do0FU6
http://bit.ly/cB5PNC
All this without our best player.
freeweed
Oct 28, 2010, 4:18 AM
Habs win again, Price leads the league in wins. Lots of crow eating going on right now.
:haha: Yeah, and the Flames are tied for 2nd overall. Definitely a Mtl-Cgy final based on these 9 games! :haha:
Reesonov
Oct 28, 2010, 4:25 AM
^ Montreal v. Calgary Stanley Cup Final Round 3. Book it.
EDIT: Shit, freeweed beat me to it.
Nicko999
Oct 28, 2010, 4:40 AM
The ATM line (Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Cammalleri) has a combined 25 pts and are +21.
The biggest surprise for me is Kostitsyn. We all knew he was skilled as hell but this guy can actually play defense.:sly:
PP still sucks but will get a huge boost this weekend with Markov coming back.
Currently dead with only 6.2%:(
http://bit.ly/bPW8UR
Darkoshvilli
Oct 28, 2010, 4:59 AM
Subban was insane defensively tonight. Not only is he threat offensively he's also showing some solid D capabilities. This guy is gonna be something.
Darkoshvilli
Oct 28, 2010, 5:02 AM
:haha: Yeah, and the Flames are tied for 2nd overall. Definitely a Mtl-Cgy final based on these 9 games! :haha:
If thats the conclusion you draw from my post then more power to you I guess.
Many people expected Price to fail under the pressure. Just pointing out that SO FAR he's proving everyone wrong. I never said this is how the whole season will go, im not a leafs fan.
habfanman
Oct 28, 2010, 5:03 AM
Subban was insane defensively tonight. Not only is he threat offensively he's also showing some solid D capabilities. This guy is gonna be something.
PK is a beast! I could see his potential in the playoffs last year. He's a crowd favourite too.
We may have another Robinson on our hands!
Nicko999
Oct 28, 2010, 5:08 AM
Subban was insane defensively tonight. Not only is he threat offensively he's also showing some solid D capabilities. This guy is gonna be something.
His shift in the first period is a "Shift of the year condidate". Absolutely insane.
He picked up an assist on Darche's goal, he blocked a 2 on 1 and a few seconds later he stopped a breakaway.
There was an ungodly good, entirely thrilling, ovation-provoking stretch by defenceman P.K. Subban as the period wore on — howitzer shots, deft stickhandling, spinning on a dime, diving to block or sweep away Islanders shots, one shift that finally led to a Mathieu Darche tip-in of a Jeff Halpern blast for the Canadiens’ second goal.
Imagine what this kid Subban will look like five years down the road, when he’s no longer wet behind the ears.
http://www.faceoff.com/Cammalleri+Niederreiter+stick+hockey+this+time/3737263/story.html
freeweed
Oct 28, 2010, 2:17 PM
If thats the conclusion you draw from my post then more power to you I guess.
Many people expected Price to fail under the pressure. Just pointing out that SO FAR he's proving everyone wrong. I never said this is how the whole season will go, im not a leafs fan.
And many people expected the Flames to completely suck this year.
9 games do not make a goalie, exactly the same as 9 games do not make a team.
Besides, I don't know that I've heard too many people that didn't expect Price to be able to win 6 games this season. All I saw were people saying that Halak would have been a better choice.
Rico Rommheim
Oct 28, 2010, 2:27 PM
Looks at them laughs go! Interesting.
Also, I said it before and I'll say it again, the price is Fuckin' Good mofos.
That is all.
Tom Servo
Oct 28, 2010, 4:32 PM
The ATM line (Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Cammalleri) has a combined 25 pts and are +21.
The biggest surprise for me is Kostitsyn. We all knew he was skilled as hell but this guy can actually play defense.:sly:
PP still sucks but will get a huge boost this weekend with Markov coming back.
Currently dead with only 6.2%:(
http://bit.ly/bPW8UR
wow, kostitsyn is so hot i added him to my roster... good move it would seem for now...
Coldrsx
Oct 28, 2010, 8:54 PM
Oilers better man up tonight and stop this slide... Khabi is getting a rest.
Darkoshvilli
Oct 28, 2010, 9:18 PM
And many people expected the Flames to completely suck this year.
9 games do not make a goalie, exactly the same as 9 games do not make a team.
Besides, I don't know that I've heard too many people that didn't expect Price to be able to win 6 games this season. All I saw were people saying that Halak would have been a better choice.
Oh really? Then you haven't been to other boards like I have where people expected Auld to take over the starting job by late October.
Nicko999
Oct 29, 2010, 12:52 AM
Jacques Martin confirmed Markov will play on Saturday.:tup:
BTW-
Subban and the Norris Winner
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5782/scr1288313243.png
;)
Nicko999
Oct 29, 2010, 1:53 AM
His shift in the first period is a "Shift of the year condidate". Absolutely insane.
He picked up an assist on Darche's goal, he blocked a 2 on 1 and a few seconds later he stopped a breakaway.
http://www.faceoff.com/Cammalleri+Niederreiter+stick+hockey+this+time/3737263/story.html
His amazing shift is here...
http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl-games-on-demand/islanders-vs-canadiens/#clip366833
watch from 20min to 24 min(the assist+the 2 defensive plays)
BTW-The Laughs scored an insane amount of goals... 0 and lost. No Leafs fan to be found on this thread tonight.:haha:
Nicko999
Oct 29, 2010, 4:40 AM
Jaroslav Halak with another SO...:worship:
Look at that... Halak's team has the best point % in the NHL while Price's team is in second.
http://bit.ly/cVzAYt
Oh and one last thing... Here is our PP % before Markov comes back.
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/1411/scr1288327205.png
Horrible I know!
Yume-sama
Oct 29, 2010, 4:50 AM
Is Tim Thomas even human? Someone should conduct tests.
Poetic timing for the Leafs to be shutout, when NHL.com's top article is "Why the Leafs can win the cup"
Oh, and Seguin scoring on the Leafs while Kessel is on the ice, and the crowd chanting "THANK YOU, KESSEL!" :haha: :tup:
freeweed
Oct 29, 2010, 5:24 AM
Wow, the Flames were bad tonight, but at least we didn't get our asses handed to us by the winning side of a lopsided deal.
Calgarian
Oct 29, 2010, 2:04 PM
Flames played good up until the 3rd, there they only managed 3 shots on net. I don't get why these guys always assume the game is over when they go up by a couple goals.
LeftCoaster
Oct 29, 2010, 2:41 PM
They are just so old they cant keep it up until the finish ;)
Yume-sama
Oct 29, 2010, 3:55 PM
It doesn't help that every shot the Avs took either hit the post or went in, no matter how far away and harmless it was.
Karlsson should have been pulled after the third goal, he was noticeably shaken.
He probably should never have been allowed to play against a divisional rival, but that's a whole 'nother story.
I mean, if you had to play him, play him against Washington so at least our loss would be entertaining when Ovechkin schools him.
Ayreonaut
Oct 29, 2010, 4:01 PM
He probably should never have been allowed to play against a divisional rival, but that's a whole 'nother story.
That's exactly what I thought even in the first period. The Flames should have taken full advantage of playing against an Avs team without their star goalie. I think Calgary figured that since Anderson was out, they could get away with letting Kipper rest for the game. Divisional games are the most important, and Kipper should play in every one of them.
Yume-sama
Oct 29, 2010, 4:02 PM
The only consolation the Flames can take from this game, as was pointed out on The Fan960, we can go back to Kipper on Saturday, but the Avs are stuck with Budaj for the foreseeable future. And boy, was he almost as bad as Karlsson was :P I say almost, because, we scored a few goals that were actually pretty good.
Coldrsx
Oct 29, 2010, 4:07 PM
Can someone tell the media to stop saying things like
"the oilers are 2-23-1 on the road since jan 10"
fuck
freeweed
Oct 29, 2010, 4:17 PM
It doesn't help that every shot the Avs took either hit the post or went in, no matter how far away and harmless it was.
I'll place 50% or more of the blame on our incredibly inept D and forwards last night. The Avs just managed to have quality shots every time. A good part of that is caused by non-existent D, constant giveaways, and guys just never battling for the puck.
For those that don't follow the Flames too closely, this is just deja vu all over again. This team has always shat on its backup goaltenders no matter how good or bad they are. Look at McIlhenney - he took something like 10 games to get his first win for the Flames but has been well over .500 in Anaheim.
I don't know what it is, but having watched nearly every Flames game since the lockout, me and her always get scared when they play a backup. Because 90% of the time, the team just does not come out to play in front. Which of course quickly destroys the backup's confidence, which is why we never have the same one more than 10 games or so.
Yume-sama
Oct 29, 2010, 4:20 PM
The team usually doesn't play in front of Kiprusoff either, he just earns every penny of his money :P We don't play extra bad when a backup is in net, the Kiprusoff factor is just taken away, which means things like JUICY rebounds in the slot, etc. Kiprusoff has the ability to control play by controlling and holding on to the puck, so it slows it down for us.
freeweed
Oct 29, 2010, 4:48 PM
I can't really argue any of that. :P
It just seems like they completely abandon their backups. Every year we hear "THIS is the guy who'll finally give Kipper some rest", and every year Kipper ends up starting 70+ games. God forbid we actually make the playoffs and last past the first round - the dude will be dead on his feet.
On the bright side, did I mention that Seguin scored last night?
Yume-sama
Oct 29, 2010, 5:58 PM
On the bright side, did I mention that Seguin scored last night?
While Phil was on the ice no less ;)
The Boston crowd is ruthless :D Though, Phil is still lucky he didn't demand a trade from Philly. Those people are insane! :haha:
MrOilers
Oct 29, 2010, 6:29 PM
It just seems like they completely abandon their backups.
In my opinion, Kiprusoff is the #1 reason for the Flames' ability to compete for a playoff spot for the last 6 seasons, and is the only reason Sutter hasn't been fired from his GM position with that team. Kipper is the difference in every Flames win.
The Flames are a good team with Kipper, but they are bad team without him.
freeweed
Oct 29, 2010, 7:00 PM
Again, can't really argue here.
The_Architect
Oct 29, 2010, 7:34 PM
Wow, the Flames were bad tonight, but at least we didn't get our asses handed to us by the winning side of a lopsided deal.
2 things:
1. 2-0 isn't getting our asses handed to us. We played well. They played better. Kessel wasn't himself, he let the crowd get to him.
2. It is waaaaayyyyy to early to be deciding that it was a lopsided deal.. For all we know, Seguin is a Daigle who had a hot start.
Not saying the Leafs came out on top, I never have. Just saying as other fans had the grace to point out during our winning streak, it is way too early to come to any conclusions.
And I'd better not have people trashing this post saying it's a "typical Leaf fan", because this is about the most neutral post I have seen on this forum.
freeweed
Oct 29, 2010, 7:43 PM
Of course it's way too early; for all we know Kessel could soon be back to scoring 15 goals a season for the rest of his career.
However, it's pretty safe to say that virtually every hockey analyst thought this trade was lopsided from day one, even more lopsided considering the Leafs gave up a #2 pick as a result, and it could end up going down as one of the stupidest trades of all time if Toronto doesn't seriously perform well this year. Just imagine if Boston gets another #2 (or even a #1) pick next year. The only people who speak positively about this trade are Leafs fans at this point, and I can't see many of them thinking that way if the team gives up another top pick.
Here I thought the Flames had a monopoly on mortgaging your future on unproven players, but thankfully Burke is still around.
The_Architect
Oct 29, 2010, 7:49 PM
Of course it's way too early; for all we know Kessel could soon be back to scoring 15 goals a season for the rest of his career.
However, it's pretty safe to say that virtually every hockey analyst thought this trade was lopsided from day one, even more lopsided considering the Leafs gave up a #2 pick as a result, and it could end up going down as one of the stupidest trades of all time if Toronto doesn't seriously perform well this year. Just imagine if Boston gets another #2 (or even a #1) pick next year. The only people who speak positively about this trade are Leafs fans at this point, and I can't see many of them thinking that way if the team gives up another top pick.
Here I thought the Flames had a monopoly on mortgaging your future on unproven players, but thankfully Burke is still around.
I agree, I thought the Kessel trade would have been fine if ti was 1 first rounder and 1 second rounder.. its the other first rounder where it starts to lean towards Boston.
Oh well, hopefully the Leafs will decide to score, or shoot the damn puck even, in the rest of their games.
As always, no matter what, Go Leafs Go!
reidjr
Oct 29, 2010, 8:24 PM
I went to the ottawa-florida game last night ticket was $15 yes that sounds all good.However that $15 ticket is really $25 on the $15 ticket there was $10 in service fees.I am not sure if this is just ottawa or is this common.
Flamesrule
Oct 29, 2010, 8:29 PM
Ugh, and Flames give up a 3-1 lead again. I feel bad for Karlsson.
bulliver
Oct 29, 2010, 8:30 PM
That's a steal, service charge or not. Minimum $65 for a ticket in Edmonton (for crap seats), more for Vancouver. Is Ottawa having trouble packing them in?
reidjr
Oct 29, 2010, 8:38 PM
That's a steal, service charge or not. Minimum $65 for a ticket in Edmonton (for crap seats), more for Vancouver. Is Ottawa having trouble packing them in?
There not good seats way up top in the family zone.Attendance has been down it has more to do with the rink not beeing downtown.
Ayreonaut
Oct 29, 2010, 8:41 PM
Yeah, it must be a pain in the ass to have to go to Kanata to attend games. I'd be pissed if the Flames were to build an arena in Airdrie.
bulliver
Oct 29, 2010, 8:44 PM
Yes, the $65 tickets are waaaaaay up in the relatively unknown third deck of Rexall. Literal nosebleeds. At least $100 for anything where you can actually tell what's going on.
The_Architect
Oct 29, 2010, 9:07 PM
Yes, the $65 tickets are waaaaaay up in the relatively unknown third deck of Rexall. Literal nosebleeds. At least $100 for anything where you can actually tell what's going on.
$65!!!!!!!!! :hell:
I have to go to the ACC and shell out $100 to sit behind a pillar on a milk crate!
Yume-sama
Oct 29, 2010, 9:51 PM
Don't forget the other part of the Kessel deal; Jared Knight. Widely considered an absolute steal at 32nd overall.
AM2ludeR0BM
He's in ridiculous shape already~
And as Darren Dreger pointed out, moving Kessel allowed the Bruins to trade their own 1st round to get Horton and Campbell.
But what's done is done :D, eh?
Darkoshvilli
Oct 30, 2010, 2:30 AM
If you told me before the season that the Habs would be 7-2-1 10 games into the season while being last on the powerplay, without their best player and with the second line non-existent I'd shit my pants laughing.
Flamesrule
Oct 30, 2010, 2:36 AM
Yeah I(we except nicko) thought price would be terrible along with everyone else,but we were all wrong. Anyway since karlsson lost, I wonder when we will see him in net again.
MrOilers
Oct 30, 2010, 3:52 AM
Oilers beat the Hawks convincingly tonight. I bet nobody saw that coming.
freeweed
Oct 30, 2010, 4:40 AM
That's a steal, service charge or not. Minimum $65 for a ticket in Edmonton (for crap seats), more for Vancouver. Is Ottawa having trouble packing them in?
Calgary still has the extreme nosebleeds in the $25-30 range, if you go to Sportchek. Edmonton is just insanely expensive because it has 3000 fewer seats. And as pointed out, Toronto is even more expensive.
Ottawa still mostly sells out from what I've heard.
freeweed
Oct 30, 2010, 4:42 AM
Oilers beat the Hawks convincingly tonight. I bet nobody saw that coming.
I didn't see the game but heard the score. Doesn't surprise me after I saw them beat the living snot out of the Flames at the season opener. I bet the Oil does this all season - plays some really really poor games, then totally destroys the opposition for a night or three. All part of a highly-skilled, very young team.
The Flames play the same way, except we know they're never going to get consistent with winning. At least the Oil has a chance in 2-3 years of being a serious contender, if they keep building on this. Eberle is positively SCARY good.
Yume-sama
Oct 30, 2010, 5:09 AM
Marty Turco was a huge mistake for Chicago.
Nicko999
Oct 30, 2010, 5:23 AM
Best team in the NHL with 15 pts... all this without Markov (who will be back tomorrow).:cheers:
I didn't watch the game but I heard Auld was solid. Nice to see the backup play so well!:)
Darkoshvilli
Oct 30, 2010, 5:31 AM
Auld was really good, especially considering it was his first game in 9 months.
PhilippeMtl
Oct 30, 2010, 12:04 PM
Impressive wins by oilers !
It is just me or Leafs fans are more quiet now?
Rico Rommheim
Oct 30, 2010, 1:36 PM
^fitting isn't it that the leafs always seem to fall in the dying days of october?
Mister F
Oct 30, 2010, 1:50 PM
It is just me or Leafs fans are more quiet now?
Leafs fans have always been quiet on this thread. Well, except for cal, but he's just here to stir the pot. Say what you want about the Kessel trade, he's their only serious goal scorer right now. Burke built winners in Anaheim and Vancouver and he can do the same in Toronto. He got rid of Toskala after all :tup:
You may now continue the bashing.
reidjr
Oct 30, 2010, 1:53 PM
Leafs fans have always been quiet on this thread. Well, except for cal, but he's just here to stir the pot. Say what you want about the Kessel trade, he's their only serious goal scorer right now. Burke built winners in Anaheim and Vancouver and he can do the same in Toronto. He got rid of Toskala after all :tup:
You may now continue the bashing.
He could but it will take time it will not take a year.The kessel deal could work out well or backfire if he walks at the end of his contract that means the leafs would have gained nothing from the deal.
Yume-sama
Oct 30, 2010, 4:50 PM
Impressive wins by oilers !
It is just me or Leafs fans are more quiet now?
Yeah, both TSN and NHL.com stopped posting about why the "Leafs can win the cup"~
caltrane74
Oct 30, 2010, 5:07 PM
The leafs just need to get on a hot streak, they cant go the way their going with just 2 guys scoring goals. We need versteeg, Bozak, and Phaneuf to bring up their production, so I can go back to mocking the lowly Canadian teams from the perpetrating like they belong in the NHL.
Bdog
Oct 30, 2010, 5:08 PM
Here's hoping for another sub-10,000 fan showing in Phoenix tonight...Perhaps then Hulsizer will realize the futility of buying the team, and abondon those plans before it's too late...
freeweed
Oct 30, 2010, 5:26 PM
Here's hoping for another sub-10,000 fan showing in Phoenix tonight...Perhaps then Hulsizer will realize the futility of buying the team, and abondon those plans before it's too late...
Bettman has moved from saying "imminent deal" to "if a deal is done" in recent interviews. Read into that what you will.
feepa
Oct 30, 2010, 11:10 PM
HAha Anyone who believes Burke built winning teams in Anaheim or especially Vancouver hasn't really followed either team.
freeweed
Oct 31, 2010, 12:47 AM
HAha Anyone who believes Burke built winning teams in Anaheim or especially Vancouver hasn't really followed either team.
Anaheim maybe, at least they won something under Burke - although arguably most of the talent on that team predates his being there. But yeah - Vancouver under Burke did what, exactly? The Flames have had more success before and after Burke's reign, but I don't see people constantly talking about how Sutter "built a winner" like they do with Vancouver.
Here's hoping for another sub-10,000 fan showing in Phoenix tonight...Perhaps then Hulsizer will realize the futility of buying the team, and abondon those plans before it's too late...
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