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Innersoul1
Sep 16, 2010, 6:48 PM
With the new renderings and website up for University City it would appear that a number of us are pretty excited about this project. It certainly seems to be the first project with a really competitive price point. I am wondering what you all think!

elconsulto
Sep 16, 2010, 7:24 PM
I won't be going to UofC but I think it's a pretty good idea. I would like to see more decent affordable housing in the area.

Surrealplaces
Sep 18, 2010, 12:04 AM
I'm glad to see the first project to get the Brentwood TOD rolling is something affordable. I doubt they'll have much of a problem selling the units, even in the slow market.

Riise
Sep 18, 2010, 12:52 PM
I have a bit of a special interest in this project/area. If I were to move back to Calgary I'd want to live in a vibrant and active area but also close to my nephew and his future siblings. With my sister living in Brentwood the Brentwood Station TOD would be perfect. As such, I have high hopse for this project and would like to see it help the area get off to a good start. It looks good, rather promising. I'll probably be making more money back in Calgary but cheaper multifamily housing would be very appealing. I really like the affordable aspect of this project, which might help with any success it may have.

SmokWawelski
Sep 18, 2010, 2:37 PM
Like the project very much. It's time we started filling those awful surface parking lots with density. Perfect location for it. Close to shopping, close to the LRT, close to Crowchild Trail. I wonder if the $199,999.00 price point will stay around for a while or it's just a teaser....and as soon as construction starts the prices will start climbing. Time will tell, I guess.....

Policy Wonk
Sep 18, 2010, 7:35 PM
http://www.universitycity.ca/uploads/images/university-city-rendering.jpg
www.universitycity.ca

I don't think that is enough to go on, aesthetically speaking.

Affordable anything is always positive in a market like Calgary, although i'm not sold on Brentwood as a solid TOD location.

Enthusiasm to be based on how many units actually wind up being owner occupied. In Toronto investors suck up all the economy units in any given new building in minutes. Developers host private sales parties for investors so they might buy everything in sight before anyone else gets a crack at them.

But the pricing trend is positive no matter what,

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs645.snc4/60577_147377618632191_146576208712332_194680_2669569_n.jpg

Wooster
Sep 18, 2010, 8:55 PM
The person who wrote the plan for this TOD is a genius. I have no doubts the area will turn out well. :cool:

Policy Wonk
Sep 18, 2010, 10:20 PM
The only likely outcome I see for Brentwood is total gridlock in every form imaginable. I think TOD is great, just don't set it up to fail.

Ignoring cars, roads and parking requirements entirely... 201 is already at the point of dysfunction during rush hour with its present passenger catchment, how does introducing thousands more of what are theoretically supposed to be new transit using residents, to the middle of the route lead to an acceptable outcome?

Unless this is to become an annex of U of C the real external transportation challenges need to be confronted, and four car C-Trains will still be full before they get to Brentwood.

artvandelay
Sep 19, 2010, 12:02 AM
There are many wealthy parents who often will buy condos near the university as an investment when their kids reach university, I'm sure that this project will be very attractive to them. I agree that train capacity will need to be expanded in the future, but from my experience the NW line is nowhere near as crowded as the South line in the mornings.

Me&You
Sep 19, 2010, 12:05 AM
There are many wealthy parents who often will buy condos near the university as an investment when their kids reach university, I'm sure that this project will be very attractive to them. I agree that train capacity will need to be expanded in the future, but from my experience the NW line is nowhere near as crowded as the South line in the mornings.

I think what Policy Wonk is saying (and I have to agree), is that these 'wealthy parents' won't even have a chance to buy up the $199 units, as they'll all have been sold to the developer's 'investors' prior to the project hitting the actual market.

I love the idea of this project. I'd like to hear Wooster's comments on the accessibility.

Wooster
Sep 19, 2010, 12:38 AM
The operational capacity of the c-train is a bit of a different issue that what is the most appropriate land use surrounding the station. All things being equal, it's a lot more efficient for more people to be living adjacent to Brentwood Station, The Research Park and U of C than out on the fringe of the city instead.

Here's the Mobility and Assessment Plan for the area.

http://www.calgary.ca/DocGallery/BU/trans_planning/development_services/brentwood_mobility_assessment_plan.pdf

Policy Wonk
Sep 19, 2010, 1:13 AM
The operational capacity of the c-train is a bit of a different issue that what is the most appropriate land use surrounding the station. All things being equal, it's a lot more efficient for more people to be living adjacent to Brentwood Station, The Research Park and U of C than out on the fringe of the city instead.


At which point you have stopped planning and begun day dreaming about density. Gridlock is not efficient at any population density.

Land use, and especially transit oriented land use and the capacity of transit into the said area is inextricably linked. What happens when the operational capacity is exceeded to the point transit is intolerable? People will turn to private vehicles in a community that will have been designed to be unaccommodating to them, which only contributes further to the gridlock they began driving to escape from.

MR. Cosmopolitan
Sep 19, 2010, 2:04 AM
The operational capacity of the c-train is a bit of a different issue that what is the most appropriate land use surrounding the station. All things being equal, it's a lot more efficient for more people to be living adjacent to Brentwood Station, The Research Park and U of C than out on the fringe of the city instead.

I think you are completely correct on this. Making the stations larger to accomodate bigger trains and buying more trains is much more cheap and easy to handle for a city than the consequences of sprawl, the astronomical expenses in all kinds of infrastructure needed to create new buildable land and the very costly extensions on transitways, the gridlock and the pollution caused by more cars on the roads.

Create density around the light rail stations is the best thing Calgary can and surelly will do in the near future (intensely), because the centralisec urban structure, in what respects office jobs and the very well developed public transit system Calgary has, just begs for it.

Policy Wonk
Sep 19, 2010, 2:16 AM
It doesn't work that way, you can't just keep adding more and more longer trains until all are satisfied because the surface crossings and reduced speed at which the LRT operates through the core are a hard limit we have already hit. And obviously a train can't be longer than a city block downtown.

Trains already get backed up all the way to SAIT.

MR. Cosmopolitan
Sep 19, 2010, 2:41 AM
It doesn't work that way, you can't just keep adding more and more longer trains until all are satisfied because the surface crossings and reduced speed at which the LRT operates through the core are a hard limit we have already hit. And obviously a train can't be longer than a city block downtown.

Trains already get backed up all the way to SAIT.

Good point, I think this would prevent for a while the debelopment around the stations until the underground light rail gets built.

I think that the residential debelopment should focus more on the downtown and the areas surounding it while development around the stations isn't feaseble. Afterwards when the light rail is upgraded I would say development around the stations would be perfectly possible.

This condos seem to be for the students that work in the university, I wouldn't oppose their construction right now.

Policy Wonk
Sep 19, 2010, 3:04 AM
i'm not opposed to it being built, there are already high-rise apartments nearby - I just think the degree of intensification that is being planned along an LRT route that is already at the breaking point is planning at its worst.

When most cities look to TOD they are looking to improve utilization of a poorly utilized transit resource or planning for TOD from day one on a new one. Calgary is approaching TOD with an LRT system that is breaking under the strain of existing ridership and just pretending it can effectively absorb more.

Jimby
Sep 19, 2010, 7:44 AM
i'm not opposed to it being built, there are already high-rise apartments nearby - I just think the degree of intensification that is being planned along an LRT route that is already at the breaking point is planning at its worst.

When most cities look to TOD they are looking to improve utilization of a poorly utilized transit resource or planning for TOD from day one on a new one. Calgary is approaching TOD with an LRT system that is breaking under the strain of existing ridership and just pretending it can effectively absorb more.

Wouldn't it be nice if the people who worked at the U, or in Research Park/ Smart Tech bought the condos at this planned development and walked to work and school, walked to their neighbourhood services and appointments and didn't add to the CTrain's "breaking point" which is a term I don't believe represents the reality of the situation.

Policy Wonk
Sep 19, 2010, 8:13 AM
In the time I have lived in my house I have worked in seven different locations for four different companies, how many home owners are going to relocate every time they change jobs? To say nothing of two-income families. One of my relatives worked for eight different companies in the last decade, the life of a contractor.

And how do you describe the C-Train at rush hour or over-all capacity outlook?

Where does the next capacity increase come from after the addition of four car trains, which will only partially catch up with present peak demand?

The C-Train is successful, but it doesn't have infinite capacity, it is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. (that analogy has to apply to something)

Riise
Sep 19, 2010, 1:52 PM
I understand the point Policy Wonk had made and it is a valid concern. In the land-use and transportation planning nexus, I think it would fall on the transportation side. Increasing the capacity or speed of the CTrain is something I was actually thinking about last week, I had an interesting thought; just like our urban form maybe we should go up rather than out. Are there any metro systems that use double-decker trains? The closest I can think of is the RER. Bi-level trains could make the CTrain's high-level platforms a useful feature after-all. However, the heights of our tunnels might rule this option out.

Cowtown_Tim
Sep 19, 2010, 3:28 PM
Excellent investment property. You'll never have a problem renting it out.

Innersoul1
Sep 19, 2010, 3:35 PM
Interesting that Knightsbridge is a home building company. Those of you familiar with the Tuscany area of town will have seen their Villas along Stoney. Interesting that a primarily low-rise builder has moved into the high-rise market.

Their is some validity to the comment about investors scooping up the majority of suites. But that being said new rules on down payments certainly means that this is a trickier task. i would say that there will be a lot of interest from buyers. Let's face it. With the price point the builder is smart to market towards the investor. The should sell out the project. As the area continues to develop we will surely see a diversity in the price-point and the type of projects appealing to the scope of the market.

WhipperSnapper
Sep 19, 2010, 3:37 PM
How can anyone decide on the design with such an amateurish rendering?

I wonder how small the studios will be? Is 380 square feet out of question?

The building should sell extremely well. The partner, Metropia, is a relatively new , relatively unheard of company however, there is a ton of experience, a ton of money, and a ton of political power behind it. The local population doesn't need to buy a single unit for this to sell out in hours/days. Yeah, those 60 units will be long gone before the sales office opens to everyone.

Policy Wonk
Sep 19, 2010, 8:27 PM
I understand the point Policy Wonk had made and it is a valid concern. In the land-use and transportation planning nexus, I think it would fall on the transportation side. Increasing the capacity or speed of the CTrain is something I was actually thinking about last week, I had an interesting thought; just like our urban form maybe we should go up rather than out. Are there any metro systems that use double-decker trains? The closest I can think of is the RER. Bi-level trains could make the CTrain's high-level platforms a useful feature after-all. However, the heights of our tunnels might rule this option out.

It is possible to further excavate a tunnel to accommodate stacked cars, but it will take a tunnel out of commission for several years. It will also displace stations near the tunnels. Any system will be constrained by decisions made at the outset.

WhipperSnapper
Sep 19, 2010, 8:39 PM
Obviously theory and practice are two different things but isn't this TOD planned as a self contained live/work community? You would hope some of the future residents will choose to live here to be able to walk to work and avoid commuting altogether.

Wooster
Sep 19, 2010, 9:50 PM
Yes, not only that, but this area including the University and growing research park will increasingly bring reverse commuters to the NW.

Policy Wonk
Sep 19, 2010, 10:23 PM
Obviously theory and practice are two different things but isn't this TOD planned as a self contained live/work community? You would hope some of the future residents will choose to live here to be able to walk to work and avoid commuting altogether.

I think you are melding two different things, mixed-use and TOD are not necessarily linked. I don't think it would be a bad thing but I don't see enormous white collar employment clusters springing up outside of downtown.

With the exception of the core, making housing decisions around the assumption you are going to be working in an area for the foreseeable future seems unwise.

Chinook Arch
Sep 19, 2010, 11:07 PM
How can anyone decide on the design with such an amateurish rendering?

I wonder how small the studios will be? Is 380 square feet out of question?

The building should sell extremely well. The partner, Metropia, is a relatively new , relatively unheard of company however, there is a ton of experience, a ton of money, and a ton of political power behind it. The local population doesn't need to buy a single unit for this to sell out in hours/days. Yeah, those 60 units will be long gone before the sales office opens to everyone.

The rendering is vague, but I'm interested mostly in the general massing, which looks good to me. The best thing about this project (for me) is that it gets the Brentwood TOD going.

rapid_business
Sep 20, 2010, 1:42 PM
/\ Agreed. Rendering is vague and tells you very little. But the pricing is aggressive and the location for such is optimal. They won't have a problem moving the units, but their inexperience in multi-family might lead to some PM problems.

mersar
Sep 20, 2010, 2:44 PM
I think that their inexperience in tower-based multi-family is why they partnered with Metropia from Toronto (one of their current projects is Emerald Park, which is a 41 and 32 story set of condo towers in North York). Knightsbridge has done several other multifamily projects before, but its the more villas style lowrise out in the newer communities (Tuscany, Aspen Woods)

atlas_inc
Sep 28, 2010, 7:31 PM
Taken off the Facebook Page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/University-City/146576208712332?ref=ts

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3063/34425149841591719127146.jpg

rapid_business
Sep 28, 2010, 10:01 PM
I mean if you are set on stucco because it is cheap and you don't know any better, fine. But to choose that colour? I mean.... come on! :duh

McMahon
Sep 28, 2010, 10:08 PM
I understand the point Policy Wonk had made and it is a valid concern. In the land-use and transportation planning nexus, I think it would fall on the transportation side. Increasing the capacity or speed of the CTrain is something I was actually thinking about last week, I had an interesting thought; just like our urban form maybe we should go up rather than out. Are there any metro systems that use double-decker trains? The closest I can think of is the RER. Bi-level trains could make the CTrain's high-level platforms a useful feature after-all. However, the heights of our tunnels might rule this option out.

Not just the height of the tunnels, but quite a few stations would have to be rebuilt... Stampede stations, Chinook, Heritage, Southland, Anderson to name a few.

MR. Cosmopolitan
Sep 28, 2010, 10:31 PM
Not just the height of the tunnels, but quite a few stations would have to be rebuilt... Stampede stations, Chinook, Heritage, Southland, Anderson to name a few.

There is also the isue of weight. As far as I know the C-train tracks are only ment to be used by light trains, not by heavy trains and double-decked trains are usually heavy trains.

Riise
Sep 29, 2010, 1:35 AM
Not just the height of the tunnels, but quite a few stations would have to be rebuilt... Stampede stations, Chinook, Heritage, Southland, Anderson to name a few.

Good point, I use to ride the 202 so I didn't even think about this issue.


There is also the isue of weight. As far as I know the C-train tracks are only ment to be used by light trains, not by heavy trains and double-decked trains are usually heavy trains.

The light and heavy in LRT and heavy rail corresponds to the capacity of the rail vehicles and not their weight. IIRC, quite often LRVs actually outweigh subway cars.

Policy Wonk
Sep 29, 2010, 4:40 AM
Subways cars are in a world all their own outside of the light vs. heavy rail distinction.

Bassic Lab
Sep 29, 2010, 7:12 AM
In the time I have lived in my house I have worked in seven different locations for four different companies, how many home owners are going to relocate every time they change jobs? To say nothing of two-income families. One of my relatives worked for eight different companies in the last decade, the life of a contractor.

And how do you describe the C-Train at rush hour or over-all capacity outlook?

Where does the next capacity increase come from after the addition of four car trains, which will only partially catch up with present peak demand?

The C-Train is successful, but it doesn't have infinite capacity, it is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. (that analogy has to apply to something)

Capacity could be increased quite substantially. Five car platforms could be implemented on the NW and S lines with the addition of the Eighth Avenue Subway since train lengths will no longer be constrained by the length of blocks on 7th Ave. If that is done we can have a 66% increase in train capacity (over current three car trains) and a 100% plus increase in number of trains. It more than triples the current capacity of those lines. If we ever need more capacity than that we might need to get creative but it is a problem that is decades in the future at the earliest.

Riise
Sep 29, 2010, 12:04 PM
If we ever need more capacity than that we might need to get creative but it is a problem that is decades in the future at the earliest.

Thing is, the actions we take today will decide what actions we can take in the future. For instance, the operational envelope used today has strongly affected our ability to run double-decker trains in the future.

bookermorgan
Sep 29, 2010, 1:02 PM
I also like University City.........

MR. Cosmopolitan
Sep 29, 2010, 4:42 PM
To this problem of overcrowding in the c-train, I think that the best solution would be to separate the lines downtown by building new tracks either underground or at grade one block away from the present tracks. That would double the possible frequency of both lines.

Bassic Lab
Sep 29, 2010, 4:44 PM
Thing is, the actions we take today will decide what actions we can take in the future. For instance, the operational envelope used today has strongly affected our ability to run double-decker trains in the future.

If five car consists running at the maximum headway allowed by the Eighth Avenue Subway is not enough then there are plenty of solutions beyond running double-decker trains on the C-Train line. A comprehensive commuter rail system coupled with additional rapid transit lines should be capable of keeping that level of service on the NW-S line viable indefinitely.

Really, double-decker trains seem much better suited to commuter rail systems with fewer stops than rapid transit systems. The longer egress times are less of an issue on a system with a single terminus, downtown, and fewer stops in general.

bookermorgan
Sep 29, 2010, 6:06 PM
Hmm I wonder when the sales centre for University City will open....

mersar
Sep 29, 2010, 6:54 PM
Hmm I wonder when the sales centre for University City will open....

Not long based on their facebook page, I'm curious as to where it is (probably in an empty bay in the mall there?). We're probably a year away from construction still, at the absolute least.

Wooster
Sep 29, 2010, 6:57 PM
Not long based on their facebook page, I'm curious as to where it is (probably in an empty bay in the mall there?). We're probably a year away from construction still, at the absolute least.

I had heard a while back that it was going to be in that car or dog wash or whatever it was between the strip mall that's coming down and the main mall.

Me&You
Sep 29, 2010, 7:11 PM
I had heard a while back that it was going to be in that car or dog wash or whatever it was between the strip mall that's coming down and the main mall.

Booo! That's a great car wash and I seem to remember several empty retail bays that would be much better suited to a sales centre.

Riise
Sep 29, 2010, 7:58 PM
Really, double-decker trains seem much better suited to commuter rail systems with fewer stops than rapid transit systems.

In my last post, I was just using double-decker trains as an example. There could be other infrastructure changes that would need to be considered during system upgrades.

bookermorgan
Sep 29, 2010, 8:32 PM
Hopefully this sells quickly, and sparks more projects.

My main reason for posting was to try to break up the deRAILment of the thread...

atlas_inc
Sep 29, 2010, 9:27 PM
I was down there the other day and there is a large bay that has been painted black next to the car wash. Someone should go down and take some pictures!

atlas_inc
Oct 12, 2010, 4:32 PM
Found this in the Sun on Saturday:
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4761/calgarysun.jpg

DizzyEdge
Oct 12, 2010, 5:14 PM
^^ I dig it.
Anyone know what parcels other than the KFC will be included in this?

ksnaden
Oct 12, 2010, 5:39 PM
I have been told that it's not stucco

polishavenger
Oct 12, 2010, 5:55 PM
Not too shabby. For the low price point and given the location, I think it will do well. I'm not 100% on the colours, but all in all thumbs up from me. I want to see a more detailed drawing of the main floor, would be nice if it had some retail bays.

Wooster
Oct 12, 2010, 6:37 PM
^ There are retail bays on the north side of the building, fronting onto what is planned as a commercial main street across the length of the TOD area.

You can see it on this rendering:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/joshwhit/universitycity.jpg

rapid_business
Oct 12, 2010, 6:51 PM
/\ that is a little better. I was worried about the building disconnect from the street as it appeared in the rendering above.

CorporateWhore
Oct 12, 2010, 8:06 PM
I like how the tenants went out and bought fancy Audi SUV's from all the money they saved on the condo purchase.

DizzyEdge
Oct 12, 2010, 8:08 PM
I like how the tenants went out and bought fancy Audi SUV's from all the money they saved on the condo purchase.

That's vehicles of the investors who snapped up all the low cost condos before entry-level homeowners could. They're checking on their rental properties.

DizzyEdge
Oct 12, 2010, 8:12 PM
^ There are retail bays on the north side of the building, fronting onto what is planned as a commercial main street across the length of the TOD area.

You can see it on this rendering:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/joshwhit/universitycity.jpg

I kind of wish the curviness of the coloured part was actually that way rather than perspective distortion.

atlas_inc
Oct 12, 2010, 8:18 PM
That's vehicles of the investors who snapped up all the low cost condos before entry-level homeowners could. They're checking on their rental properties.

You're both wrong. They're all stopping by Starbucks for a coffee!

CorporateWhore
Oct 12, 2010, 8:42 PM
That's vehicles of the investors who snapped up all the low cost condos before entry-level homeowners could. They're checking on their rental properties.

It's probably that Josh W. guy....I heard that fatcat bought up all the land, and then went and designed some fancy-pants plan to reap the benefits. He's probably trolling on these very boards, pimping it up every chance he gets.

polishavenger
Oct 12, 2010, 8:48 PM
It's probably that Josh W. guy....I heard that fatcat bought up all the land, and then went and designed some fancy-pants plan to reap the benefits. He's probably trolling on these very boards, pimping it up every chance he gets.

The guy is a bloody menace.:haha:

ksnaden
Oct 12, 2010, 11:41 PM
The building will also have two floors of parking.

bob1954
Oct 13, 2010, 3:30 AM
I wish they'd get yellow out of there.

bookermorgan
Oct 13, 2010, 2:34 PM
Thank you for your overwhelming response. We now have more pre-registrants than we have homes available at UniversityCity.ca. For the past 2 weeks we have been working very hard to give you, our pre-registrants, even better prices; and have been successful. As of today we have increased the number homes under $199,900 from 60 to 88.
Starting October 18th we will be contacting you, in the order of your registration, to come to our new sales centre and see for yourself what a great value UniversityCity.ca really is.
We will be in touch very, very soon!
Until then, keep spreading the word.

PDF Here (http://universitycity.ca/uploads/UC_AD.pdf)

atlas_inc
Oct 13, 2010, 5:58 PM
Turns out that it's actually 85 units under $199,900.

bookermorgan
Oct 18, 2010, 2:55 AM
Floor Plans Here! (http://www.universitycity.ca/index.php?option=com_wcmailer&ctrl=url&urlid=8&mailid=10&subid=39) (PDF)

Riise
Oct 18, 2010, 2:06 PM
Not to focus on this development alone but couldn't some of the 2 bed and 2 bath units (e.g. Units 8 & 11) be configured into 3 bed units? Setting aside the economics of this, do you think 3 beds configurations of Units 8 and 11 would fly in Calgary? Personally, I think having two bath tubs and walk-in closets could be considered an inefficient use of space.

Bigtime, you are the resident family man. What's your take?

Me&You
Oct 18, 2010, 2:48 PM
Not to focus on this development alone but couldn't some of the 2 bed and 2 bath units (e.g. Units 8 & 11) be configured into 3 bed units? Setting aside the economics of this, do you think 3 beds configurations of Units 8 and 11 would fly in Calgary? Personally, I think having two bath tubs and walk-in closets could be considered an inefficient use of space.

Bigtime, you are the resident family man. What's your take?

In the case of University City, a 3-bedroom condo wouldn't necessarily appeal to families, but to student roommates... 3-way rent split! ;)

MasterG
Oct 19, 2010, 3:52 AM
Im still a little unclear on where this is being located exactly, is it on the north side of station or the south? Like right at the station, or a bit farther away?

mersar
Oct 19, 2010, 4:05 AM
Im still a little unclear on where this is being located exactly, is it on the north side of station or the south? Like right at the station, or a bit farther away?

Essentially where KFC/Jamiesons/Pizza Hut are, north side of the station pretty much right on the pedestrian overpass.

bookermorgan
Oct 19, 2010, 5:06 PM
Here is a rough outline of the titles off SPIN

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo196/dj_drakstar/unicity.jpg

GTING
Oct 19, 2010, 5:23 PM
I was in driving by last night and noticed that they were moving in appliances for the show suite. I peeked in the door and it looks like they will be opening up shop pretty quick.

atlas_inc
Oct 19, 2010, 6:09 PM
This is where the sales centre will be.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7645/unicity.jpg

atlas_inc
Oct 19, 2010, 6:10 PM
I've also been told that Jamesons Pub will be "moved" across the street, into the other parking lot. So that's a bonus!

bookermorgan
Oct 19, 2010, 7:40 PM
Got an invite to Open House in the mail box this afternoon. Wednesday the 27th.
The missus said she would try to scan it so I can post it here.
I will not be able to attend due to a council meeting....hopefully someone from here can?

LFRENCH
Oct 19, 2010, 9:14 PM
What time is the open house at? I wouldnt mind poping in there, after a night class at the UofC

YYCguys
Oct 19, 2010, 10:14 PM
Oh darn! I am going to be out of town on business that day! Second time this month, I'm gonna miss an open house (First one was Drake17) due to work!

mersar
Oct 20, 2010, 3:48 AM
Noticed tonight that the KFC has closed down, windows are all papered over and signs are all gone. Too bad, I was thinking of running there to get a doubledown for lunch tomorrow. Means progress on the project though I guess.

bookermorgan
Oct 20, 2010, 1:45 PM
Sorry about the delay!

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo196/dj_drakstar/20101020074246_Page_1.jpg
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo196/dj_drakstar/20101020074246_Page_2.jpg

bookermorgan
Oct 22, 2010, 10:16 PM
http://www.universitycity.ca/uploads/images/news_ad.jpg

Their Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/University-City/146576208712332?v=wall)


...

MichaelS
Oct 22, 2010, 10:17 PM
Has there been a rendering or a site plan showing all 5 phases of the project yet?

atlas_inc
Oct 23, 2010, 2:24 AM
There's a bunch of FAQ's on the Facebook page tab, about the project:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/University-City/146576208712332?ref=ts

shogged
Oct 23, 2010, 5:21 AM
2 bedroom from 189000, thats a heck of a deal.

i was going to post a few days ago that london @ heritage has 1 bedrooms for just slighty less than that and is ready to move in now, but a 2 bedroom for essentially the same price is phenomenal!

atlas_inc
Oct 27, 2010, 3:52 AM
So is anyone going to the open house tomorrow?

bookermorgan
Oct 27, 2010, 3:31 PM
I will not be able to attend.

I did get my "appointment confirmation" email... it was "bring cheques!" and that was about it...

YYCguys
Oct 27, 2010, 4:48 PM
It would certainly be a good investment. I wouldn't probably owner occupy though as there will probably be too many renting university students whooping it up. But if you rented it out, you would most certainly recoup your mortgage payments (maybe even more so you could stock pile the extra income for those lean summer months when students scatter to the four corners of the earth)!

kw5150
Oct 27, 2010, 5:41 PM
I want to know wh thought it was "bad for the area" in the poll above.

YYCguys
Oct 27, 2010, 5:47 PM
Probably that NIMBY lady who spearheaded the campaign against the Brentwood TOD plan!

atlas_inc
Oct 28, 2010, 5:36 AM
Probably that NIMBY lady who spearheaded the campaign against the Brentwood TOD plan!
this forum needs a "Like" button!



I was down at the opening, they weren't selling anything but sales start on Saturday by appointment only (seemed pretty strict on that). The brentwood people seemed pretty happy about the project, many of them were asking if they could buy now but everyone had to register to get their appointment. There is a photo of the inside of the sales centre on the Facebook page.

Oil Baron
Oct 28, 2010, 3:29 PM
I recieved an email, as I am sure everyone did with an appointment for Saturday. Then recieved another email asking me to confirm. Obviously a lot of demand for this project. I pasted it below.



Welcome to University City; Calgary's Best Priced Condominiums
Exclusive
Pre-Launch Appointments for Website Registrants Only

University City
would like to thank you for registering to buy a new home.
Your exclusive priority appointment is scheduled for 2:00pm Saturday October 30, 2010.

Due to an extraordinarily large response to the launch of
University City we would ask that you help us by being on time for
your appointment.
We look forward to seeing you at University City.

Should this appointment time not be convenient please contact us and we will do
our best to accommodate your schedule.

Due to overwhelming interest, the sale of homes will be on a first come basis. We ask that you bring 2
cheques, your social
insurance number and photo ID with you when you come for your
appointment
if you wish to purchase. Please make both cheques payable to
the law firm of Bennett Jones; one for 1,000 and one for 4,000.
These will be necessary if you want to secure a new home as we will not be taking reservations.

The University City development team has over 100 years of combined building
experience and 30,000 new homes to their credit.
Our mortgage specialist will be on site to assist you.
It is our pleasure to offer food and refreshments for your visit.

We are located at 3802 Brentwood Road NW.

Deborah Werbowski
Scheduling
Co-ordinator

University
City
403-457-1750
info@universitycity.ca

tdurden5573
Oct 31, 2010, 3:13 AM
I never received an email regarding an appointment, even though I had registerred online, anyone know why that would happen? I'm assuming they didnt send an appointment to everyone.?

I looked online this evening and it looks like everything except the 343sq/ft units are sold, I cant believe this place nearly sold out in 1 day.

Any word on when phase 2 sales will be starting?

bakersdozen
Oct 31, 2010, 4:50 AM
Been away this past month but went to get a car wash in the plaza this morning and noticed the eye sore of a sales building... hadn't seen it before. There was a line up of about 40 people outside.

People are crazy to tie their money up this long in advance.

bookermorgan
Oct 31, 2010, 4:15 PM
Their Facebook Page says
University City PHASE TWO NOW LAUNCHED!
CALGARY REAL ESTATE HASN'T SEEN THIS MUCH EXCITEMENT IN YEARS!

Phase One is no longer available and Calgarians are lining up to buy units in Phase Two in the best and most affordable project in Calgary!

Make sure your friends know about UniversityCity.ca and let's show Calgary that brand new condo living IS STILL AFFORDABLE!

tdurden5573
Oct 31, 2010, 4:23 PM
Been away this past month but went to get a car wash in the plaza this morning and noticed the eye sore of a sales building... hadn't seen it before. There was a line up of about 40 people outside.

People are crazy to tie their money up this long in advance.

Agreed, however, putting 12,500 in a deposit for 2 years will yield an additional $2000 in carrying costs, which is not a lot in the grand scheme. I get more concerned putting that money into a market that has continually failed to meet expectations. If I couldn't afford to loose the $12K I wouldn't buy until I can get into the unit. In Calgary today there are a lot of good units that are finished. Like most people though, I think this location is perfect.

Has there been any release on the expected condo fees?

unibrain
Nov 1, 2010, 4:35 AM
Their Facebook Page says

Lets hope they've done their homework and this doesnt end up like what happened to Resiance (Gateway Midtown) and Rockford Developments (Skytower)... developers usually play it safe by selling a certain amount of units, build the building, and then sell the rest. The last remaining units are usually more money, where the developer can recoup any money should construction costs go up a little.

Vascilli
Nov 1, 2010, 5:45 AM
Been away this past month but went to get a car wash in the plaza this morning and noticed the eye sore of a sales building... hadn't seen it before. There was a line up of about 40 people outside.

People are crazy to tie their money up this long in advance.

My dad was in that line (briefly) on behalf of my mom, who couldn't be there herself. It was apparently a complete gong show, ie all the 40 people in the line had appointments at 10am. They obviously overbooked a bit too much.

WhipperSnapper
Nov 1, 2010, 10:35 AM
Lets hope they've done their homework and this doesnt end up like what happened to Resiance (Gateway Midtown) and Rockford Developments (Skytower)... developers usually play it safe by selling a certain amount of units, build the building, and then sell the rest. The last remaining units are usually more money, where the developer can recoup any money should construction costs go up a little.

These guys know what they are doing. Well, I don't know about Knightbridge but the Toronto side does. They're masters at finding ways to cut corners amist rising construction costs. I'm sure they have units in reserve as well.

MichaelS
Nov 1, 2010, 2:24 PM
These guys know what they are doing. Well, I don't know about Knightbridge but the Toronto side does. They're masters at finding ways to cut corners amist rising construction costs. I'm sure they have units in reserve as well.

Does this equate to cutting corners on quality?

bookermorgan
Nov 1, 2010, 2:45 PM
Should we change the title of this thread now that they are expecting to break ground next year?

heres my idea...
University City | 5 Phase TOD Condominiums | Proposed
??

shogged
Nov 1, 2010, 11:43 PM
just got an email from university city with sales numbers

"THANK YOU FOR MAKING UNIVERSITY CITY A HUGE SUCCESS!

Congratulations to everyone who bought a new home at University City.

In Phase 1 we sold 200 of 216 units on Saturday and on Sunday in Phase 2, we sold 125 of 216 units, so far!

Clearly Calgary is very excited about this Transit Oriented Development and we want to thank you for your confidence in what we are building.

Howard Sokolowski and Joe Starkman
Principals
University City"

thats pretty awesome sales numbers, do you think they would build phase 1 and 2 at the same time with sales like that?

atlas_inc
Nov 2, 2010, 3:12 AM
Yup, that's one way that they can keep construction costs in check. I wonder what Lawrence would do?

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3342/officespacet.jpg

unibrain
Nov 2, 2010, 4:59 AM
Should we change the title of this thread now that they are expecting to break ground next year?

heres my idea...
University City | 5 Phase TOD Condominiums | Proposed
??

I dont know if they will be starting construction so soon.. I dont believe they've applied for a DP yet.