[freeweed]

Victoria is near-desert in the summer. It's comparable to Calgary, which IS near-desert (or at least very comfortably in semi-arid territory).

It surprised the hell out of me too when I realized this. But I have many friends in Vic who keep me updated now.

[Metro-One]

Cool graphs LeftCoaster, I have made and posted similar graphs in the past actually on this thread.

Most of the rain in Victoria and Vancouver during the summer also falls in short bursts, as the charts show Victoria is also sunnier than Montreal and Toronto, so no matter how you cut it Victoria is indeed sunnier and drier than Montreal and Toronto.

Victoria is actually classified sub-mediterranian due to the rain shadow from the Olympic Mountains and the Vancouver Island Mountains (as is the Gulf islands and the San Juan Islands in the states).

Hence the Arbutus trees, the grassy bluffs, the gary Oak trees, prickly pear cactus being found at some beaches and on some dry bluffs, etc...

For example, even this summer, which has been much less than stellar in BC, Victoria has only received 34.4 mm of rain since June 1st, 3 days taking the lions share of that total.

[Nicko999]

The difference during the warm season isn't that big considering Vancouver and Victoria have longer summer days than Toronto and Montreal.
Below are stats of the bright sunshine % during daylight: For more info about BRIGHT sunshine: http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/prods_servs/normals_documentation_e.html#14

January
Victoria: 25.1%
Vancouver: 22.4%
Toronto: 30.5%
Montreal: 35.8%

February
Victoria: 31%
Vancouver: 29.6%
Toronto: 37.3%
Montreal: 42.4%

March
Victoria: 38.6%
Vancouver: 36.5%
Toronto: 42.3%
Montreal: 43.1%

April
Victoria: 46.2%
Vancouver: 44.4%
Toronto: 46.1%
Montreal: 42.8%

May
Victoria: 52%
Vancouver: 48.7%
Toronto: 50.3%
Montreal: 49.8%

June
Victoria: 52.1%
Vancouver: 47.3%
Toronto: 55.5%
Montreal: 52.4%

July
Victoria: 66%
Vancouver: 60.2%
Toronto: 59.1%
Montreal: 57.9%

August
Victoria: 65.3%
Vancouver: 60%
Toronto: 55.7%
Montreal: 55%

September
Victoria: 57.5%
Vancouver: 52.5%
Toronto: 50%
Montreal: 46.3%

October
Victoria: 41.1%
Vancouver: 37.2%
Toronto: 43.3%
Montreal: 41.1%

November
Victoria: 27.1%
Vancouver: 23.4%
Toronto: 28.7%
Montreal: 30%

December
Victoria: 22.5%
Vancouver: 21.8%
Toronto: 26.8%
Montreal: 29.5%


Annual
Victoria: 43.7%
Vancouver: 40.3%
Toronto: 43.8%
Montreal: 43.8%

EDIT: If we go by days with measurable sunshine annually

Victoria: 306.3
Vancouver: 288.5
Toronto: 302.9
Montreal: 303.5

[Nicko999]

Another gorgeous summer day even though it was cloudy this afternoon.

It went up to 26C with a humidex of 30C. It's now been raining for 5 hours which the longest duration rain we've had in a month in a half... and of course it had to happen during the Rogers Cup.:rolleyes:

The good thing is that even with all that rain, the temperature is above 20C right now(humidex of 27C).

BTW-Some models are showing a possible Bermuda high forming late in August. If true, it would be the icing on the cake of this amazing summer. Last year, a huge Bermuda high was responsable for our heat wave.

In the summer season in years when this condition is present, intense heat waves occur in the eastern United States and, spotty drought

The famous Bermuda High, which has been a no-show much of the summer could make a comeback after the 23rd, leading to a warmer, more humid pattern over southeastern Canada and the Northeast U.S. This could also increase the threat for a hurricane strike from South Carolina to Florida.
http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/anderson/story/53541/a-look-back-at-july-and-some-forecast-thoughts-on-the-near-future-1.asp

It's still very long term though.

[feepa]

How much sunnier are the prairie cities compared to the 4 examples above

[someone123]

It's true that Vancouver and Victoria are fairly dry in the summer. Many people incorrectly think that they are normally rainy year-round.

The sunshine hours are interesting. I have heard people complain that Halifax is very cloudy but in reality it is about the same as Toronto or Montreal and sunnier in the winter (36.3% in December vs. 29.5% for Montreal). I definitely find Halifax winters less SAD inducing than Vancouver winters, and it turns out there's almost twice as much winter sunshine in Halifax due to less cloud cover and longer days.

Not all of the weather stations have sunshine stats but, unsurprisingly, Winnipeg gets 51% bright sunshine -- significantly more than the cities listed above.

[Metro-One]

:previous:You fail to note that there is even a vast difference between Vancouver and Victoria. Victoria's summers are beyond fairly dry, for they are actually the driest of any major city in Canada.

Here is a quick annual comparison between the weather station near downtown Victoria and Vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Montreal, Saint John, Sydney and St. John's (for some reason neither of the Halifax stations record sunshine information, so i took 3 stations from different areas along the east coast to generate a more balanced picture)

Annual Precipitation - Driest to wettest

1. Calgary - 412.6
2. Winnipeg - 513.7
3. Victoria - 607.6
4. Toronto - 834
5. Montreal - 978.9
6. Vancouver - 1199
7. Saint John - 1390.3
8. Sydney - 1504.9
9. St. John's - 1571.9


Annual Bright Sunshine Hours, most to least

1. Calgary - 2405.3
2. Winnipeg - 2371.8
3. Victoria - 2193.3
4. Toronto - 2037.6
5. Montreal - 2028.7
6. Saint John - 1950.1
7. Vancouver - 1928
8. Sydney - 1504.9
9. St. John's - 1511.5


Days with Bright Sunshine Recorded - most to least (note, Calgary does not have this stat)

1. Winnipeg - 317.8
2. Victoria - 316.8
3. Montreal - 303.5
4. Toronto - 302.9
5. Vancouver - 288.5
6. Sydney - 286.9
7. Saint John - 284.9
8. St. John's - 270.4


% daylight hours as bright sunshine - most to least

1. Calgary - 52.5
2. Winnipeg - 51.1
3. Victoria - 46.1
4. Montreal / Toronto - 43.8
5. Saint John - 43.2
6. Vancouver - 40.3
7. Sydney - 39
8. St. John's - 32.7


So there you have it, Victoria consistently ranks between the Prairie cities and central Canada when it comes to precipitation and sunshine, in fact it is slightly closer to the Prairie cities than it is Toronto and Montreal.

So it is more than just Victoria's summer. Victoria is indeed not in the same ball park as the east coast in these respects.

Vancouver on the other hand is indeed most similar to Saint John in regards to precipitation and sunshine.

St. John's is indeed by far the gloomiest and wettest station year round.

So again, this is why Victoria is indeed classified as a different biogeoclimate zone than Vancouver.

Vancouver is classified as mild Maritime (with a prominent dry season) while Victoria is classified as sub Mediterranean, due to its average temps remaining above freezing year round, its year round low precipitation, and its very distinct dry season. Hence the presence of many plant and animal species that are not found in Vancouver, but are found throughout California and Oregon.

[someone123]

Shearwater is the Halifax-area station with sunshine data.

[Nicko999]

Montreal broke a precipation record with 37.2 mm yesterday at Trudeau.

Even more was recorded at the Sainte-Anne-de-Bellevue station (50.8 mm)at the western tip of the island.

We had another round of thunderstorms this afternoon.;)

[Nicko999]

It went up to 26C with a humidex of 32C and a mix of sun and cloud today.;) We had some very heavy rain with this afternoon's t-storms.:P


The state of Oklahoma now holds the record of warmest month ever recorded in the US.

It was the fourth warmest July on record for the nation, and the fourth warmest month overall with an average temperature of 77°F. Extreme heat continued to bake the South, and Oklahoma and Texas both had their warmest months on record. Oklahoma's statewide average temperature was a remarkable 88.9°F in July, which is the warmest monthly statewide average for any state in any month.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1876

[Blitz]

July 2011 in Windsor was officially the warmest month ever recorded anywhere in Canada, ever!

The average high temperature was 31C and the average low was 20.6C.

[craneSpotter]

So there you have it, Victoria consistently ranks between the Prairie cities and central Canada when it comes to precipitation and sunshine, in fact it is slightly closer to the Prairie cities than it is Toronto and Montreal.

So it is more than just Victoria's summer. Victoria is indeed not in the same ball park as the east coast in these respects.

Vancouver on the other hand is indeed most similar to Saint John in regards to precipitation and sunshine.

St. John's is indeed by far the gloomiest and wettest station year round.

So again, this is why Victoria is indeed classified as a different biogeoclimate zone than Vancouver.

Vancouver is classified as mild Maritime (with a prominent dry season) while Victoria is classified as sub Mediterranean, due to its average temps remaining above freezing year round, its year round low precipitation, and its very distinct dry season. Hence the presence of many plant and animal species that are not found in Vancouver, but are found throughout California and Oregon.



Shhhhh. ;)

[Calgarian]

Holy thunderstorm Batman!

[Metro-One]

July 2011 in Windsor was officially the warmest month ever recorded anywhere in Canada, ever!

The average high temperature was 31C and the average low was 20.6C.

Bzzzz, wrong, the mean temp was 25.8

The warmest month on record in Canada is still in BC, Spences Bridge, July 1906.

Average high = 35.5, Average Low = 17.6 for a mean temp of 26.6.

And that is doing just a quick search.

That being said, 25.8 is an amazingly hot month, and is definitely the hottest ever recorded in Eastern Canada.

Would love to see a summer where Osoyoos of Kamloops records its hottest month ever next year, hehe.

[Nicko999]

It only went up to 22C with a mostly cloudy sky... we had some nice sunny breaks. Windy as well with wind gusts up to 40 km/h.:(

Even though we're having one of the warmest summer on record here in Montreal, we haven't see a lot of "hot" days.

Years with most 30C+ days in Montreal:

1. 33 - 1955
2. 29 - 1949
3. 26 - 1959
4. 23 - 1944
5. 23 - 2001
6. 23 - 2005
7. 22 - 1999
8. 20 - 1947
9. 20 - 1953
10. 20 -1970

So far in 2011 we only have had 13...:P

[Blitz]

David Phillips was all in the news talking about the warmest month record just being broken. He claimed he checked all of the data...maybe he missed this BC place?!

[Metro-One]

:previous:I wouldn't be surprised, he has missed data before in the past. Spences Bridge is not famous by any stretch of the imagination.

[Nicko999]

26C with a humidex of 29C and a mix of sun and clouds today.:) The gorgeous weather is back.:cool:

The 0.4C this morning in Dawson, NWT reminded us that the freeze list might start soon even though we're still weeks away from dropping below 10C in Southern Ontario/Southern Quebec.

Still haven't dropped below 10C since July 1st

Montreal: 12.5C
Ottawa: 12.5C
Hamilton: 10.1C
Toronto: 11.7C
Windsor: 15.1C


The ice keeps melting at a record pace up north.
Arctic sea ice extent on August 11, 2011, was the 2nd lowest on record for the date. The Northeast Passage and Northwest Passage (southern route) were both ice-free
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1879

[Nicko999]

Nice and warm today again...

28C with a humidex of 33C and sunny!:cool:

[Nicko999]

27C with a humidex of 33C and mainly cloudy but with some nice sunny breaks today.:)

Combine that with a low of 19C this morning and t-storms this evening and you get another perfect summer day...:tup:

[Blitz]

:previous:I wouldn't be surprised, he has missed data before in the past. Spences Bridge is not famous by any stretch of the imagination.

Or he could've been talking about the modern record. Sometimes they don't put much stock in data from over 100 years ago.

[flar]

I thought this comment in the Windsor Star was interesting. Weather is so subjective; Ottawa's summer weather stats aren't that different from Windsor's, but you can feel a real difference. I think it's mostly that the heat in the Windsor area is more unrelenting. The cool northern air moves into Ottawa occasionally and Ottawa cools off more at night. The humidity is higher and breaks are rarer in SW Ontario, and the summer lasts a bit longer down there too. Winters are very different, and that is reflected in the stats.



Having just moved here from Ottawa last October, this was my first summer in Windsor. I must say it was quite the introduction, I don't think I've sweat so much in my life! I'm certainly looking forward to some cooler temperatures.

And for those complaining about winter, I have to laugh. This is as far south as you can get in Canada, the winters here are the easiest of anywhere in the country. If you think last winter was bad, try living anywhere else.

Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/July+Windsor+hottest+month+Canadian+history/5237442/story.html#ixzz1V7CJjSlg

[Acajack]

the winters here (in Windsor) are the easiest of anywhere in the country.
Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/July+Windsor+hottest+month+Canadian+history/5237442/story.html#ixzz1V7CJjSlg

Guess he isn't aware that British Columbia joined Canada in 1871 approximately...

[PoscStudent]

St. John's has finally heated up and the sun is now shining! Currently 22 with a humidex of 27!!

[Metro-One]

Guess he isn't aware that British Columbia joined Canada in 1871 approximately...

Don't worry, BC is use to it, Canada either stops at the Manitoba border or the Rocky mountains to many Ontario residents, hehe.

And fort he record, if they didn't put much stock in old weather data then we would not still be using records from the 30's and 40's as benchmarks for the hottest temperatures ever recorded in Canada ;) Along with countless other weather trivia facts posted daily on the weather website, many dating back to the 1800's.

Also, David Philips is extremely Eastern Canadian orientated. As i said, seeing him on the weather network over the years i have noticed several other mistaken quotes he has made.

[someone123]

Guess he isn't aware that British Columbia joined Canada in 1871 approximately...

You don't need to go to BC to find winters warmer and less snowy than Windsor:

Windsor, ON - January high -1, average 127 cm snow
http://climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climate_normals/results_e.html?stnID=4716&lang=e&dCode=1&StationName=WINDSOR&SearchType=Contains&province=ALL&provBut=&month1=0&month2=12

Charlesville, NS - January high +2, average 93 cm snow
http://climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climate_normals/results_e.html?stnID=6318&prov=&lang=e&dCode=5&dispBack=1&StationName=charlesville&SearchType=Contains&province=ALL&provBut=&month1=0&month2=12

(If we include islands, Sable Island is +3 in January)

Actually even parts of Newfoundland are warmer than Windsor in the winter (but NF gets way more snow):

http://climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/climate_normals/results_e.html?stnID=6723&lang=e&dCode=0&StationName=LAWRENCE&SearchType=Contains&province=ALL&provBut=&month1=0&month2=12

I am not sure why the myth of BRUTAL ATLANTIC WINTERS persists (of course in this case the guy was probably just ignorant and may have thought that being farther south guarantees a warmer climate, which is not true at all). Occasionally when people have asked me where I'm from they will respond as though I said Anchorage or something, asking how I cope with the cold, snowy winters in Halifax. This has even happened in Montreal and Ottawa.

[Calgarian]

Just got caught in a crazy downpour, I was completely drenched in about 10 minutes and that's with an umbrella!

This summer has to be some kind of record for the amount and duration of these thunderstorm downpours.

[Calgarian]

Why do people always assume that a place is warmer because it's further south? Coastal areas are usually the warmest in the winter due to the stabilizing effect of the ocean. That's why there are small palm trees in Vancouver and Victoria.

[Metro-One]

:previous:You don't even have to go to the coast in BC to find areas warmer and drier than Windsor in the winter. Many of the southern interior valleys, especially the Okanagan, are much milder.

For example, the coldest two months of the year in Peachland (south of Kelowna) are December and January, both with a high of +1 and a low of -3.

Anyways, even though BC has yet to receive a major heat wave this summer (and I doubt we will get one now) Kamloops has still been able to string together an 11 day stretch with temperatures reaching above 30, and Osoyoos was able to string together 6 days with temperatures rising above 32. Nothing amazing for the Okanagan, but it still made for some fantastic swimming and hiking weather when i was there this last weekend.

[Calgarian]

The weather was great when I was in the Okanagan 2 weeks ago at least during the day, temperature in the 30's during the day, but down to the low teens at night!

[Metro-One]

:previous:You should have been there last week, i was in Osoyoos having a patio late night drink and it was still 27 at midnight :tup:

It depends where you are in the Okanagan as well, areas such as Osoyoos, Oliver, Naramata, Summerland and Kelowna (downtown) have warm nights during the summer, in fact Peachland has among the warmest nights in the country outside of Southern Ontario and Montreal.

But then on the flip side, Vernon, Winfield and the northern end of Kelowna have cool nights during the summer, the Kelowna airport recording the coldest nights in the Okanagan by far. For example, last week i was driving from down town Kelowna to Winfield around 1 in the morning, my car temp went from 26 in downtown Kelowna, to 21 near highway 33, to 16 near the Kelowna airport!

Penticton is in between, sometimes they get the warm nights, sometimes the cool nights.

daytime highs are much more even across the Okanagan, usually following the trend of the southern tip being about 3 to 4 degrees warmer than the northern tip. And of course the lake shore being a couple degrees cooler as well.

[Calgarian]

Yeah, that's usual, it's always warmer in downtown or the other lower areas of the city. When I was there it was about 11 at 10PM in the Rutland area of Kelowna, that's Calgary weather, not Okanagan.

We were camping in Lac le Jeune by Kamloops and the temperature difference was about 10 degrees between Kamloops and the campground, but we were much higher up.

[Metro-One]

:previous:haha, Lac le Jeune is about 1000 meters higher than Kamloops, that is a huge difference in elevation (hence being so much cooler). It is in the cool douglas fir zone, bordering on the montane lodge pole pine / spruce zone. As one dips lower from there you go through the warm douglas fir zone, to the hot Ponderosa Pine zone, and then to the hot bunchgrass zone.

[Joshy]

Beautiful sunny day in Winnipeg. 30C with a humidex of 36C.

[Nicko999]

22 mm from the thunderstorms yesterday.

We have now recorded 102 mm since August 1. We made up for the thunderstorms we didn't get in July.:D Everything has greened up at an amazing pace.

So far this month:

Montreal: 102 mm
Toronto: 48.2 mm
Ottawa: 29.6 mm
Windsor: 58 mm
Burlington, Vermont: 30.5 mm
Fort Lauderdale, Florida: 90 mm
Miami, Florida: 127.2 mm(too bad, we'll need more thunderstorms):D

[freeweed]

Beautiful sunny day in Winnipeg. 30C with a humidex of 36C.

For the record, I sweated my ass off arriving here today. Holy crap how do you people deal with this. :P My car registered 32 before I stopped looking, and it's humid as all hell. Fortunately rain is coming in a few hours.

I think we had a low in the 20s last night where I was camping. Don't even need a tent or sleeping bag. Just lay on the rocks and enjoy.

[Nicko999]

For the record, I sweated my ass off arriving here today. Holy crap how do you people deal with this. :P My car registered 32 before I stopped looking, and it's humid as all hell. Fortunately rain is coming in a few hours.

I think we had a low in the 20s last night where I was camping. Don't even need a tent or sleeping bag. Just lay on the rocks and enjoy.

Good...we're making progress.:P

And the low was probably in the mid teens since downtown Winnipeg went down to 18C.

[Nicko999]

Heaviest cloud cover in almost 2 months kept the temperature below normal.

Only went up to 23C with a humidex of 28C after a low of 20C this morning. Turned off the A/C today.:)

[freeweed]

Good...we're making progress.:P

I've always said 20 degrees is a wonderful temperature to sleep in. It's pretty much where everyone should set their A/C to. :P

And the low was probably in the mid teens since downtown Winnipeg went down to 18C.

Nah, this was a few hundred km away in the forest. There's no nearby weather station to check but it definitely was warmer than Winnipeg for the day. Unfortunately I finally found some mosquitoes - people are not kidding, Winnipeg has NONE this year. It's a bit scary.

[Calgarian]

Winnipeg has NONE this year. It's a bit scary.

That's because they are all in Calgary, I got eaten alive doing the Energizer Night Race on Saturday.

The temperature is getting into the single digits overnight here, looks like frost isn't too far away, followed closely by winter. Calgary needs longer summers.

[drew]

Last night was gorgeous to be outside. Warm, breezy and just slightly muggy. And zero mosquitoes.

[suburbanite]

Perfect day for golf in the GTA right now. Can't wait to play in a few hours.

[Blitz]

You don't need to go to BC to find winters warmer and less snowy than Windsor

Lots of people don't realize that on average Windsor even gets more snow than Winnipeg.


Regarding the brutal Atlantic winters, I think it's because we often hear stories in the winter about New Brunswick and Nova Scotia getting pummelled with nor'easters that dump up to 40 cm of snow. Whereas in southern Ontario, it's much more common to see quick moving (but more frequent) storms of 10-15cm...not to mention all the days where the lake effect results in on and off flurries that can add a few cm each day to the average snowfall total. Windsor's lake effect comes from Lake Michigan but from Chatham eastward it's mostly courtesy of Lake Huron.

[someone123]

Regarding the brutal Atlantic winters, I think it's because we often hear stories in the winter about New Brunswick and Nova Scotia getting pummelled with nor'easters that dump up to 40 cm of snow. Whereas in southern Ontario, it's much more common to see quick moving (but more frequent) storms of 10-15cm...not to mention all the days where the lake effect results in on and off flurries that can add a few cm each day to the average snowfall total. Windsor's lake effect comes from Lake Michigan but from Chatham eastward it's mostly courtesy of Lake Huron.

It is interesting to note that parts of the Atlantic region tend to get more extreme single events and these translate well into news stories. They're still rare though. According to EC Halifax only gets a 25 cm snow storm 0.46 times per year, so on average once every 2 years. The mildest parts of NS are more like one 25 cm storm every 5 years. This is not what I would have expected and is far lower than what most people think.

Freak events like White Juan probably play also a role. Halifax got around 100 cm of snow in two days. However, the same things has happened in Victoria.

Another issue seems to be that the Atlantic region is treated as a "place" by the national media, even though it has a big range of climates. Often the big snow storm in NB is just rain in NS, and the snow storm in Newfoundland sometimes never even touches the Maritimes.

[drew]

Lots of people don't realize that on average Windsor even gets more snow than Winnipeg.


Winnipeg doesn't get a lot of snow in comparison to most places. It just seems like a lot because it doesn't melt from December to March.

[Nicko999]

Environment Canada has confirmed, through photo and video evidence,
Ontario's fourth tornado of the season. Early indications
Are that a tornado with a long track - roughly 80 km - from west
Of Kenora northeastward to between Lac Seul and Sioux Lookout and
possibly beyond occured on Tuesday August 16th between about 4:15 PM
and 5:45 PM EDT.


http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/warnings/SWS_bulletins_e.html?prov=on

[Nicko999]

26C with a humidex of 31C and sunny today!:cool:

We had a very isolated thunderstorm this afternoon.
http://bit.ly/qVpdRB

http://bit.ly/pE5nP4
http://www.meteomedia.com/your_weather/details/779/4755809/5/upload/0/

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2269/scr1313551889.png
http://www.meteomedia.com/your_weather/details/779/4756033/2/upload/0/

[freeweed]

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/warnings/SWS_bulletins_e.html?prov=on

WOW. I was just in the area and am returning in 2 days. Sounds like Dryden also saw at least some funnel clouds. The entire area is quite possibly pummeled by wind. Should make for some interesting blowdowns for my bushwhacking. :hell:

Thanks for the head's up Nicko. I'm leading a crew into the bush, this will surely cheer them up on the drive out. :haha:

[SteelTown]

Hendrickson, AB dipped to -2.8°C this morning (coldest in Canada).

[Blitz]

It is interesting to note that parts of the Atlantic region tend to get more extreme single events and these translate well into news stories. They're still rare though. According to EC Halifax only gets a 25 cm snow storm 0.46 times per year, so on average once every 2 years. The mildest parts of NS are more like one 25 cm storm every 5 years. This is not what I would have expected and is far lower than what most people think.

There's usually at least 2 or 3 big nor'easters per winter but they often bring rain to coastal Nova Scotia while New Brunswick takes the brunt of the heavy snow therefore still making the news. People don't realize that the weather can be very different between those two provinces though.


I thought this comment in the Windsor Star was interesting. Weather is so subjective; Ottawa's summer weather stats aren't that different from Windsor's, but you can feel a real difference. I think it's mostly that the heat in the Windsor area is more unrelenting. The cool northern air moves into Ottawa occasionally and Ottawa cools off more at night. The humidity is higher and breaks are rarer in SW Ontario, and the summer lasts a bit longer down there too. Winters are very different, and that is reflected in the stats.

Another difference is that you can't even turn the a/c off at night because the nighttime temperature stays so mild in Windsor compared to everywhere else in southern Ontario. The water temperature in Lake St. Clair in summer is over 25C and combine that with the Detroit heat island and temperatures fall very slowly during the evening and night (barely even falling below 20C this summer).

[feepa]

Hendrickson, AB dipped to -2.8°C this morning (coldest in Canada).

Do you have any idea where this place is? It's right next to the mountains, in the foothills between hinton and grande cache.

It does get cold near the mountains at night. No story here. (Look at the average lows of Calgary or Banff most nights)

[Airboy]

Do you have any idea where this place is? It's right next to the mountains, in the foothills between hinton and grande cache.

It does get cold near the mountains at night. No story here. (Look at the average lows of Calgary or Banff most nights)

Sitting on my deck last night I felt a definite chill in the air. But long range says back to hot temps by early next week.

[PoscStudent]

Was warm and humid today, with the sun and rain coming and going constantly, but the temperature has dropped quickly. We hit a high of 23 with a humidex of 30 but the temperature is now 15.

[Nicko999]

Coldest morning in Southern Quebec in 2 months...

We dropped to 13C this morning... outside the island, temperatures dropped to 10-12C while downtown was a mild 17C.


Warm and humid air is slowly returning in Eastern Canada... Cobourg, Lagoon City and Point Petre with a dewpoint of 21C today and a couple of places with a humidex of 34C.

EDIT: 10.8 mm in about 5-10 min yesterday. That makes our total for the month 112.8 mm.

[Metro-One]

:previous: The total for Victoria this month so far is 0.0

Vancouver has a T.

[feepa]

Sitting on my deck last night I felt a definite chill in the air. But long range says back to hot temps by early next week.

The temperature sure is cool tonight. Low says 8, but I bet it gets cooler than that in Edmonton.

It's not hard to believe that it may have got that cool in (-2.8 C) in the deep in the valley of a river in the foothills in NW AB this time of year either...

[Nicko999]

We recorded our lowest temperature of the summer... 11.5C this morning.

It did however warm up nicely and we hit 25C with a humidex of 28C under bright sunshine.:cool:

Dewpoint is currently 22C in Lagoon City, the highest in Canada.

[Richlord11]

Sunny and fine hot :)

[Dwils01]

It has now started to rain and there is a thunderstorm in Hamilton but still is 27C outside.

[Nicko999]

EC is showing a low of 11.1C in Montreal yesterday.

The lowest hourly temperature was 13.1C at 5AM. It was already 14.7C by 6AM.

Very unusual to have a 2C drop in about 30 minutes without any wind on the island(and yes I am aware of radiative cooling).

[CanadianCentaur]

Do you have any idea where this place is? It's right next to the mountains, in the foothills between hinton and grande cache.

It does get cold near the mountains at night. No story here. (Look at the average lows of Calgary or Banff most nights)

Odd, I had never, ever heard of that place - and I've gone through Grande Cache many times on the way from GP to Vancouver and back (it's faster going by Hwy 40 than having to go through Dawson Creek and Prince George. And more scenic, too!).

[Nicko999]

28C with a humidex of 35C and sunny with a thunderstorm this afternoon!:) Today was a PERFECT summer day.:cool:

All those afternoon t-storms are great for gardens/grass.

Notice how green the grass is...
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8928/sam0982.jpg

Carrots in the back
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http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2384/sam0984a.jpg

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Lagoon City and Trenton recorded a dewpoint of 22C (several weather stations in Southern Ontario/Southern Quebec had a dewpoint at 20C or above) this afternoon while Toronto Downtown had a humidex of 37C.

[1ajs]

beutifull front moved in gave us a nice pile of rain witch is needed and i got some lightning shots from a rooftop
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[Nicko999]

28C with a humidex of 31C and sunny! Had to put the A/C on once again.:)

The Fredericton Aquatic Centre weather station recorded a dewpoint of 21C this afternoon and a humidex of 37C.

Any trees starting to change in Alberta? Banff froze this morning.

[Nicko999]

29C with a humidex of 33C and sunny! It did cloud up late in the afternoon and we had an afternoon shower.

Harrow, Ontario had a dewpoint of 23C today and a humidex of 37C.

Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and PEI all had weather stations that recorded dewpoints of 20C or above.

[Xelebes]

We might have our first day above 30°C tomorrow. Let's hope so!

[Joshy]

Okay day in Winnipeg today, sunny and 25C for the high.

But over the next four days, blue skies and highs between 30C and 35C :)

[DLLB]

It's is sunny and going to 30C. It is supposed to be nice all week as well.

[Calgarian]

Going to be a gorgeous day today, might get some beers and go floating down the Elbow...

[SteelTown]

Goderich got hit hard by a Tornado this afternoon.....

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[Nicko999]

:previous:

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[Xelebes]

Failed to reach 30°C today. 29.5°C for the high. Oh well, rounded to the nearest digit we get 30, but I don't know if that counts.

The damage in Goderich looks pretty bad. F3 or something, it looks like.

[flar]

Tornado looks pretty bad. I've camped near Goderich many times, been through some wicked storms there.

[Nicko999]

Raining and thundering today... but thanks to a high dewpoint we still reached 22C with a humidex of 28C so it didn't feel chilly (the light wind also helped).

Moncton recorded a dewpoint of 22C today and a humidex of 36C. Osoyoos hit 35.1C this afternoon.;)

[Xelebes]

Failed to reach 30°C today. 29.5°C for the high. Oh well, rounded to the nearest digit we get 30, but I don't know if that counts.


I lied. The official high yesterday was 30.2°C. Our first 30°C day!

[Calgarian]

I lied. The official high yesterday was 30.2°C. Our first 30°C day!

Sadly Calgary only hit 29.7, just short. I think that's the warmest we have hit so far.

[Nicko999]

We recorded 39.8mm yesterday.

Our monthly total is now 154.6 mm

And we're not out of the woods yet... Hurricane Irene is likely to bring more rain.

http://bit.ly/mVaIby
http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/54059/east-coast-flood-danger-after.asp

[Nicko999]

Pretty strong tornado...

Environment Canada has confirmed that the tornado that ripped through Goderich, Ont., on Sunday afternoon — causing massive damage and killing a man, as well as injuring dozens — was an F3.

It killed Norman Laberge, 61, of Lucknow, Ont., who was working in a salt mine, and injured at least 37 people. Thunderstorm warnings were in place and a tornado warning was issued for 3:48 p.m. ET — just 12 minutes before it struck, CBC meteorologist Johanna Wagstaffe said
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/08/22/goderich-tornado.html

[rrskylar]

34 today with humidex at 40, high 35 tomorrow!

[Nicko999]

Today was probably one of the warmest late-August day you will ever see in Canada...

148 stations recorded a temperature of 30C or higher.
119 stations recorded a temperature of 31C or higher.
90 stations recorded a temperature of 32C or higher.
60 stations recorded a temperature of 33C or higher.
20 stations recorded a temperature of 34C or higher.
3 stations recorded a temperature of 35C or higher.

The Canadian hotspot today was Beiseker, Alberta at 35.4C.

[freeweed]

Any trees starting to change in Alberta? Banff froze this morning.

Banff is at 1400m elevation, not surprising that it hits freezing during summer. It often snows at that elevation year round.

Not sure about AB, but the trees in NW Ontario and parts of MB are changing as of this past weekend. It must be the extreme dryness combined with the insane temperatures this summer. I've never seen so much gold this early in the summer. The water temps are unbelievable, it's almost like swimming in the Gulf.

And it's gonna be +302 in Winnipeg tomorrow, or something. It's disgustingly hot here.

[Joshy]

"disgustingly hot"

I get a real kick out of that :haha:

Of course that is your opinion, of which I do not share. I like it "disgustingly hot" as you put it, but I bet you can't wait to get back to the "coolness" of Calgary where is snows in July at the Stampede, but lets not get into that debate again ;)

[Joshy]

Oh, and it's about 2am and still 25C with a humidex of 33C in Winnipeg.

Tomorrow's high is 36C, with a humidex in the low 40C range.

Bring it.

[Nicko999]

Banff is at 1400m elevation, not surprising that it hits freezing during summer. It often snows at that elevation year round.

Not sure about AB, but the trees in NW Ontario and parts of MB are changing as of this past weekend. It must be the extreme dryness combined with the insane temperatures this summer. I've never seen so much gold this early in the summer. The water temps are unbelievable, it's almost like swimming in the Gulf.


Are you kidding me??? Water temperatures in Manitoba are around 20-21C.

You should try the Great Lakes currently at 23-24C.

Those numbers come from EC btw.

Or you should jump in my friend's pool who heated up to 30C in July.:haha: Now that's a perfect swimming temperatures.:tup:

Also the Gulf water temperatures are about 31C-32C right now...:P That's why it's such a popular destination for tourists.

[Nicko999]

It only warmed to 22C this afternoon under a mix of sun and clouds. I think it's only the second time this summer we don't have a humidex.

Also kind of windy but it didn't feel as cold thanks to the sun.

Current dewpoint in Winnipeg is 22C... Not bad for late August.:)

Portage Southport Airport also recorded a humidex of 40C.

[Xelebes]

Are you kidding me??? Water temperatures in Manitoba are around 20-21C.

You should try the Great Lakes currently at 23-24C.

Those numbers come from EC btw.

Or you should jump in my friend's pool who heated up to 30C in July.:haha: Now that's a perfect swimming temperatures.:tup:

Also the Gulf water temperatures are about 31C-32C right now...:P That's why it's such a popular destination for tourists.

We can take it you never swam in a shield lake or any other lake above the 50th?

[compman3]

Finally some real summer weather the last day or so. Would have been nice to hit 30 plus, but in Calgary, I will take this over the norm. Also, as of right now, its 20 degrees out at 4:30am. I Love it. Better late then never to have some nice somewhat hot weather for once. I will enjoy it while I can.

[rrskylar]

Currently 34 in western Canada's warmest summer city. Humidex at 38.

[rrskylar]

Warmest day so far this year, Winnipeg now at 37!

[Metro-One]

:previous:That is a nice hot day in my books ;)

While BC still has not received any of our usual annual extreme heat waves, August has been considerably better than July and June this year.

Victoria received its first true rainfall yesterday since July 21st (only recording a trace on July 31st, making that a good dry stretch of 31 days (21 days in a row recording no form of precipitation at all)).

Although it rained just over 11mm yesterday, the 7 day forecast shows mainly sunny conditions for the provincial capital!

Also Osoyoos today is recording their 16th day above 30 this month (with an average high of 31.3 so far). Finally things have been much more normal this month. But the news never seems to mention such conditions in the BC interior, i am guessing just because it is essentially normal.

[entheosfog]

"disgustingly hot"

I get a real kick out of that :haha:

Of course that is your opinion, of which I do not share. I like it "disgustingly hot" as you put it, but I bet you can't wait to get back to the "coolness" of Calgary where is snows in July at the Stampede, but lets not get into that debate again ;)

Then why mention it if you don't want to get into that debate? Obviously you do ;)

[Nicko999]

Winnipeg was the warmspot of the country with a temperature of 37.2C

In Winnipeg, the mercury
Rose to 37.2c eclipsing the previous high for August 23rd of 36.7c
back in 1952. The 37.2c reading was also Winnipeg's hottest
temperature in 16 years since a temperature of 37.8c was recorded on
June 17 1995.


The dewpoint was 11C so it was a dry heat.

This means the highest temperature in Canada this year is likely to be at the Toronto City station. A high of 38.2C along with a dewpoint of 26.5C on July 21.

[freeweed]

Are you kidding me??? Water temperatures in Manitoba are around 20-21C.

I'm not kidding, and you might want to do a little research about an area before acting shocked and appalled, and making trivially disprovable statements.

I was swimming in lakes in NW Ontario, so Manitoba isn't a factor. More importantly, there are tens of thousands of lakes around here. I find it hard to believe that a) every single lake is within a degree of the same temperature, and b) anyone could conceivably think that. Less sarcastically, lake temperatures vary tremendously here. Some lakes are spring fed and generally cold. Some lakes are huge (Lake Winnipeg) and don't warm up all that much by comparison. And thousands of smaller, shallower lakes heat up tremendously. EC has not measured water temperature in every single lake in the area, it's damn near impossible. So no matter what they say, citing them in a case like this makes you look a bit too eager to try to be "right".

I measured in excess of 27 degrees at the surface layers of the unnamed and officially unmeasured lake I was swimming in. A fair bit closer to Gulf temps than Lake Winnipeg (and also, the word "like" really needs to enter your vocabulary - it does not mean a claim of "exactly the same", it means "kinda similar"). It'll be curious to see how close of a "hottest summer ever" we see for this part of the country. I remember some warm lake temps over the years, but from what I hear this has been a crazy hot and dry summer out here. With practically no rain, the water just keeps heating up all summer long. The lakes are nearly 2 feet lower than normal on average. Except Lake Manitoba, which is still flooded out from what I hear (almost as if different lakes experience different conditions).

Incidentally, Winnipeg's official temp today may have been 37, but I saw at least 38 in my car and on billboards. Fortunately the humidity was non-existent because it truly did feel like the hottest day in 20 years here. Even the people I know who generally love the heat were complaining. Of course, once it hits 30 or so it's just gross to me, so I got to laugh at them a little. It just felt like a typical hot Winnipeg day to me. :haha:

[freeweed]

Then why mention it if you don't want to get into that debate? Obviously you do ;)

It's not a debate when it's completely fabricated. It's a little like arguing with a creationist or chemtrail believer. They think that repetition instead of fact makes reality. :koko:

Everyone I know was out enjoying Stampede this year, blizzard and all. Hardly anyone was out doing anything remotely physical in Winnipeg today, even the diehards. The malls and theatres (anywhere air conditioned) were jam packed, however. But the streets were almost deserted until after the sun set. But maybe an entire city is just "wrong". :shrug:

[Nicko999]

I measured in excess of 27 degrees at the surface layers of the unnamed and officially unmeasured lake I was swimming in. A fair bit closer to Gulf temps than Lake Winnipeg (and also, the word "like" really needs to enter your vocabulary - it does not mean a claim of "exactly the same", it means "kinda similar"). It'll be curious to see how close of a "hottest summer ever" we see for this part of the country. I remember some warm lake temps over the years, but from what I hear this has been a crazy hot and dry summer out here. With practically no rain, the water just keeps heating up all summer long. The lakes are nearly 2 feet lower than normal on average. Except Lake Manitoba, which is still flooded out from what I hear (almost as if different lakes experience different conditions).

Incidentally, Winnipeg's official temp today may have been 37, but I saw at least 38 in my car and on billboards. Fortunately the humidity was non-existent because it truly did feel like the hottest day in 20 years here. Even the people I know who generally love the heat were complaining. Of course, once it hits 30 or so it's just gross to me, so I got to laugh at them a little. It just felt like a typical hot Winnipeg day to me. :haha:

Fair enough... but a 27C water temperature is heaven for me.:) The warmest I've ever swimmed in was 31-32C in Florida and that was PERFECT!:cool:

[Nicko999]

It only went up to 22C. It was sunny until late in the afternoon when it clouded up. Still no humidex.:(

Today was our 60th straight 20C+ day.:tup:

Island Lake, Manitoba recorded a dewpoint of 23C today along with a humidex of 39C.

[Metro-One]

So apparently Environment Canada is having some weird computer glitch with many of its BC weather stations over the last several weeks.

Often, even if the day is completely clear, it will record the days precipitation as 0.2 or 0.5.

For example look at the Osoyoos, Lytton or Clinton stations for this month. All of the 0.5 and 0.2s should be 0s.

Not sure if this is happening elsewhere in the country.

[Joshy]

37.2 yesterday in Winnipeg. I was out jogging and then sun tanning.

I love summer in Summerpeg!

[Nicko999]

Oh boy...

Canadian emergency and weather officials are also warning that Irene could affect Nova Scotia in particular if it stays on its current path.

The Canadian Hurricane Centre in Dartmouth, N.S., forecasts that Irene may impact the mid-Atlantic as early as Sunday afternoon but as late as Tuesday. Anywhere between Montreal and Newfoundland and Labrador could feel the stormy effects that are likely to be unusually heavy rain.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/08/24/hurricane-irene-rain.html


If the core of Irene stays offshore, the mid-Atlantic and New England may escape with a few hundred million dollars in damage from flooding due to heavy rains and storm surge. If Irene hits Long Island or Southeast Massachusetts, the storm has the potential to be a $10 billion disaster. Irene is one of those rare storms that has the potential to make landfall in New England as a Category 2 or stronger hurricane. It is difficult for a major Category 3 or stronger hurricane crossing north of North Carolina to maintain that intensity, because wind shear rapidly increases and ocean temperatures plunge below the 26°C (79°F) level that can support a hurricane.

However, this year sea surface temperatures 1 - 3°F warmer than average extend along the East Coast from North Carolina to New York. Waters of at least 26°C extend all the way to Southern New Jersey, which will make it easier for Irene to maintain its strength much farther to the north than a hurricane usually can. During the month of July, ocean temperature off the mid-Atlantic coast (35°N - 40°N, 75°W - 70°W) averaged 2.6°F (1.45°C) above average, the second highest July ocean temperatures since record keeping began over a century ago (the record was 3.8°F above average, set in 2010.)
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1896

[b31den]

Banff is at 1400m elevation, not surprising that it hits freezing during summer. It often snows at that elevation year round.


I wouldnt say it often snows here year round. Id say from mid-sept to end of may is common. Snow cover/depth is weak here though, I wish we got more. We basically have really long falls and springs.

Havent noticed any leaves changing yet in the bow valley. I went down HWY 40 (2200m+) and there werent any leaves changing up there yet either. I expect to see some in a week or two though. I had a light frost on my car 3 days ago but the last couple nights have been unusually warm, with lows of 21C and 16C. Dislike.