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blackjagger
Nov 26, 2010, 3:10 PM
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__7A769T

New Terminal Ave. office tower, part of the Vail Rail Canada Ottawa Station Development by Canderel. This will house the tunnel connection with the Train Station and future LRT station.

I'm impressed that space was allotted for concessions and a separate entrance was provided for tunnel access. I was hoping for a grander stairwell or ramping hallway from the level 2 basement(tunnel entry) to level 1 basement (transit street entrance). Overall nice height, no surface parking, strong street presence, and somewhat of a TOD.

Cheers,
Josh

kevinbottawa
Nov 26, 2010, 8:00 PM
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__7A769T

New Terminal Ave. office tower, part of the Vail Rail Canada Ottawa Station Development by Canderel. This will house the tunnel connection with the Train Station and future LRT station.

I'm impressed that space was allotted for concessions and a separate entrance was provided for tunnel access. I was hoping for a grander stairwell or ramping hallway from the level 2 basement(tunnel entry) to level 1 basement (transit street entrance). Overall nice height, no surface parking, strong street presence, and somewhat of a TOD.

Cheers,
Josh

That link is for 2116 Montreal Road.

blackjagger
Nov 26, 2010, 9:35 PM
That link is for 2116 Montreal Road.

The site is mislabeled, take a look at the site plan and elevations.

I'll post them later tonight.

Cheers,
Josh

blackjagger
Nov 27, 2010, 3:27 AM
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/4231/elevation1.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7503/siteplan1.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/i/siteplan1.jpg/)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2115/siteplan2.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/i/siteplan2.jpg/)

Cheers,
Josh

reidjr
Nov 27, 2010, 12:26 PM
Its a mixed use building is that right so i wounder if there will be much retail.

Yroc
Nov 27, 2010, 5:46 PM
Is this tunnel under the tracks open now?

kevinbottawa
Nov 27, 2010, 6:47 PM
It looks pretty good. The new pedestrian bridge over the 417, LRT, and these kinds of developments will be good for the area. If Rick Chiarelli can get the Blue Jays to bring a minor league team to the stadium it would add more life too.

Here's an article from April 2010 from CBC about the development of the land surrounding the VIA Rail station:

Ottawa Via Rail lands to be developed

Shops, homes and offices could soon surround Ottawa's passenger train station.

Via Rail has selected Canderel Property Management as a partner to help it develop about 3.4 hectares of its 9.3-hectare property on Tremblay Road, east of downtown Ottawa, said Via Rail spokesman Malcolm Andrew.

"There is, we think, a great deal of potential that is untapped," he said.

Via will retain ownership of the property, but the "field is wide open" to different types of development, which could include stores, offices and housing, Andrew said. The result is expected to provide rental income for Via and also benefit customers, he added.

"There are not a lot of services in and around the station proper as it sits today."

Bus terminal possible

Andrews confirmed Ottawa Mayor Larry O'Brien had also written to Via to suggest moving the city's intercity bus terminal to the train station and that Greyhound had made similar proposals twice over the past decade.

"This is certainly something that the developer will want to have a look at and see whether it might fit into a larger development proposal."

He said it's a coincidence that the letter arrived at a time when Via is exploring development of its lands.

Canderel is currently studying the options and will meet with Via to discuss its findings. The company's previous development projects include the Bell Campus in Montreal and the Residences of College Park in Toronto.

Via has already done significant development around some of its other stations, including Winnipeg and Vancouver. This past January, it issued a request for letters of interest to develop the Ottawa station.

Meanwhile, the owner of the downtown bus terminal said he wants to keep that station where it is on Catherine Street.

"I bought it as an income property," said Stewart Robertson, who is based in Vancouver. "I didn't buy it to go turn it into a shopping centre or anything else."

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/04/08/ottawa-via-canderel.html#ixzz16VdyyLs0

Davis137
Nov 28, 2010, 1:40 PM
Sounds interesting overall...

kwoldtimer
Nov 28, 2010, 3:14 PM
Others may disagree, but I hope they get on with creating a multi-modal transit hub here. It just makes sense to me to have the trains, intercity buses and OC transpo all together, and with easy access to the Queensway.

waterloowarrior
Mar 13, 2011, 10:32 PM
render
http://www.canderel.com/sites/default/files/via_rail_resized-cp.jpg?1298309098


larger render here
http://www.canderel.com/sites/default/files/newsletters/canderel_up-to-date_winter_2011.pdf


425 Terminal Avenue - VIA Rail Station
http://www.canderel.com/news-communication/425-terminal-avenue-rail-station
Ottawa, ON

425 Terminal Avenue is part of the VIA Rail Station lands. Canderel was selected as VIA Rail’s development partner in the development of VIA’s Ottawa Station Lands. A 9 storey 240,000 sq. ft. LEED silver building is currently planned for this particular site. The site can accommodate a building as small as 100,000 sq. ft. or as large as 500,000 sq. ft. Direct connection to the VIA Rail Station and the OC Transpo Station will be provided by a climate controlled tunnel.

The VIA Rail Station is a strategic location with many features. The site has easy access to the Queensway via Riverside Drive or St. Laurent Boulevard. An OC Station is located in front of the site providing strong public transportation connections. The City of Ottawa is in the final planning stages for the construction of a light rail public transit system that will link the VIA Rail station with the downtown core, There are numerous amenities in the surrounding area, including the VIA Rail Station itslef and the “Train Yards” retail centre which is located across the street.

toaster
Mar 14, 2011, 4:03 AM
There are numerous amenities in the surrounding area, including the VIA Rail Station itslef and the “Train Yards” retail centre which is located across the street.
So this means there will finally be access to "Trainyards" retail via "Train" Transit-way Station?

Cre47
Jan 11, 2012, 11:46 PM
Passed by the area, and the building looks to be topped out but still a lot of exterior work to be done, not sure if they were starting the windows since I was about 1 km away from the building, unless I'm mistaken for another building, but it looks to be at about 10 stories and considering it was southwest of Belfast and Tremblay, that looks to be the one in this thread. No images though!

J.OT13
Sep 16, 2012, 2:15 PM
You can see the tunnel in these plans posted by blackjagger a while back.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7503/siteplan1.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/i/siteplan1.jpg/)

update: wrong thread, just wanted to answer trebor204's question about the Terminal office building tunnel to VIA.

rocketphish
Dec 4, 2015, 4:02 AM
Here's an old article that belongs in this thread:


Terminal Avenue in running for second new government office

Peter Kovessy
Published on September 23, 2011

Latest solicitation similar to 2010 bidding – with one exception

A new federal office building, larger than the structure under construction at the Ottawa Train Yards, could be built in the same neighbourhood as early as 2015, if the government moves ahead with plans sketched out in solicitation documents published earlier this month.

Local landlords and developers had less than two weeks to respond to the federal government's latest request for information for office space in the National Capital Region.

Public Works said it needs almost 285,000 square feet of office space – enough, it says, to house between 1,600 and 1,700 civil servants – to replace existing accommodations by 2015. The property must be close to a Transitway station, specifically those between the St. Laurent and Walkley stops. The Confederation O-Train station also qualifies.

The government said the geographic parameters were drafted in response to the needs of a specific department, which it refused to identify.

Any new building must meet LEED-Gold requirements for energy efficiency and environmental design standards.

While the solicitation documents showed the government is open to occupying existing space, local real estate observers say no building currently meets those requirements.

If the government acts on the current request for information and goes out to full tender, the leading development sites are likely to be:

• The VIA Rail property on Terminal Avenue, south of the station and tracks, which would be developed by Canderel;

• The Train Yards property, also in the Terminal Avenue area;

• St. Laurent Shopping Centre, which has redevelopment plans that include office components;

• Billings Bridge Shopping Centre, which has land available for development;

• The government-owned development site at the corner of St. Laurent Boulevard and Tremblay Road.

"(Public Works) is not making it easy on themselves," said one industry observer.

"It's a pretty small area. There are only a handful of potential development sites."

A Public Works spokesperson confirmed that all Crown-owned land - including the 29.6-acre Tremblay Road property purchased from the provincial government for $25 million in 2009 - would be considered.

The solicitation is strikingly similar to a bidding process that ended roughly a year ago, which saw a contract awarded to Ottawa Train Yards Inc. to build an eight-storey, 269,000-square-foot building on Terminal Avenue.

Public Works will lease the office building, which is currently under construction, for two decades, in a deal that could be worth up to $89 million in net rent.

There is one subtle difference in Public Works's requirements this time around, though. While last year's solicitation only required the new building to be within 600 metres of a Transitway station, the most recent documents specify it must be within 600 metres walking distance using sidewalks or pedestrian walkways.

Some in the commercial real estate industry say the Train Yards won the last federal contract on a technicality. Its new development is within 600 metres of the Train Transitway stop, but the VIA rail tracks block pedestrian access.

In an interview last year, Ottawa Train Yards Inc. president Marty Koshman rejected that assessment. He said his property met the criteria based on its proximity to Hurdman Station.

However, some industry observers are still skeptical the new Terminal Avenue building is 600 metres from Hurdman's passenger platforms.

(Canderel's Terminal Avenue plans for the VIA Rail site include an underground pedestrian tunnel to the Transitway.)

Landowners and developers had until Sept. 19 to respond to the request for information. A Public Works spokesperson would not discuss whether a full request for proposals would follow.

http://www.obj.ca/Real-Estate/Construction/2011-09-23/article-2757634/Terminal-Avenue-in-running-for-second-new-government-office/1

rocketphish
Dec 4, 2015, 4:03 AM
And since all the linked imagery in this thread has vanished, here are a couple of them again:

Rendering:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5795/23211869400_2d1122a6c7_o.jpg

Site:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/678/23425163781_30e0ff730f_o.jpg

Arcologist
Dec 4, 2015, 2:15 PM
On its own, it's ugly, but drop it into the mix of buildings that dot the area, and it's a gem!