[Irishguy]

I'm looking at relocating from Dublin, Ireland to Canada in the near future and have been trying to track down a city to move too. I'm interested Eastern Canada and particularly the East Coast but am unsure which city to move too. I'm aware most cities on the East Coast aren't very large but that isn't a big deal for me. Any suggestions on which city to go to and what it offers over the others?

I have a background in computer science and have worked with both the government and private sector in different areas(not just computer related). I will have enough money saved up so that I will not have to worry about getting a job right away so as long as there are jobs there it's not a major issue.

Just need to get out of Ireland ASAP!

[Calgarian]

Halifax is probably your best bet.

[BretttheRiderFan]

Some of the larger cities on the East Coast:

Halifax Regional Municipality

Halifax Regional Municipality is the capital of the province of Nova Scotia, Canada.

The Regional Municipality's population at the time of the latest census, in 2006, was 372,679. The urban area of Halifax had a population of 282,924, while the Census Metropolitan Area had a population of 398,037 as of July 1, 2009. By all of these measures, Halifax is the largest population centre in Atlantic Canada and largest in Canada east of Quebec City.

Halifax is a major economic centre in eastern Canada with a large concentration of government services and private sector companies. Major employers and economic generators include the Department of National Defence, various levels of government, and the Port of Halifax. Agriculture, fishing, mining, forestry and natural gas extraction are major resource industries found in the rural areas of HRM.

St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador

St. John's is the capital and largest city of Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada and is the primary municipality of the St. John's Metropolitan Area. It is located on the eastern tip of the Avalon Peninsula on the island of Newfoundland.

St. John's is the most populous Census Metropolitan Area in the province, it is the second largest CMA in the Atlantic Provinces after Halifax, and 20th largest metropolitan area in Canada with a population of 189,847. The city enjoys a long and vibrant history as the oldest English-founded city in North America.

In 2010, the metropolitan area was the fastest growing in Atlantic Canada and the seventh fastest growing metropolitan area in the entire country. The CMA includes the neighbouring city of Mount Pearl and eleven other towns, the largest of which are Conception Bay South and Paradise.

The last half of the 20th century has seen St. John's, with a long and prosperous history in the fishing industry, transformed into a modern export and service centre, famed for its nightlife and rich musical culture. More recently, its proximity to recently discovered oil fields has led to an economic boom that has spurred population growth, commercial development and has resulted in the St. John's area now accounting for about half of the province's economic output.

Moncton

Moncton is a Canadian city located in Westmorland County, New Brunswick. The city is situated in southeastern New Brunswick, within the Petitcodiac River Valley, and lies at the geographic centre of the Maritime Provinces. The community has gained the nickname "Hub City" because of its central location and also because Moncton has historically been the railway and land transportation hub for the Maritime Provinces.

Moncton, with a metropolitan population of 126,424, is the most populous census metropolitan area in New Brunswick . It is the second largest CMA in the Maritime Provinces, after Halifax, and the third largest in the Atlantic Provinces following Halifax and St. John's.

The Moncton CMA has one of the top ten fastest growth rates amongst metropolitan areas in Canada and is also the fastest growing urban region east of Toronto. The CMA includes the neighbouring city of Dieppe and the town of Riverview, as well as adjacent suburban areas in Westmorland and Albert counties.

Although the area was originally settled in 1733 , Moncton is considered to have been officially founded in 1766 with the arrival of Pennsylvania Dutch immigrants from Philadelphia. Initially an agricultural settlement, Moncton was not incorporated until 1855. It was named after Lt. Col. Robert Monckton, the British officer who had captured nearby Fort Beauséjour a century earlier. A significant wooden shipbuilding industry had developed in the community by the mid 19th century, allowing for incorporation, but the shipbuilding economy collapsed in the 1860s. The town subsequently lost its charter in 1862 but regained it in 1875 when the community's economy rebounded, mainly due to a growing railway industry. In 1871, the Intercolonial Railway of Canada chose Moncton to be its headquarters, and Moncton remained a railroad town for well over a century until the closure of the Canadian National Railway locomotive shops in the late 1980s.

Although the economy of Moncton was traumatized twice—by the collapse of the shipbuilding industry in the 1860s and by the closure of the CNR locomotive shops in the 1980s—the city was able to rebound strongly on both occasions. The city adopted the motto Resurgo after its rebirth as a railway town. At present, the city's economy is stable and diversified, primarily based on its traditional transportation, distribution, retailing and commercial heritage, but also supplemented by strength in the educational, health care, financial, information technology and insurance sectors. The strength of the economy has received national recognition and the local unemployment rate is consistently less than the national average.

Saint John, New Brunswick

Saint John is the second largest city in the province of New Brunswick, and the oldest incorporated city in Canada. The city is situated along the north shore of the Bay of Fundy at the mouth of the St. John River. In 2006 the city proper had a population of 72,043. The population of the Census Metropolitan Area is 126,132, the second largest CMA in New Brunswick behind Moncton.

The "Saint" in Saint John is not normally abbreviated in order to distinguish it from St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, whose name features the abbreviation. The river however, is abbreviated St. John.

Cape Breton Regional Municipality, Nova Scotia

Cape Breton Regional Municipality often shortened to simply CBRM, is a regional municipality in Nova Scotia's Cape Breton County.

According to the 2006 Census of Canada, the population within the Cape Breton Regional Municipality is 102,250. Its population makes it the second largest municipality in the province.

In 1995, the government of Nova Scotia sought to reduce the number of incorporated towns and cities in the province through amalgamation. The municipalities from which the CBRM was created include: the Municipality of the County of Cape Breton, the City of Sydney, the Towns of Glace Bay, Sydney Mines, New Waterford, North Sydney, Dominion and Louisbourg.

[le calmar]

Halifax is the Atlantic "metropolis", has the jobs and is probably a nice place to live in. Moncton should be a good alternative for the jobs and the warm sea (up to 30C in summer) and endless beaches but the city is probably not the most vibrant of the lot. St.John NB looks nice and has this old city feel plus a decent size, not sure about the jobs opportunities though. Same for St.John's NL and Charlottetown, very picturesque and peaceful places, but add the fact that they are pretty distant from the "rest of civilzation". St.John's is probably the mildest city on the East coast in winter.

[BretttheRiderFan]

I'm looking at relocating from Dublin, Ireland to Canada in the near future and have been trying to track down a city to move too. I'm interested Eastern Canada and particularly the East Coast but am unsure which city to move too. I'm aware most cities on the East Coast aren't very large but that isn't a big deal for me. Any suggestions on which city to go to and what it offers over the others?

I have a background in computer science and have worked with both the government and private sector in different areas(not just computer related). I will have enough money saved up so that I will not have to worry about getting a job right away so as long as there are jobs there it's not a major issue.

Just need to get out of Ireland ASAP!

Also notable is that the East Coast has a huge Irish community (Canada has more people of Irish heritage than Ireland does)

The Newfie accent and to a lesser extent the rest of the Maritime accent is the most similar you will find to Irish in Canada

St. John's is probably the most "Irish" style city in the country

George Street is pretty legendary as well

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/George_street_st._john%27s_2.jpg

[-Harlington-]

If you dont want to much of a change id go with either St. John's or somewhere in cape Breton
newfieland is pretty unique in Canada thats for sure
and cape Breton is as well, very Celtic, and the landscape would be quite similar to Ireland.
but going by the criteria you mentioned id go with Halifax its the biggest city in the east and as of now has the most job opportunitys
keep the others in mind though, Atlantic Canada is a very welcoming place and anything you wanna know just ask
:tup:

[big T]

As far as the east coast Halifax would for sure be your best bet.
However since you mentioned "eastern Canada" as a whole, you may want to look at Ottawa which has a strong IT sector (I wouldn't really call it Eastern Canada but I am unsure what your definition was). It's also a larger city so potentially has more opportunities, and is pretty conveniently located relative to the other major population centers in the country.

[vid]

There was a story on CBC news a while back about the recent Irish immigrants in Toronto, I think. They get together occasionally to network. Finding something like that in a city would probably be a good benefit for you, open up a lot of opportunities. It might have been Halifax, but I am pretty sure it was Toronto, since CBC doesn't stray too far from the mothership.

[MonctonRad]

Since you're from Ireland, I would suggest that you consider St. John's Newfoundland first.

The Newfoundland accent will make you feel like you haven't left home. The scenery in the Avalon is a lot like the west coast of Ireland. The economy in Newfoundland is currently quite boiyant thanks to offshore oil. St. John's is quite a party town with great nightlife. There are more pubs per square km around George Street than anywhere else in North America.

Saint John NB also is a heavily Irish city but has a much different feel. It's much more North American.

The two cities in the Maritimes with the best economies are Moncton and Halifax. Halifax is larger and much better known. Moncton however tries harder and sometimes pulls a fast one on it's larger cousin.

For what it's worth, your countrymen U2 will be playing a summer concert at Magnetic Hill in Moncton this summer.

In any event, welcome to Canada. :tup:

At least our country isn't bankrupt (yet). :)

[Irishguy]

Thanks everyone.

I would consider all of Eastern Canada, Ontario east, but I would prefer to see the ocean if I could.

Whats the difference in Halifax and St. John's, besides their sizes. What does Halifax have that St. John's doesn't?

[Canadian Mind]

Thanks everyone.

I would consider all of Eastern Canada, Ontario east, but I would prefer to see the ocean if I could.

Whats the difference in Halifax and St. John's, besides their sizes. What does Halifax have that St. John's doesn't?

Slightly better looking women.

[-Harlington-]

:previous:
for which city ?
:cool: aha,

EDIT: aha, never mind i got what you were saying

[MonctonRad]

Slightly better looking women.

Yes, but the women in St. John's are much more lusty! :D

[flar]

The Great Lakes have some similarities with oceans.

[Vaillant]

The Great Lakes have some similarities with oceans.

i don't think the great lakes have similarities with oceans... i been on lake Ontario and lake michigan and it,s nothing like the atlantic ocean in nova scotia or even pacific ocean in Vancouver!

[-Harlington-]

theres nothing like the ocean

[PoscStudent]

The great lakes may not be much like your normal lakes but they're not compareable to the Atlantic Ocean.

I recommend St. John's, obviously! Ireland has played a big role in Newfoundland and Labrador's culture so that's great for you but what's most important the economy in the city is very strong. You shouldn't have a problem getting job, especially if you have a few months to wait.

[mr.John]

I'm a little puzzled how to you just pack your bags and move to Canada? I was under the impression the immigration process can be quite lenghty..unless you pull the political refugee scam then the doors are wide open

[Canadian Mind]

Yes, but the women in St. John's are much more lusty! :D

I'll pass. I don't want my dick to rot off. :)

[Cambridgite]

Thanks everyone.

I would consider all of Eastern Canada, Ontario east, but I would prefer to see the ocean if I could.

Whats the difference in Halifax and St. John's, besides their sizes. What does Halifax have that St. John's doesn't?

Halifax is more the 'big city' of Atlantic Canada. It has more tall buildings and more of an office component to its downtown than St. John's does. St. John's is more pedestrian-scale, and arguably has more impressive nightlife and architecture. It definitely has a more interesting topography, hands-down. While I can't speak about the Halifax situation, I know people are pretty friendly and go out of their way to welcome you in St. John's.

Related to your job, I think you'll find infinitely more opportunity in Ontario, even if we're being hit harder by the recession (we always bounce back after). It's simply a matter of scale, where Ontario is the economic heartland of Canada, hosting most of the industry and corporate headquarters in the country. It isn't dependent on primary resources and government for sustenance. Since your degree is in computer science, the high tech hotbeds are Kitchener-Waterloo, Ottawa, and certain suburbs of Toronto like Mississauga and Markham. All of these places feel quite different from the East Coast, in ways that are good, bad, and ugly.

[someone123]

St. John's is more pedestrian-scale, and arguably has more impressive nightlife and architecture. It definitely has a more interesting topography, hands-down. While I can't speak about the Halifax situation, I know people are pretty friendly and go out of their way to welcome you in St. John's.

Architecturally the two cities aren't in the same ballpark. Halifax has a lot more from every period and it's generally higher quality. Halifax also has a pretty good range of restaurants and live music venues (and live theatre etc. -- basically "culture" in a general sense) that is unmatched in the region and most of Canada. This is a big part of why somebody might choose to live there. St. John's is famous for having lots of pubs and Halifax has those too. I'd expect people to be friendlier in St. John's.

[Spoolmak]

I'll pass. I don't want my dick to rot off. :)

Lol like that will make him wanna move to St. Johns

[vid]

i don't think the great lakes have similarities with oceans... i been on lake Ontario and lake michigan and it,s nothing like the atlantic ocean in nova scotia or even pacific ocean in Vancouver!

Lakes Ontario and Michigan are crap. Lake Superior, however, has been described as "ocean like" by people who live near oceans, even those from Nova Scotia.

Which is Lake Superior and which is Cape Breton's coast?

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/10466007.jpg (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/10466007)

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/4244426.jpg (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/4244426)

Tell me this doesn't look like an ocean:

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/38127407.jpg (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/38127407)

Rock of Ages Lighthouse, SW of Isle Royale, in Lake Superior, Michigan.

The only think Lake Superior lacks from an ocean experience is the salty smell.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3441/3884042016_cff639bcb2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vidioman/3884042016/)
Silver Islet, Ontario

[Canadian Mind]

Lol like that will make him wanna move to St. Johns

He's Irish, I'm sure he's gotten himself into worse things.

I spent time up in Gagetown. And it seemed to me like a lot of the locals migrate south and west on the weekends. :yuck:

I figured there is a reason there is no mention of Freddie.

[flar]

One of my coworkers, born and raised in Dartmouth, NS, had never seen the Great Lakes before. She went to Port Dover, ON for a weekend this summer and the first thing she said when she got back was that it was just like the ocean.

For the Great Lakes doubters, I defy you to tell me which of these photos are from the Great Lakes and which are from the ocean.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/manitoulin/georgianbay4.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/manitoulin/tobermory3.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/manitoulin/miserybay2.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/manitoulin/tobermory9.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/manitoulin/miserybay5.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/manitoulin/georgianbay7.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/manitoulin/manitoulin6.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/manitoulin/miserybay4.jpg

[PoscStudent]

How much does it cost and how hard is it to get a house overlooking the great lakes?

[The_Architect]

If you want to have a good ol' Celtic experience Newfoundland and Nova Scotia (Cape Breton even more so) are where you want to go. Nova Scotia is more Scottish and Newfoundland is more Irish.. but if you want a bigger city then for NS it'd have to be Halifax and NL it'd have to be St. John's.
If you decide you want to get away from the Celtic feel and want to experience something else, I'd recommend Toronto/Montreal/Ottawa.

[vid]

How much does it cost and how hard is it to get a house overlooking the great lakes?

Depends on where you are. Some of the most expensive real estate in Ontario is along the lakeshore in Oakville where houses are worth millions. The cheapest lakeshore houses for sale around Thunder Bay are between $450,000 and $700,000, they're probably the cheapest on the Canadian side of the Great Lakes. Up here, it's much cheaper to buy a lot and build, though many places are getting built out.

[PoscStudent]

Depends on where you are. Some of the most expensive real estate in Ontario is along the lakeshore in Oakville where houses are worth millions. The cheapest lakeshore houses for sale around Thunder Bay are between $450,000 and $700,000, they're probably the cheapest on the Canadian side of the Great Lakes. Up here, it's much cheaper to buy a lot and build, though many places are getting built out.

Ocean views are common in St. John's metro and I say you can still get houses in the 200,000s with an ocean view.

[Wharn]

Lakes Ontario and Michigan are crap. Lake Superior, however, has been described as "ocean like" by people who live near oceans, even those from Nova Scotia.

Lake Ontario is actually not that bad:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/5395424771_e608cf217f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26486173@N07/5395424771/)
IMG_1685 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26486173@N07/5395424771/) by rising_sun_19 (http://www.flickr.com/people/26486173@N07/), on Flickr


But it cannot be compared to glorious Lake Huron:


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5177/5395976650_4453655a88_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26486173@N07/5395976650/)
IMG_1910 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26486173@N07/5395976650/) by rising_sun_19 (http://www.flickr.com/people/26486173@N07/), on Flickr

This Lake was the inspiration for that Enya song, "Caribbean Blue". Another photo, taken from Granit Ridge in Killarney Provincial Park (4 hours North of Toronto on an overcrowded highway, and a grueling 6 hour drive from London):

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/5396003140_8fc5dbae09_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26486173@N07/5396003140/)
IMG_1342 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26486173@N07/5396003140/) by rising_sun_19 (http://www.flickr.com/people/26486173@N07/), on Flickr

Not Mine, but Flowerpot Island (off the coast of Tobermory) is cool:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2561/3674288542_3c97b5e721_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabesh/3674288542/)
Flower pot island, Tobermory (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabesh/3674288542/) by sabesh (http://www.flickr.com/people/sabesh/), on Flickr

And also not mine, but still a very pro shot showing Chikanishing Creek flowing out to Georgian Bay:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_eI4xAjfG-c0/SeKwBDrLT5I/AAAAAAAAHCE/MkT40WpSA_0/_DSC0018.jpg

[MonkeyRonin]

Lakes Ontario and Michigan are crap. Lake Superior, however, has been described as "ocean like" by people who live near oceans, even those from Nova Scotia.

Which is Lake Superior and which is Cape Breton's coast?


All the great lakes look like the ocean, the real difference is that they lack the salty smell.

[someone123]

Not sure why there is this assumption that somebody leaving Ireland wants the most "Irish" experience possible.

Also "Irish" in North America usually means kitsch and strained attempts to mimic the culture.

[harls]

Just need to get out of Ireland ASAP!

How come you're posting from an IP in St. John's, may I ask..

[freeweed]

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Calgary, partly to be an obnoxious asshole but also because we seem to have hundreds if not thousands of Irish ex-pats here. They're some of the coolest people I've ever met.

[vid]

Ocean views are common in St. John's metro and I say you can still get houses in the 200,000s with an ocean view.

Well if you're talking about view, then you can get houses in the $200,000s with a lake view here, too.

All the great lakes look like the ocean, the real difference is that they lack the salty smell.

Yes, I said that. I say that all the time, in fact. It is one of my sayings regarding the lakes, especially Superior./

[MonkeyRonin]

Yes, I said that. I say that all the time, in fact. It is one of my sayings regarding the lakes, especially Superior./

Not quite, you said...

"Lakes Ontario and Michigan are crap. Lake Superior, however, has been described as "ocean like" by people who live near oceans, even those from Nova Scotia."

They're all pretty much the same though, so long as its big enough that you can't see the other side you can't really tell the difference between it and an ocean.

[freeweed]

They're all pretty much the same though, so long as its big enough that you can't see the other side you can't really tell the difference between it and an ocean.

This also applies to Lake Winnipeg. It's pretty freaky having an ocean feel in the centre of the continent.

[Cambridgite]

One of my coworkers, born and raised in Dartmouth, NS, had never seen the Great Lakes before. She went to Port Dover, ON for a weekend this summer and the first thing she said when she got back was that it was just like the ocean.

For the Great Lakes doubters, I defy you to tell me which of these photos are from the Great Lakes and which are from the ocean ...

I have to agree with Vid's assessment of Lake Ontario being unspectacular. Don't get me wrong...I like having it closeby (now that I'm living in St. Catharines temporarily), but it's not as nice as Lake Huron.

For the OP's reference, Lake Ontario is the one where a large metroplex known as the "Golden Horseshoe" wraps around. It accounts for a large portion of Southern Ontario's population and includes places like the Greater Toronto Area, Hamilton, and St. Catharines. Further to the northeast, Kingston, Brockville, and Belleville are also on the Lake. But the lake itself is pretty run-of-the-mill for the most part.

Lake Huron and Georgian Bay are almost Carribean looking in some places. White sandy beaches with aqua water. A lot of the small towns along it have a huge seasonal tourist base coming from all the various cities in Southern Ontario. I can't think of an equivalent to Sauble Beach, Wasaga Beach, Tobermory, or Grand Bend along the shores of Lake Ontario. Port Dalhousie (part of St. Catharines) is the closest comparison that comes to mind...and while nice, the beach itself isn't spectacular.

So if being really close to a nice lakefront area is important if you wanted to live in Ontario, you'd have to sacrifice the idea of living in a mid-sized or big city. There's Sarnia, at around 70,000 people, which is only a 20 minute drive. But Sarnia doesn't have a great deal to offer as a city. It's pretty basic.

[Dmajackson]

I'd vote for Halifax though any city in Atlantic Canada would probably work for you.

Halifax, St. John's and Moncton are all known for our strong economies.

Nightlife and culture is strong in all corners of the region (less so in Moncton).

As for friendliness I consider all of the region nice but for the most part the smaller the better. This being said though accents stand out stronger in smaller metro areas so Halifax is the best bet for fitting in. It doesn't take long to learn our "supposed" accent though.(Just don't sound like an American or Ontarian and you'll be treated like family).

If you do want to work for the government just remember Halifax and St. John's are huge regional centres for all levels of government along with major bases for the armed forces (Gagetown as well in this respect).

BTW the difference between salt water and fresh water is huge. Going from a place like Halifax to Calgary is a very strange sensation. I went west last summer and the lack of humidity and salt in the air disgusted me.

[freeweed]

BTW the difference between salt water and fresh water is huge. Going from a place like Halifax to Calgary is a very strange sensation. I went west last summer and the lack of humidity and salt in the air disgusted me.

That wasn't the difference between salt and fresh. That's simply the difference between a sauna and a desert. :haha:

But really? Lack of salt air "disgusted" you? You must not tolerate travel very well, as 99% of the planet isn't exposed to salt air.

[flar]

It's very humid around the Great Lakes, and they moderate the temperature too. Lake Huron has always been my favourite lake because of its sandy beaches. I've never like its coast, but Lake Erie has some neat little fishing villages like Erieau and Wheatley.

[Wishblade]

That wasn't the difference between salt and fresh. That's simply the difference between a sauna and a desert. :haha:

But really? Lack of salt air "disgusted" you? You must not tolerate travel very well, as 99% of the planet isn't exposed to salt air.

I've heard from a few people I know as well that going to Alberta is a difficult transition climate wise. And apparently the lack of seeing any sort of open body of water for so long can drive some crazy lol.

[freeweed]

I've heard from a few people I know as well that going to Alberta is a difficult transition climate wise. And apparently the lack of seeing any sort of open body of water for so long can drive some crazy lol.

It definitely causes the women to buy stock in skin cream companies, if you know what I mean. :haha: Prairie climate is a level of dryness unheard of on the coast, and southern Alberta is the most extreme example of it in Canada.

To be fair though, whenever I visit the coast I feel either cold and clammy or hot and sweaty due to the ridiculous amounts of humidity in the air. It's like your skin is constantly greased up or something. I don't know that I'd say I'm "disgusted" by it, it's just a different experience.

Really, it's just a matter of being able to adapt to change. We're all used to what we're used to.

[ciudad_del_norte]

It definitely causes the women to buy stock in skin cream companies, if you know what I mean. :haha: Prairie climate is a level of dryness unheard of on the coast, and southern Alberta is the most extreme example of it in Canada.

To be fair though, whenever I visit the coast I feel either cold and clammy or hot and sweaty due to the ridiculous amounts of humidity in the air. It's like your skin is constantly greased up or something. I don't know that I'd say I'm "disgusted" by it, it's just a different experience.

Really, it's just a matter of being able to adapt to change. We're all used to what we're used to.

Exactly... What you are used to in terms of climate/landscapes can make any significant changes unsettling. I grew up in Edmonton and I love my dry sunny weather. Have had a good time in coastal cities, but the humidity always makes me feel a bit off. Although I don't know if I would say it disgusts me... more its just unsettling and uncomfortable. I lived in a humid coastal climate for a while and felt wet and depressed a lot. Also lived inland in southern spain for a bit and loved it. The 1 or 2 days per year when you can sense any humidity in the air here seem to garner more complaints than times like now when the temperature has dropped 30 degrees since thursday.

[vid]

For the OP's reference, Lake Ontario is the one where a large metroplex known as the "Golden Horseshoe" wraps around. It accounts for a large portion of Southern Ontario's population and includes places like the Greater Toronto Area, Hamilton, and St. Catharines. Further to the northeast, Kingston, Brockville, and Belleville are also on the Lake. But the lake itself is pretty run-of-the-mill for the most part.

And Toronto, in case you have yet to figure it out, it chock full of hometown boosters who get really pissy when someone on the internet implies that their city might not be the best in the world at every little thing. :rolleyes:

[freeweed]

And Toronto, in case you have yet to figure it out, it chock full of hometown boosters who get really pissy when someone on the internet implies that their city might not be the best in the world at every little thing. :rolleyes:

vid, I'm not sure if you're a hockey fan or not, but T.Bay boy Eric Stall made a wicked zinger at Torontonians last night. :haha:

[Dmajackson]

That wasn't the difference between salt and fresh. That's simply the difference between a sauna and a desert. :haha:

But really? Lack of salt air "disgusted" you? You must not tolerate travel very well, as 99% of the planet isn't exposed to salt air.

I can tolerate travel fine since I was able to do the mountain skywalk thing in Banff (the gondola) but the air is just very strange to me out west. When I travel (which isnt very often) I normally travel near the coast so with the exception of Alberta, Quebec and Ontario I haven't been too far inland.

[Only The Lonely..]

No Irish!!! ;)

[Only The Lonely..]

And Toronto, in case you have yet to figure it out, it chock full of hometown boosters who get really pissy when someone on the internet implies that their city might not be the best in the world at every little thing. :rolleyes:

You don't say?

[Only The Lonely..]

Anyways, be a man and move to Winnipeg.

Lesser Canadians can't handle our winter..especially the prissy Toronto variety, only the strong can survive.

[niwell]

And Toronto, in case you have yet to figure it out, it chock full of hometown boosters who get really pissy when someone on the internet implies that their city might not be the best in the world at every little thing. :rolleyes:

Not really, there's just a few select ones that seem to make up for the rest. The attitude of Torontonians on forums besides this one and SSC could best be described as self-deprecating.

[Cambridgite]

And Toronto, in case you have yet to figure it out, it chock full of hometown boosters who get really pissy when someone on the internet implies that their city might not be the best in the world at every little thing. :rolleyes:

Okayyyyy. What does that have to do with my post about Lake Ontario vs. Lake Huron?

[vid]

vid, I'm not sure if you're a hockey fan or not, but T.Bay boy Eric Stall made a wicked zinger at Torontonians last night. :haha:

:shrug:

Not really, there's just a few select ones that seem to make up for the rest. The attitude of Torontonians on forums besides this one and SSC could best be described as self-deprecating.

I know that it's just a few, but the loud minorities have a way of appearing larger than they really are.

Okayyyyy. What does that have to do with my post about Lake Ontario vs. Lake Huron?

You explained the GTA, I expanded on Toronto. :frog:

[freeweed]

Anyways, be a man and move to Winnipeg.

Lesser Canadians can't handle our winter..especially the prissy Toronto variety, only the strong can survive.

I think I have to agree with this statement. I've always said that the answer to Canada's immigration situation is to allow completely unlimited immigration - with the requirement that all new immigrants have to live through 3 full years in Winnipeg, then they can move wherever they want in the country.

We'd have the most dedicated and strong-willed people on the planet.