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mthq
Dec 19, 2011, 9:12 AM
Here's a link to the top 150 U.S. city flags (http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Design/city_survey.htm) as ranked by the North American Vexiologist(sp) Association (yes, there's a field of study dedicated to flags).

my thoughts:

-I think Chicago should be #1. Washington D.C.'s, while nice and fitting the qualities of a good flag, feels too ...bureaucratic (yeah, I know, I know..) and soulless to be taking the top position.

-For America's second city, I think Los Angeles needs to look for a new flag. I like that they try to bring in the colors of Mexico and Spain into their design, but I think there's better ways to achieve it. The zig zags and green are what particularly bother me.

-The flag of Fresno, CA looks wayyy too 1960s. Wouldn't be surprised if that's when it was designed. Not that it's a particularly bad thing btw...

-Oakland has a really solid flag. It deserves a place in the top 10 imo (perhaps knocking down Corpus Christi).

-The flags of Arlington and Plano look more like the logo of a gas station.

-As for Pocatello, Idaho, they should at least get points for going all the way and adding "Proud to be" to top it all off :P

urbanlife
Dec 19, 2011, 9:42 AM
Wow, there are some pretty bad flags on that list...though some really good ones too. The Chicago flag has always been a favorite of mine. I have that one on a tshirt and it is my Chicago shirt that only people who really know Chicago seem to know it.

I have always been a fan of the Portland flag, though I feel like it isn't used or represented much here. The green and white flag with the doug fir tree in the middle of it seems to be noticed more.

Also, gotta love the NYC flag for just being a traditional looking flag....with Mets colors.

Expat
Dec 19, 2011, 1:04 PM
Glad that the St. Louis flag made it to the top five. Hometown bias aside, I really like it. It looks good flying over red brick.

DC is almost like my 2nd hometown after living there 15 years. It is a good flag, but looks a bit too military. The Boston flag is a dud.

hammersklavier
Dec 19, 2011, 2:18 PM
I always disagree with their listings...mostly because I like flags with seals. One of my favorite national flags, for example, is Mexico's.

BnaBreaker
Dec 19, 2011, 2:36 PM
I don't think these people even realize that Tennessee is a state. Where are the TN flags?

I've always liked Nashville's flag. It's simple, but like hammersklavier, I typically prefer flags with seals.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/20/Nashville_flag.png

turigamot
Dec 19, 2011, 2:47 PM
DC's flag is the coat of arms for George Washington. It isn't "bureaucratic". It is symbolic, and logical. To call it soulless is... extremely uncouth.

Vlajos
Dec 19, 2011, 2:51 PM
DC's flag is the coat of arms for George Washington. It isn't "bureaucratic". It is symbolic, and logical. To call it soulless is... extremely uncouth.

Or it's someone's opinion.

HomeInMyShoes
Dec 19, 2011, 2:54 PM
I think the rating the lousiest ones is more fun. A lot of the ones near the bottom of the list are pretty tragic.

Private Dick
Dec 19, 2011, 2:54 PM
Yeah... this one is awesome!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Flag_of_Provo%2C_Utah.svg/374px-Flag_of_Provo%2C_Utah.svg.png

It looks like it should be a brand name on a cheap Mexican laundry detergent box.

novawolverine
Dec 19, 2011, 3:06 PM
I think this has been posted before. But I agree w/ DC ranking near the top. With such a strong Chicago contingent on this board, it's easy to forget that there are a lot of other city flags that people take pride in and are shown often.

Private Dick
Dec 19, 2011, 3:24 PM
I don't see what it so great about DC or Chicago's flag. Stars and a couple stripes.

Now, Provo's on the other hand, fucking rocks. The shadowed font, the upward-slanting rainbow spectrum. It's right there in your face letting you know right the hell where you're at -- Provo, dude.

novawolverine
Dec 19, 2011, 4:17 PM
I don't see what it so great about DC or Chicago's flag. Stars and a couple stripes.

Now, Provo's on the other hand, fucking rocks. The shadowed font, the upward-slanting rainbow spectrum. It's right there in your face letting you know right the hell where you're at -- Provo, dude.

There are a lot of in-your-face flags w/ the city's name plastered across it, including most of those towards the bottom of the list. Something tells me that the people who voted in the poll don't like that look so much.

Nowhereman1280
Dec 19, 2011, 4:21 PM
I don't see what it so great about DC or Chicago's flag. Stars and a couple stripes.

Now, Provo's on the other hand, fucking rocks. The shadowed font, the upward-slanting rainbow spectrum. It's right there in your face letting you know right the hell where you're at -- Provo, dude.

^^^ So are most flags? I mean 90% of flags around the world are just a couple of stripes with maybe a seal thrown in. That's the entire point of flags. They are supposed to be abstract symbols of the place they represent. Sort of how sports team's colors come to represent a community. Read up on Chicago's flag and you'll see that everything on the flag represents something relevant to the city's history or geography.

/I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not Lol...

I don't like DC's flag, it's too lopsided to the top, but it's pretty good.

Chicago's flag is probably easily the most successful. I've never been to any other city where the flag is so noticeable and widely used. Hell I've seen Chicago flags many times outside of Chicago in people's apartments or even being hung from a balcony or flag pole. It's not just the city government that uses it, but even ordinary citizens who use it to represent their civic pride. When you are in Chicago you see the Chicago flag as much if not more often than the US flag.

Yeah... this one is awesome!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Flag_of_Provo%2C_Utah.svg/374px-Flag_of_Provo%2C_Utah.svg.png

It looks like it should be a brand name on a cheap Mexican laundry detergent box.

Lol, seriously? Do they really have a flag where the text has shadowing? Did they draw this up in 1995 using Lotus Word Pro?

novawolverine
Dec 19, 2011, 4:26 PM
I don't like DC's flag, it's too lopsided to the top, but it's pretty good.

Chicago's flag is probably easily the most successful. I've never been to any other city where the flag is so noticeable and widely used. Hell I've seen Chicago flags many times outside of Chicago in people's apartments or even being hung from a balcony or flag pole. It's not just the city government that uses it, but even ordinary citizens who use it to represent their civic pride. When you are in Chicago you see the Chicago flag as much if not more often than the US flag.

Come to DC and you will see the DC flag all over the place. You see the American flag, the state flags, and other country's flags, but the DC flag is also prominent, including on every license plate.

http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/12/30/1230695536_5116/539w.jpg

emathias
Dec 19, 2011, 4:26 PM
While there are a lot of duds, too, there are more cool city flags out there than I would have guessed.

Also nice to see quite a few displaying French influence with a Fleur-de-lis.

Tony
Dec 19, 2011, 4:53 PM
I have that one on a tshirt and it is my Chicago shirt that only people who really know Chicago seem to know it.

I was gonna say the Chicago flag is the only one I even know! (as a non-American).

ChiSoxRox
Dec 19, 2011, 4:55 PM
While my favorite flag is probably Chicago's, I have soft spots for a few other flags. I love the black and yellow contrast on Pittsburgh's flag, and the shield has this sort of gritty feel to me that fits Pittsburgh well, with the looming castle and heavy lines. Baltimore's flag has the same eye-catching color scheme, but in the slanting manner of the Maryland state flag/Calvert family shield.

Another one I like is Detroit's flag, from the history in the quadrants by way of the various flags that have flown over Detroit, to the colorful seal with the city mottos (We hope for better things, We shall rise from the ashes) that seem almost prescient for that sad city... The flag even has a cameo in a couple of the Chrysler 300 commercials focusing on Detroit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEdN7XFekFQ).

Steely Dan
Dec 19, 2011, 5:18 PM
discounting chicago's flag out of my own hometown bias, i think st. louis has a great city flag. honorable mentions to indy, DC, and denver.

i do NOT like words or seals or highly intricate designs on flags. flag design should be simple, straightforward, and readable from a decent distance.

Segun
Dec 19, 2011, 5:28 PM
The great thing about the Chicago flag is that it can be incorporated into designs. There's hundreds of variations of them that I've seen around town, including this one:

http://www.zazzle.com/chicago_hip_hop_tshirt-235412680119348359


:D

Xelebes
Dec 19, 2011, 5:36 PM
Washington and Chicago's flags do nothing for me. Portland's Confluence Cross is the best.

RCDC
Dec 19, 2011, 5:37 PM
Well, I'm partial to DCs and not just because I'm here. It's an extremely simple graphic and yet instantly recognizable even when scaled down to a thumbnail. Chicago's is like that too. The top flags in that list generally follow that idea.

HomeInMyShoes
Dec 19, 2011, 5:39 PM
The more and more I look at the flags I'm stuck with the realisation that cities shouldn't have flags any more than concrete companies should design buildings.

Cirrus
Dec 19, 2011, 5:52 PM
If you want to know what makes a good flag, and why certain flags are ranked highly or lowly, then read this guide to what makes a good flag by the North American Vexillological Association (http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Design/GFBF/gfbf-1.htm). The top-scoring flags conform to all of their rules on flag design.

By the time you get to around #25 or so, you start to see a lot of rule breaking, and a lot of bad flags.

My major pet peeve, confirmed by NAVA as "bad," is any flag with writing. Flags are supposed to be graphical. They should not have writing.

Cirrus
Dec 19, 2011, 5:54 PM
Also, this really shouldn't be called "top 150 flags". It should be "150 flags we found, ranked". They are missing a lot of flags, both good and bad.

Here's a really great one they are missing: Rockville, MD:

http://www.crwflags.com/art/states/md-rockville.gif

ChiSoxRox
Dec 19, 2011, 6:26 PM
Dayton's flag: nice airplane, bad label, and is that supposed to be a machine gear around the world?

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-oh-da.gif

The suburb I'm currently in has a simple flag, just this logo on a white background:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Coralville_logo.jpg

However, they slap the town name on the flag as well.

mthq
Dec 19, 2011, 7:19 PM
I think the heavy use of seals and lettering on American city, and especially state flags, have accustomed some to see nothing wrong with them. There's not a lot of flags on an international level that would follow this criteria for flags are supposed to be distinguishable from a distance (especially as a flags original purpose was to fly on ships or identify battalions). Some European cities violate the rules too, but not as much as us Yankees, it seems.



Also, gotta love the NYC flag for just being a traditional looking flag....with Mets colors.


Don't forget Knicks and Islanders colors too. The whole blue, orange, white theme is based on the original colors of the Netherlands flag (who of course settled Manhattan) ;)

Ch.G, Ch.G
Dec 19, 2011, 7:51 PM
i do NOT like words or seals or highly intricate designs on flags. flag design should be simple, straightforward, and readable from a decent distance.

:yes: Exactly! That's the whole point of flags/standards. You're supposed to be able to take one quick look and immediately and exactly know the place it represents.

American flags suck next to Japanese flags (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_flags#Prefectural_flags).

Nowhereman1280
Dec 19, 2011, 8:12 PM
Another thing about Chicago flags; hipsters here LOVE it. Its probably the most common tattoo in the city. I've seen dozens of hipsters sporting some variation of the flag around their arm or on their calf. It's commonly turned into a continuous band that goes all the way around an arm or leg. I want to get a Shelby Cobra and paint it with the Chicago flag in the same way they painted the car in Austin Powers with the Union Jack.

Come to DC and you will see the DC flag all over the place. You see the American flag, the state flags, and other country's flags, but the DC flag is also prominent, including on every license plate.

http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/12/30/1230695536_5116/539w.jpg

Well I don't think the downstaters would be very happy if we put the Chicago flag on the Illinois license plate! Lol.

Really I think DC and Chicago both have great flags and it's probably a wash between the two of them.

bunt_q
Dec 19, 2011, 8:20 PM
My major pet peeve, confirmed by NAVA as "bad," is any flag with writing. Flags are supposed to be graphical. They should not have writing.

I agree. And also put me in the camp with those who do not like seals on flags.

I am glad to see Denver so high. And not just because I live here, but because it's quite effective as a flag. Always enjoyable to go someplace like Winter Park (owned by the city) and see the Denver flag flying. Not many cities could get away with that and not have it seem ridiculous.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d94/bbutzin/10103_IMG_0052.jpg

(It's better as a standalone.)

Cirrus
Dec 19, 2011, 8:23 PM
Another thing about Chicago flags; hipsters here LOVE it. Its probably the most common tattoo in the city.
I see a lot of DC flag tattoos too. It's a very iconic image.

The_Architect
Dec 19, 2011, 8:24 PM
Plano's flag looks like a now-defunct gas station from the 80's.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Plano_TX_Flag.png

novawolverine
Dec 19, 2011, 8:33 PM
Toronto has a pretty good flag as well, but is pretty new. It's another w/ blue, white, and red. I'm a big fan of the Canadian flag, though; its design and colors.

http://www.toronto.ca/protocol/images/torontoflag.jpg

futuresooner
Dec 19, 2011, 8:37 PM
Yeah... this one is awesome!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Flag_of_Provo%2C_Utah.svg/374px-Flag_of_Provo%2C_Utah.svg.png

It looks like it should be a brand name on a cheap Mexican laundry detergent box.

They basically took the Centrum vitamins logo and turned it slightly and tossed Provo on there instead of "Centrum."

RCDC
Dec 19, 2011, 8:37 PM
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d94/bbutzin/10103_IMG_0052.jpg

(It's better as a standalone.)

huh? I think the Denver and Colorado flags look real good together. Or did you mean on it's own flagpole?

DC's works with the US flag really well I think:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5221/5639367644_b46e6f11af.jpg
Ryan Janek Wolowski (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanisland/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanisland/5639367644/

bunt_q
Dec 19, 2011, 8:50 PM
I meant its own flagpole. :) But you're right, they do compliment each other nicely.

Ch.G, Ch.G
Dec 19, 2011, 8:52 PM
Colorado's flag is great. So is Canada's.

bnk
Dec 19, 2011, 8:54 PM
The great thing about the Chicago flag is that it can be incorporated into designs. There's hundreds of variations of them that I've seen around town, including this one:

http://www.zazzle.com/chicago_hip_hop_tshirt-235412680119348359


:D
I know what you mean. You can get the Chicago flag on almost anything you want around here. From shoes to soap and they are working on the soup.


Anyway have we talked about coaches flags yet?

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/collecting-chicago/assets_c/2011/03/Championship%20Coaches%20Chicago%20Flag%20T-Shirt.Close%20up-thumb-304x304-341003.jpg
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/collecting-chicago/assets_c/2011/03/Championship%20Coaches%20Chicago%20Flag%20T-Shirt.Close%20up-thumb-304x304-341003.jpg

HomeInMyShoes
Dec 19, 2011, 8:58 PM
^Okay, I'm firmly in the Chicago camp now.

ChiSoxRox
Dec 19, 2011, 9:07 PM
I know what you mean. You can get the Chicago flag on almost anything you want around here. From shoes to soap and they are working on the soup.


Anyway have we talked about coaches flags yet?

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/collecting-chicago/assets_c/2011/03/Championship%20Coaches%20Chicago%20Flag%20T-Shirt.Close%20up-thumb-304x304-341003.jpg
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/collecting-chicago/assets_c/2011/03/Championship%20Coaches%20Chicago%20Flag%20T-Shirt.Close%20up-thumb-304x304-341003.jpg

What's a bear on birth control, the World Series, and that flag have in common? No Cubs! :banana:

Here's some more Canadian flags:
Montreal
http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/ekmps/shops/speed/images/montreal-flag-499-p.gif

Vancouver
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Flag_of_Vancouver_%28Canada%29.svg/500px-Flag_of_Vancouver_%28Canada%29.svg.png

Calgary (lovely salmon color)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Flag_of_Calgary%2C_Alberta.svg/500px-Flag_of_Calgary%2C_Alberta.svg.png

Edmonton
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/Flag_of_Edmonton.svg/500px-Flag_of_Edmonton.svg.png

Ottawa
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Flag_of_Ottawa%2C_Ontario.svg

Hamilton
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Flag_of_Hamilton.svg

Winnipeg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Flag_of_Winnipeg.svg/500px-Flag_of_Winnipeg.svg.png

mthq
Dec 19, 2011, 10:03 PM
^I like Calgary's best, though it does look a little dated.

I never really cared too much for the Denver flag as it takes the uncommon path of displaying a landscape rather than lines and stars, but this picture below has really sold me on it :)


http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d94/bbutzin/10103_IMG_0052.jpg

(It's better as a standalone.)

The D.C. flag also looks good next to the American... but I'm still with Chicago as my most favorite.

Buckeye Native 001
Dec 19, 2011, 10:28 PM
I'm surprised the Phoenix flag is ranked as high as it is. Not one I'd put in my top five.

vid
Dec 19, 2011, 11:02 PM
Yeah... this one is awesome!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Flag_of_Provo%2C_Utah.svg/374px-Flag_of_Provo%2C_Utah.svg.png

It looks like it should be a brand name on a cheap Mexican laundry detergent box.

Aww, I wanted to make that joke!! :(

"Stained toilet? Tackle it the easy way with:

http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Design/City%20Survey%202004/city_flag_photos/Provo.jpg

Quality toilet bowl cleaner today!"



Thunder Bay flies its flag all over town, and almost always on its own flag pole. We're not as extreme about it as Chicago is with their flag, but its more common to see here than Toronto's flag is in Toronto.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4100/4784734328_3bfcdc912a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vidioman/4784734328/)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Flag_of_Thunder_Bay.svg/640px-Flag_of_Thunder_Bay.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Thunder_Bay)

I don't think there is anything wrong with cities having their own flags, they simply need to have well designed flags. None of this "stick your logo on a white field" crap. Flags should never have text on them either.

Centropolis
Dec 19, 2011, 11:13 PM
Tackle those tough to erase urine streaks PRONTO WITH PROVO.


Sorry, forgot this isnt the midwest board. :haha:

Expat
Dec 20, 2011, 12:33 AM
I see a lot of DC flag tattoos too. It's a very iconic image.

I remember seeing a lot of DC flag tattoos, too. I think it makes a cool tattoo.

Xing
Dec 20, 2011, 1:12 AM
Well I don't think the downstaters would be very happy if we put the Chicago flag on the Illinois license plate! Lol.


No shit? Chicago isn't a federal district.

I don't think they would mind if the Chicago skyline was on there, or even just the Willis Tower or Hancock Building. I know I wouldn't. But a city flag on a state license plate makes no sense unless the city was also the state, or federal district.

...

I still have our old D.C. license plates at my parent's house.. I'm glad they're still using them. It was odd to see them in mass again after so many years, but in Chicago, while they shot Transformers 3.

touraccuracy
Dec 20, 2011, 1:56 AM
denver's is ugly and provo's is hilarious.

state flags seem to be a bit more consistant. i'm a fan of the flags of new mexico, colorado, and texas. california's is awesome too and i don't mind the writing because it seems consistant with cali cities having their names on their flags as well.

the tennessee flag's grown on me too.

http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/flags/images/tn_fi.gif

Centropolis
Dec 20, 2011, 2:01 AM
The stars on Tennessee's flag I believe represents the three regions of the state...mountainous, middle, and west Tennessee, which do all have their own "flavors."

The Missouri flag is kind of meh.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Flag_of_Missouri.svg/257px-Flag_of_Missouri.svg.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Flag_of_Missouri.svg/257px-Flag_of_Missouri.svg.png

Here is the Missouri seal which is a close up of the inside of the Missouri flag.

http://canaryinthecoalmine.typepad.com/.a/6a013487f321e0970c01538e043a23970b-800wi
http://canaryinthecoalmine.typepad.com/.a/6a013487f321e0970c01538e043a23970b-800wi

Private Dick
Dec 20, 2011, 2:03 AM
Pittsburgh's is pretty badass -- none of those silly little stars and pastel stripes.

http://images.wikia.com/icehockey/images/3/34/Pittsburgh_Flag.png

LSyd
Dec 20, 2011, 2:11 AM
i love Birmingham's flag, and glad to see it made the top 50 (should be higher.) it looks like a commie nation's flag.

-

Xing
Dec 20, 2011, 2:15 AM
Pittsburgh's is pretty badass -- none of those silly little stars and pastel stripes.

http://images.wikia.com/icehockey/images/3/34/Pittsburgh_Flag.png

I agree actually. The colors are very unique, and black and yellow does hint at badassness.

mthq
Dec 20, 2011, 2:22 AM
i love Birmingham's flag, and glad to see it made the top 50 (should be higher.) it looks like a commie nation's flag.

I think that honor would go to Albuquerque first.

http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Design/City%20Survey%202004/city_flag_photos/Albuquerque.jpg
NAVA (http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Design/city_survey.htm)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg/300px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png
wikipedia (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg/300px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union&h=150&w=300&sz=3&tbnid=Miw4qqPfpnYOLM:&tbnh=61&tbnw=121&zoom=1&docid=VPssjq76X7-IMM&hl=&sa=X&ei=4vDvTuqRJIGTiQK36KiXDg&ved=0CD0Q9QEwAA&dur=1864)



Here is the Missouri seal which is a close up of the inside of the Missouri flag.

http://canaryinthecoalmine.typepad.com/.a/6a013487f321e0970c01538e043a23970b-800wi
http://canaryinthecoalmine.typepad.com/.a/6a013487f321e0970c01538e043a23970b-800wi

hehe, bears...

Xing
Dec 20, 2011, 2:28 AM
they're seducing the seal. ^

texcolo
Dec 20, 2011, 2:36 AM
I think I found my new avatar...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r112/texcolo/TexcoloFlag.jpg

:D

Private Dick
Dec 20, 2011, 2:55 AM
^ Awesome

AviationGuy
Dec 20, 2011, 3:02 AM
For me, the flags that are most appealing are:

Corpus Christi
Phoenix
Albuquerque
Atlanta

There are many good ones, and some are really awful.

ChiSoxRox
Dec 20, 2011, 3:04 AM
I agree actually. The colors are very unique, and black and yellow does hint at badassness.

In my post back on the first page, I pointed out that I've found only one other flag with the black-yellow combo, which is one of my favorite color schemes: Baltimore

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_Baltimore_City.svg/800px-Flag_of_Baltimore_City.svg.png

AviationGuy
Dec 20, 2011, 3:05 AM
I don't see what it so great about DC or Chicago's flag. Stars and a couple stripes.

Now, Provo's on the other hand, fucking rocks. The shadowed font, the upward-slanting rainbow spectrum. It's right there in your face letting you know right the hell where you're at -- Provo, dude.

Sort of ironic, though, to have a rainbow design in that part of the country.

Private Dick
Dec 20, 2011, 3:15 AM
Sort of ironic, though, to have a rainbow design in that part of the country.

Ironic? Why? I don't get it -- most Mormons are gay, right?

bunt_q
Dec 20, 2011, 3:26 AM
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r112/texcolo/TexcoloFlag.jpg

Awesome.

Pittsburgh's flag is downright intimidating. It says, "Don't screw with us."

krudmonk
Dec 20, 2011, 3:57 AM
California has a great state flag, but the cities within....

Fresno: not just a city, but also an indie fashion boutique
Los Angeles: something Spike Lee wore in 1992
Oakland: where people don't see color, because they're literally colorblind
Sacramento: Intro to Graphic Design
San Francisco: drawn by a first-grader with permanent markers
San Diego & San Jose: "Crap, we have to make a seal and a flag? Wait, I know..."

Some of the smaller cities look a lot better.

Centropolis
Dec 20, 2011, 4:06 AM
Hahah. That's hilarious. I guess California blew it's wad on the state flag, which is one of my favorite, even though it has text on it.

ChiSoxRox
Dec 20, 2011, 4:13 AM
Tampa joins Nepal and Ohio in acting out through a non-rectangular flag.

Seriously, what would you call this? A spork pennant?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Flag_of_Tampa%2C_Florida.svg/640px-Flag_of_Tampa%2C_Florida.svg.png

The council meeting to make a flag for Milwaukee:
"Let's make it blue, blue is such a pretty color and it goes with the lake."
"Good point, but let's stick in some waves to make it clear we're on a lake."
"And to show the world we're hard workers, let's stick on a big gear."
"But we're not just industry, we've got a nice skyline!"
"OK, we'll put on a profile."
"Don't forget we're in the Midwest! Room for a piece of corn or wheat or something?"
"There is now!"
"Let's not neglect the shipping industry that put us on the map."
"Alright, so we've got a boat on there. Anything else we want to consider?"
"The brave Native Americans who had this land before us?"
"Um, we can fit him in the gear I guess."
"But wait, who'll know what city it's for?"
"Ooh, good question--"
"THE NAME. IT NEEDS THE NAME. And the date for good measure."
"Dear God in heaven, what have we created?"
"Eh, don't worry about it, we'll slap it on a flagpole by the lake and no one will notice."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Flag_of_Milwaukee%2C_Wisconsin.svg/640px-Flag_of_Milwaukee%2C_Wisconsin.svg.png

Private Dick
Dec 20, 2011, 4:31 AM
^ Unbelievable.

The cartoony Indian chief really pulls it all together.

Private Dick
Dec 20, 2011, 4:41 AM
When I was a kid, I always thought Buffalo's flag was pretty cool.

Now, the lightning bolts (representing Buffalo's contributions to electricity I guess) seem to be a bit ridiculous radiating out of a maritime scene.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Flag_of_Buffalo,_New_York.svg/800px-Flag_of_Buffalo,_New_York.svg.png

I think Regina, Saskatchewan has a pretty good looking flag -- simple, elegant, good colors:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Flag_of_Regina.svg/590px-Flag_of_Regina.svg.png
wikipedia

Baronvonellis
Dec 20, 2011, 4:43 AM
How about the Aladdin's lamp whats that for?

ChiSoxRox
Dec 20, 2011, 4:45 AM
And as far as I can tell, next to the chief is a manufacturing worker crapping his pants in joy at discovering a magic lamp with a genie that will finally get him out of Milwaukee and off that flag.

Alas, the flag was designed in 1955, which means that it missed out on the one bit of Milwaukee that would have saved it.

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/files/2010/12/fonzie_henry_winkler_happy_days.jpg

Clevelumbus
Dec 20, 2011, 5:03 AM
Milwaukee even has a flag on the flag!

I've always liked Cleveland's, and remember seeing it used frequently growing up there. I'm thinking Progress & Prosperity was added later?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Flag_of_Cleveland%2C_Ohio.svg/800px-Flag_of_Cleveland%2C_Ohio.svg.png
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Cleveland,_Ohio.svg

Really like Pittsburgh and Baltimore a lot (as well as Maryland)

I actually don't mind Oakland's..

Private Dick
Dec 20, 2011, 5:19 AM
Milwaukee's flag should just be this:

http://www.stuffking.com/images/Miller_High_Life_Tracker_Yellow_Shirt.jpg

Boquillas
Dec 20, 2011, 5:20 AM
Observations:
The Omaha flag (http://www.maurice-ravel.net/denver.htm)
http://www.maurice-ravel.net/images/omaha.gif
seen from far away reminds me of the Grateful Dead logo:
http://www.thebear.org/gd.1n
link (http://www.thebear.org/GDLogo.html)

Colorado Springs' flag looks like the Blue Man Pope:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Flag_of_Colorado_Springs%2C_Colorado.svg/500px-Flag_of_Colorado_Springs%2C_Colorado.svg.png
source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Colorado_Springs,_Colorado.svg)

St. Petersburg's flag has a pelican wearing cement shoes, with the water level rising.:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-fl-sp.gif
source (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-fl-sp.html)

And a half-dozen of the other flags on that list have faces in them. Anchorage's face is even winking.

How's that for a Rorshach response?

Private Dick
Dec 20, 2011, 5:35 AM
Wichita. I like it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Flag_of_Wichita,_Kansas.svg/800px-Flag_of_Wichita,_Kansas.svg.png
wikipedia

touraccuracy
Dec 20, 2011, 6:08 AM
the regina flag is classy as hell. lovely.

I think I found my new avatar...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r112/texcolo/TexcoloFlag.jpg

:D

real laughter was produced.

bunt_q
Dec 20, 2011, 6:21 AM
A flag I've always hated here locally, and a city that should be thankful it didn't make the list: I give you, Pueblo, Colorado:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d94/bbutzin/us-co-pueblo.gif

Derek
Dec 20, 2011, 6:25 AM
I LOVE Cincinnati's flag.



Props to Portland for it's top 10 ranking in this silly list. I've always loved that flag. :D

LMich
Dec 20, 2011, 7:54 AM
I've always been a fan of Pittsburgh's flag and seal, and now being introduced to Baltimore's, I'm a fan of their's, too.

Never a big fan of my hometown's flag. Detroit's municipal flag:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4143/4785569008_b1b8341268_b.jpg
csgholz (http://www.flickr.com/photos/csgholz/4785569008/)

It's too busy, and to add insult to injury, it comes across as unoriginal, copying the national flag too much.

mthq
Dec 20, 2011, 8:54 AM
The Regina flag is indeed kick ass. In fact I think I like it more than any of the American city flags.

As dorky as it sounds, it would be neat if there were a tournament in which the best city flags of each country would go on to compete globally. I'd put my money on Amsterdam as a likely winner.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/499665869_eda6199c05.jpg
source (forums.philosophyforums.com)



And a half-dozen of the other flags on that list have faces in them. Anchorage's face is even winking.

How's that for a Rorshach response?

Probably explains why I always get aroused when driving by city hall..

novawolverine
Dec 20, 2011, 1:44 PM
I don't think I've seen a flag that I really like w/ more than 3 colors.

RCDC
Dec 20, 2011, 1:53 PM
^

Roswell, New Mexico is pretty sweet.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_x3YBofVUADM/TOQbnLXfebI/AAAAAAAACUU/1YhzIGVXWNY/s1600/270px-Roswell_flag.svg.png
http://zebratigerfish.blogspot.com/2010/11/featured-city-flag-roswell-new-mexico.html

krudmonk
Dec 20, 2011, 5:24 PM
this silly list

This is actually one of the better lists posted here, as the criteria is narrowly defined and it doesn't pretend to be the least bit scientific.

Cirrus
Dec 20, 2011, 5:39 PM
Detroit's flag would be great if they simply removed the seal.

Here's another interesting one, from Montgomery County, MD. Maryland has a lot of good flags.

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-md-mc.gif

... And, to be fair, some really truly awful ones:

http://www.gaithersburgmd.gov/images/profile/logo.jpg

Private Dick
Dec 20, 2011, 5:39 PM
The Regina flag is indeed kick ass. In fact I think I like it more than any of the American city flags.

Yeah, I agree. I think Regina my favorite US/Canada city flag. And, it rhymes with vagina, so that's pretty cool.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Flag_of_Regina.svg/590px-Flag_of_Regina.svg.png
wikipedia

Amsterdam's is really cool.

Derek
Dec 20, 2011, 9:41 PM
This is actually one of the better lists posted here, as the criteria is narrowly defined and it doesn't pretend to be the least bit scientific.

Good point. :P

mthq
Dec 20, 2011, 10:54 PM
^yeah Derek, don't be crapping on my list! :D

http://www.gaithersburgmd.gov/images/profile/logo.jpg

Gaithersburg A Character Counts! City?

vid
Dec 20, 2011, 11:11 PM
That is their way of politely saying they don't want any gays, blacks or muslims living there.

Derek
Dec 20, 2011, 11:57 PM
I didn't crap on anything! :jester:

Private Dick
Dec 21, 2011, 1:24 AM
I didn't crap on anything! :jester:

Oh come on, what about that hooker's chest?

texcolo
Dec 21, 2011, 2:35 AM
the regina flag is classy as hell. lovely.



real laughter was produced.

Thanks. I took my time to really capture the look of the Provo flag with pinpoint accuracy, and it still only took me 45 seconds.

Also: I think they should relax the rule on lettering on flags for cities. There are hundreds of cities and not every city has an interesting history, impressive landmark, or geographical feature to draw from.

AviationGuy
Dec 21, 2011, 2:48 AM
^

Roswell, New Mexico is pretty sweet.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_x3YBofVUADM/TOQbnLXfebI/AAAAAAAACUU/1YhzIGVXWNY/s1600/270px-Roswell_flag.svg.png
http://zebratigerfish.blogspot.com/2010/11/featured-city-flag-roswell-new-mexico.html

That IS nice. That would be my favorite, then.

Cirrus
Dec 21, 2011, 4:13 PM
Gaithersburg A Character Counts! City?
That is their way of politely saying they don't want any gays, blacks or muslims living there.
Not to defend the stupid slogan, but that isn't what it means. On the contrary, tolerance is one of the key aspects. Gaithersburg is fairly socially liberal, and quite ethnically diverse.

Character Counts is a civic education program that Gaithersburg was duped into putting on all its stuff about 10 years ago. Here's the website (http://charactercounts.org/sixpillars.html). It's perfectly benign, except for resulting in a lot of stupid branding by the city.

HurricaneHugo
Dec 26, 2011, 7:47 AM
St. Louis is my favorite.

Chicago and DC are a bit generic IMO.

GregBear24
Dec 26, 2011, 10:35 AM
Chicago's is my favorite because of how identifiable it is with the city- and because it's my home. After that, I really dig Denver, Fresno, Indianapolis, Oakland, and that Roswell one is cool as hell too.

vid
Dec 26, 2011, 2:26 PM
Not to defend the stupid slogan, but that isn't what it means. On the contrary, tolerance is one of the key aspects. Gaithersburg is fairly socially liberal, and quite ethnically diverse.

Character Counts is a civic education program that Gaithersburg was duped into putting on all its stuff about 10 years ago. Here's the website (http://charactercounts.org/sixpillars.html). It's perfectly benign, except for resulting in a lot of stupid branding by the city.

You understand, however, that in this politically correct era, "harmless" terms like "character counts" have become too ambiguous for anyone to know at first if they're really liberal or being used to obscure racism.

tech12
Dec 26, 2011, 8:35 PM
I don't think San Francisco's flag is great aesthetically, but i do like the symbolism (a Phoenix rising from the ashes, just as SF did multiple times from 1849 to 1906, after several devastating fires), and I'd guess that it also has the most bad ass city motto on it:

"Oro en Paz, Fierro en Guerra."

meaning: "Gold in Peace, Iron in War."

The motto has some basis in reality too, just as the Phoenix does: the gold rush, SF had/has lots of wealth, was a huge navy center and main point of debarkation of US troops in the Pacific until after WWII, had a bunch of Navy shipyards, forts dating back to the civil war, etc. Hell, the city even started as a Spanish military outpost.

mthq
Dec 27, 2011, 4:39 AM
^Why did the Navy move their operations to San Diego anyways?

DBR96A
Dec 27, 2011, 5:58 AM
Pittsburgh's is pretty badass -- none of those silly little stars and pastel stripes.

http://images.wikia.com/icehockey/images/3/34/Pittsburgh_Flag.png

According to that flag guide, Pittsburgh's flag would probably lose points for having a seal on it (plus a trace of blue), but at the same time, it's very distinctive in spite of the seal.

bunt_q
Dec 27, 2011, 6:15 AM
You understand, however, that in this politically correct era, "harmless" terms like "character counts" have become too ambiguous for anyone to know at first if they're really liberal or being used to obscure racism.

If a slogan is "too ambiguous for anyone to know" whether it's bad, then it's not bad. It's hard enough to read minds when we're not talking about the collective slogan of 50,000 minds. Words have meaning.

Besides, good character, while subjective, is hardly objectionable. Character does count. I'm not sure that's even debatable (which is why it's a stupid slogan, but whatever). No parents, of any race, wish for their children to grow up to be bad characters.

I really don't want to derail the thread... but I'm also curious about where the juxtaposition of "liberal" and "obscuring racism" comes from. If Gaithersburg was "conservative," would it follow that they must be obscuring racism? Seems a tad presumptuous.

Centropolis
Dec 27, 2011, 6:33 AM
I say someone has good taste.

Cirrus
Dec 27, 2011, 3:39 PM
According to that flag guide, Pittsburgh's flag would probably lose points for having a seal on it (plus a trace of blue), but at the same time, it's very distinctive in spite of the seal.
I agree it's a pretty good flag. But it could be better. The problem with the seal is that while it may look great on your computer screen, it's impossible to make out from a distance in real life. Remembering the context is a big problem in flag design. These things have to be clear from far away.

The trick with seals is that you usually get a better result if you just pick one element from the seal, and focus on that. Here are two options I photoshopped that enlarge one thing from the seal and eliminate the rest. They're both better than the original flag. Both more iconic, more instantly identifiable, more easily reproducible.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7025/6581895641_73a7045024_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6581895861_4e12f7c8a2_z.jpg

Nowhereman1280
Dec 27, 2011, 3:56 PM
No shit? Chicago isn't a federal district.


No shit captain obvious, my comment was a "no shit" comment if you didn't pick up on it... Obviously it's ridiculous to be like "but you see the flag everywhere because it's on our license plates" when no other city in the United States could ever possibly do that.

^ Unbelievable.

The cartoony Indian chief really pulls it all together.

Lol, I've always thought Milwaukee's is truly horrendous. Norquist wanted to redesign it years back while he was on his flag bent (at one point every office tower in Milwaukee had it's own flag) but I don't think he ever got to it. Milwaukee's flag is the "park east freeway spur" of city flags except Norquist never got around to tearing it down.

I just want to know what those things in the other two parts of the gear are supposed to be. Is that a flag under the Indian? Could that be Milwaukee's old city flag?

Edit: Wikipedia informs me that the lower left corner of the gear does in fact contain Milwaukee's old city flag which just makes the current flag that much more ridiculous. That's right folks, they included the flag they were replacing on the new city flag. The DC-esque two red stripes with white stripe with black and yellow stars was SO much better. Definitely should revert to that. Apparently that flag was the flag flown by troops from Milwaukee during the Civil War.

hammersklavier
Dec 27, 2011, 3:58 PM
:previous::previous: Not. An. Improvement.

Pittsburgh has easily the most awesome city flag in the state. Philadelphia's doesn't even hold a candle to it (stupid pastel blue...)

This being a state with one of the simplest and most effective flag designs I know of:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Flag_of_Pennsylvania.svg/675px-Flag_of_Pennsylvania.svg.png
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_pennsylvania)

Serenade
Dec 27, 2011, 6:43 PM
the regina flag is classy as hell. lovely.
Except the whole plagiarism thing:

Liechtenstein
http://flagspot.net/images/l/li.gif

Regina
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Flag_of_Regina.svg/590px-Flag_of_Regina.svg.png


I can just see the flag design committee, "We're lazy so let's just pick a flag from some small obscure country and just change the colors and tweak the graphic. No one will notice." (Total apologies if Regina came up with it first and a sovereign country copied it. That would have been totally sweet!)