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chrisallard5454
Jan 6, 2012, 3:29 PM
I have a very deep liking toward traditional Brownstone housing, more specificallly brownstone row housing/town housing so I thought it would be cool if everyone could post pictures of the Brownstone housing that their city has. Or if there is an absence of brownstones, you could post what your city built during the brownstone era.
kool maudit
Jan 6, 2012, 4:28 PM
brownstone generally refers to a type of stone quarried around new york and philadelphia. no canadian city has any great number of houses built from this material.
for general attached housing, however, montreal is the place in canada. to attached housing, we're what toronto is to skylines. there is no reasonable comparison to be made with any other city.
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/105/253088025_6575d42bfc_o.jpg
Not too many in Canada
Hamilton has some, there were many more but they've been demolished.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/stonehammer/00176-00178.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/stonehammer/00071.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/stonehammer/00023.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/stonehammer/00252.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/stonehammer/170-172.jpg
Here are some scattered remnants:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/stonehammer/00259.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/stonehammer/00044.jpg
for general attached housing, however, montreal is the place in canada. to attached housing, we're what toronto is to skylines. there is no reasonable comparison to be made with any other city.
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/105/253088025_6575d42bfc_o.jpg
When I was in Montreal the last time I saw alot of quaint streets with the attached row houses (similar to brownstones) and thought they were great.
Here's some old row housing in Windsor in the Walkerville area. A bit different than 'brownstones' in some ways the same. These houses were built for the workers of Hiram Walkers (Canadian Club baby!) back when this area was the town of Walkerville.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2276/2454497057_6f838db0c5_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3498/3314189581_d478d290a2_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2492/4122523574_bb0635a3cd_z.jpg?zz=1
Rico Rommheim
Jan 6, 2012, 6:26 PM
brownstone generally refers to a type of stone quarried around new york and philadelphia. no canadian city has any great number of houses built from this material.
for general attached housing, however, montreal is the place in canada. to attached housing, we're what toronto is to skylines. there is no reasonable comparison to be made with any other city.
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/105/253088025_6575d42bfc_o.jpg
My old house is on that picture. Sigh. You really don't have that in Lynn valley :(
Montreal wins the contest as the home of the best and the worst row houses in the country.
On a purely personal level, I much prefer row house neighborhoods than high rise neighborhoods. Living in a row house hood is a fun social urban experience. I find that living in condo towers or apartment towers alienating and antisocial.
MonkeyRonin
Jan 6, 2012, 7:22 PM
The only Canadian city that has "true" brownstones in any significant quantity is Saint John, NB (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=183868). Of course, plenty more have rowhomes of a similar age & form. Here are some from Toronto:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9871/0024b.jpg
Photo by me
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5570/64162734.jpg
Google Streetview
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8173/29907769.jpg
Google Streetview
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/1411/52511592.jpg
Google Streetview
Coldrsx
Jan 6, 2012, 7:42 PM
Browntones are such a wonderful urban form. They are adaptable for large families, smaller ones with rental below etc. and can provide a rear yard in the middle of the city. They also have such a strong street presence and foster the essence of an urban neighbourhood.
I had the pleasure of staying in one off 4th ave in Brooklyn a few years ago and fell in love.
I wish we had better examples here and more of this product.
softee
Jan 6, 2012, 8:39 PM
Here's a nice little row I photographed on Jarvis Street in Toronto.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y142/Softee2/IMG_2230.jpg
If we're talking about rowhouses or townhouses there are lots from Ontario to the east.
We already had a thread about rowhouses in Canada
There isn't really anything like this in Western Canada. Our cities were built after the single detached housing craze began in the late 1800s. My neighbourhood has several thousand houses but only 6 or 7 floor plans. They're all over 100 years old.
History repeats itself.
jigglysquishy
Jan 6, 2012, 10:50 PM
These are my second favorite form of housing worldwide. Nice to see Canada can represent. Now only if we continued these and got a rowhouse boom going again.
someone123
Jan 6, 2012, 10:53 PM
Yeah, the brownstones in New York are named because of the particular stone used.
Saint John is mostly red brick, just like Toronto.
Halifax has some rowhouses that don't normally show up in photo threads in residential areas like Jubilee Road. These ones are interspersed throughout a few blocks and there are some with curved fronts similar to what you see in some US cities:
http://g.co/maps/gzjd6
http://g.co/maps/vfm6d
West End Halifax has the odd Boston-style triple decker too.
In the "far north" there's the Hydrostone district, which has 11 boulevards with rowhouses and a market building.
http://g.co/maps/m2rdx
There are lots of boxy little rowhouses around the closer parts of the North End that remind me of housing styles in some US cities:
http://g.co/maps/r5ppe
These older stone rowhouses (~1820s) have more Scottish than US architecture:
http://g.co/maps/6mw6b
PoscStudent
Jan 6, 2012, 11:07 PM
It appears as though someone has painted over our brownstones!
http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Poscstudent/800px-Water_street_st_johns2.jpg
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Water_street_st._john%27s2.jpg)
http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Poscstudent/st_johns_transport.jpg
Source (http://enroute.aircanada.com/files/destinations/st_johns_transport.jpg)
MTLskyline
Jan 6, 2012, 11:27 PM
I'm not sure if these buildings on Bishop Street in Montreal count as brownstones.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2923/4696g.jpg
http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/buildings&CISOPTR=9977
MonkeyRonin
Jan 6, 2012, 11:37 PM
Now only if we continued these and got a rowhouse boom going again.
Rowhouses are one of the most popular types of modern suburban development.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3313/30336930.jpg
Of course, they certainly don't build 'em like they used to...
Rowhouses are one of the most popular types of modern suburban development.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3313/30336930.jpg
Of course, they certainly don't build 'em like they used to...
Not in Caledsaskginapeg Bay. :(
isaidso
Jan 7, 2012, 1:32 AM
there is no reasonable comparison to be made with any other city.
Besides Hamilton, Halifax and Saint John have them too. They're just tiny cities, so they don't have as many as Montreal has.
Andy6
Jan 7, 2012, 7:03 PM
Winnipeg once had a lot of this sort of thing but, like most early downtown residences, they generally didn't survive the 1912 boom and if they did they didn't survive the 1960s. This one is still standing on Vaughan Street:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3016/2776169493_70cde277eb.jpg
There would likely have been verandas and a second storey balcony originally, more like this one from my historical files that stood a few blocks over at 395 Carlton Street on the east side of Central Park:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4113/5058732698_0bc27f647b.jpg
(both are my photos)
SpongeG
Jan 7, 2012, 7:47 PM
we have some old rowhouses mostly in strathcona
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1109/1056767606_fa2c5d89c5.jpg
flickr
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1027/1056767648_d9c58e0185.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2074/2227313021_eb33cf6c7e.jpg
these are some newer ones in coquitlam
http://reimers.ca/gallery/259153077_1.jpg
haligonia
Jan 7, 2012, 8:53 PM
It appears as though someone has painted over our brownstones!
http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Poscstudent/800px-Water_street_st_johns2.jpg
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Water_street_st._john%27s2.jpg)
http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Poscstudent/st_johns_transport.jpg
Source (http://enroute.aircanada.com/files/destinations/st_johns_transport.jpg)
These aren't brownstones. They're brick/stone commercial buildings.
PoscStudent
Jan 7, 2012, 9:16 PM
These aren't brownstones. They're brick/stone commercial buildings.
brownstone is a type of stone of which many of these buildings are made out of, and while they are primarily commercial now they were, and some still are, residential on the upper levels.
Architype
Jan 7, 2012, 9:21 PM
^ Brownstones is a bit of a misnomer, but it always refers to stone or brick rowhouses which were not generally designed to be commercial on the ground floor.
Most of what might have been brownstones in St.John's are wooden rowhouses instead.
Here's the closest to brownstones in St.John's (NL).
http://www.pbase.com/image/86021329.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/73889863.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/75923457.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/72761249.jpg
These would be closest in appearance among newer contruction:
http://www.pbase.com/image/83227530.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/126827537.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/127040636.jpg
(credit, my photos)
ConundrumNL
Jan 8, 2012, 12:03 AM
http://www.pbase.com/image/72761249.jpg
The Four Sisters. Built by Samuel Garrett (who also built Cabot Tower) for his daughters. Apparently they sit on top of a tunnel designed to carry fresh water from Quidi Vidi lake.
I believe they have been vacant for quite awhile, apparently because of the sewer gases that seep from the tunnel.
manny_santos
Jan 8, 2012, 1:08 AM
London, Ontario has virtually no housing of this type. The older parts of the city generally have large lots, sometimes with very large setbacks for houses.
London's older neighbourhoods are less dense than the older neighbourhoods of other Ontario cities, such as Kingston and Ottawa.
bolognium
Jan 8, 2012, 2:31 AM
Yeah, London doesn't have many remaining rowhouses. I can only think of about eight or so. I know there's a couple in Woodfield, and a few downtown. We definitely don't have anything comparable to those amazing Montreal walk-ups, though.
http://i.imgur.com/37zWX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/w91do.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/koGNv.jpg
It seems like instead of rowhouses Londoners were building doube-houses. I'm not sure how common double-houses are in other cities, but for some reason we have tons of them.
http://i.imgur.com/WtZPI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gm7iv.jpg
Toronto claims those double houses (semi-detached) as its signature housing style, but there are tons of them in all Ontario cities.
niwell
Jan 8, 2012, 7:47 AM
Toronto claims those double houses (semi-detached) as its signature housing style, but there are tons of them in all Ontario cities.
They are pretty ubiquitous throughout Ontario, but I'd say Toronto has a hold on two forms of semis. First the bay and gable style, and second the two story working class style which (in various forms) dominate parts of the west and east ends.
A particularly fanciful version of the second type on Clinton St in Seaton Village: http://g.co/maps/rped9
manny_santos
Jan 11, 2012, 11:20 PM
Yeah, London doesn't have many remaining rowhouses. I can only think of about eight or so. I know there's a couple in Woodfield, and a few downtown. We definitely don't have anything comparable to those amazing Montreal walk-ups, though.
http://i.imgur.com/37zWX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/w91do.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/koGNv.jpg
I lived in London for 25 years and I have no idea where any of those are.
chrisallard5454
Jan 12, 2012, 12:51 PM
Aren't there a bunch right beside the park downtown? On Wellington?
flar
Jan 12, 2012, 3:44 PM
London's rowhouses are in and around Talbot and in Woodfield.
In addition to the ones posted already, here is every rowhouse in London:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/talbot/00253.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/talbot/00300.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/woodfield_1/00021.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/talbot/00332.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/woodfield_1/00017.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/woodfield_1/00164.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/woodfield_1/00179.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/segaert/woodfield_1/00143.jpg
chrisallard5454
Jan 12, 2012, 4:43 PM
These wouldn't constitute as row houses, but they are very brownstone esc.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=london+ontario&hl=en&ll=42.986881,-81.246203&spn=0.002009,0.009645&safe=off&hnear=London,+Middlesex+County,+Ontario&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=42.986882,-81.246202&panoid=Jqqr_gTpAeWWxcpekF-EBg&cbp=11,99.4,,0,-12.41
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