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rocketphish
May 11, 2019, 11:06 PM
Loretta Apartment Inc. (a division of District Realty) is proposing to develop the site at 90 Champagne Avenue South with a 14 storey apartment dwelling and two levels of underground parking. The building is proposed to contain a range of residential dwelling units, including 22 studio units, 146 one-bedroom units, 63 two-bedroom units, and five three-bedroom units, foe a total of 236 units.

Development application:
https://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__AG4OTQ

Streetview:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.3990833,-75.7118986,3a,75y,227.52h,91.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssjZuvSgPmWwwoOMisZ2rwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


Site:

https://i.imgur.com/KwMTkSO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5y30D0O.png


Renderings:

https://i.imgur.com/BOw8vLl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dwF9G49.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qwKvxaz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/njYxvkz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CifUDw7.png

IntoTheCore
May 11, 2019, 11:31 PM
I live about 250 m north of this site. Bring it on! The more people move into the area, the more likely we'll get some sort of grocery store in the area.

OTSkyline
May 12, 2019, 4:42 PM
Doesn't look half bad, especially for the site.
I'm guessing it will be rentals instead of student residences or condos

Urbanarchit
May 12, 2019, 8:56 PM
I support development in this area, and the roofline is decent. It's designed by our favourite architect, Roderick Lahey.

OTownandDown
May 15, 2019, 8:42 PM
The density is great! It's what we need for a more vibrant little Italy. And it's awesome that it's 300m from Preston, so densify away! As dense as possible along this road.

The profile reminds me of 40 Hines Road in Kanata:
http://krpproperties.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/40-Hines-Road-5.jpg

OTownandDown
May 15, 2019, 8:43 PM
OH! Also, I really despise the neighbouring building. I cannot believe it's new. It looks like something from the worst of the late 70's.

This. This is just so bad.

https://d3afxrdsnln619.cloudfront.net/CreaDdf-20513476/pYpAQuoiK8etzfRFF.jpg

Urbanarchit
May 15, 2019, 9:03 PM
OH! Also, I really despise the neighbouring building. I cannot believe it's new. It looks like something from the worst of the late 70's.

This. This is just so bad.

https://d3afxrdsnln619.cloudfront.net/CreaDdf-20513476/pYpAQuoiK8etzfRFF.jpg

It's not too bad, although it took them an oddly long time to complete the townhouses. It was built by Domicile, which generally go with conservative designs. I don't know about the interiors now, but when I went to the pre-sales office the interiors looked decent.

OTownandDown
May 16, 2019, 2:27 PM
It's not too bad, although it took them an oddly long time to complete the townhouses. It was built by Domicile, which generally go with conservative designs. I don't know about the interiors now, but when I went to the pre-sales office the interiors looked decent.

I really just have a problem with the podium and the penthouses.

Podium:
1. So many materials.
2. Colours. Red, blue, grey, concrete, beige, silver/aluminum, white, grey, glass block, slate tile, exposed vents (three types), river stone, boulders. I mean really? This is 'conservative'?
3. Massing. Corner mullions in sheet metal vs. corners in 'stone'.
4. Recesses and darkness.

Roof level:
1. So much concrete. At least coat it with acrylic so that it's not just a blob of exposed concrete.
2. So recessed. Isn't it really dark in those units?

Nothing is uniform in shape/size. Look at those columns on the roof, bland, square, like a highway bridge deck. how about doing something nice, or at least faking a uniformly spaced colonnade that doesn't make my OCD freak out. WHY are some of the window elevations a full window-wall, and some are just punched windows?

Lastly, glass balcony rails with brick piers, aluminum windows, exposed concrete, probably big shelf angles exposed to the units, and a personal guarantee that in 15 years all the brick will deteriorate and have to be removed, or at least in 30 years all the shelf angles will fail and have to be replaced.

If this building had a nickname, I'd call it 'the Darkness'

Arcologist
May 17, 2019, 7:05 PM
Only 14fl on this proposal? Seriously? I thought they would have gone for more given the proximity to the LRT and taller buildings across the street. I get that there are single- and two-storey homes nearby, but even 20 fl in this location seems ok to me.

I like the shape of the tower, but not the materials. It looks like the 81 Slater bunker that RLA designed downtown. Puke.

waterloowarrior
May 17, 2019, 11:30 PM
Only 14fl on this proposal? Seriously? I thought they would have gone for more given the proximity to the LRT and taller buildings across the street. I get that there are single- and two-storey homes nearby, but even 20 fl in this location seems ok to me.

I like the shape of the tower, but not the materials. It looks like the 81 Slater bunker that RLA designed downtown. Puke.

There is a fairly new secondary plan designating this site for up to 15 stories and the zoning permits up to 42m so they meet the requirements. This is just a site plan application, they don't require a rezoning so this doesn't go to Council. It can be approved by staff along with the building permit.

J.OT13
May 18, 2019, 12:22 PM
I'm fine with the height. Buildings step down headed west of the Trillium Line. The design is so-so. Fine for its location west of the track. Would not want to see this closer to Dow's Lake or Downtown.

Jayday23
Sep 13, 2020, 11:09 AM
Update from Jeff Leiper:

“ Last year, the developer at 90 Champagne put forward a site plan for their proposed building, and I was pleased at the practical engagement with that that we had from the community. At an open house, I heard a clear open-mindedness to encouraging the developer to seek a zoning by-law amendment that would allow them to go a little taller in return for pulling the building away from nearby buildings. I advocated strongly with the developer to consider it.

Despite that feedback from the community and myself, however, the developer has determined after consideration to move ahead with a building that can be built without further permissions. They are not going to seek permission to go higher than they're already allowed. However, I am pleased to see that the driveway has been moved to create a larger buffer between this building and the adjacent one to the south, something we heard a lot about during consultation.

Below you'll find the new plans. Since it's being proposed within the zoning and with that additional buffer, I'll be providing my concurrence to staff to exercise their delegated authority to approve the new site plan.”

http://kitchissippiward.ca/sites/default/files/Site%20Plan%20Updated.pdf

J.OT13
Jun 25, 2021, 12:27 PM
Pre-construction open house. Another addition to the Dow's Lake skyline.

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SL123
Jun 25, 2021, 12:40 PM
[QUOTE=J.OT13;9322055]Pre-construction open house. Another addition to the Dow's Lake skyline.

Nice little project but I think it will have little to no effect on the skyline

RogueNacho
Jul 13, 2021, 3:11 PM
Equipment mobilization and pile drilling is well underway at this site.

SL123
Nov 21, 2021, 8:44 PM
Progress Nov 21, 2021

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51696047888_11d94fcc9e_b.jpg

Harley613
Apr 4, 2022, 3:31 AM
This one is now at grade. The sooner it blots out the monstrosity behind it the better! That monstrosity is one of the few buildings that has benefitted from the ridiculous white/gray painting of old buildings trend. It's still horrible but the white and green was actually worse.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51980889211_504811f1a2_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2ncnDnM)

SL123
Apr 4, 2022, 11:54 AM
The way this small section of Champagne street has evolved in just the past decade is quite something.

Harley613
Jun 20, 2022, 9:53 PM
4 of 14 floors!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52161619609_f61cdbe197_h.jpg

ponyboycurtis
Jul 11, 2022, 2:03 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52207992278_f14c8bc65e_h_d.jpg

Harley613
Jul 27, 2022, 12:18 AM
Last night

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52244324880_6140e9a64b_k.jpg

ponyboycurtis
Jul 27, 2022, 8:22 PM
Kind of neat this building will just disappear from Carling once the Champagne 2 building is done. No shortage of density there when you figure those two brown granite commercial towers and the mid rise (gorgeous) red brick/black glass buildings next to them.

Is there any plan for the underused parking lot to the south of Champagne? I don't recall coming across anything on here.

I'm conflicted if I want those future buildings to step down or step up.

I think I want them to step down to roughly the same height as the brown granite fellas. It would give a more gradual cascading pyramid approach to the neighborhood. Then again it would be a good spot for 125M towers in the sense that it wouldn't be intruding on anyones home?

Do NIMBY's only exists in SFH? Do the poor bastards in Champagne 1 not have any say?:haha:

I used to be able to grow basil on my balcony planter.....

rocketphish
Jul 27, 2022, 9:23 PM
Is there any plan for the underused parking lot to the south of Champagne? I don't recall coming across anything on here.

Yes... well there was at one point: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171229

Harley613
Aug 12, 2022, 11:32 PM
Dat Density...
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52282191565_aeb6ed2440_h.jpg

Harley613
Sep 14, 2022, 10:31 PM
I think they are about to pour the final floor now. It's a pretty large building! I wish it was a just a couple of floors taller to add some variety to that block.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358644354_782ac6e19b_h.jpg

Multi-modal
Sep 15, 2022, 12:33 AM
I think they are about to pour the final floor now. It's a pretty large building! I wish it was a just a couple of floors taller to add some variety to that block.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358644354_782ac6e19b_h.jpg

Amazing how dense that block of Champagne Avenue is!

Harley613
Sep 15, 2022, 12:36 AM
Amazing how dense that block of Champagne Avenue is!

Whole lotta starving people looking for a grocery store!

ponyboycurtis
Sep 15, 2022, 4:46 PM
Whole lotta starving people looking for a grocery store!

DiRienzos sammiches for all!

Harley613
Sep 15, 2022, 7:42 PM
DiRienzos sammiches for all!

I'm a little worried about their capacity to serve thousands of new residents AND the mega hospital. Not too worried though, being a wildly successful cash-only business, I'm sure they've got millions in untaxed cash sitting there ready to pay for an expansion :haha:

ponyboycurtis
Sep 16, 2022, 2:17 AM
I'm a little worried about their capacity to serve thousands of new residents AND the mega hospital. Not too worried though, being a wildly successful cash-only business, I'm sure they've got millions in untaxed cash sitting there ready to pay for an expansion :haha:

Just think of all the added revenue for the City of Ottawa via parking tickets! We used to go there for lunch often and there was always a by-law guy sniping people:runaway:

Harley613
Sep 16, 2022, 2:22 AM
Just think of all the added revenue for the City of Ottawa via parking tickets! We used to go there for lunch often and there was always a by-law guy sniping people:runaway:

That place has been a bylaw honeypot for 20 years. It's the Ottawa equivalent of the Le Nordik expired Ontario plate honeypot (scam) the MRC police have been running since the place opened.

ponyboycurtis
Oct 1, 2022, 5:36 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52397591910_00036a7af2_b_d.jpg

Looks to be just about topped out now. I'm really hoping to see that angled roof feature next.

This thing went up pretty quickly.

OTSkyline
Oct 3, 2022, 2:19 PM
Really unfortunately that alll 3 of those buildings in that block are similar size, density & height. Would've been to see a shorter podium & higher slimmer tower on the north end to give some separation between the buildings.

J.OT13
Oct 3, 2022, 2:25 PM
Really unfortunately that alll 3 of those buildings in that block are similar size, density & height. Would've been to see a shorter podium & higher slimmer tower on the north end to give some separation between the buildings.

I agree. Podiums and slim point towers should be law, not just a suggestion.

Wish this one's height was between Domicile's mid-2000s tower and SoHo Champagne I.

Harley613
Oct 3, 2022, 9:20 PM
Totally agree with the two comments above. There is no reason this had to take up the whole block. It could have been a 24-30 story building with some greenspace, Vancouver style, or it could have been a human scaled podium with a taller tower above, also Vancouver style. I am glad, however, that it is noticeably taller than it's neighbour.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52403101940_03e7816d09_h.jpg

ponyboycurtis
Oct 6, 2022, 6:03 AM
[QUOTE=Harley613;9750021]Totally agree with the two comments above. There is no reason this had to take up the whole block. It could have been a 24-30 story building with some greenspace, Vancouver style, or it could have been a human scaled podium with a taller tower above, also Vancouver style. I am glad, however, that it is noticeably taller than it's neighbour.

The roof feature should add another faux story and give it a little more gap on the building next door.

SL123
Apr 16, 2023, 3:13 PM
walk in front of it last night and it looks pretty good. Its also going to be called the Lennox https://thelennox.ca/

J.OT13
Apr 20, 2023, 7:09 PM
walk in front of it last night and it looks pretty good. Its also going to be called the Lennox https://thelennox.ca/

Rendering we hadn't seen before. Looks good. Nice infill. Nothing earth shattering, but that's not what I would expect for a smaller project amongst what will one day be a top-tier skyline.

https://i.postimg.cc/QxtYt2PY/Lennox.png

Harley613
Apr 20, 2023, 7:30 PM
A new Charcwhite to block the recently Charcwhited old building behind it. Charcwhite inception.

OTSkyline
Apr 20, 2023, 7:41 PM
I hope they keep that interesting roofline/feature that was in the original render. It sorta seems like it in this new one but the angle doesn't really show it well.

J.OT13
Apr 20, 2023, 8:21 PM
A new Charcwhite to block the recently Charcwhited old building behind it. Charcwhite inception.

It's more white (well, beige) than charch. I'll take it!

I hope they keep that interesting roofline/feature that was in the original render. It sorta seems like it in this new one but the angle doesn't really show it well.

Hope so too.

Harley613
Apr 27, 2023, 4:45 PM
Mods, this is now branded 'The Lennox'
https://thelennox.ca/

Harley613
Apr 28, 2023, 1:44 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52853286801_382e8e72bb_h.jpg

Harley613
Apr 28, 2023, 5:05 PM
I just realized that the newly Charcwhited old building behind this one is still called 'The Dowsview', but no longer has a view of Dow's Lake from any window in the entire building :haha:

SL123
Jul 14, 2023, 1:28 AM
Thats some deep black bricks in the middle! It looks weird frankly! For real, I think Charcoal would've look better (Don't throw tomatoes at me lol)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53043529542_4090fea5d6_b.jpg

kwoldtimer
Jul 14, 2023, 1:36 AM
It does look weird but for some reason every new building nowadays seems to need multiple exterior finishes. :shrug:

OTSkyline
Jul 14, 2023, 1:15 PM
Must be in city bylaws somewhere. All new developments MUST include a mix of charcoal and beige brick with mismatched patterns and a height between 27 and 32 stories. And if multiple towers in one project, they must all be the same height.

J.OT13
Jul 14, 2023, 1:24 PM
Thats some deep black bricks in the middle! It looks weird frankly! For real, I think Charcoal would've look better (Don't throw tomatoes at me lol)


:tomato::tomato::tomato:

Central section should have been glass, or stick with the beige. At least it's not as disjointed as Claridge.

Overall, if we ignore the vantablack section, it's quite a competent project. Looks simple, but high quality. It's shorter than most of its neighbours, but still takes a confident spot in the skyline.